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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Definitely the i5 6600k with a z170 mobo and DDR4 2400-300mhz RAM. A great CPU to upgrade to.
Hey friends. My buddy seems to finally be ready to jump into PC gaming once again after his old AMD system failed on him a few years ago. Here are his answers to questions...
Your Current Specs: None
Budget: $1200 for everything (including OS, monitor, kb+mouse etc)
Main Use: Gaming is the big one. Will also be used for typical web stuff like anybody else, but he also mentioned wanting to be able to play around in Unreal 4.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: He wants 60fps at max settings, and the ability to use Unreal 4.
When will you build?: No real deadline.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe. He said don't worry about it now, he can always buy the stuff later... So I put it in now.
Here's what I've come up with so far.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRxcc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRxcc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.91 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($126.89 @ B&H)
Total: $1126.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-17 22:38 EDT-0400
CPU will last more than a while, he likes the idea of a microATX build that can fit on his desk so I went with that. I wanted to go with the Air 240 for the case because he likes white, but the 212 EVO doesn't fit and I didn't know where to go from there. If anyone has any suggestions around that though, it'd be much appreciated. GPU can push current games to or right under 60fps, and it has the monitor and OS included. The only thing not listed there are keyboard and mouse since he can choose those himself with 70 bucks. Also, any extra fans if necessary.
Any suggestions or help are much appreciated!
Your Current Specs: None
Budget: $1200 for everything (including OS, monitor, kb+mouse etc)
Main Use: Gaming is the big one. Will also be used for typical web stuff like anybody else, but he also mentioned wanting to be able to play around in Unreal 4.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: He wants 60fps at max settings, and the ability to use Unreal 4.
When will you build?: No real deadline.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe. He said don't worry about it now, he can always buy the stuff later... So I put it in now.
Here's what I've come up with so far.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRxcc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRxcc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.91 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($126.89 @ B&H)
Total: $1126.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-17 22:38 EDT-0400
CPU will last more than a while, he likes the idea of a microATX build that can fit on his desk so I went with that. I wanted to go with the Air 240 for the case because he likes white, but the 212 EVO doesn't fit and I didn't know where to go from there. If anyone has any suggestions around that though, it'd be much appreciated. GPU can push current games to or right under 60fps, and it has the monitor and OS included. The only thing not listed there are keyboard and mouse since he can choose those himself with 70 bucks. Also, any extra fans if necessary.
Any suggestions or help are much appreciated!
super-famicom
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I'd look into getting DDR4-3000 Ram, this one is the same price as what you had listed
And as for the GPU, the EVGA GTX 1060 SC is only $10 more (there was a $10 rebate on Newegg recently, so it ends up as the same price as the non-SC version) and has a better cooling system. I have this card and the listed monitor, and everything looks and runs great.
Anyone?
Just switched them both over. The only issue I could see coming up is that the superclocked card is out of stock everywhere. I'm not exactly sure how soon he would plan on getting everything, but I switched to that one anyway because of your reasons. Thanks!
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Hey guys, here is my PC.
I can't live with a 500GB HDD anymore. Games are getting so huge nowadays that I'm getting tired of constantly freeing up space to install new titles.
Is it pretty simple to install a new HDD? How about moving all my Steam games over to the new one? Would I need to do that or would I simply need to point all new Steam download to the new drive's directory? Thanks!
Based on my specs above, what would be the best install-and-forget-about drive for me? Another WD 1TB perhaps?
EDIT: Actually, I'm wondering if it might be better to just go with a Samsung 850 EVO, 250GB SSD. It it easy to transfer the OS from my HDD to the new SSD? How about my Steam games? Easy to move one game back and forth between drives? I'm pretty new to this stuff, so pardon my ignorance.
I can't live with a 500GB HDD anymore. Games are getting so huge nowadays that I'm getting tired of constantly freeing up space to install new titles.
Is it pretty simple to install a new HDD? How about moving all my Steam games over to the new one? Would I need to do that or would I simply need to point all new Steam download to the new drive's directory? Thanks!
