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ASUS motherboards have serious issues with VR headsets
Ok, thanks so much!
I figure I'd ask you guys.
A friend of mine is currently on a AMD system with a Phenom II X4 955. His main problem is the general system slowness and some audio issues he's been having. He feels it's time to upgrade but he's mostly fine with his gaming performance.
CPU: Phenom II X4 955
Mobo: Doesn't know it but it's an AM3.
RAM: 4GBx2 DDR3 1600 1.5v
GPU: 480 GTX
PSU: 550w Antec Earthwatts(?)
As far as I can tell, I think the best option here is to upgrade his CPU/Mobo to a Haswell/Broadwell i3/i5 solution. I can also give him my old z68 mobo for a path to Sandy/Ivy i7. What's the best choice here? Trying to keep this under $200.
A friend of mine is currently on a AMD system with a Phenom II X4 955. His main problem is the general system slowness and some audio issues he's been having. He feels it's time to upgrade but he's mostly fine with his gaming performance.
CPU: Phenom II X4 955
Mobo: Doesn't know it but it's an AM3.
RAM: 4GBx2 DDR3 1600 1.5v
GPU: 480 GTX
PSU: 550w Antec Earthwatts(?)
As far as I can tell, I think the best option here is to upgrade his CPU/Mobo to a Haswell/Broadwell i3/i5 solution. I can also give him my old z68 mobo for a path to Sandy/Ivy i7. What's the best choice here? Trying to keep this under $200.
Sokka
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What kind of issues?
hey all so im having trouble with my new pc and 4k screen and monitor. basically i have 2 monitors 1 is 4k and 1 is 1080p also i have a 4ktv. So when i hook up my 4k monitor and tv and clone the tv to mimic the monitor, i cant seen to have a 4k signal. So what i want to do is to be able to play on my monitor and have it cloned on my tv all in 4k. am i missing something?
I think of you clone the displays your limited to the lowest res display.
MikeOfAllTrades
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Anyone have any experience with an external sound card or DAC? I don't even know where to start with such a product. I ask, because the onboard sound on my new Asus Z170i is lacking.
Anybody listening to it wouldn't notice a thing, but to me it is a perceivable step back from my previous 9 year old Intel board. It just lacks clarity, the bass doesn't kick anymore, and when it does attempt to kick the rest of the audio has an extremely slight dip in volume. I've played with every possible EQ and Realtek HD Audio setting and am not super pleased. I don't have an amazing audiophile system, but I know my good old Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system is capable of more.
Anybody listening to it wouldn't notice a thing, but to me it is a perceivable step back from my previous 9 year old Intel board. It just lacks clarity, the bass doesn't kick anymore, and when it does attempt to kick the rest of the audio has an extremely slight dip in volume. I've played with every possible EQ and Realtek HD Audio setting and am not super pleased. I don't have an amazing audiophile system, but I know my good old Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system is capable of more.
My Asus z170i gaming seems fine (touch wood)
metareferential
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Depends on what he's after. What kind of games? What kind of performance is he ok with?
He can get your mobo, an i5, and some ram. But for 200, it's hard doing a complete overhaul of a quite old system. That cpu is basically useless today.
MikeOfAllTrades
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Oh wow, I have some reading to do. Thanks!
If in doubt, give us a list of what is in your PC. Most likely there will be three categories
- For the motherboard there will be two power connectors - a big 24 pin one and a smaller 6(?) pin one.
- Then for your GPU there will usually be twin 8 pin connectors (usually set up as 6+2 so you can plug in to 6 or 8 pin GPUs - two of the pins on the end will detach).
- Lastly you'll have power for your drives - probably Sata power connectors so look how many drives you have and you may only need one connector on the PSU for that, it'll probably have several days power connectors on one long cable
Then go over and check any other things you might have missed. Check how many fans you'll be using - if your motherboard doesn't have enough connecters for them, you may want a molex power cable attached to the PSU to power your fans. That's a big chunky connector with four big round holes in it.
I think that's right - people will quickly correct me if I've missed anything. I think listing the main connectors is easier and clearer than just saying to trace everything back - at least gives you something to start from
Mobo- 24pin ATX, 4/8pin CPU power
GPU- 6 or 8 or 6+8 pin PCIE power
HDD/SSD- SATA power, SATA Data to motherboard
metareferential
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Performance is essentially the same. Good choice.
