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mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

Ravijn said:
Dumb question, why does it do that?

I never looked into it. Didn't have a use really for front panel USB 3.0, and after a day of troubleshooting, I was just happy to have it working.

ricki42 · Sep 16, 2014

Piercedveil said:
Here you go!

I think I followed this exactly as it is.

Wow! Thanks for sharing!

Ravijn · Sep 16, 2014

mkenyon said:
I never looked into it. Didn't have a use really for front panel USB 3.0, and after a day of troubleshooting, I was just happy to have it working.

I only have USB 2.0 for my front panel due to it being an older HAF case.

I'll mess around with it next time I open my case and see what happens.

Edit - Thanks Piercedveil for those color profiles.

Nostremitus · Sep 16, 2014

I've had a chance to play around with my new(to me) build.

Thanks to Mkenyon's amazingly charitable prices I have the following build.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP7 EATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Intel 530 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card
Case: Logisys CS369BK ATX Mid Tower Case w/480W Power Supply
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit)
Case Fan: Scythe Gentle Typhoon 57.7 CFM 120mm Fan
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan

I OC'd the 2500K to a super stable 4.5GHz
The ROG Matrix 7970 is solid a 1.2GHz

Some photos...

That last photo is a comparison between the R9 270 and the massive 7970.
Some numbers...

Star Swarm DX11 v Mantle

Code:

== Configuration ==========================================
API:				DirectX
Scenario:			ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input:			Disabled
Resolution:			1920x1080
Fullscreen:			True
GameCore Update:		16.6 ms
Bloom Quality:			High
PointLight Quality:		High
ToneCurve Quality:		High
Glare Overdraw:			16
Shading Samples: 		64
Shade Quality:			Mid
Deferred Contexts (D3D11):		Disabled
Small Batch Optimized (Mantle):		Enabled
Temporal AA Duration:		16
Temporal AA Time Slice:		2
Detailed Frame Info:		Off
===========================================================


== Results ================================================
Test Duration:			360 Seconds
Total Frames:			10160

Average FPS:			28.22
Average Unit Count:		4077
Maximum Unit Count:		5504
Average Batches/MS:		618.73
Maximum Batches/MS:		1481.76
Average Batch Count:		23702
Maximum Batch Count:		115149
===========================================================

Code:

== Configuration ==========================================
API:				Mantle
Scenario:			ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input:			Disabled
Resolution:			1920x1080
Fullscreen:			True
GameCore Update:		16.6 ms
Bloom Quality:			High
PointLight Quality:		High
ToneCurve Quality:		High
Glare Overdraw:			16
Shading Samples: 		64
Shade Quality:			Mid
Deferred Contexts (D3D11):		Disabled
Small Batch Optimized (Mantle):		Enabled
Temporal AA Duration:		16
Temporal AA Time Slice:		2
Detailed Frame Info:		Off
===========================================================


== Results ================================================
Test Duration:			360 Seconds
Total Frames:			20549

Average FPS:			57.08
Average Unit Count:		4544
Maximum Unit Count:		5747
Average Batches/MS:		1055.42
Maximum Batches/MS:		4129.47
Average Batch Count:		19526
Maximum Batch Count:		144014
===========================================================

Unigine Valley ExtremeHD

Code:

Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0

FPS:	
52.1
Score:	
2181
Min FPS:	
24.5
Max FPS:	
98.7
System

Platform:	
Windows 8 (build 9200) 64bit
CPU model:	
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3301MHz) x4
GPU model:	
AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series 14.100.0.0 (3072MB) x1
Settings

Render:	
Direct3D11
Mode:	
1680x1050 8xAA fullscreen
Preset	
Custom
Quality	
Ultra

Edit:

How does this look for the SSD?

kennah · Sep 16, 2014

Mkenyon hand me downs are the best hand me downs

Nostremitus · Sep 16, 2014

kennah said:
Mkenyon hand me downs are the best hand me downs

I'd say so...

tarheel91 · Sep 16, 2014

Trying to mount a 420mm rad with fans above it by yourself is pretty damn hard... Two hands are not enough.

Do you think I absolutely have to go from case to radiator with a longer screw? My life would be much easier if I could go radiator->fans and fans->case. Worried about the plastic not being able to support the weight, though.