Based on my specs above, what would be the best install-and-forget-about drive for me? Another WD 1TB perhaps?
EDIT: Actually, I'm wondering if it might be better to just go with a Samsung 850 EVO, 250GB SSD. It it easy to transfer the OS from my HDD to the new SSD? How about my Steam games? Easy to move one game back and forth between drives? I'm pretty new to this stuff, so pardon my ignorance.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Is there no way to build on NCIX with any parts? Even selecting the top tier gives so few options.
http://www.ncix.com/detail/pc-assembly-and-testing-with-6c-7842.htm
Put that in your cart after you add all your parts.
Strafebogey
Member
Waterblocks arrived. Two TXPs going under water.
RandomExpletive
Member
You need to use the permalink given at the top left, that link defaults to everyone's own parts list
I believe theres a tool that you can use to move steam libraries across hard drives, though I've never used it myself. Installing a new drive is easy, as long as you have the room in your case for it
SuperSonic1305
Member
Perfect, Thanks!
EVGA's version of the HB SLI Bridge.
Lmao I love the backdrop
Strafebogey
Member
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
You need to use the permalink given at the top left, that link defaults to everyone's own parts list
I believe theres a tool that you can use to move steam libraries across hard drives, though I've never used it myself. Installing a new drive is easy, as long as you have the room in your case for it
Okay, fixed. Check out the build!
Anyway, decided to go with the Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD. I just wanna know if it'll be tough to move my OS and programs to it? How about my Steam games? Can I move Steam games back and forth between my drives depending on what I'm playing atm?
super-famicom
Member
Just keep an eye on http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/ and sign up for alerts. I was able to get the 1060 SC in the second week of release thanks to that site.
Sniffynose
Member
Just be aware you might need to manually tweak the ram settings and vccio vccsa voltages, I even had to do that with the TridentZ 3200 ram, system is basically identical to your list too. Any ddr4 over 2133mhz is considered overclocked and YMMV depending on the motherboard etc.
I had to NOT pick the XMP Profile, manually set the speed to ddr3200 and manually set the vccio from 0.950 to 1.1 and the vccsa from 1.05 to 1.2v to get it to post and run stable (zero errors after a full 2.5hr run on memtest86 uefi mode)
edit: if you can fit it in your case, don't bother with the Coolermaster 212 evo, I returned the pile of crap because it was not doing much of anything and the section that touches the cpu lid looked like someone sanded it with 100 grit paper. I spent the extra for a Noctua NH-D15, the thing just oozes quality, it's mount is so much better designed and it also cooled my cpu 15! Degrees cooler than the Evo! I ran the new prime95 and maxed at 75c vs 90+ with the Coolermaster.
Xux
Member
How do I know how many fans I need? I picked a case that comes with some for my build (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYnBcc) but I dunno how I'd know it it'll be well ventilated.
Hey, so I'm looking to build a new PC from scratch, pretty much only for gaming. I'm looking to spend around $1k, not counting peripherals and such, just main components. The monitor I currently have is 1920x1080, and I'd like to be able to game comfortably on it for a few years. Right now, my main reason is to play Overwatch, but I'd like it to run battlefield one and games in the near future at at least 60 fps, even if it takes a little overclocking. I'd also like a smaller form factor, like a micro atx system.
Since I haven't built a PC in quite a few years, I've been looking at this build. Is there anything you guys would recommend switching out, or have a better build to recommend? I think I'm set on getting an i5 6500 or 6600 with a 1070 gtx
Since I haven't built a PC in quite a few years, I've been looking at this build. Is there anything you guys would recommend switching out, or have a better build to recommend? I think I'm set on getting an i5 6500 or 6600 with a 1070 gtx
The Shadow
Member
Anyone recommend a modest upgrade from a R9 290? I'm getting way too many random BSOD when video is playing or when I load up a game. I've tried different video drivers, uninstalling f.lux, disabling the internal Intel GPU, etc. Nothing seems to help.
