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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_3570K_Z77VLK
3570K with Asus P8Z77-V LK for $330 before $15 rebate. I was hoping for a better deal. It's basically $45 off the price of the two of them. But, not bad if you're in the market. Cheapest you'd find in the country. (and still loads more than Microcenter)
Koroviev
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I'd imagine a fair bit at this point. I'd jump on it.
CrashPrime
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Yes. Extreme 4 is an entry level oc board, and not made with the same standard of components as the MPower.
If nothing else, it's worth it for a thicker (non-warping) pcb. If that isn't enough, well, it has better power phase, higher quality components, built-in wifi/bluetooth.
I'm pretty sure my PC has some malware. Since I'm going to have to format and reinstall everything anyway, I was thinking of ordering a SSD. I want to build a new PC in the next couple years. If I order a SSD and use it for my OS, would it be okay to format it later and use it as the SSD in my new system?
Koroviev
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Don't see why not, although SSDs will probably be even cheaper by then.
the upgrade bug is a cruel mistress. So, current specs are:
ASUS M5A97 motherboard
AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE oc'd to 4.0ghz with a CM Hyper 212+ heatsink in push/pull
7950 oc'd to 1110/1500 (at the moment anyway, still playing around with this)
4gb Corsair XMS3 ram at 1600mhz
750 watt Antec PSU
Anyway, after a talk with a friend, I have basically decided that I will be switching to intel around the summer time or so. So, my main question is what would be the better option, the i5 3570k or the i7 3770k? It would be for gaming, heavy photoshop use, some Illustrator and maybe some indesign.
ASUS M5A97 motherboard
AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE oc'd to 4.0ghz with a CM Hyper 212+ heatsink in push/pull
7950 oc'd to 1110/1500 (at the moment anyway, still playing around with this)
4gb Corsair XMS3 ram at 1600mhz
750 watt Antec PSU
Anyway, after a talk with a friend, I have basically decided that I will be switching to intel around the summer time or so. So, my main question is what would be the better option, the i5 3570k or the i7 3770k? It would be for gaming, heavy photoshop use, some Illustrator and maybe some indesign.
For your situation the 3770k would be better. The extra threads, which the 3750k doesn't have, will be put to good use with your multimedia activities.
You'd want to go 3570k if your machine was just for gaming.
Scalemail Ted
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Okay, I'm almost complete ordering components for my new system. The components I have thus far are:
Motherboard: MSI Big Bang Xpower ii
Processor: i7 3930k
Memory: 32 GB (8GB x 4) G.Skill Ripjaws series Z (1866)
Storage: Samsung 840 500GB SSD
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 1050W
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Series Trooper
I still need to order a graphics card, cooling solution and additional storage
I've been looking at the Nvidia GTX680, which is the best brand to get?
The computer will be used mainly for 3d rendering, 3d animation, and cs6
Also what's some good cooling solutions?
Motherboard: MSI Big Bang Xpower ii
Processor: i7 3930k
Memory: 32 GB (8GB x 4) G.Skill Ripjaws series Z (1866)
Storage: Samsung 840 500GB SSD
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 1050W
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Series Trooper
I still need to order a graphics card, cooling solution and additional storage
I've been looking at the Nvidia GTX680, which is the best brand to get?
The computer will be used mainly for 3d rendering, 3d animation, and cs6
Also what's some good cooling solutions?
Grab two cans of compressed air from an office store / Best Buy / Wal Mart. Clean it all out! Hold the fans in place if possible while cleaning.
BP550. Looks solid.
CPU idle: <40C acceptable, aim for under 35C.
Gaming (Depends on game): Usually 5-10C lower than artificial load
Artificial Load (Prime/ OCCT /Orthos) : <65C is good
2570K instead of 2500K. I dislike the Seagate drives and the company line-up atm. BP550 instead of TX.
I'd just grab the 1k build parts tbh
Thanks for the good post
Makes it so much easier to help.
I'd take a better PSU over a CX (low end) for sure (See: Enthusiast build sheet). I can't believe ASUS made another Z77 SKU. Jesus Christ. I'd get the ASRock mobo listed there or the LK if you want ASUS (imo ASUS quality is way down sans their high end boards).
Get a 1TB Blue at least and make sure that is backed up (Faster and like $10 more for doubled storage).
Although you mentioned avoiding AMD, the 7970 is by far the best value and drivers have improved a lot. If you want nVidia you can get a GTX680 4GB used from people selling theirs to buy Titans
Those issues aren't really issues at all, just buy more fans. All you need is a side intake and an top or rear exhaust and you are fine. Extra is better. Pick whatever fluid bearing ones you like in your color scheme. The Arctic F12's are nice and cheap. Overclocking today (at sane voltages) produces much less heat than it did previously.