PastorOfMuppets · Sep 16, 2014

It might just be late but I ordered a really nice Ultrasharp from Dell a few weeks back. According to Purolator, It's arriving tomorrow or Thursday and I have still yet to be charged on my credit card.

Dare I say it...is it possible that I am getting a free $400 monitor?

Anyways, this is my completed build. I got the CPU/Mobo as a part of a bundle deal that came out to $421 after taxes plus shipping insurance so I just split the cost into two ($210) each. I have 12 gigs of DDR3 RAM that will be reused, 3TB worth of hard drive space for storage. I will also be holding onto my Radeon HD6950 for as long as possible (basically until Witcher 3 comes out) to before buying a new GPU. Right now, there are no graphically intensive games that interest me enough to upgrade to the new Maxwell line of GPUs. Tell me what you guys think.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $210.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $115.00)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $210.50)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $138.90)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $37.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $25.00)
Monitor: Dell U2413 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $145.00)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $63.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9008 Shine 3 White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard (Purchased For $112.00)
Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Headphones (Purchased For $100.00)
Total: $1156.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-16 01:21 EDT-0400

eBay Huckster · Sep 16, 2014

tarheel91 said:
Trying to mount a 420mm rad with fans above it by yourself is pretty damn hard... Two hands are not enough.

Do you think I absolutely have to go from case to radiator with a longer screw? My life would be much easier if I could go radiator->fans and fans->case. Worried about the plastic not being able to support the weight, though.

And I thought mounting a 280mm rad by myself was bad enough... best of luck on mounting that behemoth.

LaffTrack · Sep 16, 2014

Maybe not the the best place to ask this question but real quickly which one of these mechanical keyboards should I buy? http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00HZE2PJS/?tag=pcp0f-20 or http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00AOIRCI6/?tag=pcp0f-20

Tommy DJ · Sep 16, 2014

They're completely different things. Different switches and different styles. The only thing I'll say is that if you use the right side if the keyboard often, the Coolermaster Quickfire isn't good since you need to press a certain key to activate those keys.

PastorOfMuppets · Sep 16, 2014

LaffTrack said:
Maybe not the the best place to ask this question but real quickly which one of these mechanical keyboards should I buy? http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00HZE2PJS/?tag=pcp0f-20 or http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00AOIRCI6/?tag=pcp0f-20

Blue switches are mostly for typing. Red switches are better for gaming - particularly games like RTS or FPS that require rapid button presses. For a good balance between both - brown switches.

LaffTrack · Sep 16, 2014

Well I am not a typist and I don't use the num pad so the CM it is. Thanks for the replies.

kharma45 · Sep 16, 2014

Nostremitus said:
I've had a chance to play around with my new(to me) build.

Thanks to Mkenyon's amazingly charitable prices I have the following build.

I OC'd the 2500K to a super stable 4.5GHz
The ROG Matrix 7970 is solid a 1.2GHz

Some photos...

That last photo is a comparison between the R9 270 and the massive 7970.
Some numbers...

Unigine Valley ExtremeHD

Edit:

How does this look for the SSD?

Jelly.

Hoya Destroyer · Sep 16, 2014

My post from the support thread, in case anyone here can help...

Well, I got my GTX 750 Ti 2GB in the mail today, but once I installed it and turned on my computer, it just hangs on the blue HP pre-boot screen. I think getting ANY image on screen eliminates the possibility of the card not being installed in the PCI slot correctly, or HDMI cable or port issues at either end.

These are my specs

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ame=c02992729&jumpid=reg_r1002_auen&lc=en#N33

This is the card

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1617&products_id=27301

I tried updating the motherboard bios and deleting my old videocard drivers, but the computer still wont boot when the new GTX is installed.
I wonder if it has something to do with the small power supply I have in the computer? Its only 300W, but it says thats all the card needs on its system requirements.
Is it possible HP have put a system in place to stop people upgrading parts? Kinda like how they dont like people using 3rd party ink cartridges on their printers. Maybe I just got a faulty card? I'd have to be pretty unlucky for that to happen I'd imagine.
I sent an email to the online retailer, so if no one here has any suggestions, I hope they can help me.

