zorlaczerohero
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Can anyone give me the best places in the US to order PC parts. I have a friend over there who wants me to walk him through building a system. I live in Australia so don't know of many places in the USA.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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super-famicom
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http://pcpartpicker.com
You can choose the parts and check out a list of vendors selling them.
For example, here's my build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LBHNN
Amazon & Newegg. If you want to head into watercooling Performance-PCS and Modmymods
Quick question before I do somethign I'll regret.
I've bought a bigger SSD for my OS+Work applications and I'm doing a clean install this evening(and upgrading to Windows 10 before the free period expires) However, my Steam library is on a different drive and I was wondering if there are any easy ways for Steam to recognize the library again once I do my re-install?
I've bought a bigger SSD for my OS+Work applications and I'm doing a clean install this evening(and upgrading to Windows 10 before the free period expires) However, my Steam library is on a different drive and I was wondering if there are any easy ways for Steam to recognize the library again once I do my re-install?
Atraveller
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A chance to upgrade is finally coming up.
Say if I change my MB+CPU+RAM, do I need to reinstall my Windows (non-OEM version)?
Also, Hyper 212x is not good enough for 6700K OC right?
Say if I change my MB+CPU+RAM, do I need to reinstall my Windows (non-OEM version)?
Also, Hyper 212x is not good enough for 6700K OC right?
In Steam, just select the download folder where the games are on the HDD.
Ahh, so it's that simple. That's a relief. Thanks!
How many people around here are using an aftermarket sound card? I've decided to ditch my old £20 2.1 logitech speakers in favour of my stereo/better speakers to get more use out of them and would quite like to take advantage of this stuff. Reaaally tempted by that Creative SB Z
Ok so I've been playing with my new Acer XG270HU. Toms Hardware and TFT central have completely different settings for their calibration tests, which isn't helpful.
Games seem to look great but the desktop is my main concern. Whites seem super bright and even washed out against the background. For example the manila folders of Windows desktop icons are garishly white instead of that beige colour.
The window color calibration tool doesn't seem to work, when I reach the end of the wizard it gives me an error, saying that it can't save the configuration due to unknown element or something like that. I've tried googling solutions with no luck.
Any tips?
Games seem to look great but the desktop is my main concern. Whites seem super bright and even washed out against the background. For example the manila folders of Windows desktop icons are garishly white instead of that beige colour.
The window color calibration tool doesn't seem to work, when I reach the end of the wizard it gives me an error, saying that it can't save the configuration due to unknown element or something like that. I've tried googling solutions with no luck.
Any tips?
my win 10 wasnt activated anymore after upgrading. i went back to stock after trying oc with a very similar cooler, temps were 15c higher and powerdraw went from 65 to 90-100 watt because of the increases voltage. its good enough with 4200 turbo :3
Lockjaw333
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Buy a colorimeter. Only way to really make sure you are getting proper calibration.
I recommend an X-rite Colormunki Display, but they run ~ $125-150. Spyder5 express is also a good tool and can be found closer to $100.
First off though, make sure you have the right RGB levels set in your graphics driver. For Nvidia cards, the option is found in "Change Resolution" in the nvidia control panel. You want it set to "full"...seems like from the "washed out" description you gave that you could be using "limited".
hooijdonk17
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I was going to order an RX 480 from Amazon but they seem to charge tax for shipping to IL? Any other sites have it in stock at MSRP perchance?
ffejeromdiks
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Friend of my dad wants me to put together a pc for him, but he explicitly asked me to go AMD only, which I'm almost completely unfamiliar with, not really sure which to go with.
We're going for a VR recommended spec build with a budget of just over 1k
I see that the RX-480 is what's on fire at the moment for the GPU and seems like the best bang for his buck, but what about the CPU? Any particular CPU-MOBO combination that is unanimously preferred for mid-range AMD builds?
We're going for a VR recommended spec build with a budget of just over 1k
I see that the RX-480 is what's on fire at the moment for the GPU and seems like the best bang for his buck, but what about the CPU? Any particular CPU-MOBO combination that is unanimously preferred for mid-range AMD builds?
The 1070 is way better for VR and will last you a lot longer. The 480 is more or less in line with the 970/980 from last year and is entry level for VR and the 1070 is between 40-60% better. I think you can fit it into a 1k build.
