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Looks good but IMHO if you're gonna spend $1500 on a killer PC, it deserves a nicer CPU cooler and a better case. The 200R in particular is really just a budget case. Take a look at the Fractal Design R5 if you want something quiet and nice.

Yeah I picked case & PSU as placeholders - main concern was that the CPU/GPU/motherboard is a good balance for 3D gaming (eg dont need a more expensive CPU)

I saw fractal cases looked really nice designs too. Want something cool looking and with good airflow

I'll look into CPU coolers more too - there are a huge number of ones to choose from!
 
Yeah I picked case & PSU as placeholders, I saw fractal cases looked really nice designs too. Want something cool looking and with good airflow

I'll look into coolers more too - there are a huge number of ones to choose from!

The 212 Evo is fine and great value, and I'm just being nitpicky. :P Just think that if you're already spending a lot on something really nice, you might as well make sure everything's up to scratch.

The Noctua NH-D14 and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE would be good options for a higher end air cooler. And yes, your CPU/GPU selection will do you great.
 
This is my first attempt at creating a PC from parts so could be some stupidity in this :) I will likely choose a cheaper PSU, just picked something at 1000W

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($342.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($200.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($221.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($172.04 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1521.90

Now is it me or does the math not add up in the above build.. 1500 dollar build with a Titan X/4790K/500GB EVO etc..

lol.

Edit: PCPartPicker says 2,400USD on the site.. That's more like it :D
 
Now is it me or does the math not add up in the above build.. 1500 dollar build with a Titan X/4790K/500GB EVO etc..

lol.

Edit: PCPartPicker says 2,400USD on the site.. That's more like it :D

Yeah, I got a surprise too when I saw that

$2400 is what I saw originally using that site - I copied that back into my original post so people dont think you can buy one that cheap!
 
The 212 Evo is fine and great value, and I'm just being nitpicky. :P Just think that if you're already spending a lot on something really nice, you might as well make sure everything's up to scratch.

The Noctua NH-D14 and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE would be good options for a higher end air cooler. And yes, your CPU/GPU selection will do you great.

Thanks for the recommendations I will check those out.

Its quite shocking to me how so may places are just using these older quad core CPU's (versus the more expensive 6 and 8 core Intel CPU's even when using SLI Titans)

It would make sense for Intel to buy nvidia (presumably the success of ARM's eg Apple means its no longer a monopoly which could have been a factor before?)
 
Honestly if you're gonna be building in a few months, you should come back then because the landscape of GPUs might've changed a bit, since AMD's next series of cards is on the horizon. However, for fun, I came up with this build to give you an idea of what you might be able to get for your money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($323.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Dell P2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($241.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1615.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 18:04 EDT-0400



It'll probably be okay for the 970, since they require 2x6 pin connectors and your 650TX fills that need. As long as you're not overvolting or have a particularly power hungry CPU I think you should be fine for the short-medium term future.

Sorry I worded that bad I can build now but should I wait for a few months? I was reading something about new graphic cards since that new titan x came out so I don't know
 
Looking to upgrade my PSU in preparation for getting another 970. Is the 750w G2 still the cream of the crop?

I bought a Cooler Master 750v and it's better if you plan on getting an ITX case in the future, since it's smaller and also very good quality. You can't go wrong with the EVGA though.
 
Looking to upgrade my PSU in preparation for getting another 970. Is the 750w G2 still the cream of the crop?

I have an 850G2 and am running 2x980s without a hitch. EVGA's PSUs are incredible, and extremely high quality. You shouldn't have a problem running 2 970s on a 750G2.
 
Hmm, I appear to have "lost" about 15GB on my C: SSD. WinDirStat is reporting that I'm using 29.7GB, but under "This PC," it reports C: as 14.3GB free of 59.1GB, or using 44.8GB. Googling around has mentioned pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys, but it's neither of those as far as I can tell. Any other suggestions to look at?
 
Hmm, I appear to have "lost" about 15GB on my C: SSD. WinDirStat is reporting that I'm using 29.7GB, but under "This PC," it reports C: as 14.3GB free of 59.1GB, or using 44.8GB. Googling around has mentioned pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys, but it's neither of those as far as I can tell. Any other suggestions to look at?
Ghost copies?