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the performance of my rig overall, just really sick of the BSODs and might as well do a modest GPU upgrade while I get rid of the R9.
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the performance of my rig overall, just really sick of the BSODs and might as well do a modest GPU upgrade while I get rid of the R9.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I need some major help with my PC. It won't start into windows 10 normally right now and I think something happened to the graphics card. I am seeing pink lines on the UEFI BIOS and I'm connected by HDMI through the graphics card
I don't remember how to use the graphics onto CPU and bypass the graphics card, if I plug display adapters into the motherboard nothing comes up
Earlier when I was playing a game the screen just went gray and I had to turn the computer off and now I'm here
I was able to get to windows safe mode 1 time and it came up but I can't get back to it I can't figure out how to boot into it.
I see the windows 10 logo with the swirling dots then the screen goes black.
I don't remember how to use the graphics onto CPU and bypass the graphics card, if I plug display adapters into the motherboard nothing comes up
Earlier when I was playing a game the screen just went gray and I had to turn the computer off and now I'm here
I was able to get to windows safe mode 1 time and it came up but I can't get back to it I can't figure out how to boot into it.
I see the windows 10 logo with the swirling dots then the screen goes black.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Shit, dealing with an annoying DVD drive problem.
I've got Windows 10 and the ASUS DRW-24B1ST disc drive, and I suddenly began experiencing an issue where it wouldn't read any DVDs. I checked both BIOS and Device Manager and the drive isn't listed in either one. The tray still opens and closes when I press the button on my computer, and a light comes up signaling that something is on, but it's nowhere to be found on my computer. What the heck happened?
I've got Windows 10 and the ASUS DRW-24B1ST disc drive, and I suddenly began experiencing an issue where it wouldn't read any DVDs. I checked both BIOS and Device Manager and the drive isn't listed in either one. The tray still opens and closes when I press the button on my computer, and a light comes up signaling that something is on, but it's nowhere to be found on my computer. What the heck happened?
Thanks for the heads up, I'll do exactly that.
Does anyone have any recommendations for microATX cases or heatsinks to go with a Air 240? Want to keep the heatsink cheap since we're looking at a 212 EVO, but I like the Air 240 quite a bit and am curious about what would work well with it. Otherwise, I'd love to hear about other microATX cases!
ehead
Member
I have that build except for the CPU (I got a 6600k) and I'm pretty satisfied with it. The case has enough space for good air ventilation and its pretty silent too. The challenges I experienced while building were putting the PSU inside the case and plugging the fan cables on the motherboard. For the PSU, I had to remove one of the 3.5" HDD brackets first. Cables are pretty much bent but its okay (I think). For the fan cables, I had to remove the top cover of the case to have access to the plugs on the top section of the board. But once everything is set, its all good. Also, the ASUS Strix 1070 is pretty long (330mm), so you have to remove the HDD bracket (the one with the Phanteks name on it). You might notice some sagging, I'm actually thinking of putting rubber in the gap just to align it properly.
Edit: This is what it might look like
Uhhh, I don't know why the earlier link you posted was different. Anyway, disregard this post if its no longer relevant.
You should be able to select onboard or discrete video inside the bios. If you can't get into the bios, try removing your video card. Then, the MB hopefully auto selects onboard video.
If the device does not show up in the bios, it won't appear in Windows. Try using a different sata cable and/or different sata port. if it still doesn't show up, probably a bad drive.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
ugh looks like the graphics card just ate it maybe. i'll try updating the driver and see if that does anything
using integrated graphics now and the computer is working
is there anything i can do with an old graphics card that may or may not work?
it wouldnt let me get to the advanced settings to choose that option for whatever reason. i took the video card out and now its booting into windows 10
is there anything to do with this graphics card other than try to put it back in and see if it works?
using integrated graphics now and the computer is working
is there anything i can do with an old graphics card that may or may not work?
it wouldnt let me get to the advanced settings to choose that option for whatever reason. i took the video card out and now its booting into windows 10
is there anything to do with this graphics card other than try to put it back in and see if it works?
