Not even the new Titan XP can do every game at 4K/Ultra/No AA 60fps. Maybe overclocked with a waterblock but even then you won't be locked above 60fps.
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Not even the new Titan XP can do every game at 4K/Ultra/No AA 60fps. Maybe overclocked with a waterblock but even then you won't be locked above 60fps.
Hawk269
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I had to do a fresh install of Win10 due to some issues. It has been a while since I had to do this. What programs are important that I have to add after I do the install? Right now it is running fine and I am testing my new GPU. But just want to make sure I am not missing anything critical that I should download.
Vsync in the Nvidia control panel has to be ON. You only want that off if you want go above your monitors refresh rate, like for benchmarking. And, in-game, you disable the Vsync setting.
The Hamburglar
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Now I'm confused. I thought g sync was supposed to give the benefits of v sync without v sync being on. If I turn v sync on while g sync is on won't I just get input lag and some micro stutter? With v sync off and g sync on but the resolution at 1440p I hit a steady 40fps and see no tearing as of g sync is working.
Damn feeling buyers regret on this monitor now
Also dark souls 3 is only ugly ass game on pc, coming from bloodborne.
ColdDeckEd
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You won't feel buyers regret once you upgrade your video card. 1060 or used 980 or 980ti and you'll be wondering what you ever did without that monitor lol.
I'm planning on upgrading my video card 660ti to a 1060 or 480 for 1080p gaming. Any idea if I should upgrade any of my other components? I'm planning on overclocking my processor to keep up with the new cards.
i5 - 3570k
8 gigabytes DDR3 1600
also are these good brands of the 1060 and 480? I noticed that the price of one of the 1060's was the same as the 480 which is confused me since the 1060 should be a more expensive card.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_558&item_id=098087
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=098586
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=098587
i5 - 3570k
8 gigabytes DDR3 1600
also are these good brands of the 1060 and 480? I noticed that the price of one of the 1060's was the same as the 480 which is confused me since the 1060 should be a more expensive card.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_558&item_id=098087
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=098586
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=098587
I haven't had any problems changing MBs without reinstalling since Windows 7. Each later versions has better driver support for such a thing. The only possible issue has to do with Windows activation after changing the MB.
Nvidia control panel Vsync is not the same as In-game setting Vsync. Maybe, Nvidia should have called it something else. Nvidia V dynamically changes the monitor's refresh rates to match the game's fps. In-game V tries to lock the game's fps to the monitor refresh rate. Both tries to eliminate screen tearing, but Gsync is a much better implementation. And, that's why you want Nvidia control panel Vsync = ON and In-game = OFF.
ehead
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I've been wondering this as well as a first time builder. I did, however, check if my drivers are all updated. Also, according to the race your pc thread, I downloaded 3dMark, and some hw monitoring programs (GPU Z, CPU Z, etc.). I'll try them out later.
It should be able to. Emphasis on "should". I always reinstall, anyway, just to be safe, as these days installing Windows takes no more than 20-30 minutes (i.e. when using a USB drive and SSD).
ColdDeckEd
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Intel XTU, OCCT (or prime95 or AIDA64) cpuz, gpuz, realtemp, afterburner, and 3dmark usually the first things I download or install from my backup.
You specify the display technology as G Sync in one option in NCP and actually turn it on by putting VSync on in the same screen. But have it turned off in all your software.
Gsync IS a form of VSync, just with a variable refresh rate. The display driver knows what you mean when you say "this is a variable refresh display" (ie. GSYNC display technology) and "keep refresh rate and frame rate in sync" (ie. VSync ON). But no game has any idea about your variable refresh monitor. They only see 144Hz or whatever and their own VSync setting will always try to keep locked to a viable multiple of that frame timing, which causes the sudden step jumps in frame rate that will cause that trademark stuttering and latency VSync is known for.
My Dad wants a new PC. I've specced him out a lovely £750-ish box, RX480 and whatnot. However, he wants a pre-build to compare.
I've had a look around Alienware and there is a massive gulf in their config. GTX960 jumps up to the terrible 1070 FE, small form factor ones won't even allow anything else other than GTX960 in them.
Who else in the UK does a pre-build that is decent quality that I can go have a look at?
I've had a look around Alienware and there is a massive gulf in their config. GTX960 jumps up to the terrible 1070 FE, small form factor ones won't even allow anything else other than GTX960 in them.
Who else in the UK does a pre-build that is decent quality that I can go have a look at?
The Hamburglar
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Pc specialist. Stay away from. Alienware massively over priced.
And thanks to the guys for explaining gsync. They really should explain it better, even nvidia a website isn't clear.
RamaTheVoice
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With all due respect to your dad of course, does he actually believe a pre-build might be cheaper?
Thanks, that looks much better!
No. There are two factors at play here:
1) Location, I'm a 5 hour train ride away, so it would be difficult to get the PC to him. Also no warranty with me if something goes wrong en route.