Such as system restore points
 
Well, just got my c70, cant wait to swap everything, quite suprised at it dwarfing my haf 912 lol. Planning to squeeze one of my corsair 200mm white leds up front



excuse my dirty haf front panel haha

Heh I have the same exact keyboard as you (the Battlefield 3 edition). Love it. Also kind of funny that Battlefield 3 is the only Battlefield game I've never owned.
 
What's your opinion on AIO liquid coolers. I consider getting one for my next build. Are they better now than they used to be? I remember reading reviews which didn't sound too promising.
 
What's your opinion on AIO liquid coolers. I consider getting one for my next build. Are they better now than they used to be? I remember reading reviews which didn't sound too promising.

Depends on how much you're willing to spend. Water coolers will never approach the performance-to-price that an air cooler will offer, but the most expensive water coolers (NZXT Kraken X61? Swiftech H220-X/H240-X?) will outperform the best air coolers (Noctua NH-D15, Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme?) by a decent margin at high overclocking, although at a much higher price.

If you are doing a super compact HTPC/mITX build, or aren't overclocking, or just want a open looking interior, lower cost water coolers are fine. Otherwise, I'd recommend air coolers.
 
Depends on how much you're willing to spend. Water coolers will never approach the performance-to-price that an air cooler will offer, but the most expensive water coolers (NZXT Kraken X61? Swiftech H220-X/H240-X?) will outperform the best air coolers (Noctua NH-D15, Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme?) by a decent margin at high overclocking, although at a much higher price.

If you are doing a super compact HTPC/mITX build, or aren't overclocking, or just want a open looking interior, lower cost water coolers are fine. Otherwise, I'd recommend air coolers.

Money isn't the big issue, but I think I'll just stick with air coolers then. I'll do some overcklocking, but I don't want to set new records :D

Just need to find a black cooler since I want to theme my next build all-black (maybe some red accents). So my best bet would probably be a bequiet cooler.
 
Money isn't the big issue, but I think I'll just stick with air coolers then. I'll do some overcklocking, but I don't want to set new records :D

Just need to find a black cooler since I want to theme my next build all-black (maybe some red accents). So my best bet would probably be a bequiet cooler.
If your choice of case is large enough, consider the black version of the Phanteks PH-TC14PE ($70), it's a 140mm air cooler that according to Xbit Labs will perform on par with the Noctua NH-D15, which is basically one of the best heatsinks you can buy but currently costs $101.

The Be Quiet! coolers aren't bad, though, just not as well performing as the above two.
 
If your choice of case is large enough, consider the black version of the Phanteks PH-TC14PE ($70), it's a 140mm air cooler that according to Xbit Labs will perform on par with the Noctua NH-D15, which is basically one of the best heatsinks you can buy but currently costs $101.

The Be Quiet! coolers aren't bad, but I don't think they compare to the Noctua and Phanteks in terms of overall cooling performance.

Haven't had Phanteks on my list, looks good. It's even cheaper than my old cooler (Noctua NH-D14).

Speaking of cases. Still have to decide between Corsair Carbide Air 540, NZXT S340 and Fractal Define R4/R5. Think they should be able to handle the Phanteks.

But I sill have 2 months left go decide till I'm back in Europe :D
 
Could be. Desktop is shut down for the night, I'll take a look at this tomorrow. Seems to be a pretty recent thing. Not sure when, but not too long ago it was reporting correct space.

Probably indexing/shadow copies. I just deleted over 50GB of that junk a few days ago from my 120GB SSD.

Run windirstat as an administrator, it should show everything and match up correctly.

You might have to use the command line to clear it. Forgot what exactly I did.
 
Just wanted to post from my first pc build!

Everything went perfectly. I'm installing drivers and such right now. I'm very pleased with how it turned out look-wise. My cable management was much better than I was expecting. I made the mistake of not purchasing a modular PSU, so i'm hiding shit I really don't need in there. I may end up going sli or to a 980 in the future, and if I do, that will give me reason to pull it apart and rewire everything.

I'll post up some pics once I get everything finished up.

