"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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kek_lel said:
Hi guys
Ive been thinking about building a new pc for quite some time now, but I need some advice on a few things:

1. I need a small mini itx case.
Ive been searching for one for ages, these in the op (bitfenix, CM, silverstone) dont really appeal.
Maybe one of you could recommend me one that you have experience with. (maybe a small lian li)

needed features (descending importance):

!-small footprint: limited depht and width (the case will sit on the desk), height is not a deciding factor
-fit a gtx760 (well actually an 860, but obviously no one knows how big or whatever it wil be)
-fit a cpu cooler that is better than stock (e.g. CM 212 evo)
-simple minimalistic looks
-should not fry the components
-maximum silence within given requirements




2. Is OCing on a mini itx MB worth shit ?

what Im looking at: 4690k overclocked on a gigabyte ga-z97n-wifi in a very small case

why do I ask: if OCing results in higher temperature and therefore faster spinning coolers I could be better off with another MB that is cheaper but lacks the OC features + a xeon e3-1231v3 which is basically an i7 without the iGPU (I dont need the iGPU and hyperthreading could be useful in the long run I suppose).


Thanks!
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What kind of budget? Great small cases cost good money.
 
kek_lel said:
Hi guys
Ive been thinking about building a new pc for quite some time now, but I need some advice on a few things:

1. I need a small mini itx case.
Ive been searching for one for ages, these in the op (bitfenix, CM, silverstone) dont really appeal.
Maybe one of you could recommend me one that you have experience with. (maybe a small lian li)


Thanks!
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I've not checked if these cover all your requirements..

Silverstone DS380 (eyeing this for a future NAS build, but it's also a normal PC chassis
211mm wide, 285mm tall, 360mm deep
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lian li PC-Q25
199mm wide, 280mm tall, 366mm deep
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If you look at a picture of a Bitfenix prodigy, those other two pretty much fit underneath the optical drive bay, and are as wide as one edge of the optical bay too

edit: This is roughly what the Lian Li would be like in comparison to the Prodigy (if I've done my sums correctly)
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Evga Hadron is a good case that meets the specs. But might not be plain enough.

If money is no object the CaseLabs S3 is excellent. Very customizable.

The Node 304 is quiet and great and very plain. (I have one)

If money were really no object you could try to find an NCase m1 or a compact splash.

There are some other cases coming out soon. I think Enthoo has a nice ITX soon. I'll try to find it.

Edit it's the Enthoo evolv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3m2DQmmTX4
 
Can anyone tell me whats likely to happen in the CPU market in the near future? Will the 4690k and 4790k be replaced soon? New processors in the fall? Nothing till broadwell? Will broadwell be worth the wait outside of power consumption?
 
Ya'll are really making me think about a micro ATX case for my next build. My current Corsair 650D is massive. So large. It barely fits on my desk. Granted it's so easy to work on, but the appeal of a small, sleek case is there. Tempting.
 
thanks for your advice mrklaw and kennah

The node 304 seems to be the best value for me if I dont want to compromise on cooling and gpu size. The design is nice. Although it seems to be quite deep .

It seems like I have to accept that a capable system needs some space.

I suppose I could do overclocking in there if I fit a Cooler Master evo 212 or something equal in there right?

So the second question I initially had about cpu choice is answered as well.
 
Buggy Loop said:
Can anyone tell me whats likely to happen in the CPU market in the near future? Will the 4690k and 4790k be replaced soon? New processors in the fall? Nothing till broadwell? Will broadwell be worth the wait outside of power consumption?
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Broadwell will likely be Q2 2015. Successors to those chips due then.

I doubt they'll be much of an improvement on the desktop side.
 
Buggy Loop said:
Can anyone tell me whats likely to happen in the CPU market in the near future? Will the 4690k and 4790k be replaced soon? New processors in the fall? Nothing till broadwell? Will broadwell be worth the wait outside of power consumption?
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Haswell-E will be released soon, and with that the first 6 core CPU below the $500 level.
 
