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[Smokey]

5820k is $299 at Microcenter

 

[Inferno313]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

NONONONONONONO... Sorry but Crucial is just garbage at anything but "Pro Grade" memory. That meaning they're originally a memory company and they suck at it. I hope you have that drive backed up...

 

[shiroryu]

Get a Z97 motherboard to OC that K CPU. The i5 is still the sweetspot at the minute over the i7. Games will eventually make use of more threads but as of now there isn't a huge gap.

The extra boost the i7 offers will be negated with an OC.

970 should be good for downsampling at 1080p. Should give those games some nice crisp IQ.

Difference between the 4690K and the 4670K is minimal really, get whichever is cheaper.

Unless you do video encoding, for instance. In which case definitely get the 4690K.

Thanks, guys. No video encoding, but I may go for the i7 anyway as insurance.

 

[The Llama]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

Your friend is very crazy.

 

[LilJoka]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

Funnily enough, an SSD is just memory... Inside it looks like RAM. Just different type of memory chips.

Hes completely wrong.

 

[Inferno313]

Your friend is very crazy.

That's what I thought. Good to have it confirmed.

 

[opticalmace]

5820k is $299 at Microcenter

Wow, you guys are sooo lucky. If it also has the mobo discount I would probably cave and buy one if I could.

 

[Addnan]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

Well you should have it backed up regardless of quality. 850 Pro can go boom just as likely.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

It was the best bet. Crucial has been making great SSDs.

Crucial M4 was great (sure, there is the 5200 hours bug where it works incorrectly, but that was fixed with a firmware update).

M500 was great.

M550 was pointless, but whatever, not a bad product.

And the MX100 is great again.

As far as I know they all have been very reliable. I have two of their SSDs in my PC right now, not a single problem with them.

 

[Zinthar]

Friend went off on me for using an MX100 in my build. However it's been awesome and the best drive I've had. Is my friend crazy or is Crucial not the best bet?

His exact quote:

I'd need more detail into exactly what his qualms are with Crucial, or Micron's 16nm 128GBit MLC NAND (paired with a Marvell controller), to be more specific. To my knowledge, it hasn't had any widespread reliability issues and it would probably be my top choice if I were doing a new build today.

 

[garath]

Amazon has a lighting deal on the Crucial M500 480gig for $159 right now. I just ordered it. Beats the rebates/promo code/selling farcry 4 crap with all the other deals. SSD here I come!

 

[JetForceGemini]

Upgrade soon from a:

Pentium g3258
GTX 750 ti
8 gigs of ram

To:

I7 4790k
Gtx 970
16 gigs of ram

Before anyone say it's a waste, I'm getting the i7 for 99 dollars

 

[kharma45]

Upgrade soon from a:

Pentium g3258
GTX 750 ti
8 gigs of ram

To:

I7 4790k
Gtx 970
16 gigs of ram

Before anyone say it's a waste, I'm getting the i7 for 99 dollars

Can't whack that.

 

[shiroryu]

Upgrade soon from a:

Pentium g3258
GTX 750 ti
8 gigs of ram

To:

I7 4790k
Gtx 970
16 gigs of ram

Before anyone say it's a waste, I'm getting the i7 for 99 dollars

so jealous

 

[kennah]

What're you planning to do with the Pentium?

 

[Telephoto999]

I haven't been following PC hardware very close... but does anyone know when some affordable native 8 core processors might start emerging from intel?

I am looking to build a new machine next year and was hoping I had some options. I want to be able to run mass VM's on it because I'll be going through some serious VMWare training during that time.

 

[The Llama]

I haven't been following PC hardware very close... but does anyone know when some affordable native 8 core processors might start emerging from intel?

I am looking to build a new machine next year and was hoping I had some options. I want to be able to run mass VM's on it because I'll be going through some serious VMWare training during that time.

>Intel
>Affordable

Good luck with that wait.