The only thing I'm still waiting to arrive is my keyboard with cherry mx blues and my red and black sets of otaku keys.
 
When is it a good time to build a PC?

The reason I ask is that I'm thinking about getting a GTX 970 for my PC but they've been out 6 months and haven't had any price drop yet. The CPU I want to get i5-4690k has also increased in price since last year. I would have been better off building it last year when the GTX 970 came out... I also don't want to play the waiting game, so I'm happy to buy now if need be. However I do have a pretty solid macbook to hold me over, and tons of games so I can get along fine without it.
 
Say I was looking for an upgrade of my gpu to power my 144hz monitor and was looking to sell my Gtx Titan to help fund a new card. If I could find a used Titan that wasn't nearly as expensive as a new 980 I would consider sli. What would be a fair price to ask for a Titan?
 
When is it a good time to build a PC?

The reason I ask is that I'm thinking about getting a GTX 970 for my PC but they've been out 6 months and haven't had any price drop yet. The CPU I want to get i5-4690k has also increased in price since last year. I would have been better off building it last year when the GTX 970 came out... I also don't want to play the waiting game, so I'm happy to buy now if need be. However I do have a pretty solid macbook to hold me over, and tons of games so I can get along fine without it.

What country are you in and what's your budget? The GTX 970 and 980 may drop in price when AMD's new R9 3XX line is released in around 3 months.

If you can wait around half a year, Intel's new consumer Skylake and Broadwell desktop processors are slated to release around then. Broadwell is just the next (and last) processor family to hit Z97 motherboards, but Skylake will release on the new Z170 motherboard platform that will eventually replace Z97. Z97 and socket 1150 are on the way out after this year.

That doesn't mean that building now is all that bad. In terms of performance, the 4690K and GTX 970/R9 290X will be just fine at 1080p, and will last a couple of years easily. What you gain by waiting for Skylake is slightly better futureproofing because Z170 motherboards will feature DDR4 support and the 1151 socket which future consumer Intel processors will use. Also, motherboard manufacturers now are only starting to adopt USB 3.1 and USB type C, I would hope that those will become standard features on later motherboards and there will be more than just 1-2 ports.
 
Hey guys, concerning Nvidia drivers: Is it okay to just install each new driver on top of the other? Or would it be better to do the whole deinstall process (completely un-install current driver software > clear registry values > reboot > install new driver)
 
Hey guys, concerning Nvidia drivers: Is it okay to just install each new driver on top of the other? Or would it be better to do the whole deinstall process (completely un-install current driver software > clear registry values > reboot > install new driver)

Just do the express install over previous one. If you run into issues, do custom > fresh install.
 
Hey guys, concerning Nvidia drivers: Is it okay to just install each new driver on top of the other? Or would it be better to do the whole deinstall process (completely un-install current driver software > clear registry values > reboot > install new driver)

There shouldn't really be any issues with simply installing new drivers on top, the system knows to replace the old driver with the new one.

That said, if you want to be thorough and don't mind taking a couple of minutes longer and rebooting into safe mode, use Display Driver Uninstaller, it'll walk you through and it's easy to use.
 
Just wanted to post from my first pc build!

Everything went perfectly. I'm installing drivers and such right now. I'm very pleased with how it turned out look-wise. My cable management was much better than I was expecting. I made the mistake of not purchasing a modular PSU, so i'm hiding shit I really don't need in there. I may end up going sli or to a 980 in the future, and if I do, that will give me reason to pull it apart and rewire everything.

I'll post up some pics once I get everything finished up.

The only thing I'm still waiting to arrive is my keyboard with cherry mx blues and my red and black sets of otaku keys.

Congratulations.

Modular PSU are really nice, but it sounds like you did a good job regardless. :)
 
Ghost copies?

Such as system restore points

Probably indexing/shadow copies. I just deleted over 50GB of that junk a few days ago from my 120GB SSD.

Run windirstat as an administrator, it should show everything and match up correctly.

You might have to use the command line to clear it. Forgot what exactly I did.

That was it, thanks! Just cleared 15GB of them. Weird that I built this PC in October and they just now showed up.
 
