memecomplex
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If you're going multi monitors, it might be the only way to get good framerates/times with all the bells and whistles turned up.
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If you're going multi monitors, it might be the only way to get good framerates/times with all the bells and whistles turned up.
Thanks for the info .
im only gaming on 1 monitor but i want that rock solid performance.
oh one other thing :would a PSU of 700 watt be enough for SLI ?
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there was a lot of discussion in the oc.net CSplash thread about that very problem. Even the Gold can't quite push enough power for the Titan. Hopefully new SFX power supplies come out soon. Though the S3 is a pretty awesome case.
memecomplex
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Rock solid performance on 1 monitor? I'd say go for a single 780. 700 watt PSU is cutting it very close.
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Though the S3 is a pretty awesome case.
I'll keep the Splash for another project, you know how it goes
Rock solid performance on 1 monitor? I'd say go for a single 780. 700 watt PSU is cutting it very close.
I'll keep the Splash for another project, you know how it goes
Nah i am gonna wait for the 880 and skip the 700 series.
Currently i am sitting on a 660 but deceided i want more oomph for next gen.
From my knowledge there's no way of them knowing you overclocked unless you tell them. So if there's an issue and you're in the return/exchange window just exchange the card. Try testing the cards one at a time seeing if the issue is still there. Also try swapping the connections as well. The one that has DVI switch to HDMI etc.
Worse comes to worse just go for an RMA.
Couchaddict
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I need a new PC for girlfriend/kids use. I was following the i5-3350p adivce but I'd like to use the integrated graphics . What's the good choice between the 3450 and 3330 then?
I do have an old GT8800 for it if you Gafs think that's better than the HD2500 that's in those chips.
I do have an old GT8800 for it if you Gafs think that's better than the HD2500 that's in those chips.
Deaf Spacker
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Anyone?
I've raised a service request with the builder but am I worrying about nothing?
8800GT would be a better option. What all would they be doing with the machine? An AMD APU could always be an option too like the A10 5800K, or if you want low power usage there is the A10 5700. Newegg bundle Sim City for free with them which you could flog on.
If you're going for a locked Intel CPU Haswell could be an option too with the i5-4570S. It has the HD 4600 iGPU.
Couchaddict
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Browse Youtube, play flash games & Torchlight II if current usage of the old computer is any indication.
That could be a cheaper option. Price is really the #1 issue with this thing.
I also don't need everything. Need a case, an SDD, motherboard, cpu & ram.
Anybody have a recommendation for the best bang for my buck mobo? Just grabbed myself a 3570k, and I'm trying to save a bit of money on the mobo. I'd like to run Crossfire 7850's when the new update for that comes out (or so I was told), so it needs two PCI-E slots at least. Preferably on Amazon, since I have Prime on there, but if there's a deal somewhere else that has free shipping, I'm all for it. I'm in the US in California if that makes a difference.
You're probably best off using that 8800GT the more I think about it over something with integrated graphics, it's a waste not to use it and it's easily more powerful than anything integrated. Something like this could be an option
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $342.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 16:06 EDT-0400)
AMD also has options with the Athlon 750K
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar A55MD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($55.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $298.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 16:08 EDT-0400)
From a gaming standpoint the i3 is the better chip. For general work they're pretty much on par. Case could be changed to a Source 210 if you want something bigger with a bottom mounted PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Something like the MSI GD55 http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-Z77-G55&c=CJ
Couchaddict
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Thanks for the input & effort mate. I should have mentioned I'm in Canada but partpick has a nice option for that issue.
So, does "sold out" mean..."SOLD OUT"? As in, not adding any more units?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130921
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130921
Where in Canada? I'll help price something out in a bit.Thanks for the input & effort mate. I should have mentioned I'm in Canada but partpick has a nice option for that issue.
Thanks for the input & effort mate. I should have mentioned I'm in Canada but partpick has a nice option for that issue.
I probably should've asked first before ploughing on
Same builds in Canada would cost thisPCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.86 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $391.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 16:35 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Biostar A55MD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.86 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $349.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 16:36 EDT-0400)
I'd imagine they'll get more at some stage. Amazon has it too and plenty of stock http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CZIQXBA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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I almost take this as a "In other words, for desktop users, we weren't even trying with 1st Generation Haswell."
Still, second generation Haswell would probably only be a worthwhile upgrade to Nehalem users or earlier.
Edit: Or people using video-editing applications that will be able to take advantage of 8 physical CPUs and 8 virtual threads.
This isn't second generation Haswell, this is the successor to Ivy Bridge-E, their enthusiast range of CPUs.
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Infinite Justice
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Would be pretty fucked up if its Haswell E that has the good overclock capability LOL.
Apparently its still on socket 2011 too though slightly updated (they call it socket 2011-3) but this kinda begs the question if older socket 2011 chips can also run in it (maybe since its size and pin placements are the same)
You should've posted a week ago, I'm visiting from Manitoba, could have brought some hand me downs
. OK, so QC means that you'll be better off getting stuff shipped to you since there aren't great options local.GhostRidah
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Any programs to run to check the health of a gpu? For some reason I had a display driver crash for no reason. This is a new card and want to replace it if I know its faulty.
Hey there - Last week you guys helped me OC my i5 2500k to 4.4GHz. I didn't get a chance to play my PC last week but after some stabilization checks and game tests last weekend I thought everything was alright.
