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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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kennah

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Probably a stupid question but what's the best known thermal paste that reacts the best with the Hyper 212 Evo? I know thermal paste doesn't make a big difference but I figure why not just get the best paste that works with the heatsink.
The stuff that comes with it.

Honestly if you aren't delidding your CPU, nothing you do matters.
 

hunnies28

Member
Hello PC GAF, I've been considering breaking into the world of PC gaming for a while. I would like to know your opinion on this PC:
For entry level I guess.
I'm considering getting an extra 4 GB ram for it but have no idea as to what video card get for it.

Obviously I have no idea waht I'm talking about since this is my first Gaming PC.
Thanks in advance.
 

Tabasco

Member
I just got a Zowie FK1 in the mail and while I like how the mouse performs, I feel like it's too low for a palm grip user like myself and I'm not sure about the clicks of the buttons.

I may just stick with a Logitech mouse since I've been using an MX518 for years and I would probably want something similar.

or I could just get used to using a semi-claw grip which I don't think I can do.
 

Kevyt

Member
Dear PC-Gaf, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but...

I'm having trouble trying to overclock my i7-4790k. I have an MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Motherboard and I cannot change the CPU ratio:

MSI_SnapShot.png


It pretty much tells me that the only way I can adjust this is if the processor supports it (which it does since it's a k series cpu).

Is my motherboard faulty or my CPU?

This is my first time trying to overclock. Do I have to enable or disable something so that I can overclock my CPU?

Edit: I found out what my problem was... a very tiny detail that I missed... lol

Hello PC GAF, I've been considering breaking into the world of PC gaming for a while. I would like to know your opinion on this PC:
For entry level I guess.
I'm considering getting an extra 4 GB ram for it but have no idea as to what video card get for it.

Obviously I have no idea waht I'm talking about since this is my first Gaming PC.
Thanks in advance.

It depends on the kind of games you play... If you want to play the latest and greatest right now the best option would be a GTX 970 for $330-350. It'll let you play almost anything maxed out. But do you have a budget? Also you'll also need a better power supply unit (PSU). The case comes with a 450 watt psu so it will limit you to entry level cards such as a 260x or a GTX 750 Ti... and even then with an AMD processor I'm not sure if a 450 watt psu will be enough.

You tried using + or -? Still nothing?

Actually I just had to type in a number in the CPU ratio and hit enter... lol I kept clicking on it trying to increase the CPU ratio by just clicking on it. As you can see this is my first time... lol
 

JDHarbs

Member
I built a PC back in the spring and have been using my television as the display, but it hasn't worked out as well as I had thought. So now I'm looking into getting a monitor. I found this ASUS 22" for $139.99, but wanted to know if anyone had used it before or if I'm overlooking a better deal on another monitor.
 

Kevyt

Member
I got a 5.2 overclock on the i7 4790k with a water cooling solution (H100i) but the temperatures were in the 90's... Likewise, I rolled back to 4.8 as I thought it was the sweet spot as far as temperatures but when running Prime95 it would speed up to 5.2 again.

Edit: Disabled turbo boost.

Edit #2: Is task manager not reliable? I'm seeing my CPU speed going up to 5.67 Ghz when running Prime95

Edit #3: Rolling back to stock settings, temps are too high...
 

knitoe

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I got a 5.2 overclock on the i7 4790k with a water cooling solution (H100i) but the temperatures were in the 90's... Likewise, I rolled back to 4.8 as I thought it was the sweet spot as far as temperatures but when running Prime95 it would speed up to 5.2 again.

Edit: Disabled turbo boost.

Edit #2: Is task manager not reliable? I'm seeing my CPU speed going up to 5.67 Ghz when running Prime95

Edit #3: Rolling back to stock settings, temps are too high...
Use HWinfo and CPUZ.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
I got a 5.2 overclock on the i7 4790k with a water cooling solution (H100i) but the temperatures were in the 90's... Likewise, I rolled back to 4.8 as I thought it was the sweet spot as far as temperatures but when running Prime95 it would speed up to 5.2 again.

Edit: Disabled turbo boost.