Say I was looking for an upgrade of my gpu to power my 144hz monitor and was looking to sell my Gtx Titan to help fund a new card. If I could find a used Titan that wasn't nearly as expensive as a new 980 I would consider sli. What would be a fair price to ask for a Titan?

This is sort of relavent to my situation so I'm quoting your post. I'm planning on selling my MSI Twin Frozr II 560 Ti 1 GB card soon - probably just gonna give it a listing on GAF to try and get it sold easily. Anyway, I think the best way is to look what sold auctions on eBay for your card have gone for, then knock off at least 10% from the price (probably 10-20%). I think that's the plan I'll use when I try to sell my 560 Ti.

Anyone else have some advice for us?
 
What country are you in and what's your budget? The GTX 970 and 980 may drop in price when AMD's new R9 3XX line is released in around 3 months.

If you can wait around half a year, Intel's new consumer Skylake and Broadwell desktop processors are slated to release around then. Broadwell is just the next (and last) processor family to hit Z97 motherboards, but Skylake will release on the new Z170 motherboard platform that will eventually replace Z97. Z97 and socket 1150 are on the way out after this year.

That doesn't mean that building now is all that bad. In terms of performance, the 4690K and GTX 970/R9 290X will be just fine at 1080p, and will last a couple of years easily. What you gain by waiting for Skylake is slightly better futureproofing because Z170 motherboards will feature DDR4 support and the 1151 socket which future consumer Intel processors will use. Also, motherboard manufacturers now are only starting to adopt USB 3.1 and USB type C, I would hope that those will become standard features on later motherboards and there will be more than just 1-2 ports.

Thanks for the info.

That's the thing with waiting for the R3XX cards, there would probably be only 3 more months to go to wait for the GTX 10XX cards...

As for Skylake, I could definitely wait but my budget was for a Z97 motherboard and the i5-4690k (about AU$500), would the Skylake processors be around the same price? If so I suppose I can wait.

If its around what the Haswell-E price would go for at the moment, then I don't think I can afford the more expensive motherboard, the DDR4 memory and the CPU. Its easily another $400-500 more.

I live in (rural) Malaysia right now, and have to drive about 6 hours to Kuala Lumpur to get to a computer shop. It freaking sucks, but at the same time probably stops me spending all my money. I go back to Australia twice a year though, but its hard to bring all the gear (especially a monitor) and the Australian dollar is pretty horrible right now.

Also my budget was about AU$1800 ($US1500?) for the PC. I'm thinking of getting the Acer XB270HU which will probably set me back another AU$1000.
 
Thanks for the info.

That's the thing with waiting for the R3XX cards, there would probably be only 3 more months to go to wait for the GTX 10XX cards...

As for Skylake, I could definitely wait but my budget was for a Z97 motherboard and the i5-4690k (about AU$500), would the Skylake processors be around the same price? If so I suppose I can wait.

If its around what the Haswell-E price would go for at the moment, then I don't think I can afford the more expensive motherboard, the DDR4 memory and the CPU. Its easily another $400-500 more.

I live in (rural) Malaysia right now, and have to drive about 6 hours to Kuala Lumpur to get to a computer shop. It freaking sucks, but at the same time probably stops me spending all my money. I go back to Australia twice a year though, but its hard to bring all the gear (especially a monitor) and the Australian dollar is pretty horrible right now.

Also my budget was about AU$1800 ($US1500?) for the PC. I'm thinking of getting the Acer XB270HU which will probably set me back another AU$1000.

Well, AMD and Nvidia rarely launch new lines at the same time. They usually launch new lines separately from each other so instead of competing head to head, they tend to leapfrog each other instead. The GTX 970/980 were launched around September of last year, it's unlikely that they'll launch the GTX 980 Ti or 10XX line only 8 months later. Besides, there's usually a lot of rumors flying around as AMD and Nvidia never manage to get complete secrecy before launching a new product line, and the only industry gossip so far for Nvidia has been about the GTX Titan X which just came out (edit: and a GTX 980 Ti). Pascal line is still slated for 2016, no month was specified because it's still very far off.