I asked a variation of this before but didn't get any answers.
Is a Haswell i3 sufficient for 1080p/60FPS on medium settings in stuff like Minecraft, the LEGO games, and some older (360-era) AAA titles? Maybe Overwatch? What about some strategy games like Halo Wars? I know they are more CPU-bound. Is the stock cooler sufficient if we don't overclock?
And will an RX 460 or 470 be bottlenecked by it? Is the 4GB version of the 460 worth it over the 2GB, or is it not fast enough to make use of it?
Is a Haswell i3 sufficient for 1080p/60FPS on medium settings in stuff like Minecraft, the LEGO games, and some older (360-era) AAA titles? Maybe Overwatch? What about some strategy games like Halo Wars? I know they are more CPU-bound. Is the stock cooler sufficient if we don't overclock?
And will an RX 460 or 470 be bottlenecked by it? Is the 4GB version of the 460 worth it over the 2GB, or is it not fast enough to make use of it?
In Deus Ex Human Revolution I'm getting a black screen when I switch to 2160p. I'm trying to downsample on a 1080p TV through custom resolution. 1440p works.
Edit: If I switch the game's aspect ration from "auto" to 16:9 I get an image briefly before it goes to a black screen.
Edit: If I switch the game's aspect ration from "auto" to 16:9 I get an image briefly before it goes to a black screen.
Lord Griegous
Member
Cool, thanks! I ended up going with the 3333 dimms due to availability but I gues the same thing applies.
Also, I guess your edit was for another poster?
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i just bought a U2515H and it's arriving tomorrow. i am going to keep my 1080p monitor to use as a second screen. i was going to skip the next generation of cards (GTX 1100/AMD 500) but if my 1070 starts struggling i'll just pick one up when they come out.
Sniffynose
Member
Yeah lol my edit was for someone else, I lost the quote though >_<
The same might apply for the 3333mhz, try the xmp profile first, if it fails to post or reverts back to 2133mhz just put it back to auto, then set the speed to ddr3333 and slowly bump the vccio up and the vccsa, once you hit the sweet spot it will boot no problem and run stable.
Vccio usually only needs a slight bump but vccsa might need a bigger one, both should stay at or below 1.25v ideally since 1.3 is usually the recorded limit for it to be safe on the cpu.
Getting those voltages stable was the most frustrating part of my recent build, once that was set it was smooth sailing lol
Oh and during the process you might have to reset the cmos if you get post failures, it just means the ram sorta booted but not enough to continue so reset the bios and tweak again.
Hopefully all goes well out of the box though you never know haha
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I still have no clue as to what Z170 motherboard to get. The 3/5 reviews scare me off for some of them. Anything for about $150 or less would be nice.
Strafebogey
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Test-run:
Response:
Samsung 950 Pro NVME M2 512GB.
Response:
Samsung 950 Pro NVME M2 512GB.
Asus Z170-A
It's on sale for $129.99 on Amazon right now.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012NH05UW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Lord Griegous
Member
Thanks a million! Will post my experience next week!
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i have the MSI Z170A G43 Plus. it costs £107 here in the UK so should be under $150. can't fault it i'm happy with it. If you want SLI support then get the Z170A Sli Plus (the G43 Plus is Xfire).
looking at PCpart picker there are the highest rated motherboards for under $150:
msi z170a gaming 5
gigabyte ga z170mx gaming 5
asus z170a $138
TatteredHat
Member
At first I just wanted to get a decent and affordable 1440p monitor for my new setup, but I´ve looked around for so long that I´m actually considering just buying an Acer XB271HU. How did I end up here, lol.
Same way that dude looking at a Fractal R5 ended up getting an InWin 909 I'd imagine. lol
V1LÆM
Gold Member
if you think you can do without gsync and 165hz then what about the Dell U2515H? i just bought one and it seems to have a lot of positive reviews. it has 8ms (instead of 4ms) and still has an IPS panel. the Dell is $340 for the 25" or $475 for the 27".