You'll enjoy your new build very much. Especially the emulation!
Check back in summer and see where Intel's next CPU stands.
Budget is obviously important. If you are spending $700 or $1200 you want to make compromises. If you've got the cash drop it on the 3770K.
Although your motherboard supports the FX-8350 which could be very serviceable for just $200 (Should OC better on your mobo), and get another 4GB of RAM in there.
GeForce TITAN
(No, really. Compute is godlike.) If you are picking a GTX680 4GB vendor, then tmk the ASUS, MSI, GB are all ok. MSI tweaked some of their 660Ti/670 voltages though, so if you don't want to support that go ASUS/GB. (ASUS looks a lot nicer imo).Cooling solution... Honestly on a rig like that, buy what you think looks nicest and doesn't suck. Corsair makes a neat looking package with their AIO water stuff and AF fans with color rings. H80i / H100i depending where you want the exhaust. Larger area gives you more wiggle room with quieter fans.
"Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 1050 W" - I have to say you should get something more recent as the cables on this don't look great. Seasonic X or Corsair AX series. (As a bonus you can get colored sleeved PSU cables in Black, White, Red, or Blue) http://www.corsair.com/en/professio...ndividually-sleeved-modular-cables-white.html
When I see that much money dropped it should be a bit more special imo.
Anton668
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strange thing, seems the new build doesnt recognize the mouse as it is. it just comes up as generic mouse. when I open the macro program it wont register. the old build saw it just fine and just for shits i just plugged it into the gf's lappy and it showed up just fine. so... where do i start looking to fix this?
Use a USB 2.0 port on the back of the PC. See if that works.
Not sure what you are using.
You've installed the newest downloaded chipset, USB, and mouse drivers?
Try a hard shut down, then turn it back on.
If that's a no go try using the ASRock USB utilities to either boost or not boost USB power, or enable/disable USB power while off.
cripterion
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Is there really a benefit of buying a dedicated sound card in this day and age? Would it offload some ressources when playing games and is the sound quality that much better than onboard sound? (for the 50-60 euro sound cards).
Dreams-Visions
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GeForce TITAN
+1 on this.
the Compute performance is going to be impressive on 3D modeling software (Maya, 3DSM, iRay, vRay, etc.), CS6, and just about all video encoding/transcoding/editing applications.
alternately, the 7970 is going to also give very, very impressive compute performance for half the price. Not quite as good as the Titan's, but damn close given the price disparity. Game performance on the 7970 is no slouch either. But if you think you'll be able to afford *2* Titans for SLI down the road, that is clearly the best path forward right now.
I used a Sinobi in a build. Love it for the price no questions.
masterkajo
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Sound good. I am debating myself if I should upgrade from a HD 5770 to either a HD 7850 or 7870. It will probably be a short term solution for about the next 2 years until I have enough money to afford living on my own and built a new PC. Would the 7850 suffice for that? Or is the gap from the 5770 to 7850 not very big? Should I rather take a 7870?
Gap between 7850 and 5770 is significant, it's what I went from to. 7870 is bad value whilst the 7870XT exists.
Just got an email from DPD and my GPU won't be here until tomorrow
See if you can change the delivery address to your work.
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $366.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-26 05:52 EST-0500)
My current system is being complete ass, and I want to build a new one. Not having a huge budget though. I'm going with that and reusing a case, hdd and video card(5750, yes terrible it was a replacement for broken card). All to be replaced at a later date. The microcenter bundle deal for cpu+mb should make it about 30 cheaper. Not sure if its worth my day off and travel time though. I live at least an hour from there.
Any major issues I'm missing?
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $366.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-26 05:52 EST-0500)
My current system is being complete ass, and I want to build a new one. Not having a huge budget though. I'm going with that and reusing a case, hdd and video card(5750, yes terrible it was a replacement for broken card). All to be replaced at a later date. The microcenter bundle deal for cpu+mb should make it about 30 cheaper. Not sure if its worth my day off and travel time though. I live at least an hour from there.
Any major issues I'm missing?
Servbot #42
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I'm so confused right right now! But now that i look at the prices the XFX Radeon HD7770 is only slightly more expensive that the 7750, maybe i should go with 7770 specially since they only have two on stock right now. Thanks guys.
Can you get a VP450 instead for the PSU? How much more is an XFX Core 450/550 or Antec BP550? The builder series are cheap for a reason :/
Otherwise good.
There's more you can fiddle with, it can help with mic static, volume, driving power (onboard amps on some). For most I would say it is not needed, but nice to have.