Spoiler

I'm kidding! Someone else probably knows, but I think their next consumer socket CPU's (the sequels to the 4xxx series) are going to have 8 cores.

 

[kennah]

I haven't been following PC hardware very close... but does anyone know when some affordable native 8 core processors might start emerging from intel?

I am looking to build a new machine next year and was hoping I had some options. I want to be able to run mass VM's on it because I'll be going through some serious VMWare training during that time.

The i7s are effectively 8 core. Or there is the top end on the X99 platform that is a true 8 core (behaves as a 16 core)

And $300 for any i7 is a hell of a deal. I paid that for a celeron back in the day. Thw performance you get for the dollar right now is incredible.

 

[Telephoto999]

The i7s are effectively 8 core. Or there is the top end on the X99 platform that is a true 8 core (behaves as a 16 core)

And $300 for any i7 is a hell of a deal. I paid that for a celeron back in the day. Thw performance you get for the dollar right now is incredible.

Basically, I am wanting a native 8 core that is around the pricepoint of the current 4K series.

 

[kennah]

Basically, I am wanting a native 8 core that is around the pricepoint of the current 4K series.

Why?

 

[Blackheim]

[Basic Desktop Questions]

Your Current Specs: N/A
Budget: $1000 / US
Main Use: 5: Video Editing/Transcoding
Monitor Resolution: 1080p should be sufficient
Applications: Adobe Premiere Pro/Transcoding software
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A
When will you build?: Soon, ~1 month or less
Will you be overclocking?: No

This will be a work desktop for video and DCP creation. Starting from zero.

Edit: Oops, give me a few...

You missed the second part of the sentence in the OP. Try creating your own build with the resources in the OP and then we'll critique it.

 

[opticalmace]

Almost new thread time. Excite.

[Basic Desktop Questions]

Your Current Specs: N/A
Budget: $1000 / US
Main Use: 5: Video Editing/Transcoding
Monitor Resolution: 1080p should be sufficient
Applications: Adobe Premiere Pro/Transcoding software
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A
When will you build?: Soon, ~1 month or less
Will you be overclocking?: No

This will be a work desktop for video and DCP creation. Starting from zero.

You missed the second part of the sentence in the OP. Try creating your own build with the resources in the OP and then we'll critique it.

 

[Telephoto999]

Why?

As I said before, I want a large upgrade over my current 2500k @ 4.8, but I also want to be able to run 10-15 VM's at once for some heavy VMWare training I will be going through in my professional life.

 

[SweetJohnnyCage]

CPU is still good.

You won't get PCIe 3.0 with a 2500K, it doesn't have the support in it. Doesn't matter anyway though.

A 980 in your rig will fly.

Damn I thought PCI-e was supported by Sandy. The 3770k is literally the exact same price as the 4790k at Microcenter. I'll hold out a little while longer and see how much a full mobo/cpu/gpu upgrade would cost me. Thanks for the info.

 

[kennah]

As I said before, I want a large upgrade over my current 2500k @ 4.8, but I also want to be able to run 10-15 VM's at once for some heavy VMWare training I will be going through in my professional life.

That's fair

Damn I thought PCI-e was supported by Sandy. The 3770k is literally the exact same price as the 4790k at Microcenter. I'll hold out a little while longer and see how much a full mobo/cpu/gpu upgrade would cost me. Thanks for the info.

You don't need it. Nothing saturates 2.0 yet. The card will work fine.

 

[kharma45]

Damn I thought PCI-e was supported by Sandy. The 3770k is literally the exact same price as the 4790k at Microcenter. I'll hold out a little while longer and see how much a full mobo/cpu/gpu upgrade would cost me. Thanks for the info.

2.0 vs 3.0 makes no difference for a single GPU.

 

[SweetJohnnyCage]

2.0 vs 3.0 makes no difference for a single GPU.

What's the difference. then, exactly?

 

[The Llama]

What's the difference. then, exactly?

