Sir Abacus
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Just got the H80i installed. Quiet profile?
Better than many of the things on the Extreme 4
.What is wrong with the Extreme 4?
Low-quality D-PAK MOSFETs, which have a tendency to overheat and wear out with high overvolts
Claiming to have a digital VRM which is actually analogue
Under-reports voltage, which can be very dangerous for your CPU
Looks like an 8-phase VRM on top, but they actually parallel them in pairs so it's only 4-phase.
And my response:Really? I got the Extreme 4. ;/
Basically this stuff is all shady and the only real problems that will result are running CPU Voltage above 1.30V (Although your load temps if overclocking should reflect this additional voltage).A bit more information (I'd still buy something else):
I learned about DPAK Mosfets. Serviceable and cheap, not going to fault them here, yes they should have used something else, but remember these boards were 'better featured' for a long time at ~$105 and crept up to $130
Shady VRM
The under reporting CPU coltage is shady as hell, but only should become a hazardous factor above 1.30V
8-phase VRM with (iirc) what is basically a 4-phase driver, so not truly 8-phase. Shady.
If you set voltage to 1.2-1.25V and watch your load temps that's fine. Those should scale up safe enough.I'm not planning to push the voltage now. Thanks for the info.
So, 8-core desktop chips and DDR4 from Intel for the desktop with Haswell-E in 2014. Maybe that will finally be the time to upgrade.
for next year i might go with a two 880 cards in SLI.
One thing :are there still any issues that can happen (microstutter etc )
or have they been mostly ironed out ?
You should find a time traveller and ask them.
Friend wants to get his first PC for games. 650 Ti the best performance/dollars card? Then if he wants, can upgrade for next gen games when the 800 or 900 are released?
Hi Everyone,
Gonna need your advice again.
I bought a pc last year to play games and make music. Now I regret that choice. I want to take out my gtx680 and build a gaming pc. I want to use this pc for my music only.
I want the cheapest build so I can add my gtx680 and use it for gaming.
Thanks!
Looks like a solid build.what do u think of this pc? i have a friend who want to sell me this in europe im thinking whats the right price of it. also, do u think i can do well for at least 2 years?
- CASE ATX MIDI TOWER ANTEC P183
- MB ASUS P8Z68-V 1155 4xDDR3 2XUSB 3.0 PCI-E
- CPU INTEL i7 2600K QUAD CORE SKT 1155 3.4GHZ
- VGA PNY NVIDEA GEFORCE GTX 580 1.5GB DDR5 XLR8 PERFORMANCE EDITION
- RAM 8GB (2x 4GB DDR3 1600 Mhz CORSAIR CMX4GX3M1A1600C9)
- HD 1TB 3.5 SATA3 WD CAVIAR BLACK 7200RPM
- ALIMENTATORE ATX 720W ENERMAX LIBERTY ECO II 80+ BRONZE
- DVD RW SATA SAMSUNG SH-222AB/BEBE BLACK DVD-/+
- SCHEDA INTERNA WIFI TP-LINK TL-WN851N 300Mbps CON ANTENNE
thanks
Define cheap for us. What sort of budget are we talking?
money is not the problem, but I don't want to overdo it (I am not the guy who wastes his money). I already have the most important thing, the GPU. maybe in the future gonna add another gtx680.
-->>It has to play all the game for the next 5-6 years. <<--
I also don't play full screen since it's connected on my TV. So I use lower resolution.
Looks like a solid build.How much are you paying for it
edit: just saw you are asking how much its worth . I'm not so good with that, but that PC is good!
I am confused. What resolution is your tv? If it is 720 a 680 is overkill.money is not the problem, but I don't want to overdo it (I am not the guy who wastes his money). I already have the most important thing, the GPU. maybe in the future gonna add another gtx680.
-->>It has to play all the game for the next 5-6 years. <<--
I also don't play full screen since it's connected on my TV. So I use lower resolution.
I am confused. What resolution is your tv? If it is 720 a 680 is overkill.
I went with the 7970 GHz Edition. Way better value for similar performance.
50% more VRAM. Both the XFX and Sapphire ones are less than $400 now after rebate ($382 and $370 respectively). And the value argument just goes out the window once you factor in the potential resale value of the 4 games you get for free with the AMD card. Nvidia is just not competitive in terms of value at that tier.
Sorry. i should have been more clear .
I meant problems with SLI configurations with cards we have now today EX. two 680s.
What would be a good gpu if you're doing most of your gaming through a 720 TV? I was thinking a 650ti.
This is the card I'm looking at:
http://www.dospara.co.jp/5sp/shoppi...=1&br=31&sbr=213&ic=361523&waad=hX0TUucV&lf=0
Free 8GB ram with MSI Mpower board @ newegg. Seems like a good deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148661
Any opinions on crucial memory?
Edit: oh it's 1x8 GB stick. Maybe somebody building 16 will want it.
And the worst thing about it was that people were recommending it for like a year as the go to good value motherboard.
Okay, so yesterday I overclocked my 7950s core clock to 1150MHz. Games run fine and using Heaven Benchmark runs fine. All my temps are fine.
However, every time I try to play any video, I get this:
and then once that goes away, this keeps happening until I restart(its hard to tell, but there is a line on the top of the monitor(its noticeable if you look above the Recycle Bin to the left).