It's safe to assume that Intel will launch Skylake to supplant Z97 Haswell/Broadwell at the same price ranges, maybe a bit higher priced since they're for a new platform. Intel has been doing that for the last couple of years, like when they launched the 4690K. They discontinue the old processors and immediately sell the new ones for the same or maybe slightly higher MSRP than the old ones. Intel runs two separate product lines for consumers and enthusiasts, there's no way Skylake will cost as much as Haswell-E, they're for different markets and roles.

I guess you'll have to check prices in a few months when you're closer to being ready to buy. I don't know how much PC parts sell for in Malaysia.


That's not exactly the 1080p most people think of, 2560x1080 is a little bit harder to run than 1920x1080, but not as demanding as 1440p (2560x1440). What are your system specs, your graphics card?

Can't say for sure since I'm not a monitor guy, but user reviews seem to be great across the board wherever I look (Newegg, Amazon, Best Buy, LG website) and the price is great. It's $230 at Newegg and according to price tracker, the cheapest it got on Newegg was $200. Can't seem to find any professional reviews, though.
 
Haven't had Phanteks on my list, looks good. It's even cheaper than my old cooler (Noctua NH-D14).

Speaking of cases. Still have to decide between Corsair Carbide Air 540, NZXT S340 and Fractal Define R4/R5. Think they should be able to handle the Phanteks.

But I sill have 2 months left go decide till I'm back in Europe :D

I just want to add that I looooove my Fractal Define R5. It was a joy to build in and looks classy as hell.
 
Well, AMD and Nvidia rarely launch new lines at the same time. They usually launch new lines separately from each other so instead of competing head to head, they tend to leapfrog each other instead. The GTX 970/980 were launched around September of last year, it's unlikely that they'll launch the GTX 980 Ti or 10XX line only 8 months later. Besides, there's usually a lot of rumors flying around as AMD and Nvidia never manage to get complete secrecy before launching a new product line, and the only industry gossip so far for Nvidia has been about the GTX Titan X which just came out. Pascal is still slated for 2016, no month was specified because it's still very far off.

It's safe to assume that Intel will launch Skylake to supplant Z97 Haswell/Broadwell at the same price ranges, maybe a bit higher priced since they're for a new platform. Intel has been doing that for the last couple of years, like when they launched the 4690K. They discontinue the old processors and immediately sell the new ones for the same or maybe slightly higher MSRP than the old ones. Intel runs two separate product lines for consumers and enthusiasts, there's no way Skylake will cost as much as Haswell-E, they're for different markets and roles.

I guess you'll have to check prices in a few months when you're closer to being ready to buy. I don't know how much PC parts sell for in Malaysia.



That's not exactly the 1080p most people think of, 2560x1080 is a little bit harder to run than 1920x1080, but not as demanding as 1440p (2560x1440). What are your system specs, your graphics card?

Can't say for sure since I'm not a monitor guy, but user reviews seem to be great across the board wherever I look (Newegg, Amazon, Best Buy, LG website) and the price is great. It's $230 at Newegg and according to price tracker, the cheapest it got on Newegg was $200. Can't seem to find any professional reviews, though.
I am still planning in building my pc over the summer! I intend to play at 1080 p so this monitor should be OK right? Like you said the reviews are good... Do you know what is IPS?
 
Soooo... I need to replace my PSU. Can anyone recommend me a solid deal for a 700W PSU? I don't mind paying for quality, mind you.

And if there are any dutchies around here: what is a good web-shop to order parts? Only ones I know are My-Com and Alternate..

Edit: another question. When choosing a PSU, are there any specific things I should focus on? Like, for instance, do all PSU's fit in every case or should I grab my measurement tape?
 
Soooo... I need to replace my PSU. Can anyone recommend me a solid deal for a 700W PSU? I don't mind paying for quality, mind you.

And if there are any dutchies around here: what is a good web-shop to order parts? Only ones I know are My-Com and Alternate..

Edit: another question. When choosing a PSU, are there any specific things I should focus on? Like, for instance, do all PSU's fit in every case or should I grab my measurement tape?

what budget? Do the likes of Amazon.de ship to you guys?

What case are you putting it in to?

Out of interest too, what system are you powering? Do you really need 700w?
 