I turned on BF3 today to find massive stuttering. Even on the lowest settings I was getting maybe 30-40fps, but it was a stuttering fps at that. I'm about to try out a few other games to see if the problems persist, but was wondering if you guys have any thoughts as to why that might be happening.
My GPU is a 570.
I turned on BF3 today to find massive stuttering. Even on the lowest settings I was getting maybe 30-40fps, but it was a stuttering fps at that. I'm about to try out a few other games to see if the problems persist, but was wondering if you guys have any thoughts as to why that might be happening.
My GPU is a 570.
Is there any difference between this ram and this ram? I need me some ram, but which one is better/different?
And thanks for the advice. Ended up going with a used - like new version of this, but fulfilled through Amazon, so it was only a bit more expensive than the one you linked to. If I have any problems with it, Amazon is usually really good with returns, so it's no biggie.
And thanks for the advice. Ended up going with a used - like new version of this, but fulfilled through Amazon, so it was only a bit more expensive than the one you linked to. If I have any problems with it, Amazon is usually really good with returns, so it's no biggie.
smokeandmirrors
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Replaced my hard drive, which I hope was the source of my frequent crashes.
Everything seems more stable and a little more snappy, but it could be a) a placebo and b) be the fact that it's a new drive and more cache with it (old one was 3+ years old at this point).
Everything seems more stable and a little more snappy, but it could be a) a placebo and b) be the fact that it's a new drive and more cache with it (old one was 3+ years old at this point).
SuperSonic1305
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How far can I safely OC an i7 930? I'm at 3.3 right now.
Ah. Be careful with overclocking on that board as it doesn't report voltage accurately.
The difference is colour only, but don't get either. Get this lower profile stuff, $52 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
4GHz is about as far as most people can go afaik.
Any more specifics on the voltage inaccuracy? I have a friend who has his 3570k OC'd to I think ~4.3, and he didn't seem to have any issues with voltages once he tweaked them. Is it just poor performance, or it literally states the wrong voltage? I'm not planning on pumping it up as much for the time being either way though.
smokeandmirrors
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042A7CAA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
$60 bucks. May be useful for those that don't get taxed on amazon and or have free 2-day shipping via prime, which makes it a better deal.
Couchaddict
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You should've posted a week ago, I'm visiting from Manitoba, could have brought some hand me downs
Yes, especially if they don't have any inprovince presence I will only pay GST.
Ooh, cool. I'll grab it through Amazon then. Thanks to the both of you!
It under-reports it
Ah, ok. As long as I'm a bit conservative, I should be ok then?
Yeah, don't try anything too aggressive with that board.
That changed with HST sadly. You'd have to order everything from Memory Express (they only have Western Canada stores) to not pay PST.
Which, isn't too bad an option, they have good prices. OK. Getting down to business and reading your old posts. Give me a coupleafew.
EDIT: What kind of budget are we working from here? Do you have any particular cases you like? Are you looking for something that is small form factor or something bigger with more expandability options? Do you have any problems with used gear? What city are you in in Quebec?
Not that I know of. Just stress it with OCCT and FURMARK.
You hitting thermal throttling maybe?
Check your load voltage and temps in the OP for both.
Install the 314 nVidia drivers too.
Awesome, thanks. One more question actually. This is the same board, for about the same price as what I got it for on Amazon, however, the Newegg deal comes with a free stick of Crucial 8GB ram. Is it worth it to cancel my Amazon orders and just go with the Newegg deal (First of all, it'd be guaranteed new), but I don't know how wise it is to run off one stick of ram. I know it'll affect performance, but is the difference worth another $60?
Temps are fine, not sure about load voltage.
EDIT: What is a good core voltage to be at?
EDIT 2: My core voltage was at 1.450V which is too much, right? I should be around 1.35 correct?
The difference isn't worth $60 no. Still if you're going to cancel and re-order I can't recommend going for the Extreme4, there are better boards for the same money. That GD55 for $125 also has the free 8GB RAM too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130644
Hmm. My only issue with a lot of these is that I've NEVER had a good experience with rebates, haha. Regardless, I appreciate all the help and advice!
I saw this earlier. Looks like imma be chillin with the 2600k/z68 platform until this hits
I also love the case they show in the gamers category. EVGA does the same "style" with its posters that are included with their GPUs. Meh
Well then consider it a $5 premium for a better board if the rebate doesn't come off
Should be under 1.35V. Very possibly even under 1.30V for 4.4GHz.
Well then consider it a $5 premium for a better board if the rebate doesn't come off
Gotcha, haha.
Ok. My Offset Voltage is (+) 0.005V and it's running at around 1.328V-1.336V. It fixed my stuttering and FPS issues after running the Batman benchmark.
If I wanted it in the lower 1.3's, would I set the Offset Voltage to (-) and incrementally bump it down?
Couchaddict
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Well damn. Altho my last Amazon order was only charged 5%
~400$ pre tax. As I said, I don't need everything. Just the 5 items mentionned before. Altho I could drop the SSD but I think my GF would like the speed improvement.
Mid Tower is big enough. USB 3.0 Ready & Buttons on top. No crazy designs. The previously mentioned Fractal Design seems nice enough. (It's not for my computer, I won't have to look at the thing. My computer is in an HAF 922).
Yes, no used gear. Laval. I usually deal with NCIX, I have nothing but good thing to say about that company.
Yes. Go negative with Offset. Or, you can lower other settings that increase VCore voltages, like LLC from Extreme to Very high to high or etc.
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