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[GhostRidah]

H100i is overkill. No insane cooler is going to keep it cool once you hit that heatwall. Step down to something like the H60, IMO.

Dom Plats are pretty, and pretty overpriced. Only buy these if this is a showcase build.

Full towers are silly unless you want to water cool (as in, a DIY full system). Think about the Fractal Arc Midi R2 instead, or a Fractal Define R4. If you want it for the aesthetics, then by all means. The 820 is a good case.

Drop down PSU to something like a 650. With SLI 770s and an overclocked Haswell chip, you'd be looking at about 500W load during gaming.

Sabertooth is a bad value. Every board in its price range is better equipped.

With all of that said, if you've picked a lot of these parts based on aesthetics rather than value, then everything you have selected is great quality.

Thanks for all the tips, while the parts are in my budget, I think maybe I will see how much I can save cutting things down, might be able to add another HD with the savings.

I went with a ATX full tower only because I don't want any future problems with card sizes and SLI, but I guess most Mid towers have no problems with space?

 

[Sothpaw]

Is there some reason my Asus VG248QE 144hz shouldn't be plug and play with my old setup (GTX 460)? I just tried it on my old rig and it displays the desktop for a few seconds then flashes white and goes black.

This should be plug and play right? A bit worried about hooking it up to my new rig when I finish it later this week.

 

[etrain911]

Did anyone see the Sandisk SSD on sale at amazon? Is it worth going for the 240 GB? http://http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDX-240G-G25/dp/B006EKJ8UI/ref=br_lf_m_1001225461_1_3_ttl?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&pf_rd_p=1560989522&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1001225461&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JW6J7P3H14MXRFSQBR8

 

[LCGeek]

Is there some reason my Asus VG248QE 144hz shouldn't be plug and play with my old setup (GTX 460)? I just tried it on my old rig and it displays the desktop for a few seconds then flashes white and goes black.

This should be plug and play right? A bit worried about hooking it up to my new rig when I finish it later this week.

I have 560 I use that monitor odd and it should work right away. Only thing I might mention I rather use the dvi cable. using my hdmi cable from the last monitor gave me tons of problems.

 

[mkenyon]

Thanks for all the tips, while the parts are in my budget, I think maybe I will see how much I can save cutting things down, might be able to add another HD with the savings.

I went with a ATX full tower only because I don't want any future problems with card sizes and SLI, but I guess most Mid towers have no problems with space?

Yeah, mid towers are really spacious these days. They have cool features like removable HDD cages to make space for video cards and improve airflow. Take a gander at the OP, those still stand as my case recommendations, and I obsess about cases more than any other part.

Sure!

Budget: $1,600 (not including keyboard, mouse, displays)
Main Use: Programming, HD Streaming, General usage, Gaming
Monitor Resolution: I have an ASUS VS248H -P 24" and will buy another one eventually, 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Need to run eclipse and other IDE's well, photoshop, and I'd like around 50-60FPS with decent settings
Looking to reuse any parts?: No old parts to use
When will you build?: Building in Mid-July, so Haswell and 7xx cards will be on the table
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

You'd be well served by the enthusiast build.

Swap in a 4770K, GTX 770/780 and one of these motherboards:

Before really really putting stock in any one board, I would like to hear some user reviews. It seems like the major issues don't pop up until a month or so after release, and you get some more negative anecdotes out there.

Also, anyone in this thread that has an opinion one way or another, I'd love to hear it. Best part about PC GAF is that the collective knowledge adds up to one really smart motherfucker.

But, just going purely on features and every bit of information I can scrape together from reviews, these are my current leanings. Bolded are my specific picks for each category.

Enhanced: Gigabyte Z87MX-D3H, Gigabyte Z87-D3HP
Excellent: MSI G45 Gaming, ASUS Z87 Plus, Gigabyte UD3H
Enthusiast: MSI GD65 Gaming, Gigabyte Sniper M5, MSI MPower​

Best value of the bunch would be the G45 Gaming.

 

[Salaadin]

Technically anything over 1600 is an overclock. Though i think Haswell does officially support some higher rams. Nothing bad will happen either way. You'll be finel

Cool, thanks.

So the RAM would just run at 1600 (or whatever I set it to in BIOS) until I OC it?

 

[VE3TRO]

Is there some reason my Asus VG248QE 144hz shouldn't be plug and play with my old setup (GTX 460)? I just tried it on my old rig and it displays the desktop for a few seconds then flashes white and goes black.