Does anyone here recommend hybrid drives, ie a combo of SSD + physical drive in one device? As an alternative to 2 drives, 1 SSD 1 mechanical...
 
Soooo... I need to replace my PSU. Can anyone recommend me a solid deal for a 700W PSU? I don't mind paying for quality, mind you.

And if there are any dutchies around here: what is a good web-shop to order parts? Only ones I know are My-Com and Alternate..

The cheapest I'd recommend is the EVGA Supernova B2 750 watt model for 96€. Bronze rating and semi modular, built by Super Flower. Review here.

For gold rating and full modular, there's this Antec EDG750 for 115€. Made by Seasonic. Review here.

For other choices, It's hard ti go wrong with this list. From there the only things I'd avoid are the older EVGA B1/G1 models, they're OK but there are better models in that list.

Edit: yeah, power supply size may be restricted by your case dimensions and interior layout and design. As Kharma45 asked, what are your system specs? I assume you're planning to do SLI/crossfire or multiple graphics cards?

Does anyone here recommend hybrid drives, ie a combo of SSD + physical drive in one device? As an alternative to 2 drives, 1 SSD 1 mechanical...
Depends. If it's for a compact PC or a laptop, then the space savings would be nice, but otherwise I'd recommend separate drives for better cost and performance. Are you talking about the Seagate drives with a tiny amount of flash memory for high speed caching, or something like the WD Black² drives that have a full on 120GB SSD built in?
 
Soooo... I need to replace my PSU. Can anyone recommend me a solid deal for a 700W PSU? I don't mind paying for quality, mind you.

And if there are any dutchies around here: what is a good web-shop to order parts? Only ones I know are My-Com and Alternate..

Edit: another question. When choosing a PSU, are there any specific things I should focus on? Like, for instance, do all PSU's fit in every case or should I grab my measurement tape?

I can recommend mindfactory.de, shipping to NL is 20€ though. I prefer be quiet! and Corsair PSUs.

I just want to add that I looooove my Fractal Define R5. It was a joy to build in and looks classy as hell.

By far the most beautiful case out there. How is it CM-wise?
 
what budget? Do the likes of Amazon.de ship to you guys?

What case are you putting it in to?

Out of interest too, what system are you powering? Do you really need 700w?

I don't really have a budget, lol. But I also don't want to buy anything that is overkill for my system.

My case is a Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced.

Good question about my system, cause I have no idea how to determine my needed voltage! My old PSU that's broke is also a 700W, so therefore I just assumed to get another 700W. Here's my system:

i5 2500K OC'ed to 4.4Ghz
a single EVGA SC GTX 980 4GB
8GB RAM
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 - Z68
SSD 250 GB and HDD 1 TB
1080p, but I DSR the shit out of everything.

The cheapest I'd recommend is the EVGA Supernova B2 750 watt model for 96€. Bronze rating and semi modular, built by Super Flower. Review here.

For gold rating and full modular, there's this Antec EDG750 for 115€. Made by Seasonic. Review here.

For other choices, It's hard ti go wrong with this list. From there the only things I'd avoid are the older EVGA B1/G1 models, they're OK but there are better models in that list.

Edit: yeah, power supply size may be restricted by your case dimensions and interior layout and design. As Kharma45 asked, what are your system specs? I assume you're planning to do SLI/crossfire or multiple graphics cards?

Thanks, what's the difference between modular and non-modular?

I can recommend mindfactory.de, shipping to NL is 20€ though. I prefer be quiet! and Corsair PSUs.

Thanks man.
 
I don't really have a budget, lol.

My case is a Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced.

Good question about my system, cause I have no idea how to determine my needed voltage! My old PSU that's broke is also a 700W, so therefore I just assumed to get another 700W. Here's my system:

i5 2500K OC'ed to 4.4Ghz
a single EVGA SC GTX 980 4GB
8GB RAM
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 - Z68
SSD 250 GB and HDD 1 TB
1080p, but I DSR the shit out of everything.



Thanks, what's the difference between modular and non-modular?



Thanks man.

You don't need 700w then, unless you plan to add another 980?

Modular means you don't have to use all ththe cables that come with the unit. You can detach some.