This only happens to the one monitor(connected thru HDMI) my other monitor(connected thru DVI) is fine.
Is my card dead? Are there any steps I can take to try to remedy the situation?
So; I start up my machine everything works fine until I try to play a video, then the above happens. If I restart everything if fine again(games, etc) until I play a video, whether its a downloaded video or Youtube.
Free 8GB ram with MSI Mpower board @ newegg. Seems like a good deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148661
Any opinions on crucial memory?
Edit: oh it's 1x8 GB stick. Maybe somebody building 16 will want it.
That's what I picked up. Is it a problem just having one 8 gig stick?
The only "problems" I can think of is that some games don't support SLI, and some are so terribly CPU bound that SLI isn't of use.
Thanks. I'll go that way then.A 650 Ti BOOST gets you a lot more performance if you have a few extra yen down the back of the sofa.
Here, let me refresh your memory:
1. SLI adds 1 frame of latency per GPU added.
2. SLI has sporadic instances of microstutter.
3. SLI makes animation rougher.
4. VSync pretty much cures 2 and 3 but adds more latency.
5. SLI adds annoying flickering visual artifacts to some compatible games like Hawken and BF3 with no solution (last I played).
What thermal paste is best these days?
Your temps are both fine.Are these good temps??
CPU: I7 3770-K 3.5GHz
MOBO : ASUS P8Z77-V LK
Cooler: Cosair H60 (Second Edition)
Idle Temps
CPU %100 Stress Test Temp
The latest videocardz.com nvidia graph has the 760 as a bit slower than the 670 and the graph was right about the performance of both the 770 and 780 which makes me think the 760 could possibly be faster replacement for the 660 Ti. Also, the initial articles detailing the leaks of the 780/770/760 Ti specifically mentioned the Ti part and those articles are not that old, I doubt that nvidia would have dropped the Ti suffix in such a short space of time which makes me think that the 760 is not the rumoured 760 Ti.What? 760 launching?
Several e-shops in Eastern Europe already has the card in the database, but out of stock (most likely awaiting shipments). There is no specifications, but they have manufacturers code:
GV-N760OC-2GD (Google the code for hopes to find any information)
The card is priced about 8-14% higher than the 660Ti. About 3-8% less than 670. I think this means that 760Ti is replaced with 760.
you lose out on a bit of performance but it is nothing major.
1) If it does occur, it's not an issue for 99% of players, in my opinion. Only eSports professionals would need to worry with that. I personally have never noticed it, and I'm extremely sensitive to input lag and things like vsync.
2) Not on 600, 700 series and TITAN cards: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
3) Not on 600, 700 series and TITAN cards: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
4) VSync adds latency and input lag on even single-GPU systems. Also, most people with SLI don't enable VSync
5) I've never experienced that, and I have hundreds of hours invested between the two games.
If you want to read more about the current state of SLI I recommend the PCP and TechReport articles: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin http://techreport.com/review/24553/inside-the-second-with-nvidia-frame-capture-tools
Your temps are both fine.
Just curious what your ambient home temp is?
Either way. You're all good there.
The only "problems" I can think of is that some games don't support SLI, and some are so terribly CPU bound that SLI isn't of use.
Here, let me refresh your memory:
1. SLI adds 1 frame of latency per GPU added.
2. SLI has sporadic instances of microstutter.
3. SLI makes animation rougher.
4. VSync pretty much cures 2 and 3 but adds more latency.
5. SLI adds annoying flickering visual artifacts to some compatible games like Hawken and BF3 with no solution (last I played).
1) If it does occur, it's not an issue for 99% of players, in my opinion. Only eSports professionals would need to worry with that. I personally have never noticed it, and I'm extremely sensitive to input lag and things like vsync.
2) Not on 600, 700 series and TITAN cards: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
3) Not on 600, 700 series and TITAN cards: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
4) VSync adds latency and input lag on even single-GPU systems. Also, most people with SLI don't enable VSync
5) I've never experienced that, and I have hundreds of hours invested between the two games.
If you want to read more about the current state of SLI I recommend the PCP and TechReport articles: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin http://techreport.com/review/24553/inside-the-second-with-nvidia-frame-capture-tools
Andy, I had 2 Titans in SLI and a GTX 690 before that. I have extensively tested both in single and SLI configs. I think it's a fallacy to attribute the latency problem as an issue that only the esports pros will notice, because I'm not and I do notice it. Latency aside, which can be somewhat negligible when you maintain framerates above 100fps, the animation roughness without VSync is something I cannot deal with.
Even with VSync on, Tomb Raider exhibited random hitches when looking around compared to running it on a single GPU (60Hz screen).
Also Andy, let's face it, you're not going to say anything bad about SLI now are you? When peeps buying extra GPUs is good for the bottom line
In other news, my 3770K @ 4.6GHz and OCed Titan may prove too much for the 450Watt SFX PSU. Playing Warframe on a moderate 100MHz overclock and 25 mV over voltage shuts my system down and reboots it.
I think I'm just going to order an S3 so I can use an ATX PSU...
I currently have a PC with the following specs:
- I7 920 quad @ 2.67 ghz
- amd ati 5770
- 6 gb ddr ram
I don't think that I will want to replace my rig until 1-1.5 years after the launch of the next-gen consoles.
Is there any possibility to, via a relatively small investment, increase the performance of my current setup? I am aware that the graphics card was a performance/cost related concession.