CPU - i5-6600k ~ $250
GPU - GTX 1070 ~ $430
leaves you with about $300-400 for the rest.
EDIT: dang... i didn't see AMD only - honestly don't see why he should go AMD only... that'd be ok for GPU, but most people here recommend an Intel CPU because they are much better.
hooijdonk17
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Grab the FX 8300 chip, an EVO 212 cooler, a decent 970 mainboard with 6+2 (or better) phases and heatsinks, crank it up to 4.4GHz and enjoy. It will be good bang for the buck, expecially with the RX 480.
FX 8300 - $119
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3P - $69
RX 480 8GB - $239
$430 total inc mainboard. Leaves you with a great budget for a nice freesync monitor or a VR headset.
Atraveller
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Thanks for the answer, I could deactivate windows and reactivate it later. As for the cooler, I guess I'm going with NH-D15S.
Try this on for size. The rx480 will be totally fine running VR.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($60.59 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $594.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 08:19 EDT-0400
$600+ ~$250 for the RX480 puts you in at $950.
Side question... Your dad own AMD stock? lol
Aztechnology
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No price included in the build list.
I got the Hyper 212 EVO and the guy said it would be good for my 6700K and give me room to OC as well. I'll see if I can get some Temps tonight if you want.
Jezbollah
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I would wait until RX480 benchmarks are out (I don't think they are at the moment - happy to be corrected).
lordfuzzybutt
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The BX200 is pretty shit. Better to stick to MX200 or BX100.
The reviews have been out since 29th of June.
How much cheaper are you talking about here?
TatteredHat
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Really the only pro for the 970 would be that it's cheaper, if you get a non-reference RX480 it'll be the better option in every way. Plus the difference will likely only increase as the RX480 gets better driver optimization. If it's only a bit cheaper then just wait for a solid AIB RX480, it's a lot more future proof.
Thanks for the reply, but there's no way I'm spending that much.
It's hard to tell how much of it is just getting used to a new monitor and how much is the configuration itself. DOOM for example on one hand looks amazing at the higher res, but certain things just look different and it's irritating not knowing why exactly. The imps fire ball things for example are super white and bright, whereas before they looked more like fire.
hooijdonk17
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There is absolutely no pro whatsoever in getting a 970 over an RX 480 as of today. None, whatsoever.
about 300 SEK, ~$35
oh right, the future. assume I'm 5. what's an AIB?
edgier design
Atraveller
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I would like that, thank you. I used my 212 on a non-OC CPU because it's much quieter than Intel's stock cooler, I have no idea how it would perform in real world OC situation.
Ulysses 31
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Reaffirming your allegiance with team Nvidia? >.>
turns out I was looking at one
gonna go with the RX480
I have one more question
I'm gonna put two 3TB drives in RAID 1. WD Reds are recommended for this, no?
alternatively, if I just get two drives and copy data I want to backup whenever, what drives would be good for that?
hooijdonk17
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What's the purpose of that RAID 1 array? Reds are recommanded for NAS usage.
to be honest I'm not sure
I just realized I can copy data manually when I need to backup
so I guess my question changes to "what are good 3TB drives?"
EDIT: I'll probably go with Reds anyway, from what I can tell they're reliable with low cost per GB
hooijdonk17
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Whatever you do don't get Toshiba drives. 2 3TB duds in a year. Never again.
Wag
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I have an old P67 motherboard I'm going to use to build a friend a 2500k setup. It had bent CPU pins- I took it to jewelry repair and they unbent the pins (still looked bent, but they did a better job than I ever could).
I was surprised to find that it actually posted after. But still has a problem, it won't post in dual-channel mode, only works with ram sticks in slots 1+2. Is this because some of the pins are still bent? I doubt dual channel or single channel matters very much for every day use, but is there any way to fix this other than unbending the pins? I'm afraid to mess with it more because I might do more damage to it.
I was surprised to find that it actually posted after. But still has a problem, it won't post in dual-channel mode, only works with ram sticks in slots 1+2. Is this because some of the pins are still bent? I doubt dual channel or single channel matters very much for every day use, but is there any way to fix this other than unbending the pins? I'm afraid to mess with it more because I might do more damage to it.
