MikeE21286
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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.
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MikeE21286
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If you can find a 1070 that would seemingly be potentially more performance and cheaper than a 980 ti (at the $379 MSRP for the 1070).
Could you be so kind and point me DIRECTLY to a good HDD
I have no idea what to look for RPM wise.
WD Black 124 or Hitachi Ultrastar 67
ISee
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That could be a bit of a problem. During windows 7/8 times tools like Magical JellyBean Keyfinder worked pretty good to recover your windows key. But I never tried it on win 10 so...
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Cool man. Currently on 4.7GHz @ 1.38VCore with Witcher 3 load temps of ~48°C. Might see if I can go further tomorrow even though the gains are non-existent.
Speaking of, in retrospect I suppose I didn't need to upgrade from the i7 2600K at all. I'm not noticing maximum framerate increases in any games, especially since at 1440p and maxed out they're putting more load on the GPU than the CPU. However, stuttering seems reduced in Wild Hunt, with all my crazy draw distance tweaks. It's still present absolutely, but overall seems less frequent and also less obvious. I assume this is simply an advantage in the 6700K's efficiency in preparing information for the GPU, working more coherently with the 980 Ti.
ISee
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Hmm interesting. What was your 2600k OC and how fast was your ddr3 ram?
Later Alligator
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the prices above are used, that $379 price tag is in the USA and components are much more expensive here (Canada)
1070 will likely be $500 - 550 here right off the bat, and the resale value of my 970 will drop even further by then
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I...don't remember lol. Something like 4.4Ghz, 2133MHz. Witcher 3 is a hard one to test though, and I don't know if I'm just seeing things. Certain vistas are basically frame-for-frame identical, but minimum framerate might be higher, especially when it comes to general exploration and loading. Less hitching, though not perfect.
ISee
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That was already a fast 2600k, especially paired with 2133 ddr3 ram as w3 really loves faster ram. Still getting a better minimum frame rate would indicate that upgrading your cpu helped, but it's hard to tell without comparing the same location/savegame.
Still I hope it will at least help in future games and that my recommendation wasn't pure nonsense (a.k.a. bullshit).
edit: and btw could you link me to your ini tweak? I'd like to try them out myself.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Nah, no regrets in the slightest. I hadn't splurged on tech stuff in awhile, I'll get a little back selling my old MBO, 2600K, RAM combo, and it should future proof me for a little bit.
And by a little bit I mean until affordable 8-core CPUs become the norm
The Omega Man
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About to pull the trigger on a AOC G-Sync monitor 1080P, I game with a 970GTX, yay or nay?
Canklestank
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You don't need to know it. Once the key is attached to your system, MS knows that. Use the MS media creation tool to setup a USB drive to do a fresh Windows 10 install. Just skip the step when it asks for activation. It should activate later.
Follow this.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/
Hey all, is this used PC worth £435pounds?
Alienware x51 graphics, GTX 760 TI, 8 gb of memory, I7-4770-3.40 GHz processor.
Thanks you.
to buy a second hand 4770 & a GTX760 would be about £235 or so, is the rest of it worth £200 to you.
Where are you finding this monitor? Seems to be sold out everywhere I look. Are you in the U.S?
Go_Ly_Dow
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Thanks, hmmmm probably not I don't think.
ahhh. I check all the time and it has been sold out lol. Thanks. I really want a 1440p gsync monitor, but this is a nice price. hrmmm
UpDownLeftRight
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I'd more concerned with the condition of the parts with how that system looks anyway to be honest.
GlamFM
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Thank you!
Purely for aesthetic reasons. I want a Black/White/Gold build and the Dominator RAM seems to be super easy to paint.
Vigilant Walrus
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Did the remove the Laptop 2015-2016 thread? I can't find it!
If you need a laptop and your light on cash, this Dell Inspirion 7000 sounds fucking amazing. 750 dollars for a entry level gaming laptop; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9KzjdfDXmI
< looks sharp in black/red
< 960m 4GB GGDR5
< i5 quad
< 1080p IPS with MATTE display (matte, so you can use the damn thing outside in daylight)
< decent battery, audio, keyboard.
< seems to run cool under load (no throttle, high temps)
< can upgrade ram and harddrive after market. has a m2 slot, so you can do 512gb m2, and then a big SSHD or big SSD or keep the HDD.