Edit #2: Is task manager not reliable? I'm seeing my CPU speed going up to 5.67 Ghz when running Prime95

Edit #3: Rolling back to stock settings, temps are too high...
CPU-Z dude. Other tools in OP.
Yes
If anyone in here has a Maximus VII Hero can you tell me if you have any of these memory sticks in your mobo?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0080FFZ8E/?tag=neogaf0e-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E8ZOC/?tag=neogaf0e-20

None are on the approved memory list for the mobo. Would like to put one of those in there since they all match the case/mobo well. Damn QVL lists are always useless...ugh.
It's RAM it's all fine dude. Test lists are for like 100% supposed, but otherwise it's 99% supposed.
 

appaws

Banned
Hello PC GAF, I've been considering breaking into the world of PC gaming for a while. I would like to know your opinion on this PC:
For entry level I guess.
I'm considering getting an extra 4 GB ram for it but have no idea as to what video card get for it.

Obviously I have no idea waht I'm talking about since this is my first Gaming PC.
Thanks in advance.

You don't want that. Read the OP, fill out the form there.

This is a really good time to be a budget gaming PC builder.

Attention PC gaf. The NZXT Source 340 needs to enter our list of recommendations for budget ($69) cases. Very forward thinking at that price range. Here is a video review from OC3D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqRc64yqM8
 

nbthedude

Member
Hello PC GAF, I've been considering breaking into the world of PC gaming for a while. I would like to know your opinion on this PC:
For entry level I guess.
I'm considering getting an extra 4 GB ram for it but have no idea as to what video card get for it.

Obviously I have no idea waht I'm talking about since this is my first Gaming PC.
Thanks in advance.

If you can swing it and you really want one of those pre-put together bear bones this tiger-direct one is much better. It's $200 more but it's also a MUCH better processor (an Intel i5), twice the harddrive space, twice as much RAM, and bigger power supply to handle better videocards (550W)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9193763&CatId=333

However, if you are on a tighter budget, you really are better off picking out parts individually. There plenty of help here and in the OP to walk you through picking what you want and you'll end up with better parts. If you have a Microcenter around your area (or by where a relative lives), you can save significantly more even since they have fantastic deals on processors and motherboard combos.
 

xBladeM6x

Member
I do computer cleanings for people, and this person's computer that I'm fixing, has over 2,000 Malware in a Hyper Scan on Malwarebytes. There's popups and shit all over the desktop. Nothing I can't handle, but holy shit.

Edit: Bump that Malware number to 4,500+. I've never seen evil so numerous.

Edit 2: Total, there seems to be over 5,500+. I've managed to get rid of just about all of it, but Jesus. What the fuck were they doing to this thing?
 

knitoe

Member
Yes I used HWinfo but I don't use CPU-Z as it causes my system to crash (Windows 8.1) but I'm gonna do a fresh install of Windows and hopefully this won't be a problem.

HWinfo only is fine since it will tell you what the cpu speed is current, min and max. So, what does it say while running Prime95?
 

appaws

Banned
I do computer cleanings for people, and this person's computer that I'm fixing, has over 2,000 Malware in a Hyper Scan on Malwarebytes. There's popups and shit all over the desktop. Nothing I can't handle, but holy shit.

I got called in to help a friends dad who was having all kinds of problems like that. He was like 70 years old and clicked on all kinds of "grow your schlong" and "herbal viagra" type of shit. I mean in his mind the internet should be honest....like America trusted Walter Kronkite.
 

EGG

Neo Member
So I need to buy a USB WiFi dongle as I do not have access to ethernet for the next few months (and after that it's not guaranteed either). My build is nearly finished and this the last piece that I need to figure out.

