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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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tarheel91

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Yeah, they've done a helluva job in smoothing out their longstanding issues. They just need to be more timely with Crossfire profiles, but even if you need to disable it, you still have a fucking 290. They're so beastly for the price.

Plus, doing crossfire over PCI-Express seems to be a step up over even bridged crossfire with new frame pacing drivers. I also have a pretty big backlog so as long as the drivers are there a month after release I don't particularly care about release day hiccups (playing through Tomb Raider right now).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review/4

Now if only Witcher 3 wasn't using proprietary bull shit. :(
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Sounds like you've really thought it out. I'm a huge fan of the 750 Ti myself. Want to grab one for my shitty Lenovo at work (that I've upgraded myself...)

Yeah, it's been on my mind for quite awhile. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger on it yet because student. Hopefully that will change in the coming months.

The 750 Ti + i5 (or used GPU + CPU) would be the "Budget, get it done, it works most places", and the 760 (or 800 series equiv) + 4790k would be the "Spend the extra money and do it well".

Only time will tell which option I'll be able to go with.
 

SHADES

Member
Yeah, it's been on my mind for quite awhile. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger on it yet because student. Hopefully that will change in the coming months.

The 750 Ti + i5 (or used GPU + CPU) would be the "Budget, get it done, it works most places", and the 760 (or 800 series equiv) + 4790k would be "Spend the extra money and do it well".

In regard to the 750 ti, I have the EVGA 750 ti SC 2GB and to be fair to the card apart from DayZ's alpha-ness it's handling everything I've thrown at it thus far with pretty high FPS at high settings, Skyrim,Sleeping dogs, Tomb Raider, Witcher 2 all 60FPS (monitor only 1050 tho)or there abouts.

Great little card tbh!
 

tarheel91

Member
Yeah, it's been on my mind for quite awhile. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger on it yet because student. Hopefully that will change in the coming months.

The 750 Ti + i5 (or used GPU + CPU) would be the "Budget, get it done, it works most places", and the 760 (or 800 series equiv) + 4790k would be the "Spend the extra money and do it well".

Only time will tell which option I'll be able to go with.

I feel like both of these builds overemphasize the CPU (assuming you're using it for gaming). 750Ti works much better with an i3 or non-K i5, and a 760 with a i5-4670k seems more reasonable to me. I see no reason to spend more on a CPU than a GPU for modern gaming. I also think Nvidia isn't very price competitive in this region (you can get a 280 for $200 vs. a 760 at $250), but there are more things to consider than price for a lot of people.
 
Hey guys! I'm looking into replacing the fans in my EVGA Hadron! Could anyone provide some pointers as to how exactly to disassemble the top of this case?

I'm installing a 4970k with a new cooler and would prefer to get it all done in one shot as this case is quite the PITA go work in!
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
In regard to the 750 ti, I have the EVGA 750 ti SC 2GB and to be fair to the card apart from DayZ's alpha-ness it's handling everything I've thrown at it thus far with pretty high FPS at high settings, Skyrim,Sleeping dogs, Tomb Raider, Witcher 2 all 60FPS (monitor only 1050 tho)or there abouts.

Great little card tbh!

I feel like both of these builds overemphasize the CPU (assuming you're using it for gaming). 750Ti works much better with an i3 or non-K i5, and a 760 with a i5-4670k seems more reasonable to me. I see no reason to spend more on a CPU than a GPU for modern gaming. I also think Nvidia isn't very price competitive in this region (you can get a 280 for $200 vs. a 760 at $250), but there are more things to consider than price for a lot of people.

Valid points. Glad to read some real world examples of the 750 Ti performing. I'll look into these options and keep my eye on them between now and when I end up building.

Like mkenyon mentioned the worrying part of a non-K i5 is that they are only slightly cheaper then the K version (~$20 diff) unless you drop down into the i5-4440 range. An i3 would drop that price down into budget territory, but I don't know much about their performance. A 4670K/4690K could be another option. This rig will be used for Unity development and modeling as well, so the extra CPU power could be handy.