Bad sides seems to be; not a good trackpad, no touchscreen, and at 6 pounds it isn't as comfortable to carry around as you might have wanted. Furthermore Dell customer support is not the stuff made of legends.
Lastly, a new generation of pascal mobile GPUs are inbound and depending on their power efficiency they might be quite a bit more powerful than these maxwell 960m GPUs.
On the other hand, Dell and other vendors must be clearing out all their maxwell volumes to make way for the new cards.
But I am sitting here jumping up and down. This thing looks nice. The prospect of a really solid gaming laptop for 750 dollars? What a time to be alive! It's not long ago since gaming laptops were a bad value.
If you're someone who has a powerful pc, but would still like the luxury of having a backup mobile PC which holds all your steam games, this here could be a good option.
I hope its a sign of things to come. I like having the laptops thick enough to give really solid cooling and thick enough to let you do your own aftermarket upgrades.
If you need a laptop and your light on cash, this Dell Inspirion 7000 sounds fucking amazing. 750 dollars for a entry level gaming laptop; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9KzjdfDXmI
< looks sharp in black/red
< 960m 4GB GGDR5
< i5 quad
< 1080p IPS with MATTE display (matte, so you can use the damn thing outside in daylight)
< decent battery, audio, keyboard.
< seems to run cool under load (no throttle, high temps)
< can upgrade ram and harddrive after market. has a m2 slot, so you can do 512gb m2, and then a big SSHD or big SSD or keep the HDD.
Bad sides seems to be; not a good trackpad, no touchscreen, and at 6 pounds it isn't as comfortable to carry around as you might have wanted. Furthermore Dell customer support is not the stuff made of legends.
Lastly, a new generation of pascal mobile GPUs are inbound and depending on their power efficiency they might be quite a bit more powerful than these maxwell 960m GPUs.
On the other hand, Dell and other vendors must be clearing out all their maxwell volumes to make way for the new cards.
But I am sitting here jumping up and down. This thing looks nice. The prospect of a really solid gaming laptop for 750 dollars? What a time to be alive! It's not long ago since gaming laptops were a bad value.
If you're someone who has a powerful pc, but would still like the luxury of having a backup mobile PC which holds all your steam games, this here could be a good option.
I hope its a sign of things to come. I like having the laptops thick enough to give really solid cooling and thick enough to let you do your own aftermarket upgrades.
blitzkrieg184
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Thanks again ISee! Ya I wasn't completely sold on the mouse and keyboard so I'm glad someone caught that and said something.
SSDs just make things boot quicker correct? So the OS and any games I put in it will start quick?
How do I know what RAMs are quicker?
I'd be happy at medium or high settings. 380x is good then? What's the difference between the 380 and 380x?
I'm definitely going to wait and look at the ones you recommended first don't worry! But when I looked I thought I saw it would be like $400 or something so I made a plan b. But I'm not sure. Who makes it and what's the GPUs name? I don't understand GPUs much. Every company seems to have the same thing but different colours. Is this the Polaris 480 or something? Whats better about them? I think I saw a Polaris 10 and 11 but I'm not sure what those are. :s where can I find info on these things?
So currently building a pc and i'm down to a couple monitors, just wondering which one to go with
AOC - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV1XBEI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Acer - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KO4518I/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Unstable keeps telling me to go AOC because of the freesync but i'm planning on getting the gtx 1070 so free sync won't really matter, but I guess if I get an amd gpu in the future it could be a hidden bonus. It's just that I haven't really heard of AOC before.
Also this is my first pc and here is what I have built (thanks to Unstable for basically building it for me). I got a different cpu cooler than the one listed because its not on the site for some reason, and like I said i'm getting the gtx 1070 so it will replace the 970.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RGPYP6
AOC - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV1XBEI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Acer - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KO4518I/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Unstable keeps telling me to go AOC because of the freesync but i'm planning on getting the gtx 1070 so free sync won't really matter, but I guess if I get an amd gpu in the future it could be a hidden bonus. It's just that I haven't really heard of AOC before.
Also this is my first pc and here is what I have built (thanks to Unstable for basically building it for me). I got a different cpu cooler than the one listed because its not on the site for some reason, and like I said i'm getting the gtx 1070 so it will replace the 970.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RGPYP6
Ram speed is defined by frequency in MHz and Timings (latency, usually formatted X-X-X-XX).