Also, just to clarify, RAID is not a backup solution, it is purely a temporary redundancy solution, additonally, backing up (presumably) important data to another drive in the same machine is not a backup solution. It should be either another device i.e. a nas/external hard drive that you keep elsewhere, or an off site storage repository of which there are many to choose from. (in a ideal world, you would have a copy on a nas/external hard drive AND an offsite backup copy of the same data)
edit: to answer your question, HGST drives are very reliable in the larger disk sizes.
Lockjaw333
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It sounds like you are using mismatched rgb levels. Are you using hdmi? Nvidia control panel will set it to limited which will result in a mismatch and washed out display (i.e. gray blacks).
I happen to have a spyder 4 colorimeter I am not using (I use the colormunki primarily ) if you're interested I'd part with it for cheap. PM me if you are interested. You can pair it with free displaycal software for excellent calibration. I can walk you throught how to do it.
Different coolers, different base clocks, plus MSI and EVGA offer differing warranties. The MSI Gaming X will have higher base clock, leading to slight, but barely noticeable framerates over the others. Unless you have an mITX build, go for either the EVGA SC or the MSI Gaming X since the cooling will be better on those compared to the Aero.
I have a miniITX case (BitFenix Prodigy), but PCPartPicker says "The BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case supports video cards up to 317mm long, but video cards over 177mm may block drive bays. Since the MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card is 279mm long, some drive bays may not be usable." which is fine?
Am I basically looking at spending an extra £40-50 just to increase framerate but a very slight amount? Or are there other benefits to having a better cooler?
pottymouth
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You could always rent the calibration tools and software from a photography/lens rental place. I used lensrental.com and it only cost me $38 for a weekend with the gear(I did have free shipping though).
Bloodember
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The benefits of a better cooler is better temps for your card and OC capabilities. As for your case, open it up and measure.
I already backup some of my more important files via MEGA etc, important data is already safe. I just wanted to extend some of that to my larger collection of files.
I'll consider just getting an(other) external drive instead of an extra internal.
Thanks for all the education!
So I bumped the CPU ratio of my 6600K down to 44 from 45 (due to Prime95 errors on my 4th core when pumping even 1.33v) and ran Prime95 overnight with my CPU set at stock voltage and 4.4... No errors. Man, overclocking is so weird. Definitely don't care enough to keep testing and find a stable 4.5 voltage setup, as there is no way in hell a 6600K at 4.4ghz is going to be a gaming bottleneck for quite a while.
First time messing with individually sleeved cables + combs. I think I did a pretty whack job, imagined it would be easier to make it look pretty <_<
Any tips on how to properly use these combs? Do I need more than two per cable? Replaced them multiple times but to no satisfying avail.
Any tips on how to properly use these combs? Do I need more than two per cable? Replaced them multiple times but to no satisfying avail.
Well, I say the EVGA SC and the Gaming X have better coolers, but that mostly applies to traditional cases since air from those is pushed around the bigger ATX cases and leads to generally better temperatures. In the case of the Aero, which has a blower style cooler, air is pushed through the back of the card and expelled out the case, which may be more ideal for small ITX cases likes yours for better temperatures, although the card itself will be hotter compared to a non-blower cooler card. I believe that's the idea behind going with blower cards, someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I have no experience with ITX cases.
Either way, since you do have a mITX case, than the Aero is a viable option after all.
No worries, just to give my reasoning is that an additional internal drive to backup to might sound like a good idea, the issue is that if your house burns down, your computer gets a virus, your psu explodes etc you are in no way better off having that 2nd internal drive, if you do go down the route of having an external hard drive, make sure you are unplugging it when it is not in use!
I never overclocked my 7870 or anything, I just don't want to pay a premium for something I'm not going to bother with.
Bloodember
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I never overclock my gpu's either, but I always get one with a custom cooler, the cooling is more than worth the extra money.
He has a Bitfenix Prodigy, which has a large grate where the GPU would be, there's no need to limit him to a blower style cooler. (Also comes with an intake and exhaust fan in pretty much ideal positions.)
If you only have two internal drives, you can use up to the maximum length specified. Benefits include: better temperatures, less noise, maybe a higher overclock ceiling (if you win the silicon lottery.)
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