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Not worth imo. Get the MSI Gamer 970 and run it at 1500/8000, will beat/match the 980.
Awesome, thanks allot! You just saved me a couple of bucks.
Not worth imo. Get the MSI Gamer 970 and run it at 1500/8000, will beat/match the 980.
Most of the parts look fine. Unless you have a specific need for a sound card there's not much reason to get one, as onboard sound has enough features to cover most use scenarios. Power supplies and memory can change price due to frequent short sales, might be worth checking daily or so for new deals. Speaking of the power supply..I'm also building a new PC for fun - part of my usual 18 month upgrade
after a week of research, im down to this setup - good choices, or have i missed on something - the 970s will be heavily overclocked, cant justify the price of the 980s over it in SLi
i7 - 4790K
Corsair Hydro H105 w/ Noctua NF-F12s
Corsair 850W 80+ Gold PSU
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Motherboard
MSI GTX 970 SLi
Samsung 500Gb EVO SSD
Kingston Hyper X 16Gb 1866 DDR3
Corsair 450D Case
All fans replaced with Noctuas (x2 NF-P14) + (x2 NF-P12)
Creative ZxR Soundcard
Korean Qnix IPS 27" OC @ 120Hz - 2560x1440
Thoughts?
It's not hard. I figure that the newer ones with a production date made in the last month should be already have the latest fix, otherwise you just have to download a file from Samsung, open it, click next a bunch of times and it'll be done. Probably best to update before you copy or install anything to the SSD. Or just get a MX100.are the ones sold at the moment already payched or you need to find and install the patch yourself?
I'm kinda of a noob,so the less work i have to do,the better
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
If your wife is using it for anything other than gaming, then barebone laptops aren't the solution. Depending on how your last laptops failed, it'd probably be easier if you went with a different brand.
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Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
Am I reading this wrong? Slower than a 290?!
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
Hmmm... When is this supposed to come out?
i saw monitors on the first post , so i'd like to ask
right now i'm considering new monitor, started with asus and i compared all the models in their site and finally reduced the list to these options:
VX248H for $200.63 after importing costs
VG248QE for $294.64 after importing costs
VN247H-P for $217.38 after importing costs
VS278Q-P for $293.66 after importing costs
i know it's not a break dealer, but all of them including speakers as i'm not ready to buy sound system anytime soon
as for acer, i found this model,
GN246HL Bbid for $270.19 after importing costs
it's without speaker but i like that it's 100M contrast ration compared to asus's 80M contrast ratio
and for benQ, in respect of this thread:
XL2411Z for $330.99 after importing costs
but isn't it more expensive for a 12M contrast ration compared to other's 80M-100M ratio ?
there're other options in acer , benQ and viewsonic but i didnt bother to search unless someone recommend me something
i dont want to pay premium , but i'm fine with these range of prices.
to be honest, 'FOR NOW', i dont think i'll get the full benefit of 1ms respond nor +60hz refreshing, but i already have an old LG 23' monitor with TN panel and 5ms respond if not slower
so to buy a new one it should beat the old one and keeps serving me for years, or else i'd rather save my bucks for much later time, maybe new models would come later on with newer features.
btw, my VGA is AMD R280x, so i'm out of luck with any 3D feature included cause it's for Nvidia , in general i don like this feature even if my VGA is supported
so what are your thoughts?
Cross-posting from the 970 thread.. still scratching my head:
Having some trouble diagnosing why I'm getting some sub-60 fps drops, as well as a 30 fps lock while playing WoW and watching a Twitch stream:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ps0b2d4de7.jpg
(This above link is a shot of playing WoW in the garrison while a Twitch video was streaming)
My CPU is a i7-930 OC'd to ~3.1 GHz with 6 GB of RAM. Both of these were first bought in July of 2010, which I've since replaced my old ATI HD 5850 with the EVGA GTX 970.
WoW was running ~50 fps in the screen-cap, but sometimes I've noticed it hard capping at 30fps randomly, then suddenly it will shift to 60 fps. Really strange. Maybe the hard drive is starting to wear down?? Or am I just being overly picky for the performance I am getting with what I am doing?
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WoW was running ~50 fps in the screen-cap, but sometimes I've noticed it hard capping at 30fps randomly, then suddenly it will shift to 60 fps. Really strange. Maybe the hard drive is starting to wear down?? Or am I just being overly picky for the performance I am getting with what I am doing?