Bollocks · Sep 16, 2014

What's the best X99 board, now that they are out?
I'm eyeing the MSI X99S SLI PLUS purely because of the aesthetics(love me some all black board since my case will have a window)

LilJoka · Sep 16, 2014

Bollocks said:
What's the best X99 board, now that they are out?
I'm eyeing the MSI X99S SLI PLUS purely because of the aesthetics(love me some all black board since my case will have a window)

From my experience with X79, the Asus boards overclocked best. Gigabyte was quite bad, along with AsRock (excluding fatality series). Didn't see many MSI results tbh.

If you don't care for overclocking then go for anything you like. Check out board manufacture software too, imo asus is the best here as well.

Captain Smoker · Sep 16, 2014

So, I have to build a new PC for our office ( Adobe Suite, Video Editing, 3D, media, etc. ), no gaming.

I've currently two builds, any suggestions? The basic difference is that build #1 uses DDR4, Haswell-E and therefore another mainboard.
But I have to say that I don't know how to overclock and I don't wan't to use it.

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R (CC-9011014-WW) -- 54,85 € ----> (Edit: Maybe Carbide 400R)
CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K, 6x 3.30GHz, boxed -- 342,88 €
Heat: be quiet! Shadow Rock Slim -- 33,66 €
GPU: MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC Twin Frozr Gaming, GeForce GTX 770, 2GB GDDR5 -- 272,85 €
RAM: Crucial DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-2133, CL15-15-15 -- 173,90 €
Optical: Samsung SH-224DB schwarz, SATA, bulk -- 11,11 €
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3 -- 184,46 €
Storage: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 256GB, SATA 6Gb/s -- 150,59 €
Power: Enermax Platimax 750W ATX 2.4 -- 134,87 € ----> (Edit: I think 600W is also enough for this build)
OS: Windows 8.1 64Bit -- 75,90 €

Total: 1.435,07 €

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R (CC-9011014-WW) -- 54,85 €
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790, 4x 3.60GHz, boxed -- 260,76 €
Heat: be quiet! Shadow Rock Slim -- 33,66 €
GPU: MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC Twin Frozr Gaming, GeForce GTX 770, 2GB GDDR5 -- 272,85 €
RAM: Crucial DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-2133, CL15-15-15 -- 122,44 €
Optical: Samsung SH-224DB schwarz, SATA, bulk -- 11,11 €
Mainboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance -- 79,84 €
Storage: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 256GB, SATA 6Gb/s -- 150,59 €
Power: Enermax Platimax 600W ATX 2.4 -- 113,27 €
OS: Windows 8.1 64Bit -- 75,90 €

Total: 1.174,89 €

kennah · Sep 16, 2014

Hoya Destroyer said:
My post from the support thread, in case anyone here can help...

Well, I got my GTX 750 Ti 2GB in the mail today, but once I installed it and turned on my computer, it just hangs on the blue HP pre-boot screen. I think getting ANY image on screen eliminates the possibility of the card not being installed in the PCI slot correctly, or HDMI cable or port issues at either end.

These are my specs

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ame=c02992729&jumpid=reg_r1002_auen&lc=en#N33

This is the card

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1617&products_id=27301

I tried updating the motherboard bios and deleting my old videocard drivers, but the computer still wont boot when the new GTX is installed.
I wonder if it has something to do with the small power supply I have in the computer? Its only 300W, but it says thats all the card needs on its system requirements.
Is it possible HP have put a system in place to stop people upgrading parts? Kinda like how they dont like people using 3rd party ink cartridges on their printers. Maybe I just got a faulty card? I'd have to be pretty unlucky for that to happen I'd imagine.
I sent an email to the online retailer, so if no one here has any suggestions, I hope they can help me.

When it is on that screen try pressing Tab and see if it gives you any more info. There shouldn't be anything stopping it from working, there was an existing card that you took out first right?

fluffydelusions · Sep 16, 2014

Pc gaf what do you think. Should I open my 770 that is coming today or wait till the 18th to see what nvidia has?

luffeN · Sep 16, 2014

Can someone help me identify an issue with my monitor?

I have the LG 29EB73-P 21:9 monitor and a BenQ XL2411T. LG runs at 60 and BenQ at 120 hz. I have an i5-2500K, Windows 8 and a Sapphire Radeon 6950 2GB. I run extended mode where the LG is my primary display connected via HDMI and the Benq the extended one connetcted via DVI-D. When I watch videos, anime or play the FIFA 15 demo for example, I can sometimes see some sort of ghosting on the LG but I am not sure it is that. There is some white "pixeldust" mostly on outlines of objects or characters but only in motion. Is there any setting on the monitor itself that might make the image quality better?