The 750 Ti vs. 760 is a thing to consider. I would love to have the power sipping 750 Ti, but the 760 would allow the build to stretch it's legs further.

Decisions decisions. This is nearly as much fun as building a rig.
ok no it's not

Hey guys! I'm looking into replacing the fans in my EVGA Hadron! Could anyone provide some pointers as to how exactly to disassemble the top of this case?

I'm installing a 4970k with a new cooler and would prefer to get it all done in one shot as this case is quite the PITA go work in!

I believe there are a couple of screws on the back of the case at the top. Take those out and then slide the mesh cover to the rear and it should come off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3q14IqzQz8#t=154
 

tarheel91

Member
Valid points. Glad to read some real world examples of the 750 Ti performing. I'll look into these options and keep my eye on them between now and when I end up building.

Like mkenyon mentioned the worrying part of a non-K i5 is that they are only slightly cheaper then the K version (~$20 diff) unless you drop down into the i5-4440 range. An i3 would drop that price down into budget territory, but I don't know much about their performance. A 4670K/4690K could be another option. This rig will be used for Unity development and modeling as well, so the extra CPU power could be handy.

The 750 Ti vs. 760 is thing to consider. I would love to have the power sipping 750 Ti, but the 760 would allow the build to stretch it's legs further.

Decisions decisions. This is nearly as much fun as building a rig.
ok no it's not



I believe there are a couple of screws on the back of the case at the top. Take those out and then slide the mesh cover to the rear and it should come off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3q14IqzQz8#t=154

If you plan to upgrade in the future, a K series makes sense. Otherwise, it's kind of overkill for a 750Ti for gaming. Any specific reason for avoiding AMD? The 260X provides comparable performance for ~20% less, whereas the 265 provides significantly more performance at 750Ti pricing. You can even snag the occasional 270 for 750Ti pricing if you catch the occasional deal, and it absolutely demolishes it.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Is 270X good enough to start upgrading other parts?

Have 1080p gaming in mind.
Nah, I'd focus on a better GPU long before a CPU/memory upgrade. If you're already on a much older socket and looking to buy new RAM/CPU/Mobo anyway, that's a different (and more difficult) story.
 

lord quas

Member
Hi guys, I'm looking to buy a PC but I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been using Haz's PC build sheet in combination with ALTERNATE's PC builder to try and create a competent gaming PC < &#8364;1000.

Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
SAPPHIRE DUAL-X R9 270X 2GB OC with Boost
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Intel® Core&#8482; i5-4670K
Thermaltake Berlin W0393RE (630 watt)
Cooler Master Force 500
LG GH24NS
Sandisk Extreme II SDSSDXP-120G-G25, 120 GB SSD
Arctic F14 PWM
ASRock H87M Pro4
Western Digital Blue, 1 TB
Crucial 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

Again, I have no idea what I'm doing. I tried to copy as much as I could from Haz's sheet but had trouble finding certain items. This will cost me around &#8364;930 including Windows 8. Is it worth it or should I be ashamed of myself/change it/pay a bit more for better specs?
 

SHADES

Member
Valid points. Glad to read some real world examples of the 750 Ti performing. I'll look into these options and keep my eye on them between now and when I end up building.

Like mkenyon mentioned the worrying part of a non-K i5 is that they are only slightly cheaper then the K version (~$20 diff) unless you drop down into the i5-4440 range. An i3 would drop that price down into budget territory, but I don't know much about their performance. A 4670K/4690K could be another option. This rig will be used for Unity development and modeling as well, so the extra CPU power could be handy.

The 750 Ti vs. 760 is a thing to consider. I would love to have the power sipping 750 Ti, but the 760 would allow the build to stretch it's legs further.

Decisions decisions. This is nearly as much fun as building a rig.
ok no it's not



I believe there are a couple of screws on the back of the case at the top. Take those out and then slide the mesh cover to the rear and it should come off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3q14IqzQz8#t=154

I run my GTX 750 ti SC with a i7 4770, mainly because I spent most of my budget towards the cpu with the intent to purchase a "big daddy" GPU once the GTX 800 series launches. From my stand point it runs really well with the i7.
 