So my question is are they more or less the same? Any specific recommendations? Thanks
Re: this

I've heard that powerline adopters are a possible solution?
 

tm24

Member
How is ordering from Tigerdirect? How are they with returns in case something is wrong? I can save a nice amount over newegg since no tax and free shoprunner shipping and a further 10% cash back through my credit card. It's really tempting
 

Hazaro

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@EGG Yeah you can give PowerLine a shot. In most modern places it should be ok, always can return if no go.
How is ordering from Tigerdirect? How are they with returns in case something is wrong? I can save a nice amount over newegg since no tax and free shoprunner shipping and a further 10% cash back through my credit card. It's really tempting
shit
terrible
you think that thats how they get you
dont do it

Buy Amazon
 

tm24

Member
@EGG Yeah you can give PowerLine a shot. In most modern places it should be ok, always can return if no go.

shit
terrible
you think that thats how they get you
dont do it

Buy Amazon
Alright, sticking with Amazon and newegg. Changed cases and realized that shop runner is still working for newegg despite being hidden behind newegg premier so the differences come out to be less than $20
 
Hey guys, so I got my system finally:

i7 5820K@4,3GHZ 1.250V
ASUS X99 Deluxe
DDR4@2133MHZ
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 970 SLI
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB OS
Samsung 840 Evo 1TB
4TB WD Black
Windows 8.1 Pro

I'm however having an issue, watching movies and doing benchmarks the system is fine, however when I play a game, it runs at a high fps and very smooth, then all of a sudden drops then back to smooth again.

It is very annoying, for example the first area in Shadow of Mordor everything max@1080P besides ultra textures I'm running 90-100FPS with the force alternate frame rendering 2.

What gets me is all of a sudden I start hitting 45-55FPS with a couple of orcs(led by a captain),however then I go to anther place with 3 times the amount of orcs(stronghold) and its smooth.

I don't know my PC doesn't seem to be perfoming the best, could it be an APP or some software conflict in Windows 8.1?

It seems to me there is quite a bit of bloatware with Pro that I have Installed, could it be that my cards are not running at full efficency?

Nevermind:
It is only Shadow of Mordor with its broken SLI and Black flag that did it, rest of the games like BF4 at max settings is running 120+FPS,fraps shows nothing falls below 140, so far on 64 Player map with explosions everywhere.(My fraps showing 180+ is glorious)
 

Ultimatum

Banned
I'm going to be building a new rig soon, can I reuse my power supply from my current rig? It's a 600W modular PSU by OCZ, about 5 years old, with almost 24/7 up time. I have no idea how much it would have degraded and if it's a good idea to use it for a new rig (i7 4790k and gtx 970).

Thanks!
 

Addnan

Member
I'm going to be building a new rig soon, can I reuse my power supply from my current rig? It's a 600W modular PSU by OCZ, about 5 years old, with almost 24/7 up time. I have no idea how much it would have degraded and if it's a good idea to use it for a new rig (i7 4790k and gtx 970).

Thanks!
It would probably work but I wouldn't recommend reusing such an old PSU for that rig.
 
I'm going to be building a new rig soon, can I reuse my power supply from my current rig? It's a 600W modular PSU by OCZ, about 5 years old, with almost 24/7 up time. I have no idea how much it would have degraded and if it's a good idea to use it for a new rig (i7 4790k and gtx 970).

Thanks!

If you're not having any issues with it, it should be perfectly fine.
 

b0bbyJ03

Member
does anyone in here have the EVGA ACX 1.0 970? if so did you try overclocking it? im thinking about attempting my first OC with this card but the reviews on this particular version are not that great so im hesitant. would appreciate some feedback.
 
My desktop that was a screamin' beast when I got it in 2009 really needs an upgrade. Here are the specs:

Intel Core I5CPU 750 @ 2.68 GHZ 2.66 GHZ

8 gigs of RAM, Windows 7 64

Radeon HD 5700

I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff, but I'm thinking the best value would be to buy a new card? I'm looking to spend between $ 300-400 max. What card would be a good suggestion? Do I really need more RAM?

Any advice is appreciated.

EDIT: I mainly use my PC for games. I'm a sucker for 60fps, even if I have to drop down the graphical settings. I play stuff like Divinity, and also multiplatform action games. I used to get those all on PC but now I'm finding that they're running on my PS4 as well as they are on PC. I wanna get my PC to the point where I can go back to getting multis on it and get 60fps whenever possible.

Quoting my specs for reference...

Gonna grab a GTX 970 in the next month hopefully. Are they hard to find? I read somewhere that they can be tricky to locate.

Anyways, in the meantime, how viable is it to drop resolution on my games to achieve 60fps? I always run my games at 1080 because my monitor supports it, but if I were to hit a lower resolution would I be able to get a significantly higher frame rate?
 