If you are spending under $100 the used market is where to look. You'll get at least 150% more horsepower for your money. GTX 560 / 560Ti / 660 / 6870 / 6950 / 7850 etc.
noomi
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Does anyone have any insight on the corsair h60i?
Currently using a Hyper TX3, and while it cools pretty decently for me (4.3GHz oc with 1.225v 30idle, 65 load), I want just a little more. I like the h60i since it's not that huge and easy to setup, but the horrors I see on the web about the pump being super noisy is very disappointing, and it turning me away. Seems everyone and their grandmother are having pump noise issues with the h60.
Did not go for the 212 evo cause it's friggin' huge for my case and blocks my ram
So h60i, yay or nay?
Currently using a Hyper TX3, and while it cools pretty decently for me (4.3GHz oc with 1.225v 30idle, 65 load), I want just a little more. I like the h60i since it's not that huge and easy to setup, but the horrors I see on the web about the pump being super noisy is very disappointing, and it turning me away. Seems everyone and their grandmother are having pump noise issues with the h60.
Did not go for the 212 evo cause it's friggin' huge for my case and blocks my ram
So h60i, yay or nay?
You can slide the fan up on the 212. Should give you clearance unless the HS is like 2mm from your side door. Honestly that's a good chip already, you can't boost it more on the TX3?Does anyone have any insight on the corsair h60i?
Currently using a Hyper TX3, and while it cools pretty decently for me (4.3GHz oc with 1.225v 30idle, 65 load), I want just a little more. I like the h60i since it's not that huge and easy to setup, but the horrors I see on the web about the pump being super noisy is very disappointing, and it turning me away. Seems everyone and their grandmother are having pump noise issues with the h60.
Did not go for the 212 evo cause it's friggin' huge for my case and blocks my ram
So h60i, yay or nay?
noomi
Member
I tried for 4.4GHz but kept getting BSOD and crashes. Was getting temps upwards of 72+, and the voltage was sitting around 1.288 which was a bit too high for my liking. I ended up settling for 4.3Ghz.
I know the general consensus is that the 212+ is great, but I really want to make the move to liquid cooling. If I honestly won't see much of a difference in temps going from the tx3 to h60, then I'll just stay with what I got.
tamaster92
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Hey PCGaf
So I'm looking to upgrade a single part - I do lots of YouTube and streaming stuff.
What is the best current CPU that's not stupid expensive for rendering, recording and streaming?
So I'm looking to upgrade a single part - I do lots of YouTube and streaming stuff.
What is the best current CPU that's not stupid expensive for rendering, recording and streaming?
1) Do you have an Avermedia HD? If not, get one.
2) AMD FX-8350. Not as good for gaming though.
tamaster92
Member
No I only really play dayz/Planetside 2 though if that helps
And hmm. Been a while since I upgraded so thanks, I presumed it'd be a intel chip!
tamaster92
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SloaneRisette
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The MSI Z77 MPOWER LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard is a good one, right? I'm just about to buy it, but looking at the reviews, a lot of the one star ones are talking about how it dies quickly. I know the motherboard is recommended for the Enthusiast build (what I'm basing my computer off of) but I want to make sure this is a good one before I bite and order.
SloaneRisette
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This is my first time building a computer, so I'm mostly going by what's been recommended in the OP.
It's intended for enthusiast builds. 2-3 GPUs, people who push their CPUs to the limit, overclocking RAM, that sort of thing. If you just want to put something together and have it work great, the Extreme 4 or P8Z77V-LK is the way to go.
It's overkill.
Heatsink protip here:
The heatsink itself doesn't determine how quiet it is. That can play a factor in how well it cools at a given RPM with a given set of fans. But, if you want something just as quiet as the Noctua that will take your Ivy proc to the heatwall, get a Hyper 212 with a nice fan like the Arctic Cooling F12, Corsair SP 120, or Noctua NF-F12. Saves you $40, and runs just as quiet.
DJ_Lae
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I picked up a Xonar DG a few weeks back to try and fix some of the static I was getting at high volumes.
Thing sounds fantastic with headphones and was dirt cheap (less than $30). That's probably its biggest benefit.
There are two things that make Haswell a possible leap.
1) The VRM is being moved to the die itself, which will allow for an extremely precise power delivery. This means possible huge increases in overclock headroom.
2) There have been rumors that the BCLK will be adjustable which means overclocking of non K chips.
It's speculation, and nothing we will know for certain until release.
Infinite Justice
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does the extra fan on the Hyper 212 really help out?
I just did a sidegrade from a GTX 670 to an HD 7950 and I'm getting better performance.
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