Higher frequency the better.
Lower timings the better.
There is a trade off with frequency and timings, a good 3000Mhz kit should be CL15 (first timing in the format). For 2666Mhz CL13/14. Usually each step up in frequency has 1 higher CL. A decent 2133Mhz kit should be CL12.
Gunna use some of the parts I have to upgrade my computer.
Question.. I've had my Corsair H80 for a year or two now and it's still going strong. It should be enough for a 6700k, right? Was planning on trying to get it to 4.3-4.4GHz.
New parts:
ASUS Z170-A ATX DDR4 Motherboards
Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST2000DM001)
Question.. I've had my Corsair H80 for a year or two now and it's still going strong. It should be enough for a 6700k, right? Was planning on trying to get it to 4.3-4.4GHz.
New parts:
ASUS Z170-A ATX DDR4 Motherboards
Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST2000DM001)
It'll be fine. Would go for a Hitachi/Toshiba or WD HDD. Seagate tend to have the highest failure rates.
Current Specs: i5-2500k / 8GB slow DDR3 / Sapphire Radeon 7970 / That bigass white NZXT case that everyone wanted in 2012 but is embarassing now / OCZ Vertex 3 2.5" 120GB
Budget: Looking to spend around $1200 total, including the GPU, but I'm flexible.
Main Use: Plex server, web browsing, gaming, software development (mostly big data stuff).
Monitor Resolution: 3440 x 1440. (LG 34UM95)
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Dark Souls 3. Any future Souls games. VR (oculus rift.)
Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model: My GPU (Sapphire Radeon 7970) will be re-used until I can secure a GTX 1080. Might also reuse my SSD unless someone strongly recommends against doing so. Everything else will be re-purposed as a plex server for my parents.
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?: I intend to buy parts this week, while the price mistake on motherboards is still active at my MicroCenter.
Will you be overclocking?: Ideally, depending on heat constraints from a small case.
Finally thinking about upgrading my 2500k/7970 build! I built this damn thing while applying for college, so I think it's about time to retire it.
I'd like to go MicroATX or MiniITX, since my new place is pretty small, but I have some questions first.
1: Is MiniITX worth going for? I'd be using my massive brick of a 7970 until I can get hold of a 1080. I ask because my local Microcenter has an open-box Gigabye G1 for around $110, complete. Seems to have much better reviews than the MicroATX boards.
1b: If I do decide to stick with MiniATX, does anyone have case recommendations, considering that I'll be fitting a huge old GPU in there for a while? Any particular warnings? This is going to be my first time with a tiny build.
2: If MiniATX still isn't 'there' yet, I'm going with Micro. Only one issue - all of the boards I've been looking at seem to have terrible reviews. Z170 boards in general seem to all have below a 3 on newegg, which makes me nervous.
This seems to be the only one in stock with good reviews, but I'm hesitant to spend $180 on a motherboard with features I'll never use.
This Gigabyte board ($70) is the only other reasonable choice they have in stock. Everything else is a $200+ enthusiast board, or sub-$60 trash.
3: Is it worth the $110 difference between a 6600k and a 6700k? I have the money, I just want to know if it's pointless, or doesn't make sense in terms of price/performance.
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks! I'm excited.
Budget: Looking to spend around $1200 total, including the GPU, but I'm flexible.
Main Use: Plex server, web browsing, gaming, software development (mostly big data stuff).
Monitor Resolution: 3440 x 1440. (LG 34UM95)
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Dark Souls 3. Any future Souls games. VR (oculus rift.)
Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model: My GPU (Sapphire Radeon 7970) will be re-used until I can secure a GTX 1080. Might also reuse my SSD unless someone strongly recommends against doing so. Everything else will be re-purposed as a plex server for my parents.
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?: I intend to buy parts this week, while the price mistake on motherboards is still active at my MicroCenter.
Will you be overclocking?: Ideally, depending on heat constraints from a small case.
Finally thinking about upgrading my 2500k/7970 build! I built this damn thing while applying for college, so I think it's about time to retire it.
I'd like to go MicroATX or MiniITX, since my new place is pretty small, but I have some questions first.
