"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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Nothing, I linked the wrong post. Only the first link is useful, sorry!

no problem man, that's for that link - what a relief !

btw some guy said this: "Has anyone had any success overclocking memory on this board? seems to be limited to the default 1333MHz."

does this mean 1600Mhz RAM wont work on this board ? :(
 
no problem man, that's for that link - what a relief !

btw some guy said this: "Has anyone had any success overclocking memory on this board? seems to be limited to the default 1333MHz."

does this mean 1600Mhz RAM wont work on this board ? :(

1600MHz RAM will just run at 1333MHz if the board can't get it to run. Would be surprised if it couldn't, but even if it can't, it won't make much of a difference.
 
My PC should be up and running tomorrow!

My new 780 ti sc arrived, and with the replacement Z87-Pro mobo and Essence STX II sound card from amazon.

Tomorrow the components shipped back from corsair will arrive (4770K, some ram and psu) and instead of the water pump, which I'll be selling, a Noctua NH-D15 cpu fan should come too.

Nice and safe.

Can't fucking wait >.< !
 
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good set of headphones for gaming? I don't need a Mic, I got that covered. I'd like to keep it under $150 but I'll go up to $200 if it's really worth it.
 
Holy crap, I must have misread your post. I was thinking you were saying you could get mobo/proc combos for $200. Ignore my post if you can get a prebuilt for that kind of cash. Just about anything will be able to do browsing and video playback.

So were you wanting to build a whole machine? Keep the proc?

Either build on top of my machine (replace parts) or build a new one. I am looking to see if I can squeeze what I currently have in a smaller box.
 
Counter to what Smokey is saying, I don't think we're likely to see a substantial decrease in price, especially looking at 1440p or larger panels.

$800 for a 1440p 144Hz panel with a G-Sync kit seems totally reasonable to me. I mean, a quality 1080p 144Hz panel is $300. A quality 1440p 60Hz panel is $500. G-Sync kits are $200. $250 monitors with the kits installed are $500.

I disagree, I think we'll see a decent decrease in price. The problem is I think it'll happen over ~5 years. I remember like 8 years ago the cheapest 24" 1080p IPS panels were ~$400 (and there were fears they would never really catch on and TN would takeover, heh). Now they're regularly under $200. I could see high quality 1440p panels diving in price too, but it's gonna take a while.

Plus there's absolutely no way nVidia will be able to keep selling G-Sync kits for $200 once FreeSync is made available.
 
Freesync is not an equivalent technology to G-Sync. It's inferior in almost every way outside of the frame pacing. But word is that they're focusing on 4K panels and other 60Hz business at first. That right there reduces a lot of the appeal that it has. Most of the reason why folks are so wowed by G-Sync is that not only is it matching frames with refresh, but it's happening above 60Hz.
 
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Freesync is not an equivalent technology to G-Sync. It's inferior in almost every way outside of the frame pacing. But word is that they're focusing on 4K panels and other 60Hz business at first. That right there reduces a lot of the appeal that it has. Most of the reason why folks are so wowed by G-Sync is that not only is it matching frames with refresh, but it's happening above 60Hz.

How do you know? Is there a review out already?
 
Freesync is not an equivalent technology to G-Sync. It's inferior in almost every way outside of the frame pacing. But word is that they're focusing on 4K panels and other 60Hz business at first. That right there reduces a lot of the appeal that it has. Most of the reason why folks are so wowed by G-Sync is that not only is it matching frames with refresh, but it's happening above 60Hz.

Could you explain this a little more? I don't really remember reading anything about G-Sync being better, and I'm googling around now and can't find anything.

Regardless, I stand by my point. There's no way nVidia doesn't drop the price of G-Sync modules for monitor manufacturers once FreeSync is available to consumers. They obviously won't make it free or anything, but they'll lower the price.
 
mmm interesting, but the flip side is that this is a TN panel, so the picture quality is worse for the sake of faster response time?

I just went from a VA panel 1080p monitor to that BenQ 144Hz monitor, and FWIW its definitely worth it if you're gaming. Yeah, it being a TN panel does suck for some things (I notice it most when I'm trying to read text on websites), but for gaming and multimedia its fine. Once you go 144Hz, you'll never go back.
 
I just went from a VA panel 1080p monitor to that BenQ 144Hz monitor, and FWIW its definitely worth it if you're gaming. Yeah, it being a TN panel does suck for some things (I notice it most when I'm trying to read text on websites), but for gaming and multimedia its fine. Once you go 144Hz, you'll never go back.

Now, in terms of gaming, are you talking more from a competitive standpoint, or even single player visual/performance experience?
 
Now, in terms of gaming, are you talking more from a competitive standpoint, or even single player visual experience?

I'm pretty terrible at video games so believe me when I say you'll notice it in more than just competitive gaming haha. The difference is arguably most noticeable in side scrollers, where it feels almost like you're playing on a CRT in terms of the smoothness and clarity of the background as you move.
 
How do you know? Is there a review out already?
Could you explain this a little more? I don't really remember reading anything about G-Sync being better, and I'm googling around now and can't find anything.