I'll throw you some options in a few mins.
 
You don't need 700w then, unless you plan to add another 980?

Modular means you don't have to use all ththe cables that come with the unit. You can detach some.

I'll throw you some options in a few mins.

Thanks man. But how does one determine how many watts a system needs? I would like some overhead obviously, just for insurance.
 
Well, AMD and Nvidia rarely launch new lines at the same time. They usually launch new lines separately from each other so instead of competing head to head, they tend to leapfrog each other instead. The GTX 970/980 were launched around September of last year, it's unlikely that they'll launch the GTX 980 Ti or 10XX line only 8 months later. Besides, there's usually a lot of rumors flying around as AMD and Nvidia never manage to get complete secrecy before launching a new product line, and the only industry gossip so far for Nvidia has been about the GTX Titan X which just came out (edit: and a GTX 980 Ti). Pascal line is still slated for 2016, no month was specified because it's still very far off.

It's safe to assume that Intel will launch Skylake to supplant Z97 Haswell/Broadwell at the same price ranges, maybe a bit higher priced since they're for a new platform. Intel has been doing that for the last couple of years, like when they launched the 4690K. They discontinue the old processors and immediately sell the new ones for the same or maybe slightly higher MSRP than the old ones. Intel runs two separate product lines for consumers and enthusiasts, there's no way Skylake will cost as much as Haswell-E, they're for different markets and roles.

I guess you'll have to check prices in a few months when you're closer to being ready to buy. I don't know how much PC parts sell for in Malaysia.

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I see. If they are around the same price points, I suppose I could wait. However do you think the Z97 motherboard, 16gb DDR3 Ram and i5-4690k could last say 3 to 4 years for gaming purposes? It's still way faster than the latest consoles so I reckon it probably would be fine?

Just did a price check on Malaysian prices vs Amazon prices, aside from the GPU, everything else was slightly cheaper (about 10%)! :)

Also how do you think the Gigabyte GTX970 G1 would go with the latest games on 1440p? I'm thinking about getting a Acer XB270HU but need to decide on an appropriate GPU. I'm cool with reducing the detail to little to keep frames up. It seems like its as good as a stock GTX980?
 
I see. If they are around the same price points, I suppose I could wait. However do you think the Z97 motherboard, 16gb DDR3 Ram and i5-4690k could last say 3 to 4 years for gaming purposes? It's still way faster than the latest consoles so I reckon it probably would be fine?

Just did a price check on Malaysian prices vs Amazon prices, aside from the GPU, everything else was slightly cheaper (about 10%)! :)

Also how do you think the Gigabyte GTX970 G1 would go with the latest games on 1440p? I'm thinking about getting a Acer XB270HU but need to decide on an appropriate GPU. I'm cool with reducing the detail to little to keep frames up. It seems like its as good as a stock GTX980?

Yes, I definitely feel comfortable saying that the 4690K and 16GB of RAM on Z97 will last around 4 years, especially if you overclock the 4690K. A GTX 970 will handle 1440p reasonably (at least 30FPS and up to and above 60FPS) although it varies by the game, and reducing certain settings by a bit will go a long way towards a higher framerate and longer useful period before it'll need to be replaced.

That Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming is very good, but not quite at GTX 980 levels. It's definitely possible to overclock it and come close to or even match a GTX 980, though. Guru3D and Hexus weres able to get it very close to the Gigabyte GTX 980 G1 Gaming which says something, seeing as that's better than any stock/lower end GTX 980.

Thanks man. But how does one determine how many watts a system needs? I would like some overhead obviously, just for insurance.

You can try out this wattage calculator, figures may seem low but you should take that as an average load, and remember to leave room for high/peak load and overclocking.
 
I took out the cmos battery and saw that my cpu power was loose from the cpu power extension

Took them apart and noticed they have different sockes

Mb and cpu power extension have the same sockes but my power supply cpu sockets are completely different


Mb and cpu extension are
OSSO
SOOS

cpu from power supply is
OSOO
SOOO



the pinouts that you are describing when talking about the connector from the powersupply is that of a PCI-e 8pin, which are used to power graphics cards, not cpus.

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