1: Is MiniITX worth going for? I'd be using my massive brick of a 7970 until I can get hold of a 1080. I ask because my local Microcenter has an open-box Gigabye G1 for around $110, complete. Seems to have much better reviews than the MicroATX boards.
1b: If I do decide to stick with MiniATX, does anyone have case recommendations, considering that I'll be fitting a huge old GPU in there for a while? Any particular warnings? This is going to be my first time with a tiny build.
2: If MiniATX still isn't 'there' yet, I'm going with Micro. Only one issue - all of the boards I've been looking at seem to have terrible reviews. Z170 boards in general seem to all have below a 3 on newegg, which makes me nervous.
This seems to be the only one in stock with good reviews, but I'm hesitant to spend $180 on a motherboard with features I'll never use.
This Gigabyte board ($70) is the only other reasonable choice they have in stock. Everything else is a $200+ enthusiast board, or sub-$60 trash.
3: Is it worth the $110 difference between a 6600k and a 6700k? I have the money, I just want to know if it's pointless, or doesn't make sense in terms of price/performance.
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks! I'm excited.
Thanks for the response.
Looks like it's got high reviews on PC Part Picker, Amazon, and B&H, although Newegg has it listed as a 3/5. Does look like there's complaints of failure in some reviews though.
Really? People still use any of those sources as useful reviews?
Try this
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q4-2015/
Hi guys,
I'm also building my very first gaming rig with the upcoming gtx 1070.
I'm intending to use an Asus z170-P board with 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance IPX DDR4-3000 sticks and an i7-6700k. The cooler should be a Noctua NH-D14 (I'm also intending to OC my CPU)
My question is:
Will all the components above fit in the Fractal Design Define R4 without blocking off some RAM slots?
here is my config for a more detailed picture (ignore the 970 - its just a placeholder for the 1070 since they're around the same price):
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/qBRHf7
Thank you!
I'm also building my very first gaming rig with the upcoming gtx 1070.
I'm intending to use an Asus z170-P board with 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance IPX DDR4-3000 sticks and an i7-6700k. The cooler should be a Noctua NH-D14 (I'm also intending to OC my CPU)
My question is:
Will all the components above fit in the Fractal Design Define R4 without blocking off some RAM slots?
here is my config for a more detailed picture (ignore the 970 - its just a placeholder for the 1070 since they're around the same price):
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/qBRHf7
Thank you!
manny10032
Member
This is my build for the 1080.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v7qPmG
I'm using my current PSU, Hdd, Ssd, and my gtx660. Decided to go with the 1080 instead of the 1070
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v7qPmG
I'm using my current PSU, Hdd, Ssd, and my gtx660. Decided to go with the 1080 instead of the 1070
GAF, I need to know if I should upgrade my processor. When I'm on certain web pages and scroll the page freezes and then catches up after a couple of seconds. However, I can still move my mouse around and do other things..just not on the web browser. This happens a lot on GAF...is it because of all the GIF's and my adblocker being disabled for the site? I do not have this issue in games at all. I've never "froze" in a game before. Here are my specs.
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That's not really you. I use Waterfox and once in a while scrolling pages on GAF with many gifs or pictures and it'll hitch. Use another browser and see if it still happens.
Ok. I currently use Firefox, but I can't remember if it happened on Chrome or not. I'll give it a go.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-c.../blog_q3stats_manufacturer-e1444680042365.jpg
If I'm reading that correctly.. looks like the failure rate has dropped back in line with most other manufacturers in 2015?
draughn101
Member
Ok ladies and gents. Started putting my PC together. It's starting to come back to me, and then I get to the power supply. It's on the bottom of the case, and has a filter below it, but the instructions for the case show the fan side up. There seems to be some debate about which is better, but fan up or down? I'm guessing down, since there's a filter, but the manual is throwing me.
It's a Phantek P400 case.
It's a Phantek P400 case.