I think he's had problems with the CPU in some games as well as audio issues. Think Civ5 and such. That's what led me to the idea of upgrading CPU/motherboard first.
And yeah, at $200 it is kinda hard to do CPU/Motherboard/RAM upgrade, so I was thinking of reusing the RAM. I think it should be fine since it's DDR3-1600 at 1.5v. He definitely can't do a full system overhaul, so whatever he gets will get accompanied eventually by something like a RX480/950TI/1060.
Aztechnology
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It's really disappointing. I sold my old parts other than my GPU to fund the majority of a new X99 build last Christmas (Those deals). But I've built a ton of PC's over the past decade and have never seen memory channel issues like this. Which is sad because the 5820k is an incredible incredible CPU for me. I really just don't see this as being actual failure of the board though, there is absolutely no indication of why it would have failed. I really do believe it's an issue at the BIOS level, maybe a long term memory support issue or something. It just doesn't seem feasible that these boards could actually have a component failure rate that high across so many of the boards. Unless they all just have a fundamental flaw in their design that's causing this. It's surprised me how little it seems they care to try to root out the problems with it too.
At this point, my recommendation is to steer towards the new Skylake-E processors instead. At least until they figure out if it's a deep seated problem or just Bios level issues.
God bless 950 pro (m.2, no sata cables)
metareferential
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He could get a cpu now, and ram and a gpu later down the line. Maybe a used cpu and he could save something and get more ram.
EDIT: I'd say get some ram right now, he's got 2x2b, add another 2x2 and call it a day (assuming you can do that on that mobo, but I don't see why you couldn't).
SneakyStephan
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Yes that phenom II has to go, I used to have one too and it's godawful for gaming and has been for years now.
If he can find a second hand i5 2500k (or ivy i5) or 2600k for cheap then that would be a massive upgrade for him.
Otherwise a skylake mobo with i3 6100 and some ddr4 ram if he's on a tight budget I guess, at least he'll have an upgrade path to an i5 or i7 later.
Don't get more ram before you decide what cpu to get, more ram won't do anything at all and if he wants to go skylake for his upgrade then he'll need ddr4 anyhow so he wasted his money.
Cpu upgrades are expensive these days, you pretty much just have to suck it up and pay. Thank amd for not releasing any useable cpus since 2009
BTW the general system slowness is likely due to his hard drive if he's bought that hard drive at the same time as that phenom II
A new hard drive (or an ssd, but he's on a budget so yeah) would get rid of that
BarrelMakingPenguin
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I purchased an X51 as a way of dipping my toes into PC games. I played games on consoles my entire life and know nothing about PC components and how everything works together in terms of game performance.
The announcements of iterations on PS4 and Xbox One hardware has me thinking it is time to lean harder into playing games on PC. In turn, I want to beef up my current set-up to serve as my main for games and something that will outclass PS4 and Xbox One hardware.
For the time being, I'm just looking to run games as close to 60fps as possible in 1080p on one monitor.
I have the R1 model of X51 with the following specs:
*CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
*GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 (I do have a 970 that I purchased after some said they had some luck with it in an X51 but it would overheat on me)
*RAM: 16 GB
*Motherboard: Having trouble finding the exact answer but I believe the WPTG2 that came with the R1 model.
*OS: Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit
I know I'll need to get a bigger case and power supply. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction for what I'll require and if there are any other upgrades that would make sense as far as moving the parts I have to a new case. I'd like for a case that allows easy upgrades in the future if possible.
The announcements of iterations on PS4 and Xbox One hardware has me thinking it is time to lean harder into playing games on PC. In turn, I want to beef up my current set-up to serve as my main for games and something that will outclass PS4 and Xbox One hardware.
For the time being, I'm just looking to run games as close to 60fps as possible in 1080p on one monitor.
I have the R1 model of X51 with the following specs:
*CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
*GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 (I do have a 970 that I purchased after some said they had some luck with it in an X51 but it would overheat on me)
*RAM: 16 GB
*Motherboard: Having trouble finding the exact answer but I believe the WPTG2 that came with the R1 model.