Is a 780 ti worth it for 1080p? or is it overkill? I was planning on getting a 780, but I'm not sure if I should shell out the extra $150.
 
kek_lel said:
thanks for your advice mrklaw and kennah

The node 304 seems to be the best value for me if I dont want to compromise on cooling and gpu size. The design is nice. Although it seems to be quite deep .

It seems like I have to accept that a capable system needs some space.

I suppose I could do overclocking in there if I fit a Cooler Master evo 212 or something equal in there right?

So the second question I initially had about cpu choice is answered as well.
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It seems deeper than it is. Still smaller than any ATX case. Hyper 212 fits no problem and any gpu will fit if you pull out one of the hard drive trays.
 
Ray Wonder said:
Is a 780 ti worth it for 1080p? or is it overkill? I was planning on getting a 780, but I'm not sure if I should shell out the extra $150.
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IMO no GPU is ever "overkill" (unless you're running at like 800x600...), just depends on how long you want it to last and what settings/framerate you're comfortable with. If you're only running at 1080p60, yeah, it might not be worth it. But if you're trying to run at 144Hz, it might be. Just check out benchmarks and see what you'd be comfortable with.
 
Wounded said:
Unless you're desperate, just wait for the 800 series, or at least more information about it.
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Well I have a bunch of parts ordered, and I'm making a decision on my last part. Waiting until 800's drop is not an option.

The Llama said:
IMO no GPU is ever "overkill" (unless you're running at like 800x600...), just depends on how long you want it to last and what settings/framerate you're comfortable with. If you're only running at 1080p60, yeah, it might not be worth it. But if you're trying to run at 144Hz, it might be. Just check out benchmarks and see what you'd be comfortable with.
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I do want to take advantage of 144hz at some point, but for now I may get the 780. I'm digging pretty deep into my funds and it's starting to hurt. In a couple of months I'll upgrade once my wallet is fit again, and if the 800's are a nice enough jump. 1080p60 will have to do.
 
Ray Wonder said:
Well I have a bunch of parts ordered, and I'm making a decision on my last part. Waiting until 800's drop is not an option.



I do want to take advantage of 144hz at some point, but for now I may get the 780. I'm digging pretty deep into my funds and it's starting to hurt. In a couple of months I'll upgrade once my wallet is fit again, and if the 800's are a nice enough jump. 1080p60 will have to do.
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Well, I should clarify that a 780 will probably run a lot of games at 144Hz, but obviously a 780 ti would just be better at it. But yeah, a 780 is still a great card and you'll be fine with it.
 
Durante said:
Haswell-E will be released soon, and with that the first 6 core CPU below the $500 level.
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So actually if i was aiming for 200~250 CPU price range, haswell-e will provide nothing for me? (except price drop of all old cpus?)

Im ~this~ close to upgrade PC rig, buying a R9 280 made me hitch to upgrade the rest of it..
 
Reposting from the TechSupport thread:

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with an issue with my PC, and I wanted to get some of that quality GAFer advice. For the past 4-5 months (since I moved house with my PC), my PC has been occasionally locking up with any sound looping or slowing down. This usually requires a hard reset, although sometimes it "recovers" after 10 or so seconds. It usually, although not exclusively happens during games and video playback. In recent weeks, its become massively more common, to the point that it will happen a few times daily if used heavily.

For the past month or so, I've been almost certain that it has something to do with the PSU, as physically moving the PC often requires the 24 pin connector to be reseated/"wiggled" for the PC to boot again. I've checked the pins several times and they all seem to be fine to my un-expert eye, so my guess is that the PSU is starting to crap out. The other possibility is that it's the motherboard side of the 24-pin connector that's having issues.

Before I spend money on another PSU, do any GAFers have an idea of other possibilites, or indeed how to fix potential issues without electrocuting myself?