Nipo

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Hi guys, I'm looking to buy a PC but I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been using Haz's PC build sheet in combination with ALTERNATE's PC builder to try and create a competent gaming PC < €1000.

Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
SAPPHIRE DUAL-X R9 270X 2GB OC with Boost
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Intel® Core™ i5-4670K
Thermaltake Berlin W0393RE (630 watt)
Cooler Master Force 500
LG GH24NS
Sandisk Extreme II SDSSDXP-120G-G25, 120 GB SSD
Arctic F14 PWM
ASRock H87M Pro4
Western Digital Blue, 1 TB
Crucial 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

Again, I have no idea what I'm doing. I tried to copy as much as I could from Haz's sheet but had trouble finding certain items. This will cost me around €930 including Windows 8. Is it worth it or should I be ashamed of myself/change it/pay a bit more for better specs?

I'm new to this myself but check out /r/softwareswap for windows. You can pick up a copy of 8.1 for about $8 that will free up some money so you can upgraded parts.
 

Drake

Member
Do new CPU's tend to sell out like video cards do? I was going to order my new system tonight, but I'm a little hesitant in case the 4790k sells out on NewEgg.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Hi guys, I'm looking to buy a PC but I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been using Haz's PC build sheet in combination with ALTERNATE's PC builder to try and create a competent gaming PC < &#8364;1000.

Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
SAPPHIRE DUAL-X R9 270X 2GB OC with Boost
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Intel® Core&#8482; i5-4670K
Thermaltake Berlin W0393RE (630 watt)
Cooler Master Force 500
LG GH24NS
Sandisk Extreme II SDSSDXP-120G-G25, 120 GB SSD
Arctic F14 PWM
ASRock H87M Pro4
Western Digital Blue, 1 TB
Crucial 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

Again, I have no idea what I'm doing. I tried to copy as much as I could from Haz's sheet but had trouble finding certain items. This will cost me around &#8364;930 including Windows 8. Is it worth it or should I be ashamed of myself/change it/pay a bit more for better specs?
Here's something a bit better:

cbBbHG4.png


Only thing I'd play around with on that is the memory and GPU.

The rest is all top-notch stuff.

*edit*

I'm having trouble getting the Germany PCPartpicker to work, so I can't double check prices. Chances are it's much less expensive. Check out the prices on Caseking.de
Do new CPU's tend to sell out like video cards do? I was going to order my new system tonight, but I'm a little hesitant in case the 4790k sells out on NewEgg.
Not typically, no.
 

lord quas

Member
Here's something a bit better:

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Only thing I'd play around with on that is the memory and GPU.

The rest is all top-notch stuff.

*edit*

I'm having trouble getting the Germany PCPartpicker to work, so I can't double check prices. Chances are it's much less expensive. Check out the prices on Caseking.de

Not typically, no.

Thanks for the help! Parts seem to be way more expensive on ALTERNATE's Dutch site though -- it'll cost me around €1000. That was my budget though and if it is that much better, I guess I'll just have to cough it up ;-).
 

Drake

Member
Ok fellas, here it is. I went all out in this one (except for the HDD). I just got everything from newegg. I don't feel like dealing with multiple suppliers.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K $339.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H $139.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128710

Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 780 Superclocked 3GB $519.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB $164.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB $57.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 with Window $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021

CPU fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

OS: Windows 8.1 $99.99

CD/DVD drive : SAMSUNG DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266

Total: $1,609.21
 

Mohasus

Member
What is the difference between red and brown switches?

I'm almost buying a quickfire tk brown (can't find red where I live). Main uses: dota 2 and typing.
 

Smokey

Member
***PSA***

Mkenyon
Ricohetguro
Piratethingy
SparkleMotion
Noren
Old Gimlet Eyes

I need yall to be on stand by for the reserved 4790k's at Microcenter. The site is saying they are available now, however I am going to check for myself. It does say 1 per household, but I am going to look into this. Will check back in.