Overclock your 750. In some games, it won't hold you back. In others, it will. You'll have to fiddle around with each game to see what you need to do in order for you to achieve acceptable frame times.

Repost from 120Hz thread:

Damn, if it were that cheap in Canada I might bite.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
Hey guys, asked for help already before but I've got a preliminary plan for my rig here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/2EF6FENGOH/

Can anyone give me their thoughts? Anything that should be changed for any reason (whether in terms of value for money something is better or if I've overlooked something obvious).

I have 2 PSU and 2 sets of RAM on it as I'm not sure what the differences were so please advise on that. Also I'm not looking for a fancy case I hope the cheap one I picked is ok.
 

Ivieto

Banned
Hey guys, I have a 4 year old PC that I have been upgrading consistently, but it may have come time to upgrade MOBO/CPU/RAM, and I am kind of dreading spending a lot of money on a marginal upgrade. Currently I have:

i7-950 (OC to just under 4.0 GHz)
256 SSD + 3 TB HDD storage
p6x58d-e MOBO
24 GB of decent RAM
GTX 770 2GB.

And I use it pretty heavily for gaming, although I always limit it to 1080p60 or 1080p30, none of those fancy down sampling resolutions. Games like Mordor and Tomb Raider are running pretty good at High settings, without much chugging away from 60 fps.

Now, I know if I spent $400-$500 to get a new MOBO/CPU/Ram I would be getting a faster machine, but I am not confident this is bottle necking my current setup. I feel my bottleneck is my 2Gb GPU, which I wont change for at least another year or two.

So my question is, would a big expensive update be felt in performance or should I wait it out as much as I can until I feel it actually slowing down?
 

Addnan

Member
Hey guys, asked for help already before but I've got a preliminary plan for my rig here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/2EF6FENGOH/

Can anyone give me their thoughts? Anything that should be changed for any reason (whether in terms of value for money something is better or if I've overlooked something obvious).

I have 2 PSU and 2 sets of RAM on it as I'm not sure what the differences were so please advise on that. Also I'm not looking for a fancy case I hope the cheap one I picked is ok.
PSU is a bit dated now so would pick something else. The Seasonic G series, BeQuiet, EVGA G2, The high end Corsairs.

RAM, get the low profile stuff so the smaller ones. Everything else looks good. Not too sure about the case but that's more of a personal preference assuming it all fits!
 

mkenyon

Banned
What is a healthy temperature for a fan cooled i5 @ 3.4 ghz?
Depends. Haswell, Ivy, or Sandy?
Hey guys, I have a 4 year old PC that I have been upgrading consistently, but it may have come time to upgrade MOBO/CPU/RAM, and I am kind of dreading spending a lot of money on a marginal upgrade. Currently I have:

i7-950 (OC to just under 4.0 GHz)
256 SSD + 3 TB HDD storage
p6x58d-e MOBO
24 GB of decent RAM
GTX 770 2GB.

And I use it pretty heavily for gaming, although I always limit it to 1080p60 or 1080p30, none of those fancy down sampling resolutions. Games like Mordor and Tomb Raider are running pretty good at High settings, without much chugging away from 60 fps.

Now, I know if I spent $400-$500 to get a new MOBO/CPU/Ram I would be getting a faster machine, but I am not confident this is bottle necking my current setup. I feel my bottleneck is my 2Gb GPU, which I wont change for at least another year or two.

So my question is, would a big expensive update be felt in performance or should I wait it out as much as I can until I feel it actually slowing down?
Upgrade when it's not giving you the performance you want anymore.

Your CPU is a bottleneck in multiplayer games, Source, UE3, and some others, but not a significant one.

The 2GB limitation won't affect general frame rate. When that memory becomes an issue, you'll have a very significant slowdown for just a few seconds (or less), and then all is back to normal.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
PSU is a bit dated now so would pick something else. The Seasonic G series, BeQuiet, EVGA G2, The high end Corsairs.

RAM, get the low profile stuff so the smaller ones. Everything else looks good. Not too sure about the case but that's more of a personal preference assuming it all fits!

What should I be looking for in a PSU exactly? I admit I'm a little clueless on that.