This should be plug and play right? A bit worried about hooking it up to my new rig when I finish it later this week.

Have you installed the drivers from the disc? I was having a similar problem when trying to watch iTune movies due to the HDCP.

 

[mkenyon]

Is there some reason my Asus VG248QE 144hz shouldn't be plug and play with my old setup (GTX 460)? I just tried it on my old rig and it displays the desktop for a few seconds then flashes white and goes black.

This should be plug and play right? A bit worried about hooking it up to my new rig when I finish it later this week.

Make sure you are using a dual link DVI cable, and that your specific 460 in fact has a dual link DVI output. If it's a reference 460, both should be.

 

[kennah]

Starting the X79 Sabertooth build tonight. Pretty excited to bench this puppy

 

[Sothpaw]

Make sure you are using a dual link DVI cable, and that your specific 460 in fact has a dual link DVI output. If it's a reference 460, both should be.

Hmm, still not working. I guess I'll try it on the 7970 rig when that's done. Should I use HDMI for the first time I boot up the brand new system (and install windows) or would it be safer to use the dvi cable?

 

[mkenyon]

It doesn't really matter one way or the other.

 

[musicjunkie]

Best value of the bunch would be the G45 Gaming.

So that's the one I was eyeing but doesn't say on the newegg page is has raid 1 support. About every mobo over $100 has raid support these days right?

 

[mkenyon]

With RAID 1, I'd even suggest that you have windows handle it.

But yeah, that's native to the Z87 chipset and the Intel SATA controller.

 

[scogoth]

Starting the X79 Sabertooth build tonight. Pretty excited to bench this puppy

How many builds you got planned now?

 

[mkenyon]

Also, folks, don't forget this really helpful and not offensive in any way video for help on building your new MSI G45 gaming system.

Spoiler

was on the MSI product page when I was double checking RAID 1 support

 

[scogoth]

Spoiler

was on the MSI product page when I was double checking RAID 1 support

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure thats why you were watching it

 

[xJavonta]

Why are all the 1150 mATX boards so ugly. There's like two good looking boards.

 

[Horse Detective]

Also, folks, don't forget this really helpful and not offensive in any way video for help on building your new MSI G45 gaming system.

Spoiler

was on the MSI product page when I was double checking RAID 1 support

She really gets into those games


such enthusiasm

 

[kennah]

How many builds you got planned now?

This one is for a friend. For myself I currently have 3 counting your MacBook (max ram and SSD plus HDD)

CompactSplash #017
Subaru Rally Blue
i5-2550k @ 5.0ghz
H100 until I can afford the custom loop
P8z77-i
8 gig Samsung Green Ram
128gig 830
1tb wd blue
4 gig evga gtx 670
450w nonmodular silverstone sfx psu
Noctua fans all around

Hackintosh Pro
3770k
Hyper 212
Ga-z77m
Gtx 470 until I pick up a cheap 670/680
16gig of 2133 ripjawsZ
2x 36gig 10,000 rpm raptor
2x 320gig 7200 raided scratch discs
1x 1tb storage disc
Blu ray burner
Antec hcg 520 in a lian li pc-62 until I get either an Apee or CaseLabs S5
Running osx, FCP and Adobe so I can work from home.

Also a 3tb mirrored Drobo for good measure on the network.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

She really gets into those games


such enthusiasm

such overdubbing...amazing

 

[scogoth]

This one is for a friend. For myself I currently have 3 counting your MacBook (max ram and SSD plus HDD)

CompactSplash #017
Subaru Rally Blue
i5-2550k @ 5.0ghz
H100 until I can afford the custom loop
P8z77-i
8 gig Samsung Green Ram
128gig 830
1tb wd blue
4 gig evga gtx 670
450w nonmodular silverstone sfx psu
Noctua fans all around

Hackintosh Pro
3770k
Hyper 212
Ga-z77m
Gtx 470 until I pick up a cheap 670/680
16gig of 2133 ripjawsZ
2x 36gig 10,000 rpm raptor
2x 320gig 7200 raided scratch discs
1x 1tb storage disc
Blu ray burner
Antec hcg 520 in a lian li pc-62 until I get either an Apee or CaseLabs S5
Running FCP and Adobe so I can work from home.

Also a 3tb mirrored Drobo for good measure on the network.

Ew. Colours man!

 

[kennah]

Ew. Colours man!