Dead_Pixel
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I'm in the same position as you and have these questions too -- let me know how it works out for you!
TatteredHat
Member
Thanks for the suggestion, but since I´m going with a 1070 in my setup I feel like it´d be a waste not to get a monitor that has a refresh rate over 60Hz. I think that I would rather get a monitor that´ll last me longer, even if it costs me more right now. Might go for the XB270HU instead of the 271, because that one´s like 100 Euros cheaper.
Been there, done that.
You start justifying more and more and more the higher price when you see that the feature set is growing like you want.
Atraveller
Banned
This looks very neat. I have the same case, and the cables that came with my Seasonic G-650 were thick and hard to bend. How do the Noctua fans compare to Fractal's stock fans?Anyone planning an ITX build should really consider custom cables. This is the first time I've used Cablemod's Configurator thing and I'm super pleased with how it turned out.
6700k delidded
Noctua NH-C14s
Asus Strix 1080 OC
Asus Maximus VIII Impact
G.Skill 3600 CAS15
Intel 750 u.2 400GB
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Seasonic 650W Prime Titanium
Fractal Nano S
Also, Asus's 4-pin headers on the gpu are an awesome idea. The bottom case fan is plugged into the GPU, so its fan curve matches the GPU fans.
Just a tip BTW, both NH-D15 and NH-D15s could fit into the case.
Sniffynose
Member
Test-run:
Response:
Samsung 950 Pro NVME M2 512GB.
Lmfao I thought the same when I benched mine the other day, I tested a standard 5400rpm against it and it was like 35 vs 1550 haha! The thing is insane!
Awesome sounds good =)
I don't know where to ask but I need help identifying which part my problem comes from.
So since yesterday watching a video eventually gets me a black screen and windows 10 restarts like I'm just logging in. I see my username and arrives on a new session basically, nothing is open anymore.
No errors, no messages, nothing. So far it's only when watching a video and usually once it has crashed like that it's fine. It just messes up stuff and opening a game makes it stutter as hell so I have to reboot anyway.
Any idea? RAM problem? Please don't be the GPU, shit is expensive.
So since yesterday watching a video eventually gets me a black screen and windows 10 restarts like I'm just logging in. I see my username and arrives on a new session basically, nothing is open anymore.
No errors, no messages, nothing. So far it's only when watching a video and usually once it has crashed like that it's fine. It just messes up stuff and opening a game makes it stutter as hell so I have to reboot anyway.
Any idea? RAM problem? Please don't be the GPU, shit is expensive.
One last final check on new page before my friend goes ahead with their purchase.
thelastcrusader
Banned
What about mouse, OS, keyboard, and monitor?
They're sorting that seperately/using TV I think. They did include the OS in the original build but I've left it out as it is probably cheaper elsewhere as opposed to the store it will be built at.
appaws
Banned
Anyone planning an ITX build should really consider custom cables. This is the first time I've used Cablemod's Configurator thing and I'm super pleased with how it turned out.
6700k delidded
Noctua NH-C14s
Asus Strix 1080 OC
Asus Maximus VIII Impact
G.Skill 3600 CAS15
Intel 750 u.2 400GB
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Seasonic 650W Prime Titanium
Fractal Nano S
Also, Asus's 4-pin headers on the gpu are an awesome idea. The bottom case fan is plugged into the GPU, so its fan curve matches the GPU fans.
That's fabulous! I need to do that...I use extensions, which look great in the front of the case, but in back they are way too bulky and a big mess.
JesseSpeedMan
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Hello
I just wanted to say thank you for providing us with that many informations and pre builds. It is amazing how people spend that much time and effort in posts like this.
You are a hero and deserve a hug.
Greetings from Switzerland.
I just wanted to say thank you for providing us with that many informations and pre builds. It is amazing how people spend that much time and effort in posts like this.
You are a hero and deserve a hug.
Greetings from Switzerland.
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