Edit: I may have found the error with the latency settings and the German translation for it. Gonna test.

Edit2: Yep, that was the error...

Hoya Destroyer · Sep 16, 2014

kennah said:
When it is on that screen try pressing Tab and see if it gives you any more info. There shouldn't be anything stopping it from working, there was an existing card that you took out first right?

I just tried that, but unfortunately pressing tab doesnt make a difference. And yeah, I took out my 520GT beforehand. The fan on that 520 will frequently buzz like a bees nest since I put it back in the tower. Weird.
The blue HP screen also actually says ""press esc to access startup menu", but pressing esc doesnt do anything either.
Maybe I was just really unlucky and got a faulty card.

kennah · Sep 16, 2014

Hoya Destroyer said:
I just tried that, but unfortunately pressing tab doesnt make a difference. And yeah, I took out my 520GT beforehand. The fan on that 520 will frequently buzz like a bees nest since I put it back in the tower. Weird.
The blue HP screen also actually says ""press esc to access startup menu", but pressing esc doesnt do anything either.
Maybe I was just really unlucky and got a faulty card.

Try resetting the bios. Pull the battery, unplug the computer from the wall and press the power button. Wait about 30 seconds, plug it all back in and try again

Diablos · Sep 16, 2014

How likely is it that, say, a GTX 760 and 770 will drop in price considerably over the next few months?

I'm amazed my 660 still runs given how prone it is to constantly overheating.

I need a new case, too.

Hoya Destroyer · Sep 16, 2014

kennah said:
Try resetting the bios. Pull the battery, unplug the computer from the wall and press the power button. Wait about 30 seconds, plug it all back in and try again

Ok just so I have this straight (my computer knowledge is very limited). You want me to pull the battery off the motherboard (before I unplug it)?
I can see a battery on there, about the size of a Coke bottle top. Is there any risk to the computer by removing that battery?

Seanspeed · Sep 16, 2014

GTX780Ti for £385

Its Zotac, though. Comes with Borderlands Pre-Sequel.

By far the cheapest I've seen the card.

kennah · Sep 16, 2014

Hoya Destroyer said:
Ok just so I have this straight (my computer knowledge is very limited). You want me to pull the battery off the motherboard (before I unplug it)?
I can see a battery on there, about the size of a Coke bottle top. Is there any risk to the computer by removing that battery?

No risk. It will make the computer forget its settings and recalibrate itself on boot (your os is untouched, don't worry)

mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

Nostremitus said:
I've had a chance to play around with my new(to me) build.

Awesome!

Glad those parts are getting some solid use. Sk3tch would be proud his Matrix is still going strong.

Durante · Sep 16, 2014

My new parts (to put in the new case I got a few days ago) arrived:

Now I have everything, except time to build it (before Thursday). I actually took a few days off starting from the 18th to build and enjoy my new PC, but everything arrived more quickly than I thought it would.

Hazaro · Sep 16, 2014

Durante said:
My new parts (to put in the new case I got a few days ago) arrived:

Now I have everything, except time to build it (before Thursday). I actually took a few days off starting from the 18th to build and enjoy my new PC, but everything arrived more quickly than I thought it would.

But you receive your nVidia money hats on the 18th since it's #GAME24

yo real talk I hope I win something

The Llama · Sep 16, 2014

Macho 120? Never heard of that HSF but it looks pretty beastly just based on the picture haha.

Rafy · Sep 16, 2014

Durante said:
My new parts (to put in the new case I got a few days ago) arrived:

Now I have everything, except time to build it (before Thursday). I actually took a few days off starting from the 18th to build and enjoy my new PC, but everything arrived more quickly than I thought it would.

Corsair CS PSU for workstation class components? I'm surprised that nobody said anything about it yet...

Hazaro · Sep 16, 2014

The Llama said:
Macho 120? Never heard of that HSF but it looks pretty beastly just based on the picture haha.

Macho is a great HS, but availability is utter trash. It's supposed to be cheaper than others as well for the cooling too. Had it as a HS candidate but you can hardly buy it anywhere common last I checked.

Addnan · Sep 16, 2014

Rafy said:
Corsair GS PSU for workstation class components? I'm surprised that nobody said anything about it yet...