***PSA***
 

Ettie

Member
Is there anywhere that has a general expected state of pc hardware posted? Like, what to expect in the next 1-3 years out of CPU, GPU, and SSD/HDD performance?
 
Is there anywhere that has a general expected state of pc hardware posted? Like, what to expect in the next 1-3 years out of CPU, GPU, and SSD/HDD performance?

3 years would be 2017 which is a long time in tech. I'd say affordable 8 core Intels, DDR4, Pascal GPUs.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Is there anywhere that has a general expected state of pc hardware posted? Like, what to expect in the next 1-3 years out of CPU, GPU, and SSD/HDD performance?
CPU: Shit. 15% performance increase over 3 Years. THANKS INTEL.
GPU: Good. Shift to 20/22nm. Probably a nice 60-100% jump depending on how aggressive they go after power efficiency and die size limits. Good 30%+ bump next year. Hopefully.
HDD: Who cares MORE SIZE
SSD: M.2 is new hotness, consumer drives probably will still be focused around 256GB models that saturated SATA3 or around 500MB/s which is plenty.
What is the difference between red and brown switches?

I'm almost buying a quickfire tk brown (can't find red where I live). Main uses: dota 2 and typing.
[KEYBOARDS]

Mechanical switches are referred to Cherry MX switches. MX Brown = Quiet tactile, MX Blue = loud tactile, MX Black = stiff linear, MX Red = soft linear. Cooler Master University.
 

Arulan

Member
mkenyon, this is from a recent mouse thread but it died off and I don't believe you had a chance to reply.

Bolded is objectively wrong.

Most accurate mice right now are the Steelseries Rival, Corsair M45, Mionix Avior, and Logitech Proteus.

If you are at your PC often, it's definitely worth finding something that is really comfortable.

I haven't looked too much into mice since a little over a year, and these appear to be somewhat recent. What advantages do they offer over the G400 (Angle Snapping Off)? I'm mostly interested in sensor differences, overall build quality, and optimal tracking at 400-800 CPI.

I also recently came across these stability tests across several gaming mice, good information.

http://utmalesoldiers.blogspot.com/2014/01/blog-post_14.html
 

Smokey

Member
***PSA***

Mkenyon
Ricohetguro
Piratethingy
SparkleMotion
Noren
Old Gimlet Eyes

I need yall to be on stand by for the reserved 4790k's at Microcenter. The site is saying they are available now, however I am going to check for myself. It does say 1 per household, but I am going to look into this. Will check back in.

***PSA***


Ok false alarm
 

Mrbob

Member
Ok fellas, here it is. I went all out in this one (except for the HDD). I just got everything from newegg. I don't feel like dealing with multiple suppliers.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K $339.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H $139.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128710

Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 780 Superclocked 3GB $519.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB $164.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB $57.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 with Window $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021

CPU fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

OS: Windows 8.1 $99.99

CD/DVD drive : SAMSUNG DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266

Total: $1,609.21

Nice build, one recommendation. If you are going all out spend an extra 10 dollars on this 780 instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130951&cm_re=evga_780-_-14-130-951-_-Product

Has extra power phases and a higher power target which means in theory it should overclock better. Nothing is guaranteed though. I have that card in my PC and can hit 1100 mhz on the core stable. I can go to 1150 but then I get the occasional hang up.

512GB mx100 or 500GB 840 Evo? Price difference is about 30 euros.

Check this out:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-512gb-review

The 512GB MX100 performs really well. Especially for the price. Main reason I went for it instead the Evo, though both will be fine.
 
Most coolers will be fine getting you to your realistic OC limit of 4.5-4.8. If you want the H100i because reasons, then by all means.

The AX750 is in a weird spot, because it's too much for your single GPU, but not nearly enough for two of them. I'd go down to a nice 650W unit. Do you want the AX because of single braided cables? If not, I'd suggest something like the Seasonic G series 650, as they're very similar units.