Edit: In case it helps, the PSU is a 700w OCZ Modxstream Pro which I got with the rest of my PC's components over 3 years ago.
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Buggy Loop said:
So actually if i was aiming for 200~250 CPU price range, haswell-e will provide nothing for me? (except price drop of all old cpus?)

Im ~this~ close to upgrade PC rig, buying a R9 280 made me hitch to upgrade the rest of it..
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Haswell-E will end up costing way more than that when you factor in the motherboard and DDR4.
 
Buggy Loop said:
So actually if i was aiming for 200~250 CPU price range, haswell-e will provide nothing for me? (except price drop of all old cpus?)

Im ~this~ close to upgrade PC rig, buying a R9 280 made me hitch to upgrade the rest of it..
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Intel doesn't price drop older CPUs. But yeah, the cheapest Haswell-E will be $300-350.
Guerrillas in the Mist said:
Reposting from the TechSupport thread:
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Possible ideas:

Completely remove and plug back in all of your power cables.
Reformat.
Reseat RAM and run memtest.
Update all of your hardware drivers, after a reformat.

Those would be my first steps in troubleshooting something similar.
garath said:
Ya'll are really making me think about a micro ATX case for my next build. My current Corsair 650D is massive. So large. It barely fits on my desk. Granted it's so easy to work on, but the appeal of a small, sleek case is there. Tempting.
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Do iiiiiiiiit. mATX is where it's at. I'm waiting for the Phanteks Evolv for my next case.

phanteks-enthoo-evolv.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3m2DQmmTX4
 
So I put a r9270x in my rig with a A8-5500 and 8gb DDR3. 550w psu. I have been having great performance thus far but I bought far cry 3 last night and can run it on ultra with msaa 2x around 33-35 fps. I saw some fc3 benchmarks that said I should be able to run it at 45 fps with 8x msaa. I get about 11-20 fps with msaa 8x.My question is it my cpu or am I doing something wrong. Pc gaming noob here. Thx.
 
Yes, your CPU is a significant bottleneck in any game where CPU performance is a factor. Some games won't have much of a bottlneck at all, but stuff like Far Cry 3 certainly will.

*edit*

for reference:

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mkenyon said:
Yes, your CPU is a significant bottleneck in any game where CPU performance is a factor. Some games won't have much of a bottlneck at all, but stuff like Far Cry 3 certainly will.
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Thank you. Since I have the ram, the gpu, and the psu. Is it smart to upgrade and get a new cpu case and mobo? I'm not trying to break the bank my my cpu has a 3000 physics score on 3dmark which is no Bueno. I'm limited by my options with an fm2 socket mobo
 
Depends on your budget entirely and what you want in terms of performance. Follow the options in the OP for the different price brackets to give you an idea of how much you'd have to spend.
 
mkenyon said:
Do iiiiiiiiit. mATX is where it's at. I'm waiting for the Phanteks Evolv for my next case.

phanteks-enthoo-evolv.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3m2DQmmTX4
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That is a sexy case. Damn. I really like the Node 304 too.

I think my wife would flip her shit if I started building a new computer. I'd need at the very least:

micro atx mobo
modular PSU
micro atx case

So upwards of $300 on top of any additional upgrades I want to do for the next round which right now is looking like an 880 to replace my 660ti. I'll stick with old reliable 2500k lol.

So tempting though. I love the look.
 
Not sure if anyone has definitive info on this but if I wanted to build the quietest gaming PC possible without full on loop water cooling what would be the best components for this?

I'm assuming case would be something like Fractal r4 and a closed liquid cooling CPU cooler like h80i. What's the quietest non reference 780ti? Would you replace the stock fans in the case? If so with what fans? Thoughts?
 
Gunmonkey36 said:
Not sure if anyone has definitive info on this but if I wanted to build the quietest gaming PC possible without full on loop water cooling what would be the best components for this?