2) My mum. She is a worrier and worries that I might not build it well enough!! They're over 70, so just their nature!
Part for part, I would be about £200-£250 cheaper than PC Specialist, but at least they have the option.
RamaTheVoice
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That makes sense. A good middle ground may be to choose an online retailer that can build the PC based on the parts you buy from them for a little extra (or has a "PC-builder" option where you choose all your parts and they take care of the rest) and ship it to them, at least the warranty for all the parts would be covered by the same store and it would be cheaper than a pre-configured PC. Don't know any good ones in the UK though (E: just checked out PC Specialist and it's more or less exaclty what I meant, I really should read the other replies before posting).
Funny how parents are, I built a PC for my mom a couple months back and she was thrilled. The fact that I was taking care of it myself actually made her MORE confident.
I need some help.
Since I installed my 1070 (Zotac AMP! Edition), the GPU and also the CPU get pretty hot. (75 degree for the GPU) Nothing to worry about, but the fans are very audible. With my EVGA ACX 970 (which was smaller) before this didn't happen. Once I remove the side of my case the temperatur is decreasing to 68 degrees for the GPU. Anything I can do to improve the air flow for the GPU? I have case fans installed since the beginning. There is only one slot left on the side which I open and remove. Could replacing the CPU fan help here? I'm still running on the stock fan from Intel which served me well and wasn't loud with the 970.
Since I installed my 1070 (Zotac AMP! Edition), the GPU and also the CPU get pretty hot. (75 degree for the GPU) Nothing to worry about, but the fans are very audible. With my EVGA ACX 970 (which was smaller) before this didn't happen. Once I remove the side of my case the temperatur is decreasing to 68 degrees for the GPU. Anything I can do to improve the air flow for the GPU? I have case fans installed since the beginning. There is only one slot left on the side which I open and remove. Could replacing the CPU fan help here? I'm still running on the stock fan from Intel which served me well and wasn't loud with the 970.
AbandonedTrolley
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Friend is wanting to play No Mans Sky and asking for suitable builds with a budget of £600 best I could find was something like this?
Anything I should think of changing in there?
OS and optical drive not needed as already have.
Anything I should think of changing in there?
OS and optical drive not needed as already have.
I mean it depends on what games he will be playing whether an i5 vs an i3 will make a big difference. If you're shooting for medium, I wouldn't feel awful about an i3. I wouldn't even bother with a non-stock cooler, there's no way temperatures are going to be problematic short of doing a bad job with the thermal paste, at least on an i3 and not with an i5 either unless you were planning on over clocking an i5.
I think a RX 470 over a 460 is almost certainly worth it. That will likely impact performance a lot more in most games than the difference between an i5 and an i3.
RamaTheVoice
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Friend is wanting to play No Mans Sky and asking for suitable builds with a budget of £600 best I could find was something like this?
Anything I should think of changing in there?
OS and optical drive not needed as already have.
Go with an RX470 instead of the 380X. Better performance and more importantly, fewer heat and power issues. Also consider going with a Samsung SSD (750 EVO for instance).
AbandonedTrolley
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Cheers, would dropping to an i3 6100 to keep it in budget be okay? Main games I believe he will play is WoW and NMS
Steam doesn't scale properly in 4k either, at least not by default
RamaTheVoice
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I suggest you wait til the PC benchmarks hit starting tomorrow, but since NMS uses voxels it may be slightly CPU-intensive.
AbandonedTrolley
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Yeah will do, although can get the GPU+SSD upgrade with the i5 for £22 over budget which isn't bad really.
hooijdonk17
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I have a feeling the i3 would be a poorer choice for NMS than an FX 8300.. I would strongly suggest looking into that as an option as well. It's not something I would recommend for anything but a budget gaming build, but if you can't afford better than the i3 6100, the FX 8300 would give you much better multithreaded performance, and can OC up to 4.7-4.8GHz easily.
I wouldn't say easily, that sort of overclocking puts you at the top few percentiles of overclocks on a few benchmarking sites.
InsaneMonkey
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Taking a look at the build list since I have no idea what I'm doing, this is what I've got so far:
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Graphics: GTX1060
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive x2
Case: Thermaltake V3 VL8001W2Z ATX Mid
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Aiming for 1080p 60FPS Ultra BF4, future proof as possible and potential for VR - not OCing.
Does this build achieve that? Anyway to reduce cost? Any tips? I'm reusing old storage and case to save a bit.
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Graphics: GTX1060
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive x2
Case: Thermaltake V3 VL8001W2Z ATX Mid
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Aiming for 1080p 60FPS Ultra BF4, future proof as possible and potential for VR - not OCing.
Does this build achieve that? Anyway to reduce cost? Any tips? I'm reusing old storage and case to save a bit.
hooijdonk17
Member
I hit 4.5 GHz on stock voltage, and 4.8V on +0.1V. Of course, YMMV.. For the sake of erring on the side of caution, let me rephrase that as 4.4-4.5GHz.