Regardless, I stand by my point. There's no way nVidia doesn't drop the price of G-Sync modules for monitor manufacturers once FreeSync is available to consumers. They obviously won't make it free or anything, but they'll lower the price.
1) No ULMB on Freesync. This is one of the major appeals to G-Sync. The huge issue with lightboost and other solutions is that they take the bad TN colors and makes it even worse. ULMB not only reduces this affect, but gives you the ability to actually change colors, which is something that most other high refresh rate monitors have not done.

2) High refresh rate monitors - there's no indication this is the direction Freesync is going. Almost all of their demos have been on 60Hz panels. I'll admit that we're going to have to wait and see on this one to be sure, but I'm most certainly not holding my breath. My 290 would be happy if they did end up going that route.

3) Monitors for G-Sync have been specifically calibrated for the technology, offering a complete package that not only offers just the technology, but a monitor that is extremely targeted towards gamers in terms of features. Crosshair overlay on the RoG Swift springs to mind immediately.

However, from what I understand, the OEM price on the chip used in the G-Sync module is astronomical. I wish I could find the BlurBusters thread where the person posted the price sheet, but I believe it was $800 or $900 just for the chip. Yeah, of course NVIDIA isn't paying that, but it does seem likely they're already selling the modules at a loss.

Sure, 5 years down the line, we'll see a decrease in prices. A year or two though? Not likely.
 
1) No ULMB on Freesync. This is one of the major appeals to G-Sync. The huge issue with lightboost and other solutions is that they take the bad TN colors and makes it even worse. ULMB not only reduces this affect, but gives you the ability to actually change colors, which is something that most other high refresh rate monitors have not done.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it currently impossible to actually use ULMB and G-sync at the same time?

2) High refresh rate monitors - there's no indication this is the direction Freesync is going. Almost all of their demos have been on 60Hz panels. I'll admit that we're going to have to wait and see on this one to be sure, but I'm most certainly not holding my breath. My 290 would be happy if they did end up going that route.

3) Monitors for G-Sync have been specifically calibrated for the technology, offering a complete package that not only offers just the technology, but a monitor that is extremely targeted towards gamers in terms of features. Crosshair overlay on the RoG Swift springs to mind immediately.

I honestly don't see how any of these are related to G-sync vs Free-sync (or more properly, Adaptive-sync). These three things are all dependent on monitor manufacturers, as far as I can tell.
 
So finally put my order in for a 5930K and 16GB Corsair LPX DDR4 memory... after basically what has felt like months going back and forth in my mind about PC builds.

Had been contemplating using the NCASE M1 finally for Impact VII build but would be pretty much without a GPU till the 8 series comes out (have 2 Asus 670 DC2 GPUs at the moment that won't fit in the case) and won't have enough room for the storage drives I've got in my PC currently.

So now to see what the prices on the motherboards are like here in Australia, as they are starting to trickle out and only just after ordering the CPU and RAM did I see the ROG Extreme listed online..
 
Something is likely loose, RAM or a power cable to the mobo...?

Okay it randomly turned on and it started smoking I'm gonna unplug and bring up to a computer shop so they can see what is up. This is a brand new computer build that I had just turned on yesterday after RMA the powersupply and Motherboard.
 
Okay it randomly turned on and it started smoking I'm gonna unplug and bring up to a computer shop so they can see what is up. This is a brand new computer build that I had just turned on yesterday after RMA the powersupply and Motherboard.

Wow...sounds like PSU or possibly mobo might be bust. Sucks :/

Make sure there isn't a loose screw short-circuiting things (touching the mobo) before you take it in...

Out of interest, what company did the RMA?
 
Wow...sounds like PSU or possibly mobo might be bust. Sucks :/

Make sure there isn't a loose screw short-circuiting things (touching the mobo) before you take it in...

Out of interest, what company did the RMA?

Biostarr. I will check for any loose screws I just hope I won't have to get replacement parts again...
 
Biostarr. I will check for any loose screws I just hope I won't have to get replacement parts again...

If the PSU smoked it...chances are you'll need a new one... :(


Might want to buy a surge protector if you haven't got one already...just to rule things out.
 
Just ordered my Steelseries Rival mouse, Apex RAW keyboard and an extra fan, and ordering the Coolermaster V650 tomorrow. My mound of stuff is slowly getting bigger..
 
My PC should be up and running tomorrow!

My new 780 ti sc arrived, and with the replacement Z87-Pro mobo and Essence STX II sound card from amazon.

Tomorrow the components shipped back from corsair will arrive (4770K, some ram and psu) and instead of the water pump, which I'll be selling, a Noctua NH-D15 cpu fan should come too.

Nice and safe.

Can't fucking wait >.< !

Glad to see you've finally getting back in your feet, what's it been, a month?
 
Does anyone know of an RF receiver that allows you to turn on a PC remotely? I am looking for something cheap, and I need no other functions than being able to turn the machine off and on. I already have a small wireless keyboard, but it only allows me to put the computer to sleep (and then cannot wake it up)
 
Take your time with the cable management, it will save you a lot of hassle down the road.

And yea locking in the cpu requires a fair bit of force. Apart from that it's all really straight forward.
 
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