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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.

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Thorgal

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TheFLYINGManga_Ka said:
Wow just turning off SSA lowers the temp on my GPU by like 10 degrees!

Why is it so demanding on a GPU?
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TheFLYINGManga_Ka said:
Yes, one of those! SSAA.

Even on very high settings, turning it off kept the temp down. Fan barely tell the difference.
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SSAA renders the game at a higher resolution then your screen (supersampling).

ex at 2 x SSAA it is rendering at double your normal screen res.
its great for aliasing but it makes your card sweat.
 
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TheFLYINGManga_Ka

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Thorgal said:
SSAA renders the game at a higher resolution then your screen (supersampling).

ex at 2 x SSAA it is rendering at double your normal screen res.
its great for aliasing but it makes your card sweat.
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Okay, that explains it. Thanks.

I guess for the sake of my GPU, keeping it off would be the best way to go.
 
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kSt

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Got my GTX770. 2GB of memory is meh in 2014, but i got it for cheap, and I don't want to wait until miners stop buying out R9's.
 
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Dacon

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Was directed here so I'll post this here:

So I recently put a new system together with an evga x79 ftw mobo, a I7-3820 3.60 ghz cpu, an nvidia Geforce GTX 660 and G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB ram.

I've never really fooled with overclocking and I was wondering if it was worth looking into with this system. If it helps I have a Xigmatek Gaia SD1238 heatsink on my cpu.

I know relatively nothing about overclocking, so please be patient.
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Taruranto

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kharma45 said:
It's not the best. Save more and go Intel, either the 3570K or the 4670K.



Open the side panel and take a photo of the label on it and show us.
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I'm late

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Nakazato

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Just built my 1st pc :D

Friend came over the 26th an just supervised my build.

I'm running every thing atm at 1650 x 1050 with a mixture of med (normal) and high.

I got the pc itch now lol

I3 2100 @ 3.1
5750
4 gigs of ram

Going to roll like this untill I can afford a 270 and another 4 to 8 gigs of ram.
 
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demosthenes

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Asked in the Steam sale but the thread is moving really fast...

demosthenes said:
General question on Steam. For games that support cloud saves. If I play game X on 1 computer, save it and quit it. Then go to computer 2, how long does it take for that save to be accessible on the other computer?
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Google search isn't giving an exact answer.
 
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Zaph

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demosthenes said:
Asked in the Steam sale but the thread is moving really fast...



Google search isn't giving an exact answer.
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When you save and quit the game, you'll see the Steam system tray icon syncing (uploading saves). Its speed depends on 1) the size of the save files and 2) your upload speed. Once it's finished (the tray icon will go back to normal), it's available for use on other computers, you just have to wait for that steam client to finish downloading (which should be much faster).
 
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demosthenes

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Zaph said:
When you save and quit the game, you'll see the Steam system tray icon syncing (uploading saves). Its speed depends on 1) the size of the save files and 2) your upload speed. Once it's finished (the tray icon will go back to normal), it's available for use on other computers, you just have to wait for that steam client to finish downloading (which should be much faster).
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I assumed this. So once you start the other computer and game does it just download when you start the game?
 
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Zaph

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demosthenes said:
I assumed this. So once you start the other computer and game does it just download when you start the game?
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Yes, either when the client starts, or when you launch the game. Not sure which.

Either way it's seamless so long as you let the client finish uploading the saves before you quit Steam (you'll get a warning if you trying to quit while it's still uploading).
 
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demosthenes

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Zaph said:
Yes, either when the client starts, or when you launch the game. Not sure which.

Either way it's seamless so long as you let the client finish uploading the saves before you quit Steam (you'll get a warning if you trying to quit while it's still uploading).
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Awesome, thanks.

Yea that's one thing I always make sure I do. I always quit steam before turning PC off and I always give Steam a few minutes before I quit it.
 
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Sid

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kharma45 said:
Perfect.

If gaming, 2x4GB of any speed as long as it's 1.5v or below. For media work same but 2x8GB.



If the camera you used to take this photo is as good as your PSU then you're in trouble.

I jest, what does the +12v one say?
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Thx,which single GPU (except the Titan) would you recommend to go along with this build?
 
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kharma45

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Sid said:
Thx,which single GPU (except the Titan) would you recommend to go along with this build?
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Depends on your budget. 780 and the 290 (non-reference) are great with the 290 being the better of the two, but coin mining has ruined the prices on them for gaming.
 
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wildfire

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It's good to see word about the Haswell Core i3 is spreading. There are legitimate use cases for picking AMD (compiling or running intensive spread sheets) or a more expensive intel CPU (adobe or CAD) but strictly for gaming Intel accidentally provided a massive bargain this year.
 
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kharma45

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Demon Lizardman said:
around 2000 dollars.
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$2K gets you a lot of PC. I'm going to go with a sensible build first and this is still great btw

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.65 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1083.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 14:30 EST-0500)

Improvements that can be made for gaming are a bigger GPU really, a 4770K is nice but very few games can use all the threads it provides. Since you've plenty of cash it could be an option if you wanted. Also you could get a more efficient, quieter PSU with an 80+ Gold one from the likes of Seasonic, and you could bump your GPU up to basically anything you wanted. There is tonnes of room to play with in your budget but this machine is a good starting point I feel.
 