I have recently saw a video from LinusTechTips. generally it can go either way but if you put it fan-side down you must be careful where you put you PC: carpets i.e.
in the video they put it fan-side up which isn't a perfect choice since there is warmer air but the better of the two situation. Unfortunately I can't find the video but I hope this info helped you at least a bit
UPDATE:
found the video: https://youtu.be/roFb3TNePIg?t=15m51s
draughn101
Member
I have recently saw a video from LinusTechTips. generally it can go either way but if you put it fan-side down you must be careful where you put you PC: carpets i.e.
in the video they put it fan-side up which isn't a perfect choice since there is warmer air but the better of the two situation. Unfortunately I can't find the video but I hope this info helped you at least a bit
Ok. I'm pretty sure this will stay on my desk, and the P400 has some good risers on the bottom of the case. I'll flip it if it ever comes time to put it on the ground. Thank you!!
No problem. btw I found the video. Check my og post!
Got my pc this past weekend. i5-6500, gigabyte b7 sniper mobo, r9 380 4gb, 8gb 2133 ram, 500w evga power supply and a free upgrade to a case with silent foam on the inside since the case I ordered from ncix wouldn't get there till may 20+ or something. New case is way better than what I had originally ordered.
Picked up a 120gb ssd on my way home to get the computer (essentially a ssd just to hold win7/10), and oh my god it's an investment I would have made a long time ago if I knew how nice it would be. Although I didn't test it in my old computer, and that thing was falling apart, the boot time went from over 3 minutes to under 30 seconds.
The ssd made it actually kind of enjoyable installing everything. So many things want you to restart after update/install and I didn't really care cause I'd be back installing the next update in 15 seconds.
Picked up a 120gb ssd on my way home to get the computer (essentially a ssd just to hold win7/10), and oh my god it's an investment I would have made a long time ago if I knew how nice it would be. Although I didn't test it in my old computer, and that thing was falling apart, the boot time went from over 3 minutes to under 30 seconds.
The ssd made it actually kind of enjoyable installing everything. So many things want you to restart after update/install and I didn't really care cause I'd be back installing the next update in 15 seconds.
Turns out the problem wasn't with the cooler but with the motherboard. My Hero Alpha board put the voltage up to 1.3 from the start while keeping the clock speeds the same. I manually put it down to 1.18 and I'm averaging ~62C now. Can finally start overclocking.
Apparently this is releasing this month
SFx-L 700w Platinum.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=670&area=en
SFx-L 700w Platinum.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=670&area=en
DJ_Lae
Member
Well, after about 4 years my PSU seems to be on its way out (Antec HCP 750). I believe it has a 5 year warranty, so we'll see how much fun it is dealing with that process, but I figured I should probably nab a backup anyway just to be safe.
Right now I've got my finger over EVGA's 750w Supernova G2, which is $110CDN after rebate at the moment - the P2 is $30 more but is it even worth the increase? I also don't really need anything more powerful as I doubt I'll ever go SLI.
Right now I've got my finger over EVGA's 750w Supernova G2, which is $110CDN after rebate at the moment - the P2 is $30 more but is it even worth the increase? I also don't really need anything more powerful as I doubt I'll ever go SLI.
ISee
Member
More or less. Yes, that's it.
In the old days it was all about latency and it's still important but to make stuff more easy concentrate on clockspeed (mhz). The higher the better is the general rule here. Still you have to watch out if the mobo you picked is able to 'work' with faster clocked ddr4 above the standard 2133mhz.
Yes it's better/faster. Both are based on the same 28nm Tonga chip and clocked at the same speed but for example the 380x has more shader and Texture Mapping Units overall making it a better choice. It's much better than a nvidia gtx 960, but still slower than a gtx 970.
average in percent (tested in 18 games) said:
Ok let's make this as easy as I can. AMDs mainstream gpus are called 370,380(x). High end gpus are the 390 and 390x and Fury X aims for enthusiasts. Different manufacturers like MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte (etc.) offer custom designs of those graphic cards. They mostly change the cooling and the look of the card and sometimes offer stable factory over clocks.
AMD should very soon start to present the successors to the 370 and 380 series (most probably called similar: 470 and 480) based on Polaris 10 (the 380 is based on Tonga). Different manufacturers will also of course present custom designed 470/480 cards with better cooling, better looks and overclocks. According to rumors (but very trustworthy ones) the 470/480 crads are going to perform around current 390/390X levels (pls check the benchmark I postet for you above) making them extremely good, if they're priced at 370/380 levels.
But enough of me talking (and my broken english). Please listen to Richard from DF about Polaris 10/11, he knows and understand that stuff much better than me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMfGJf1KWWk
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