What features do you want on a motherboard? The Gigabyte UD3H is a great board that will give you a no-nonsense build without a bunch of stuff you don't need. So are some of the ASUS Z97 boards in the same price range ($140-170ish).


No idea how that will impact prices.

Yeah the h100i is basically just cause reasons. I want a nice, clean looking cooler that will look good in my case, so more aesthetics reasons than anything. Might switch to an arctic cooler, I have one of those on my current processor and it has done a great job for years, but I also don't want to be looking into the window of my new case and see a massive CPU cooler.

The AX750 was because I saw another poster on GAF with one and red cabling and it looked awesome, so again, aesthetic reasons :p. I also like how it is fully modular, that is a must for me and the new build.

As far as motherboards go, no particular features that I am looking for. I just want one that looks good, will last a long time and not give me any issues when it comes to overclocking my cpu. I did check out the gigabyte model you recommended and I have no problem getting one, just not sure if it is the one I really want. I currently have a gigabyte mobo in my current PC and it has been great.

I really appreciate you taking the time to critique my upcoming build. I will take your feedback and recommendations into consideration and see what will work best. All said, I cannot wait to get my new machine built and running, it is going to be awesome!

Ok false alarm

No worries! I have my paypal at the ready so just let me know when you need the funds! Really appreciate you doing this. Any chance they do get released earlier than originally thought?
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Hi PC-GAF. Looking to just get a new graphics card, but I decided to give all of my PC information for context anyways.

Current Specs: Core 2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield / 8GB DDR2 / Dell 0M017G / Radeon HD 5450 1GB 650MHz / MiOS KY-500ATX 500W PSU / Dell Studio 540 Case / 640GB HDD + 3TB External HDD
Budget: ~$200, see reusing parts below.
Main Use: 1. Emulation 2. Gaming 3. Photoshop work 4. Light Gaming 5. General Usage
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 (Sony SDM-P234, big ghastly looking thing)
Apps that I must run: Photoshop, Garden Warfare, Deus Ex: HR. I'm fine with 30FPS, and I don't care for PhysX, SueprSampling, etc.
Reusing parts: Yeah, I'm pretty much just looking to replace my graphics card here and just want to make sure there isn't a bottleneck when it comes to my mobo/CPU etc.
When will you build: Any time in the next month.
Will you be overclocking? Not really looking to do anything with my CPU.

I'm in Canada BTW. Not really coming in here looking for help blind, but I'm mainly wondering if:

A) The rest of my PC is ready for an implanted graphics card to last me the next few years in terms of running games and handling image illustration using a drawing tablet or I need to upgrade some other part of the PC (worried about the CPU and maybe case size here)

and

B) How I should go about buying a graphics card? What specs do I look at? What is the difference between buying an ASUS 270X and an MSi one? Is it significant enough to pay the $10-30 difference? I've always been confused by there being a shitload of manufacturers and slightly varying specs but reviews all being for essentially the same model of card.

Pretty much, my 5450 is really starting to show it's age now that I'm actually trying to be productive with it, and I figured that I could also take this opportunity to get me a graphics card that will let me run things at least at minimum for the next few years (I don't really care for things being pretty, and only for certain games do I care for 60FPS i.e. fighting). I've also had a lot of trouble with my 5450 resetting my resolution or crashing a lot, and I'm not sure if that's Catalyst fucking with me or the card, but it's made me aversive to going with ATI again. That said, my card is an old fart and my untrained eye says the 270X is the best option. Is that the case? Are there comparable nVidia cards? It seems like nVidia's closest options (750 TI and 760) are $50 down and up in price, and at least comparing them on GPU boss it seems like the 270X has a pretty significant jump on the 750 TI.
 

maneil99

Member
How much different is it maintaining a SSD vs HDD, thinking of picking one up with my Futureshop gift card once FS adds them to their site (MX100).
 

maneil99

Member
Got home with my i7-4790K earlier today. Put it in my machine and look at this.



What in the FUCK is going on with these temps? Everything stock, no OC.