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kharma45

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guit3457 said:
I was looking for unboxing videos of the R9 290 and I can't belive how noisy this card is:

http://youtu.be/jt02-ZTWgK8?t=3m8s

I have just decided to buy an Asus 770 DirectCU II because I play in 1080p. I guess I don't need more.
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Yeah the reference ones are crazy loud, non-reference ones feel like a totally different beast. One review found the card runs 27c cooler going from reference to a non-reference cooler, it was the triple cooled Sapphire one iirc.

770 is a good card for 1080p, will serve you well.
 
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yatesl

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kharma45 said:
$2K gets you a lot of PC. I'm going to go with a sensible build first and this is still great btw

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ( @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ( @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ( @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ( @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ( @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ( @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ( @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ( @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ( @ Amazon)
Total:
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 14:30 EST-0500)

Improvements that can be made for gaming are a bigger GPU really, a 4770K is nice but very few games can use all the threads it provides. Since you've plenty of cash it could be an option if you wanted. Also you could get a more efficient, quieter PSU with an 80+ Gold one from the likes of Seasonic, and you could bump your GPU up to basically anything you wanted. There is tonnes of room to play with in your budget but this machine is a good starting point I feel.
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I don't know if it's because of US$ to GB£ conversion, but I hate how much cheaper this is than mine system, when the only extra things I have are ~3TB more hard drive space, and a 770.

Working mine out, it would have cost me ~£1000, so... $1600? This was only back in June.
 
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kharma45

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yatesl said:
I don't know if it's because of US$ to GB£ conversion, but I hate how much cheaper this is than mine system, when the only extra things I have are ~3TB more hard drive space, and a 770.

Working mine out, it would have cost me ~£1000, so... ? This was only back in June.
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Yeah it's £900 for that build here, I opened PCP in the UK version to check.

We do get fucked by our stronger currency but we're paying 20% tax on our stuff whereas these bits are without tax. If you factor in 20% tax to that build it's around £790 directly converted.
 
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mkenyon

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kharma45 said:
$2K gets you a lot of PC. I'm going to go with a sensible build first and this is still great btw

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.65 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1083.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 14:30 EST-0500)

Improvements that can be made for gaming are a bigger GPU really, a 4770K is nice but very few games can use all the threads it provides. Since you've plenty of cash it could be an option if you wanted. Also you could get a more efficient, quieter PSU with an 80+ Gold one from the likes of Seasonic, and you could bump your GPU up to basically anything you wanted. There is tonnes of room to play with in your budget but this machine is a good starting point I feel.
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10/10

IAWTP
 
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wildfire

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Demon Lizardman said:
around 2000 dollars.
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Seriously?

If you want to play at a desk
EIZO FG2421 Turbo240

If you want to play with a large TV screen
SEIKI 4K HDTV – 50" Version (not 39")
Optoma GT720 DLP Projector
Optoma GT750 DLP Projector

Read this guide on how to overclock them.

http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-pc-to-tv/


The Eizo or Seiko can set you back around $700 depending on retailer you go to.

So with $1300 left over to game with.

If you care a lot about multitasking

CPU: Core i5-4670K

RAM: 8GB

If you only care about gaming and don't care about multitasking

CPU: Core i3 4330

RAM: 4GB

Motherboard: Gigabyte Sniper series (compare prices with other motherboards listed elsewhere)

If you care about security
Hard drive: Seagate Constellation ES or a Western Digital RE

SSD: Anything Samsung

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI HERO, Asus Sabertooth, any of ASrocks high end boards (too many minor differences to list them all)
You will have to buy a separate TPM module which is never included with these motherboards that can accept it.

CPU: i5-4670 (take note that this is the one without the K st the end of it)


If you care about data integrity

Hard drive: Practically any platter drive that has a good reputation

SSD: Crucial m500, Corsair Neutron GTX. (Be wary of buying Samsung 840s or anything OCZ)


If you don't care about data integrity

RAM: 32 GB of ram to make a ram drive.

If you care about 4k Gaming or Lightboost gaming

You'll need to get 3 GPUs if you want to do this upcoming games.

You'll need 2 GPUs if you want this mostly for games that are a few years old.


You'll need 1 GPU if you strictly play 2D games :p

If you don't care about 4K or Lightboost

Don't buy the displays I suggested at the very beginning.

Just get 1 GPU and wait to upgrade accordingly.

Power Supply and cooling requirements will depend heavily on the amount of GPUs you need.
 
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wildfire

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No prob. PC's have so many options I just had to point out some of the various options in case you had secondary goals you wanted to be fulfilled from your gaming PC.
 
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TheFLYINGManga_Ka

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Addnan said:
You really don't have to worry. You have a 780 if I remember correct? You have to up the settings to stretch its legs, otherwise you could have settled for something cheaper!
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I was meaning to download the EVGA control panel.

Is it pretty easy to adjust the settings, any recommended presets PC players generally do? No SLI of course, just vanilla acx version.
 
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Thorgal

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So i finally pulled the trigger on this card and should arrive soon .

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In the meantime i was wondering if anyone knows what sort of overklock to aim for with this card or point me to a guide ?
 
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