It's a weird one. CS is a gold rated PSU that costs similar to the CX, no idea how it fairs. I wouldn't put it in mine.

mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

Hazaro said:
Macho is a great HS, but availability is utter trash. It's supposed to be cheaper than others as well for the cooling too. Had it as a HS candidate but you can hardly buy it anywhere common last I checked.

I think it's a bit easier to find in Euroland.

AndyD · Sep 16, 2014

Can I ask for monitor advice here?

I am looking at getting a new monitor, 23-24 inches, 1920x1200 preferred, but 1080p ok. Not too many bells and whistles, to be used for some gaming and mostly home office work.

I see something like this Dell that should fit the bill nicely?
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-2676
U2412M - 24" 16:10 panel, IPS technology and LED backlight.

$280 new, but can be had on the Dell outlet site closer to $200. I am looking at it because I have some Dell gift cards to use.

Any suggestions for or against this or other monitors?

mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

That's pretty much the one to get at that price for your intended purposes.

Sectorseven · Sep 16, 2014

Can someone recommend a good wireless repeater. I see a bunch of different ones and I don't know what to go with. The router it will connect to is a dual band n, for what it's worth.

Terbinator · Sep 16, 2014

This seems as good a place as any to ask...

Thoughts on the Sony W706 32" TV as a gaming monitor for both PC & console?

Possibly thinking of sticking my U2711 on the 'Bay or similar to part fund it.

BlizzyAzz · Sep 16, 2014

Terbinator said:
This seems as good a place as any to ask...

Thoughts on the Sony W706 32" TV as a gaming monitor for both PC & console?

Possibly thinking of sticking my U2711 on the 'Bay or similar to part fund it.

I use a similar setup but with a Samsung UE32H5570, 1080p is still fine for 32" imho and it's a great screensize.

zeroeffect · Sep 16, 2014

PastorOfMuppets said:
It might just be late but I ordered a really nice Ultrasharp from Dell a few weeks back. According to Purolator, It's arriving tomorrow or Thursday and I have still yet to be charged on my credit card.

Dare I say it...is it possible that I am getting a free $400 monitor?

Anyways, this is my completed build. I got the CPU/Mobo as a part of a bundle deal that came out to $421 after taxes plus shipping insurance so I just split the cost into two ($210) each. I have 12 gigs of DDR3 RAM that will be reused, 3TB worth of hard drive space for storage. I will also be holding onto my Radeon HD6950 for as long as possible (basically until Witcher 3 comes out) to before buying a new GPU. Right now, there are no graphically intensive games that interest me enough to upgrade to the new Maxwell line of GPUs. Tell me what you guys think.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $210.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $115.00)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $210.50)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $138.90)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $37.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $25.00)
Monitor: Dell U2413 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $145.00)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $63.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9008 Shine 3 White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard (Purchased For $112.00)
Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Headphones (Purchased For $100.00)
Total: $1156.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-16 01:21 EDT-0400

I order off Dell often and they're slow at charging things like this. Expect it to be charged by the time you get it.

JetForceGemini · Sep 16, 2014

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)

**Motherboard** | [Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a78lmusb3) | $44.99 @ Micro Center

**Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bl51264ba160a) | $47.98 @ Amazon

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd2500aajs) | $25.49 @ Amazon

**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 750 2GB FTW ACX Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42758kr) | $119.99 @ Newegg

**Case** | [Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fbm01) | $23.98 @ Newegg

**Keyboard** | [Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3010kkmf1us) | $29.99 @ Amazon

| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $462.41
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-16 16:14 EDT-0400 |

How is this build just for like mid range gaming, keep in mind my main game will be nba 2k15 with mods

MoonGred · Sep 16, 2014

mkenyon said:
Awesome!

Glad those parts are getting some solid use. Sk3tch would be proud his Matrix is still going strong.

What happened to Sk3tch? I always used to lurk this thread, and he was one of those guys with awesome builds. I've been trying to remember his user name for the last week.

Durante · Sep 16, 2014

mkenyon said:
I think it's a bit easier to find in Euroland.

Yeah, it's extremely easy to find. Almost every decent shop has it in stock.

I chose the Macho 120 since it's the best tower-style HSF which fits my height/space requirements. (I have 150mm. The Macho 120 is exactly 150mm)

Rafy said:
Corsair CS PSU for workstation class components? I'm surprised that nobody said anything about it yet...