Yeah just know to have vsync on in the nvidia control panel and make sure you turn it off in every game. It works fantastically and I do not notice any input lag when I am at the max 144hz refresh rate in Overwatch for instance.
d00d3n
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That looks great. If you can, go for an SSD and one HDD. You'll see marked improvement in boot and launch times with your games and OS on the SSD.
Finally ordered my parts after much procrastination due to not knowing which case to buy:
Intel I5 6600K
CM TX3 Evo HSF
Asus Z170-A motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR 2666mhz
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
In Win 909 Silver
CM Silencio 120mm fans (3)
EVGA Supernova G1 650w PSU
Intel I5 6600K
CM TX3 Evo HSF
Asus Z170-A motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR 2666mhz
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
In Win 909 Silver
CM Silencio 120mm fans (3)
EVGA Supernova G1 650w PSU
Nastrodamous
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Anybody got any suggestions on the safest way to sell some monitors? I can do craigslist but i would imagine who ever wants to buy would like to test it first and I dont want anybody coming into my apartment and i dont want to go in a randos either.
Glass Shark
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After spending literally a week researching dozens of cases, I decided to go with the Thermaltake Suppressor F31 for my new build. Just got it yesterday and I'm really happy. Not too big, but modular and really roomy on the inside. Love that there's enough cable management space behind the motherboard for running tons of cables, but also for mounting full 3.5" hard drives. Being able to remove all the drive cages means there's no worries about the massive GTX 1070 AMP! Extreme and a big radiator in the front.
There's not much coverage of this case out there (compared to others, at least), but I highly recommend it for the price. Very solid build quality, all the features you need, very quiet.
There's not much coverage of this case out there (compared to others, at least), but I highly recommend it for the price. Very solid build quality, all the features you need, very quiet.
i5 sorry. Took a risk on the case so we'll see how that goes.
Just clarifying. At least the case looks really cool! As long as you have good airflow, a case is a case, pick what you like looking at.
Founders is stock nvidia cooling for a shit price, ignore them
Any recommendations for Over-the-Ear headphones besides what's in the OP? I'm currently using these Sennheiser's but they feel so small. I'd like something that has a bigger ear cup on them. Price range $100-$300 but of course i'd rather spend less than more.
I have a pair of Sony MDR-7506 and they are the best I have ever owned. EXCELLENT audio, very comfortable headphones.
super-famicom
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Visit Headphone GAF: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1029724
Do you want open or closed back headphones? I prefer open backed, for the great soundstage they offer, but if you don't want to bother people you may want closed backed phones.
I use the Audio Technica AD900 when gaming. Really comfy for long periods of time and an excellent soundstage. A bit lighter on the bass, but I prefer that.
Would this be a good place to ask for advice about buying a computer off the shelf with minimal upgrades needed, or is this thread strictly about building custom rigs?
I'd like to see if I can nab a decent PC it's ready to go and can handle all blizzard games at High-Ultra settings without too much problem. I hear that isn't terribly high-end these days (like Blizzard's High is another game's low-mid, etc)
I'd like to see if I can nab a decent PC it's ready to go and can handle all blizzard games at High-Ultra settings without too much problem. I hear that isn't terribly high-end these days (like Blizzard's High is another game's low-mid, etc)
Does anyone have an experience with:
Sennheiser Momentum 2.0
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNI44CQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm more concerned with sound quality than I am with active noise cancelation - however it's necessary in my environment.
Sennheiser Momentum 2.0
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNI44CQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm more concerned with sound quality than I am with active noise cancelation - however it's necessary in my environment.
Dr.Horrible
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You should get some feedback on the quality (or lack thereof), but most will remind you how much cheaper it is to do it yourself or that you'll get much better performance for the same money building yourself.
I built my first PC a few months ago thanks to this thread. I'm sure you could do the same.
Yes it is! (But we can also put together a custom rig for cheaper usually).
You have to be careful with lower tier custom PCs because a lot of components are integrated i.e. motherboard and PSU, so upgrading (adding a faster GPU) becomes more of a hassle than building your own.
Dave_6
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Think I'm about to bite the bullet and upgrade my 2013 spec build. Been wanting to get a ultrawide 1440p monitor and I feel like I could be held back by the CPU and RAM when I get a 1080. This is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dave_6/builds/
Think I would go with what is listed in the OP under the enthusiast build:
ASUS Z170-Pro: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016A44XHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I7-6700K: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012M8LXQW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
RAM I'm not sure of; 16GB or 32GB? Any particular brand better than the other?
I'm also not sure if my current CPU cooler would work and if my PSU is enough for a potential 1080...?
Think I would go with what is listed in the OP under the enthusiast build:
ASUS Z170-Pro: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016A44XHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I7-6700K: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012M8LXQW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
RAM I'm not sure of; 16GB or 32GB? Any particular brand better than the other?
I'm also not sure if my current CPU cooler would work and if my PSU is enough for a potential 1080...?
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