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
For those of you who pay attention to cases like I do.....
....or for anyone doing a mid-range build, focused on silence or potential water cooling...
....it looks like the Fractal Define R5 is a winner!!! Very exciting! Modular drive cages and optical bays, good wire management room, great rad support, good looks.
Video Reviews:
Tiny Tom Logan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7FVSLNyJsw&list=UU_SN80_V2GymyCWM2oTYTeg
Hardware Canucks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRZIdbdcIiU&list=UUTzLRZUgelatKZ4nyIKcAbg
Linus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ZLKzqcUtM
i honestly cannot wait any longer. we need that leap already (or hopefully there is a leap).
i want that 980 but seriously new tech offerings are very enticing.
it isn't like there are so many games that will come out between now and q2.
and a 980 pretty much is an improved 780. next round of gpus are 20nm and 3d mem stacked.
First chart is performance, second is power consumption.
I think I'm going mad :lol it's the first one I'm having issue with. I see Captain Jack sitting below the 780 in it... :S
Alledgedly the performance of AMD's new flagship GPU.
That would be a huge improvement over the 290X. 30% more power using 82 fewer watts.
I thought this was 380X performance figures?
Nearly doubling the performance of a 280X with a 10% power reduction.
Credible?
I thought this was 380X performance figures?
Nearly doubling the performance of a 280X with a 10% power reduction.
Credible?
In my opinion you're looking way too hard in a segment where no model differentiates itself much. All but one of the displays are 6-bit TN-based panels, so pretty much the entry-level for colour reproduction and contrast. The Acer has a VA panel, so it should have better contrast than the others.
You can ignore "dynamic contrast" numbers, as it's nonsense and can't be used to measure anything useful. I recommend TFT Central for lots of useful info and trusted reviews if you want to be better informed.
Why are you buying a new monitor? What would you like to improve about the display you have?
Perhaps it's the vsync.
It's been quite a while since I played WoW, but I seem to remember having a similar issue. I remember flash videos would down-clock my vid card and cause something like that. Are you watching youtube, twitch, etc. while playing? If so, you can try disabling hardware acceleration on flash by right-clicking a video and going to settings. You have to reload any video pages for it to take effect.
Hi guys, I would like an opinion on my current rig:
CPU i5 2500k
R9 290 4Gb
Ram 8Gb DDR 3 1600mhz
MB: MSI Z77A-G43
Win 7 OS on SSD (Crucial M4)
PSU: 650W
I like to game at 1080p and trying to reach a minimum of 40fps in most games and trying to hit high or ultra settings. I assume my CPU or RAM is holding my system back and would like opinions if its worth me doing a minor upgrade?
RAM Should I purchase RAM and pick two more 4Gb sticks that run at DDR 3 2400mhz?
COOLER Or should I pick up a aftermarket air cooler for my CPU and overclock it to get more power out of it?
CPU Is it worthwhile for to upgrade to an i5 4690? Toms hardware CPU Gaming Hierarchy chart says its not worth it. This is not a minor upgrade and would require a new motherboard.
What do you mean by "1 6x2 cable"? Each GTX 980 should have two of these cables directly from the power supply plugged in. Do NOT use these power adapters that came with the video card.
Game performance depends on what games he's playing. Some games benefit more from stronger CPU, other games do better with a GPU upgrade. If I had to go with one or the other, I'd go with a GPU upgrade. Here's some direct comparison benchmarks and game tests between the two. The charts don't account for the Phenom being overclocked and the 8350 is at normal speed and isn't a black edition, but the differences are roughly that much.
How much money?
Has anyone found that an OC that is stable in Windows is unstable in Linux?
Kind of took me by surprise, I have a dual boot but haven't used Linux on my desktop in a while. Anyone have some clues?
Has anyone found that an OC that is stable in Windows is unstable in Linux?
Kind of took me by surprise, I have a dual boot but haven't used Linux on my desktop in a while. Anyone have some clues?
Hi guys
Would love some input on a build I'm looking at
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LLsYwP
Main Use: Gaming at 1080P (downsampling when I can) and Emulators. Would love to be able to lock the newest games at 1080P/60... I realize that might not be entirely realistic but I do have plans to SLI in the future.
I'm aware of the current states of games like AC Unity, FC4 etc. I follow almost all of the individual PC perf threads for new games so I know some current games are bringing even >$2K rigs to their knees.