I'm assuming case would be something like Fractal r4 and a closed liquid cooling CPU cooler like h80i. What's the quietest non reference 780ti? Would you replace the stock fans in the case? If so with what fans? Thoughts?
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If you're spending h80 money and getting an r4 you may as well go Noctua for the cooler.

Any multi fan 780 would be decently quiet and only replace the stock case fans if you find them too loud.
 
Gunmonkey36 said:
Not sure if anyone has definitive info on this but if I wanted to build the quietest gaming PC possible without full on loop water cooling what would be the best components for this?

I'm assuming case would be something like Fractal r4 and a closed liquid cooling CPU cooler like h80i. What's the quietest non reference 780ti? Would you replace the stock fans in the case? If so with what fans? Thoughts?
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Fractal case + giant noctua/prolimatech tower + prolimatech mk-26 GPU cooler:

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garath said:
That is a sexy case. Damn. I really like the Node 304 too.

I think my wife would flip her shit if I started building a new computer. I'd need at the very least:

micro atx mobo
modular PSU
micro atx case

So upwards of $300 on top of any additional upgrades I want to do for the next round which right now is looking like an 880 to replace my 660ti. I'll stick with old reliable 2500k lol.

So tempting though. I love the look.
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Two pieces of advice here.

1) Buy used parts, and sell some old stuff for whatever price. Then you're not building a new PC, you're swapping parts. This has held off my wife from over scrutinizing new purchases. When they come from amazon/newegg, there's a lot more judgement. Coming from some random person via USPS helps.

2) It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is permission.
 
mkenyon said:
Two pieces of advice here.

1) Buy used parts, and sell some old stuff for whatever price. Then you're not building a new PC, you're swapping parts. This has held off my wife from over scrutinizing new purchases. When they come from amazon/newegg, there's a lot more judgement. Coming from some random person via USPS helps.

2) It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is permission.
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A man who has been married for awhile :P

My wife usually reluctantly agrees but I usually have to buy her something too. She wants a new tattoo now... Probably a minimum of $500 for what she wants. lol

One thing I don't do enough is sell my old parts. I usually hold on to them "just in case" but I can't remember the last time a video card or other part has died out of warranty that required me rolling back to the older piece. I should sell them more.
 
So I'm a complete novice when it comes to gaming PCs, or building my own. Have absolute zero experience. Thanks to the Oculus Rift DK2 and games like Elite Dangerous, I am dangerously close to splurging and making my VR dreams a reality.

So here's what I'm looking for:

Basic Desktop Questions



  • My Current Specs: Zero. Currently just have an iMac used for browsing and media.

    Budget: Ideally something around the $1000 range would be nice, but in order to get solid future proof performance, I'd be willing to go into $1200-$1300.

    Main Use: Not sure what rating, a 4 maybe a 5? My main use will be for Oculus Rift games.

    Monitor Resolution: Don't really care about the monitor at the moment. I'll just be using my TV as the display for now. Oculus Rift will be my main display device.

    SPECIFIC games that MUST run well: I specifically want something like Elite Dangerous running at at least 75 fps @ 1080P. I'm not sure if the consumer OR will support higher resolutions though so it would be nice to possibly run at higher than 1080. I want to be able to throw any of the highest end OR demos and games at this thing and have them run at or near the optimal 75 fps.

    Looking to reuse any old parts?: Nope.

    When will you build?: No Deadline.

    Will you be overclocking?: No idea.


So yeah, basically I want an Oculus Rift machine. I just really have no idea where to start so this looked like the perfect place to ask.
 
The "excellent" build in the OP is a great place to start. If you do want to undertake maintaining a PC, you need to look at "future proofing" as meaning that your PC will be in a fairly frequent state of change, most importantly the video card. The builds in the OP are designed to be a great platform for needing nothing more than a GPU upgrade every two years or so to stay relevant for at least 5-6 years.