The selection of <=15cm depth PSUs with both modular cabling and decent efficiency is extremely limited. I'll just hope it works out. I mean, 650W should be roughly twice what my system uses, so it's wildly overprovisioned.

mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

MoonGred said:
What happened to Sk3tch? I always used to lurk this thread, and he was one of those guys with awesome builds. I've been trying to remember his user name for the last week.

He's around:

http://1pcent.com/

JetForceGemini said:
How is this build just for like mid range gaming, keep in mind my main game will be nba 2k15 with mods

Not great. The motherboard may have issues with delivering reliable power to the CPU. 8350 is a power hog. You are also missing a PSU.

I'd advise sticking somewhat close to the guide in the OP. My personal suggestion for entry level specs:

Durante said:
The selection of <=15cm depth PSUs with both modular cabling and decent efficiency is extremely limited. I'll just hope it works out. I mean, 650W should be roughly twice what my system uses, so it's wildly overprovisioned.

Silverstone Strider series, Coolermaster VSM series.

The Corsair CS/CX has a somewhat iffy DOA rate, and is something that is better suited for a really lower power workstation build. I'm sure it will probably be fine, but I've seen PSU stuff go horribly wrong too many times to trust it personally.

fluffydelusions · Sep 16, 2014

Well PC is now up and running though I have yet to open/install my 770. Think I will just wait till the new cards are announced and see what is what. BTW, I have the fractal r4 case. Should the led be blinking when the hdd does work? Mine are just solid blue all the time.

JetForceGemini · Sep 16, 2014

mkenyon said:
He's around:

http://1pcent.com/

Not great. The motherboard may have issues with delivering reliable power to the CPU. 8350 is a power hog. You are also missing a PSU.

I'd advise sticking somewhat close to the guide in the OP. My personal suggestion for entry level specs:

Silverstone Strider series, Coolermaster VSM series.

The Corsair CS/CX has a somewhat iffy DOA rate, and is something that is better suited for a really lower power workstation build. I'm sure it will probably be fine, but I've seen PSU stuff go horribly wrong too many times to trust it personally.

Well the cpu was an upgrade off another build lost I seen and I said what the hell might as well get a higher price cpu since I dropped the optical drive from the build

The Intel processor you got good enough for 2k at medium settings

AAnd also when it come to mods, what do they effect? I mean do mods take up more processor power or is it more storage on the hard drive???

akashhhhh · Sep 16, 2014

I wonder if someone could give me their thoughts:

I had a Powercolor HD7870 Myst edition, which was a pretty unique variant. It performed closer to a 7950. It went bust and Powercolor is offering to replace it with a TurboDuo R9 280.

It looks like I obviously gain 1GB, but it also appears I lose a smidge in the GPU clock and I lose about 250mhz in the memory clock.

Any thoughts? Should I try to push for a refund instead?

kennah · Sep 16, 2014

akashhhhh said:
I wonder if someone could give me their thoughts:

I had a Powercolor HD7870 Myst edition, which was a pretty unique variant. It performed closer to a 7950. It went bust and Powercolor is offering to replace it with a TurboDuo R9 280.

It looks like I obviously gain 1GB, but it also appears I lose a smidge in the GPU clock and I lose about 250mhz in the memory clock.

Any thoughts? Should I try to push for a refund instead?

The 280 is pretty much a 7950 with a different sticker. I'm not sure you'll see Difference

mkenyon · Sep 16, 2014

JetForceGemini said:
Well the cpu was an upgrade off another build lost I seen and I said what the hell might as well get a higher price cpu since I dropped the optical drive from the build

The Intel processor you got good enough for 2k at medium settings

AAnd also when it come to mods, what do they effect? I mean do mods take up more processor power or is it more storage on the hard drive???

Depends on the mod and the engine. VRAM on the video card is a big one though.

That proc does well.

The major thing about that suggested build is that it is very easily upgradable. A lot of the parts are selected around the idea that a year or two down the line, you can just drop in an i5 or i7 with a new video card and be totally set, without having to get a new case/RAM/motherboard or anything like that.

That's the other issue with the AM3+ platform, which is that it is end of line. The 8350, a processor that compares unfavorably (in games) to Intel processors released 4+ years ago is literally the best chip that you can buy on that platform. The $70 Intel proc, as you can see, keeps up with it fairly well.

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