3.0 provides more bandwidth. But nothing currently uses more bandwidth than 2.0 already provides.

 

[Felix Lighter]

A crucial M500 240GB drive for $73 is a good deal right? They are still considered good drives right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ8RM1A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[kennah]

Holy Shit yes

 

[Blackheim]

[Basic Desktop Questions]

Your Current Specs: N/A
Budget: $1000 / US
Main Use: 5: Video Editing/Transcoding
Monitor Resolution: 1080p should be sufficient
Applications: Adobe Premiere Pro/Transcoding software
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A
When will you build?: Soon, ~1 month or less
Will you be overclocking?: No

This will be a work desktop for video and DCP creation. Starting from zero.

Parts picker list

 

[Smokey]

We need a new home

 

[opticalmace]

I never noticed coil whine until people starting talking about it in the 970/980 thread.

Now my 6950 is annoying the hell out of me... very high-pitched and noticeable above my Phanteks fans. I'm guessing there's no way to do anything about it, right? I can even notice it when I move my mouse... ick.

edit: what the hell, it only has coil whine when I'm in Linux?! Nothing in Windows... weird.

 

[Gestahl]

I'd need more detail into exactly what his qualms are with Crucial, or Micron's 16nm 128GBit MLC NAND (paired with a Marvell controller), to be more specific. To my knowledge, it hasn't had any widespread reliability issues and it would probably be my top choice if I were doing a new build today.

It probably refers to one of Crucial's drives 3-4 years ago where its firmware would collapse in onto itself after a year of use, rebooting the computer constantly. It required a firmware update to fix and understandably pissed a lot of people off

 

[Thorgal]

Ineed some help guys .

My nephew came to me today because he was looking for a new PC.

Now he already knows he is not going to aim for the high end since his goal is to play World of Warcraft with all bells and whistles on at a resolution of 1080p and while he did not say it , i think he will want 60 fps most of the time .

his current budget is€ 700 but may perhaps up that a little .

While he is not planning on buying his computer till next year is there a build you can recommend for that budget or should he wait till next year to see what is out then ?

 

[opticalmace]

Ineed some help guys .

My nephew came to me today because he was looking for a new PC.

Now he already knows he is not going to aim for the high end since his goal is to play World of Warcraft with all bells and whistles on at a resolution of 1080p and while he did not say it , i think he will want 60 fps most of the time .

his current budget is€ 700 but may perhaps up that a little .

While he is not planning on buying his computer till next year is there a build you can recommend for that budget or should he wait till next year to see what is out then ?

If he's not building for several months it's not really worth your effort figuring out a build now... things will just change by then. Anyway, check out the builds in the OP, they're all good.

 

[Ashhong]

I've never had issues with them in the past... though it has been a few years.

I've spent over a thousand there in the past year. No problems

Upgraded my ram last night from 1600 to 1866. Pc kept rebooting and wouldn't work. Took me an hour to realize that it was my overclocked settings. Had to put it back to default before it started working...would adding new ram change what settings I should use for my cpu? I'm talking voltage, clock speed etc. Was just going to use the same settings as before

 

[ColonelSkills]

Hey, so, looking for a processor for a usage case scenario.

I want to know if I can get away with an i3 4130 for a secondary pc in a streaming scenario. I want to capture (using an internal card) and both broadcast and record. This PC would be the second PC in a streaming setup.

Valid or should I get a more capable CPU for this purpose?

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

OK guys first time building my PC, I have been reading this thread for a while and my approach was to wait for black Friday/cyber Monday and buy the pieces separately. No rush to buy all the pieces at once.

So I just bought my first piece, the Crucial M500 480GB for 159$ thanks to the poster a page ago informing us about the amazon lightning deal.

Next is the graphic card. I already know what I want, the GTX 970, but which type do I get?
Is this 339$ Gigabyte one as good as the others that goes for 399$ ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706

Shall I order it already?