I'm thinking of painting the brown parts blue

 

[Sothpaw]

It doesn't really matter one way or the other.

Just hooked it up to the PS3 with HDMI and same issue. Should I just deem it broken and return at this point?

 

[Ty4on]

I'm thinking of painting the brown parts blue

Why won't someone make a Noctua themed PC
Brown can look good too!

 

[scogoth]

Why won't someone make a Noctua themed PC
Brown can look good too!

Because other than the sabertooth board nobody makes brown parts

 

[kennah]

Why won't someone make a Noctua themed PC
Brown can look good too!

No beige motherboards.

And in a way. Computers were noctua themed for 20 years I only recently put away the Beige Tower of Power. An AOpen HX08

 

[Durante]

Also, folks, don't forget this really helpful and not offensive in any way video for help on building your new MSI G45 gaming system.

Oh wow, more manufacturers should produce such realistic, educational and not at all offensive content!

 

[mkenyon]

After reading this, I might have to revise my motherboard recommendations.

The RoG line is shipping with some seriously amazing tools.

Just hooked it up to the PS3 with HDMI and same issue. Should I just deem it broken and return at this point?

Contact support first.

 

[HoosTrax]

Also, folks, don't forget this really helpful and not offensive in any way video for help on building your new MSI G45 gaming system.

Spoiler

was on the MSI product page when I was double checking RAID 1 support

That video did nothing for me...I demand the chippendales version.

Also, the black/red Scout looks slightly less hideous than the white one. Still too plasticky.

First..... GOLD
Second on the ROG boards.... I hate you, now I want to buy them.....

Everyone stole ASUS's non-ROG color scheme.
ASUS stole ASRock's color scheme.
Gigabyte randomly decided to channel DFI.

 

[scogoth]

After reading this, I might have to revise my motherboard recommendations.

The RoG line is shipping with some seriously amazing tools.


Contact support first.

First..... GOLD
Second on the ROG boards.... I hate you, now I want to buy them.....

 

[nbthedude]

Also, folks, don't forget this really helpful and not offensive in any way video for help on building your new MSI G45 gaming system.

was on the MSI product page when I was double checking RAID 1 support

That song is the worst part.

To be fair it is no more embarassing than the kimd of shit reputable tech sites like Toms Hardware do every Christmas where they hire supermodels to pose with mice and RAM and other shit in suggestive poses with pouty lips.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/holiday-gift-hardware-computer,3092-8.html

 

[mkenyon]

Everyone stole ASUS's non-ROG color scheme.
ASUS stole ASRock's color scheme.
Gigabyte randomly decided to channel DFI.

Just had flashbacks to mid 2000 LANs. The amount of UV lights probably permanently damaged my retinas.

That song is the worst part.

To be fair it is no more embarassing than the kimd of shit reputable tech sites like Toms Hardware do every Christmas where they hire supermodels to pose with mice and RAM and other shit in suggestive poses with pouty lips.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/holiday-gift-hardware-computer,3092-8.html

This is the worst string of words I've seen today. Shame. SHAME ON YOU.

 

[Horse Detective]

Is the cpu typically the part one would replace least often? Or the motherboard?

 

[HoosTrax]

Is the cpu typically the part one would replace least often? Or the motherboard?

PSU, in my case. (Corsair HX1000)

 

[Addnan]

Is the cpu typically the part one would replace least often? Or the motherboard?

Right now it's probably the least often along with the motherboard, since each upgrade is so small that's it's just not worth upgrading until a few gen have passed.

 

[ahayschi]

Yeah, mid towers are really spacious these days. They have cool features like removable HDD cages to make space for video cards and improve airflow. Take a gander at the OP, those still stand as my case recommendations, and I obsess about cases more than any other part.

You'd be well served by the enthusiast build.

Swap in a 4770K, GTX 770/780 and one of these motherboards:



Best value of the bunch would be the G45 Gaming.

Thanks for your suggestions. Since the 4770k seems to be warmer than the 3770, do you think the Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler would be wise?

 

[sunnz]

So I need a new mouse due my mine double clicking.

I am tempted to get the Corsair M65 but was wondering if there is any default recommended mouse? I currently have the g500.

Also, any news on when the steelseries Apex Keyboard will be out? Can't find a date.

 

[M3z_]

1440p 100hz $290, I love Korean monitors

 

[xJavonta]

So I need a new mouse due my mine double clicking.