*OS: Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit
I know I'll need to get a bigger case and power supply. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction for what I'll require and if there are any other upgrades that would make sense as far as moving the parts I have to a new case. I'd like for a case that allows easy upgrades in the future if possible.
Yeah I think the skylake option seems more like a possibility. Sandy (Motherboard is stuck on it) probably only has 3 or so years left and that's a full system upgrade after that. Skylake i3 would probably last him 3 years as well before the upgrade but he has an option there to go with an i7 for another 3 years.
Both are really good options to what he has. And yes, he did mention the HDD being old so that's probably looking at an upgrade too. He's kinda stuck on that one for a bit more.
Thanks. I'll talk to him about his options later tonight.
Lockjaw333
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Upgrading from a 2500k Sandy build to a 6600k build. Have a question.
Can I just plug my ssd with current windows 10 install in, or do I need to do a fresh install?
Also what's the best way to do fresh install, I have a copy of windows 7 and 10 was the free upgrade. Can I make a win 10 usb boot drive or something?
Also still trying to decide on a mobo, what's the current popular pick for lga 1151 builds?
Can I just plug my ssd with current windows 10 install in, or do I need to do a fresh install?
Also what's the best way to do fresh install, I have a copy of windows 7 and 10 was the free upgrade. Can I make a win 10 usb boot drive or something?
Also still trying to decide on a mobo, what's the current popular pick for lga 1151 builds?
ndawgdrake
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Used 25/600k oced, used 970 would do the trick. But it may be slightly over his budget.
Bloodember
Member
Just install Windows 10 (using a usb drive) and use your Windows 7 key.
I forgot to install the mobo standoffs, is that s huge deal? It seems very solidly screwed into the case, so imagine I'm ok. Also, do I plug the cable on the left, which is from the case, into the PSU plug on the right? Can't tell what it does (s340 case) but it would mean a 2 prong into the 4 prong female part:
http://imgur.com/4ViHQ9q
Everyone here has been so helpful!
http://imgur.com/4ViHQ9q
Everyone here has been so helpful!
littleworm
Member
I mean sure if you don't mind killing your motherboard and setting your PC on fire, or explosions.
Yes, put the standoffs in.
Does the 340 have them already installed? Reading that this may be the case.
opticalmace
Member
Most usually have some (but not necessarily all) installed. Did you install the motherboard? You should be able to tell if you have them in or not. The motherboard will be raised, and the screws will be snug (as in, they're actually screwed into something).
But yeah, standoffs are important.
Aztechnology
Member
#1 common mistake for new builders. They then short out their motherboards. Make sure you put in standoffs if the case didn't already have them pre-installed.
Beerman462
Member
The wait for these GPUs to get in stock at or near MSRP is literally killing me.
Is your MB screwed down like this?
If not some cases have bumps like this
If your MB isn't attached to either then redo it.
If your even a little unsure redo it or you could waste a lot of money.
Although if the rear I/O panel is lining up I don't see how it could be installed wrong either.
Is your MB screwed down like this?
If not some cases have bumps like this
If your MB isn't attached to either then redo it.
If your even a little unsure redo it or you could waste a lot of money.
Although if the rear I/O panel is lining up I don't see how it could be installed wrong either.
Yes, I screwed it in with the included black screws, is this all I need? There is one (maybe two) open holes though.
its gonna be great :3, i did the same upgrade with 3000 ddr4 and got 10-25% more fps with a 390. my 6700k runs with 1.180 voltage, only draws 65watt and hits 55C max
The wait for these GPUs to get in stock at or near MSRP is literally killing me.
Is your MB screwed down like this?
If not some cases have bumps like this
If your MB isn't attached to either then redo it.
If your even a little unsure redo it or you could waste a lot of money.
Although if the rear I/O panel is lining up I don't see how it could be installed wrong either.
Yeah, it all lines up. I think I misinterpreted and the standoffs are pre installed.