 

[Eternia]

A crucial M500 240GB drive for $73 is a good deal right? They are still considered good drives right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ8RM1A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Sounds like a terrific price. The only big issue I recall is their warranty being "fair market value" for old drives that they have exhausted their stock. They would end up giving hilariously low credit to use on their store instead.

 

[ISOM]

A crucial M500 240GB drive for $73 is a good deal right? They are still considered good drives right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ8RM1A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

That's showing $100 for me.

 

[longdi]

Those looking for an affordable step-up from the CM H212, please consider Thermalright new offering.

http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/40/true-spirit-140-bw-rev.-a?c=9

USD55.

Single tower that wont overweight your motherboard and wont cover your RAM and PCIE slots.

Add another cheap* Thermalright TY14x fans, and it will perform within 2-3 degree of the much expensive and heavier Noctuas or the noisy leak possible Corsairs Hydros.

*but very good quality and good sound signature.
Thermalright used to be the top dog and it is nice to see them going at the 'value' market.

 

[Broadbandito]

SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100373-2L Radeon R9 280 3GB $185 after rebate
VS
PowerColor AXR9 285 2GBD5-TDHE Radeon R9 285 2GB $170 after rebate


Any advantages over the other? The 3gb is would be better for dual monitor set up correct?

 

[The Llama]

SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100373-2L Radeon R9 280 3GB $185 after rebate
VS
PowerColor AXR9 285 2GBD5-TDHE Radeon R9 285 2GB $170 after rebate


Any advantages over the other? The 3gb is would be better for dual monitor set up correct?

The 285 is better, juuuuuuust beating out the 280x. The VRAM difference could be significant though, especially with dual monitors. Not sure if that should outweigh the 285 just being a faster (and cheaper) card though.

 

[garath]

Standard operating procedure to update the firmware on the SSD before installing anything? Crucial M500 on the way. Just grabbed Win 8.1 as well so I'll be starting a complete reinstall when I get it.

 

[kharma45]

[Basic Desktop Questions]

Your Current Specs: N/A
Budget: $1000 / US
Main Use: 5: Video Editing/Transcoding
Monitor Resolution: 1080p should be sufficient
Applications: Adobe Premiere Pro/Transcoding software
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A
When will you build?: Soon, ~1 month or less
Will you be overclocking?: No

This will be a work desktop for video and DCP creation. Starting from zero.

Parts picker list

If you're not going to overclock you could get an Intel Xeon. It's essentially an i7 sans the iGPU. Would benefit you more for video encoding than the i5 would.

16GB of RAM is a must too for video encoding imo.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.94 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.19 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($130.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $884.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-01 13:16 EST-0500

$100 less than your last build so plenty of room to improve on things.

 

[Felix Lighter]

That's showing $100 for me.

It was $73 when I posted it but it is $105 now.

 

[Broadbandito]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.79 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 285 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.64 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $610.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-01 13:26 EST-0500


Ok I think this will be the final build for my friend with a $600ish budget. Any last second refinements?

The 285 is better, juuuuuuust beating out the 280x. The VRAM difference could be significant though, especially with dual monitors. Not sure if that should outweigh the 285 just being a faster (and cheaper) card though.

So he wants to dual monitor but not game on 2 screens. Is the r9 280 gonna be a better option then?

 

[Blackheim]

If you're not going to overclock you could get an Intel Xeon. It's essentially an i7 sans the iGPU. Would benefit you more for video encoding than the i5 would.

16GB of RAM is a must too for video encoding imo.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.94 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.19 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($130.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $884.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-01 13:16 EST-0500

$100 less than your last build so plenty of room to improve on things.

Thank you, I will run that by the people who hold the purse strings

 

[kharma45]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.79 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 285 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.64 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $610.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-01 13:26 EST-0500


Ok I think this will be the final build for my friend with a $600ish budget. Any last second refinements?

How does an i5 sound? Locked but with a cheap Z97 board he could upgrade to an OCable CPU down the line

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($164.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-01 13:41 EST-0500