I am tempted to get the Corsair M65 but was wondering if there is any default recommended mouse? I currently have the g500.

Also, any news on when the steelseries Apex Keyboard will be out? Can't find a date.

That Corsair looks sexy but I have a new-found love for the DeathAdder

 

[HammerOfThor]

Order placed!!

Can't wait to join the master race enthusiast class gamer ranks this weekend

 

[nbthedude]

Just had flashbacks to mid 2000 LANs. The amount of UV lights probably permanently damaged my retinas.

This is the worst string of words I've seen today. Shame. SHAME ON YOU.

Yeah, perhaps I left out the word "supposedly." And I know about their problems being behind the curve on some of their benchmarking methods and their crass commercialism and "articles" that are thinly veiled advertising, but I will cop to still visiting them on occasion. Mainly just because I started something like a decade and a half ago and I am sentimental about internet 1.0. But my may point was that those "gift guides" are gross.

 

[kennah]

Order placed!!

Can't wait to join the Master Race this weekend

We.. Uh.... We don't say that anymore.

 

[etrain911]

Your Current Specs: So far all I've really managed to nail down is a Sandisk 250 GB SSD that I found for $149. Everything else is kind of up in the air. I'm not sure that 2 GB GDDR5 will be enough for next gen, so I'm hoping that a 4 GB GTX 770 will come out. I forgot to add that I'm probably going with the i5 3570k since I heard Haswell isn't really anything to write home about.
Budget: My price range is about $1200 USD including the monitor.
Main Use: 5. Gaming 4. Word and office uses 3. Emulation 2. Light gaming 1. Video and Photo editing.
Monitor Resolution: This is my first ever build, I'm getting the money to build it as a grad present as I'll be taking it with me to college. That said I'll probably go with one of the cheaper monitors listed in the OP. I'm definitely gonna want 1080p resolution though.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: 30 FPS is totally acceptable, but the sweet spot for me is 60 fps at mid-ultra settings. I hate the word "futureproof" but I do want to get a graphics card that will last me through the first 2-3 years of the next console generation. I don't need to play every game at 60 fps ultra settings, but it would be nice not to have to pay for a new card right out of the gate.
When will you build?: I'm going to be ordering the parts and building it around the end of July/the beginning of August so it will be ready for the first week of September.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes-Maybe

I want to thank all of you GAFfers for being so willing to help everyone with their builds, specifically mine. It's daunting, but you feel a special kind of pride when you customize and create something great for yourself and it's cool that I'll get to share in that.

 

[nbthedude]

We.. Uh.... We don't say that anymore.

Many of us never did.

I prefer enthusiast class gamer. Welcome to home base, HammerofThor.

 

[RedSwirl]

Is 550w good for a system with a 7870?

 

[kennah]

Is 550w good for a system with a 7870?

Depends. Which powersupply?

 

[n0n44m]

ahhh crunch time at uni is over, time to play games (with my new Rift) look for PC upgrades

Haswell ? I love attacking brand new CPUs with razor blades, vices and hammers but my 2600K already provides adequate framerates frametimes

Titan ? bit too pricey
780 ? That's somewhat better ... will 3 GB be enough ? Probably but you better not be wrong for that price
770 Lightning SLI ? I'd love to have Lightning cards, but it's a huge investment for a relatively small upgrade with again just 2GB VRAM

GTX 770 4 GB SLI ... €900 for the pair and my old blocks fit (on the Zotac card) ? I don't lose any value on the waterblocks, upgrade to 4GB 7GHz memory and faster cores ... but it is kinda boring as well, and the 256 bit memory bus still is quite a bottleneck ... then again it should run next-gen ports at 1080p right ? right ? I figure I can get around €550 for my 670s, so that would be an OK upgrade if the VRAM makes a difference in the future, if not it would be a big waste of money

guess I should just wait and pray for a 780 Lightning edition

conclusion : the Intel/Nvidia monopolies fucking suck can't remember the last time I saw so much hardware being released in such a small amount of time, with nothing being really interesting unless money is no object

 

[jiffy38]

Just received my first part of my build. 120 GB samsung 840 pro SSD. Was certain they forgot to pack it when i picked up the delivery box. Man are these ever light and small compared to standard hard drives. Technology is amazing.

 

[Smidget]

1440p 100hz $290, I love Korean monitors

Where was this $290 one?

 

[Courage]

Is 550w good for a system with a 7870?

If it's a good PSU, then yes.