This is probably a stupid question and I feel like an idiot. I'm finally building my rig and it's been coming together pretty well (outside of the damn heat sink). I have all of the cabling done and all I have to install is the GPU then I'm done with the hardware side. However I just realized I bought two aftermarket fans that I didn't install. My case has two stock fans, one in the front and one in the back but I was wondering if you guys think I should undo the cables and remove the mobo to swap out the back fan as it doesn't look like I can swap out the front one. I would be able to put two fans on the side panel but the heat sink is so big that it all wouldn't fit. Even though my GPU has a slight factory OC, I don't plan to overclock anything just yet.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Edit: maybe I should just keep going and keep an eye on the temp for a little while?
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Edit: maybe I should just keep going and keep an eye on the temp for a little while?
Take a pic of the front, you can change it. Most likely the front can be pried off safely. And yes switch them out.
opticalmace
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I like to mount the cooler before putting the motherboard in the case. Single blob, yes, not too big (maybe the size of a pea ish).
Looking for thoughts on this list, namely have a few questions:
1) How hard is it to learn how to install water cooling? Haven't done it before and kinda scared. I've built PCs since I was 13 (almost 30 now).
2) Anyone use things like eCollegePC to have someone build your PC for you? related to above, wouldn't mind if someone just installed the watercooling/built the PC for me.
3) Should I move off the TitanX for the 1080? just not sure..
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMGLJV
1) How hard is it to learn how to install water cooling? Haven't done it before and kinda scared. I've built PCs since I was 13 (almost 30 now).
2) Anyone use things like eCollegePC to have someone build your PC for you? related to above, wouldn't mind if someone just installed the watercooling/built the PC for me.
3) Should I move off the TitanX for the 1080? just not sure..
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMGLJV
1) Are more easy to install than the larger heatsinks. Don't have to worry about things, like screws, being block.
2) No clue
3) Not worth it for a 20% increase unless you just want to have the best and money is not a problem.
I was afraid someone would suggest I do that heh.
Unfortunately I swapped phones not too long ago and don't remember my minus account info to host the pictures. My old phone (with the login info) is dead and won't be booting up anytime soon. So hopefully these links to my one drive works out.
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AobdMgaPh7IJqKlFYUsObLei9WyEmQ
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AobdMgaPh7IJqKlFYUsObLei9WyEmQ
It does look like I may be able to mount a fan or two to the top of the case, is this normal?
Use imgur, it loads faster heh. But the front should be able to come off. Mine is, it just uses pegs to lock in.
I assume that is the back. It isn't much of a hassle to unplug and take out the mobo.
What does the front look like?
That's actually the front. There is a front plate that doesn't look to come off, instead there are vents on the side where air comes in.
I don't even think you need to take off the front. Can you see the screws in the holes?
No and part of it is tucked behind the SSD bays.
Here are a couple more pics where I tried to get in closer to the front fan
https://imgur.com/a/n4eKE
Is there any reason I shouldn't replace the back fan and not install one on the top of the case or would that disrupt air flow? I see plugs for 3 fans.
Aztechnology
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I can no longer post with 4 dimms on my X99a SLI Plus board after 6 months (5820k). Only two. I've tried everything I can think of outside of voltage testing. Seems to be pretty common with X99 boards as there's an inordinate amount of reviews and forums topics about these boards. Maybe it's unique to 2011-V3 though. It seems insane the failure rate. I have to send mine in for RMA and likely be without a computer for a few weeks to get a refurbished board
Any thoughts?
Here is my forum thread . Sounds to me I'll probably just have to RMA the board, but I can't help but to feel it's a BIOS issue. I just can't imagine all of these boards DIMM slots are failing or the memory controllers of the CPU's are failing. The forums are filled with people having the same issues.
Even though I had tested each stick of my ram for hours on Memtest86, and none had showed any issues. They were also compatible according to MSI and worked for 6 months. I decided to just try some random PNY 2400mhz Anarchy Ram that aren't even on the compatibility list at MSI from my local Best Buy (I had a Gift Card). I tried 2 sticks of 8gb posted. Then switched to 4x8GB and posted again, restarted several times to make sure. For reference I bought a bundle with this Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB kit. I have to update the MSI forum and let them know as well.
Damn. What if I just swap out the back fan? It doesn't look like I have the right tools to remove the front panel to remove the front fan.
Edit:
Nevermind the fan won't fit on the back of the case lol so it looks like I have no choice but to use the stock fans. I even asked about that at the store when the guy suggested these fans over what I was originally going to pick.
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