Monitor: 1080P Panasonic Plasma
Deadline: Not one currently, will patiently wait for deals on the parts I want but I already have the Samsung SSD on the way and will be picking up the 4790K for ~$110 from the intel retail edge deal (5930K didn't seem worth another ~$130 for gaming?). Those are the only choices that are somewhat locked.
Overclocking: Maybe? (Yes) Never done it before, but will if it makes sense performance wise.
I've left off memory as I really am not picky I guess? I figured 16 GBs of whatever is reasonable perf/price. I've read that this has less impact than it used to comparing brand to brand?
Biggest caveat. I would like to do this (even SLI?) in an HTPC case as I want to put the whole rig in a TV stand. Really hoping no one has to crush that dream...
Currently moving off:
i7 940
HX620 PSU
GTX 780 SC w/ ACX
500GB WD Black
12GB DDR3
Thanks so much for any insight and advice you guys can offer. Truly appreciate that there's a resource like this available.
<3 GAF
That may work I have my memory clock set at +243. I have not tested yet with offset around 300 or so without lowering the clock speed to less than ~1300, so I got crashes those times.
I don't run Windows, but I have an overclocked 4790k and run Linux. I'm surprised it would make a difference, since the overclocking is done in the BIOS. Have you monitored the frequencies, voltages, and temperatures under Linux? Which linux distro are you using? Are you using intel_pstate? What scaling governor is set?
Definatly possible since Linux maybe interacting with the BIOS and affecting things like speedstep settings. But usually it means the OC wasnt stable anyways.
How have you tested for stability?
It seems like no matter what I do, if I go up even 2MHZ I start artifacting.
Is this a normal overclock? I get only 10,000 in 3D Mark's FireStrike.
You are crazy doing an SLI build for the living room, but it depends on how much noise you can tolerate and also how big the case can be.
I advise steam box type of machine using Mini ITX board and case like a Silverstone RVZ01 or Fractal Design Node 304.
You could consider Fractal Design Node 605 for an SLI build under the TV, depends on space.
Just so you have an idea, I do all of what you want to do with my Node 304 i7 3770 @ 4.2Ghz and GTX 970. 8Gb 2133Mhz cl10 ram, 630w Seasonic PSU. Emulation performance is amazing.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.92 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($348.99 @ Directron)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.14 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1432.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-26 11:59 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B 45.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.36 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($348.99 @ Directron)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1518.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-26 12:07 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($348.99 @ Directron)
Case: Fractal Design Node 605 HTPC Case ($149.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($137.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1615.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-26 12:06 EST-0500
Possible to add another GTX 970 for SLI.
Also its silly to chase Ubisoft games. You will overspend and see huge depreciation of component value for a few games. Its just not worth it.
Im getting about 55-60fps on my rig all Ultra settings with the nasty stutter ever so often. Similarly to WatchDogs, even if you had the entire compute power of the planet, it will still stutter such the nature of the engine. FC4 is literally the only game giving me this problem, its actually worse than WatchDogs in this regard.
Been about 3-4 years since I built my PC via this sub.
Time for a slight upgrade.
Looking to move my components into a smaller case (ordered the Fractal Design Node 304)
Currently inside a Fractal Define R3
Going to keep my i5 2500k / 8GB 1600Mhz Ripjaws
Could someone recommend a good GPU that will run GTA V at near or max settings? (at least 30 fps with the forthcoming IceEnhancer) that also fits in this case. Currently on a GTX 570.
I also currently have a 650W PSU. Will this need to be replaced?
Also in search of a mobo that will fit inside the mini case, is Hackintosh compatible, and has built in Wi-Fi.
Sorry for all the questions!
Is the LG 34UM95 worth the asking price? Currently price dropped to $809 on Amazon.
quick dumb question, but what (adapter?) do I need in order to plug a standard 3-pin 120mm fan directly into my PSU? I can't go into the motherboard. I realize the fan will run non-stop, but that's okay. Is there some type of 3-pin -> PCI-E adapter? I can't seem to find it. Thanks. so much.
Since you're moving from ATX to ITX, you'll need a new motherboard too. Not sure, but it might be a bit costly to get one that supports the 2500k (I really have no idea though) since its a bit older (but still a damn good CPU, especially if overclocked).
No one knows what it'll take to run GTA5 yet. Whats your budget? It's generally best just to get whatever the best thing you can afford is.
The power supply will be fine.