Welcome to haswell? :p. Try resetting the cooler, are you using the stock cooler or aftermarket?

Off topic, did the 4790k's live up to the OCing hype? It seemed Intel was using LN2 and labeling it 'Air' because it had a radiator during their contest.
 
That was 5 minutes into a prime95 stress test. Using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Idles around 35°c

Everything's plugged in. If I reseat the cooler and I still pull down temps this high is it time for me to trek back to Micro Center and return this piece of shit?
 

maneil99

Member
That was 5 minutes into a prime95 stress test. Using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Idles around 35°c

Everything's plugged in. If I reseat the cooler and I still pull down temps this high is it time for me to trek back to Micro Center and return this piece of shit?

It can't be an issue with the CPU, it's either not seated right or an issue with the cooler/TIM. Remember to remove and reapply the TIM if you reseat it
 

M3z_

Member
That was 5 minutes into a prime95 stress test. Using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Idles around 35°c

Everything's plugged in. If I reseat the cooler and I still pull down temps this high is it time for me to trek back to Micro Center and return this piece of shit?

Got home with my i7-4790K earlier today. Put it in my machine and look at this.



What in the FUCK is going on with these temps? Everything stock, no OC.


You are using a 212+ with a core voltage at almost 1.4. I'm not surprised at all, Sandy Bridge would do the same. You have to remember that the 4790k overclocks to 4.4ghz straight out of the box and the 212+ is not a high end cooler by any means. Set your voltage at 1.25 and see what clock you can keep stable and the temps.
 

dawid

Member
Got home with my i7-4790K earlier today. Put it in my machine and look at this.



What in the FUCK is going on with these temps? Everything stock, no OC.

The voltage-setting is by default set to Adaptive in the bios. As you can see the CPU is getting fed almost 1.4V when running Prime AVX-instructions. 1.4V is alot and can damage your hardware. You should be happy not to have had the temps rush above 100+C.

Never run prime with adaptive voltage-settings unless you know and have adjusted the limit("roof") of the voltage it will result in.

Regular usage would not result in such high voltage or temps though.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
If you plan to upgrade in the future, a K series makes sense. Otherwise, it's kind of overkill for a 750Ti for gaming. Any specific reason for avoiding AMD? The 260X provides comparable performance for ~20% less, whereas the 265 provides significantly more performance at 750Ti pricing. You can even snag the occasional 270 for 750Ti pricing if you catch the occasional deal, and it absolutely demolishes it.

Personal preferance really. I enjoy the aesthetic look of the EVGA coolers. If there was a non-windowed version of the Hadron I wouldn't care as much.
The power consumptions of the Nvidia cards seem to be lower as well, if only slightly. That wouldn't matter much in the long run, just something I noticed while searching.
I was shocked when I saw the prices of the AMD cards now though. The last time I looked into them the 270 was the same price as a 760.

I run my GTX 750 ti SC with a i7 4770, mainly because I spent most of my budget towards the cpu with the intent to purchase a "big daddy" GPU once the GTX 800 series launches. From my stand point it runs really well with the i7.

Good to know. Hopefully there will be some more info about the 800 series before I build. It would be nice to start out there instead of the eventual upgrade in the future.
 

ref

Member
So custom water cooling folks, how quickly do EK, XSPC, etc get waterblocks/backplates out for newly released cards?

I'm waiting for the 800 series to build my first fully water cooled rig and want to get two 880's as soon as they are released, but obviously if I'm water cooling I'd like to get the waterblocks right away.
 
Advice on a good PSU for use with a 290x? Having trouble sifting through what I need and finding the suggested PSU on the suggested builds.
 

SLV

Member
I7 4790 k, together with a Asus sabertooth Z97 mark 2, should be fine right? Seams like a decent mid ranged atx board at 150eur or should I get something else? I prefer Asus and atx. So I can also oc later if need be.
I am just undecided on the board, as the cpu showed up as available in Latvia this morning and I have been without a pc since beginning June.
 
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