Do you add up the wattage of every component in the rig or just take the highest? Just cos I note the GTX 970 is about 500W itself so I don't know if my choice of 650W was cutting it fine.
 

mkenyon

Banned
What should I be looking for in a PSU exactly? I admit I'm a little clueless on that.

Do you add up the wattage of every component in the rig or just take the highest? Just cos I note the GTX 970 is about 500W itself so I don't know if my choice of 650W was cutting it fine.
The GTX 970 pulls about 170W at full load.

Seasonic G Series, X Series
EVGA G2
Corsair RM/AX/AXi
Rosewill Hive
BeQuiet
 

ricki42

Member
Hey guys, asked for help already before but I've got a preliminary plan for my rig here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/2EF6FENGOH/

Can anyone give me their thoughts? Anything that should be changed for any reason (whether in terms of value for money something is better or if I've overlooked something obvious).

I have 2 PSU and 2 sets of RAM on it as I'm not sure what the differences were so please advise on that. Also I'm not looking for a fancy case I hope the cheap one I picked is ok.

If you are planning on overclocking (since you have the 4690k) you might look into getting a better CPU cooler than the stock one.
 

FloatOn

Member
I've been pointed to this thread by the good people over at the steamgaf thread and I want to pick your brains on my next move to upgrade as I am semi thirsty for the new wave of games and I don't want to melt my current build.

I currently have:

Phenom X 2
Radeon HD 6870
8gb ram

I'm not sure what type of motherboard I have. As I understand it now, intel/nvdia is the way to go now. So I'm fairly sure I have to get a new motherboard, new video card and new processor. If it's at all possible can I keep the hdd, ram and power supply? I would prefer not to build entirely from scratch. I'm also open to purchasing a new case, since I'm kind of tired of looking at the one I have now.

I'd like to spend no more than $500. I'm not even sure if such a thing is possible but I would appreciate the help.

edit:

Your Current Specs: Phenom X2 / 8gb ram / motherboard (unsure) / Radeon HD 6870 / power supply (unsure) / element G case / 1tb hdd
Budget: $400 - $500
Main Use: Gaming and media streaming
Monitor Resolution: 1080p television
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I would like to play the next wave of games as well as if not better than consoles (Evil Within, Shadow of Mordor, Alien Isolation)
Looking to reuse any parts?: 1 tb hdd, 8gb ram, power supply (unsure of make and model)
When will you build?: before the end of the year most likely
Will you be overclocking?: I never have but I'm open to it

I'm at work right now and this is what I remember off the top of my head. I built my current machine ~3 years ago. I will update more specifically later. Thanks again
 

Addnan

Member
I've been pointed to this thread by the good people over at the steamgaf thread and I want to pick your brains on my next move to upgrade as I am semi thirsty for the new wave of games and I don't want to melt my current build.

I currently have:

Phenom X 2
Radeon HD 6870
8gb ram

I'm not sure what type of motherboard I have. As I understand it now, intel/nvdia is the way to go now. So I'm fairly sure I have to get a new motherboard, new video card and new processor. If it's at all possible can I keep the hdd, ram and power supply? I would prefer not to build entirely from scratch. I'm also open to purchasing a new case, since I'm kind of tired of looking at the one I have now.

I'd like to spend no more than $500. I'm not even sure if such a thing is possible but I would appreciate the help.
See OP fill out that little table of questions. You can reuse parts if they are decent, sure.
 
I've been pointed to this thread by the good people over at the steamgaf thread and I want to pick your brains on my next move to upgrade as I am semi thirsty for the new wave of games and I don't want to melt my current build.

I currently have:

Phenom X 2
Radeon HD 6870
8gb ram

I'm not sure what type of motherboard I have. As I understand it now, intel/nvdia is the way to go now. So I'm fairly sure I have to get a new motherboard, new video card and new processor. If it's at all possible can I keep the hdd, ram and power supply? I would prefer not to build entirely from scratch. I'm also open to purchasing a new case, since I'm kind of tired of looking at the one I have now.

I'd like to spend no more than $500. I'm not even sure if such a thing is possible but I would appreciate the help.
What he said above me. They definitely have builds in your price range as you can see in OP.
 
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