There is a new series of video cards coming from NVIDIA within the next 3 months, so if you were planning the build for then, it might be a good idea to wait.

If you're willing to learn how to build, then there's a ton of resources in the OP that will help you be on your way. It's essentially like a Lego kit these days, with everything fitting in to easily identifiable plugs. Then there's people in this thread that will help you along during the actual building process.

If you're located in that Pacific NW, I can help you out.

Does anyone have an idea of how the OR plays with AMD? R9 290 seems like the best option in that price bracket, but I don't know if OR is better on NVIDIA or not.
 
DJ88 said:
So I'm a complete novice when it comes to gaming PCs, or building my own. Have absolute zero experience. Thanks to the Oculus Rift DK2 and games like Elite Dangerous, I am dangerously close to splurging and making my VR dreams a reality.

Here's what I'm looking for:

Basic Desktop Questions

My Current Specs: Zero. Currently just have an iMac used for browsing and media[/B]

Budget: Ideally something around the $1000 range would be nice, but in order to get solid future proof performance, I'd be willing to go into $1200-$1300.

Main Use: Not sure what rating, a 4 maybe a 5? My main use will be for Oculus Rift games.

Monitor Resolution: Don't really care about the monitor at the moment. I'll just be using my TV as the display for now. Oculus Rift will be main display device.

SPECIFIC games that MUST run well: I specifically want something like Elite Dangerous running at at least 75 fps @ 1080P. I'm not sure if the consumer OR will support higher resolutions though so it would be nice to possible run at higher than 1080. I want to be able to throw any of the highest end OR demos and games at this thing and have them run at or near the optimal 75 fps.

Looking to reuse any old parts?: Nope.

When will you build? No Deadline.

Will you be overclocking? No idea.


So yeah, basically I want an Oculus Rift machine. I just really have no idea where to start so this looked like the perfect place to ask.
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Very top end of your budget would be a build like this, going balls deep with top end stuff

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7sH7P

GPU is this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS84DFU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Much more balanced build would be

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($372.95)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout with Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1146.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-05 14:18 EDT-0400

Dropping to a 280 and a lesser case would get you nearer your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $923.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-05 14:20 EDT-0400

mkenyon said:
Does anyone have an idea of how the OR plays with AMD? R9 290 seems like the best option in that price bracket, but I don't know if OR is better on NVIDIA or not.
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From what I can gather it makes little difference.
 
Your Current Specs:

AMD A8-5500
2TB 7200rpm HDD
8gb ddr3
XFX R9 270x DD 2gb
550w psu



Budget: $200 or less

Main Use: Rate 1-5.
5 Gaming
4 Emulation (PS2/Wii)


Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at?

1080p, 1080p 3d

Are you going to upgrade later?

No

Are you buying a new monitor?

No, just bought one

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:

Witcher 3
Metro Redux
Alien: Isolation
Far Cry 3
Skyrim
Borderlands 2


Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120?

Prefer 60fps but can handle anything North of 29fps

How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you?

Not important at all


Looking to reuse any parts?: Yes

2TB 7200rpm HDD
8gb ddr3
XFX R9 270x DD 2gb
550w psu

And I just bought a i7 3770k

When will you build?:

immediately Do you have a deadline? No deadline exactly

Will you be overclocking?: not immediately

I basically need the remaining parts (mobo, case, cooling) I'm looking to go budget on the case and I don't need any lighted fans etc. I basically am tapped out and want to finish this as efficiently (read cheap) as possible. I realize 200 may not be doable but that is my goal.
 
WarpathDC said:
Your Current Specs:

AMD A8-5500
2TB 7200rpm HDD
8gb ddr3
XFX R9 270x DD 2gb
550w psu



Budget: $200 or less

Main Use: Rate 1-5.
5 Gaming
4 Emulation (PS2/Wii)


Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at?

1080p, 1080p 3d

Are you going to upgrade later?

No

Are you buying a new monitor?

No, just bought one

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:

Witcher 3
Metro Redux
Alien: Isolation
Far Cry 3
Skyrim
Borderlands 2


Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120?

Prefer 60fps but can handle anything North of 29fps

How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you?

Not important at all


Looking to reuse any parts?: Yes

2TB 7200rpm HDD
8gb ddr3
XFX R9 270x DD 2gb
550w psu

And I just bought a i7 3770k

When will you build?:

immediately Do you have a deadline? No deadline exactly

Will you be overclocking?: not immediately

I basically need the remaining parts (mobo, case, cooling) I'm looking to go budget on the case and I don't need any lighted fans etc. I basically am tapped out and want to finish this as efficiently (read cheap) as possible. I realize 200 may not be doable but that is my goal.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $179.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-05 14:31 EDT-0400
 
mkenyon said:
The "excellent" build in the OP is a great place to start. If you do want to undertake maintaining a PC, you need to look at "future proofing" as meaning that your PC will be in a fairly frequent state of change, most importantly the video card. The builds in the OP are designed to be a great platform for needing nothing more than a GPU upgrade every two years or so to stay relevant for at least 5-6 years.

There is a new series of video cards coming from NVIDIA within the next 3 months, so if you were planning the build for then, it might be a good idea to wait.

If you're willing to learn how to build, then there's a ton of resources in the OP that will help you be on your way. It's essentially like a Lego kit these days, with everything fitting in to easily identifiable plugs. Then there's people in this thread that will help you along during the actual building process.

If you're located in that Pacific NW, I can help you out.

Does anyone have an idea of how the OR plays with AMD? R9 290 seems like the best option in that price bracket, but I don't know if OR is better on NVIDIA or not.
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Thanks for the offer, sadly I'm the furthest possible distance from you all the way on the SE corner of the US haha. The excellent build does look like a great way to start. Would the new NVIDIA cards be better performance and for the same price? Or would they be more expensive when they launch?

kharma45 said:
Very top end of your budget would be a build like this, going balls deep with top end stuff

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7sH7P

GPU is this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS84DFU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Much more balanced build would be

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


Dropping to a 280 and a lesser case would get you nearer your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
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Awesome, thanks for all the recommendations!


The last question I have is I see that all these builds include an SSD along with traditional storage. I know they're amazing and totally worth getting, but technically I could save a bit by skipping out on one for now right?
 
DJ88 said:
Thanks for the offer, sadly I'm the furthest possible distance from you all the way on the SE corner of the US haha. The excellent build does look like a great way to start. Would the new NVIDIA cards be better performance and for the same price? Or would they be more expensive when they launch?



Awesome, thanks for all the recommendations!


The last question I have is I see that all these builds include an SSD along with traditional storage. I know they're amazing and totally worth getting, but technically I could save a bit by skipping out on one for now right?
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You could definitely skip out on the SSD, but I really, really wouldn't recommend it. They make such a huge difference in the fluidity of using your computer.
 
kharma45 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $179.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-05 14:31 EDT-0400
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Ohhhhh, missed that 3770K.

Awesome. Thanks kharma.
DJ88 said:
Thanks for the offer, sadly I'm the furthest possible distance from you all the way on the SE corner of the US haha. The excellent build does look like a great way to start. Would the new NVIDIA cards be better performance and for the same price? Or would they be more expensive when they launch?



Awesome, thanks for all the recommendations!


The last question I have is I see that all these builds include an SSD along with traditional storage. I know they're amazing and totally worth getting, but technically I could save a bit by skipping out on one for now right?
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I'm hopeful for a $350-400 card that is about the same performance as the 780 Ti with the GTX 870. Might not be the case, might be the case. Hopefully it is.

IMO, skip the HDD and just get an SSD. Unless you're planning to do video recording, store tons and tons of *ahem* movies *ahem*, or something else media related, a 250GB SSD is plenty large enough for tons of games and all the programs you need.
 
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