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I see, do you have different partitions?
Or different hard drives installed?
If C: is only on one harddrive you only need to reformat the C: drive and reinstall Windows.

I have two hard drives. One is an SSD with Windows on it. The other is a 7200rpm hard drive with mostly games from steam.
 
I have two hard drives. One is an SSD with Windows on it. The other is a 7200rpm hard drive with mostly games from steam.

Okay, just re-format the SSD then, just power off the 2nd HDD with your data on it.
Should go smoothly with the Windows 10 installer.
Have you bought Windows 10 or you did the upgrade fromvWiIndows 7 / 8 to Windows 10?
 
Okay, just re-format the SSD then, just power off the 2nd HDD with your data on it.
Should go smoothly with the Windows 10 installer.
Have you bought Windows 10 or you did the upgrade from WIndows 7 / 8 to Windows 10?

I bought it. Thanks for the help. Just something I might do in the future, but not yet.
 

Vuze

Member
Hm, no worthwhile 1TB SSD Primeday deals it seems? :v

E: Damn, 160$ for 960GB on amazon.com. Same model is like 220€ here. jelly
Probably not worth the import trouble though.
 
Will an SSD improve game performance ( not including loading times)?

Could I also add this to my current system, which already has a HDD and SSD, and could I just copy and paste my steam folder with all its content to it?
 

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
Will an SSD improve game performance ( not including loading times)?

i didn't notice a huge difference in game performance when i got an ssd. the most noticeable thing by far is loading times. if anything maybe less texture pop in but i don't know. even if it doesn't offer much better game performance you should still get an ssd. the only reason you should have HDD's these days is if you want a lot of cheap storage or just something to stick in your computer until you can save up for an SSD. prices are getting lower and lower all the time.
 
Will an SSD improve game performance ( not including loading times)?

Could I also add this to my current system, which already has a HDD and SSD, and could I just copy and paste my steam folder with all its content to it?

Naah, an SSD for anything other than the OS partition is a huge money sink IMO. It's great for speeding up the OS in general but for games, not so much.
 

AlanOC91

Member
Hey guys.

I've upgraded to a 6700k/Hero VIII over my FX8350/990 R2.0 combo and now some games are crashing a lot. Windows has been reinstalled.

Dark Souls 3 is the main one. I've put 50 hours into it on the old specs and it never crashed once. Crashed at least 10 times on the new specs with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_RESET messages. FFXIV has done it once and one or two other games have done it. It's a very hard crash that takes about 5 minutes to recover from.

I thought it was my MSI Afterburner OC at first but I restarted my PC, had afterburner completely off and Dark Souls 3 still crashed with the above message. It's not an instant crash. It could do it after 2 mins or 60 mins.

Updated my 980ti drivers and that didn't help either.

Any ideas guys? Upgrading specs was supposed to be a good thing but so far it's only been a negative for me.
 

Dmax3901

Member
Has anyone had the following error when running the color calibration wizard on windows 10?

I get to the end and it says it can't save the configuration due to 'an unknown element'.

Googling has not been too helpful. I have an AMD card.
 
Which 1440p monitor is currently best to get right now with G-Sync enabled?

Asus PG279Q Or Acer Predator XB271HU

The quality of the panels themselves is going to be nearly identical. So what it really comes down to is the feature set and refresh rate. The difference between 144/165 to put it frankly is not noticeable. So I would just go with whichever you can get a better deal on. They are both amazing monitors.

Also check out the Acer XB270HU which is the earlier gen of the 271 but virtually identical aside from the additional 21hz and design.
 
The quality of the panels themselves is going to be nearly identical. So what it really comes down to is the feature set and refresh rate. The difference between 144/165 to put it frankly is not noticeable. So I would just go with whichever you can get a better deal on. They are both amazing monitors.

Also check out the Acer XB270HU which is the earlier gen of the 271 but virtually identical aside from the additional 21hz and design.
PG279Q and XB271HU uses the same panel, but people say the QA on Acer's is better.

The difference between XB271HU and XB270HU is larger than you described. They use different panels and different G-Sync modules. And XB271HU has HDMI input.
 

knitoe

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Hey guys.

I've upgraded to a 6700k/Hero VIII over my FX8350/990 R2.0 combo and now some games are crashing a lot. Windows has been reinstalled.

Dark Souls 3 is the main one. I've put 50 hours into it on the old specs and it never crashed once. Crashed at least 10 times on the new specs with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_RESET messages. FFXIV has done it once and one or two other games have done it. It's a very hard crash that takes about 5 minutes to recover from.

I thought it was my MSI Afterburner OC at first but I restarted my PC, had afterburner completely off and Dark Souls 3 still crashed with the above message. It's not an instant crash. It could do it after 2 mins or 60 mins.

Updated my 980ti drivers and that didn't help either.

Any ideas guys? Upgrading specs was supposed to be a good thing but so far it's only been a negative for me.

Try reinstalling the video drivers with the custom > clean option. If the game still crashes, are your CPU and/or GPU OC, by user or from the factory? If yes, run them at the normal stock spec speeds.
 
PG279Q and XB271HU uses the same panel, but people say the QA on Acer's is better.

The difference between XB271HU and XB270HU is larger than you described. They use different panels and different G-Sync modules. And XB271HU has HDMI input.

The PG279Q, Asus MG279Q and Acer XB270HU all use the same panel. So going by what you said the XB271HU does as well, then you say it doesn't?

Anyway in actual usage they are nearly idenrical panels across the board. I'm not sure about the Gsync differences though, what changes between the 270 to 271?

HDMI I guess is nice if they have a console or something.
 
The PG279Q, Asus MG279Q and Acer XB270HU all use the same panel. So going by what you said the XB271HU does as well, then you say it doesn't?

Anyway in actual usage they are nearly idenrical panels across the board. I'm not sure about the Gsync differences though, what changes between the 270 to 271?

HDMI I guess is nice if they have a console or something.
PG279Q = XB271HU, 270HU uses an older panel.

The input part changed, AFAIK past G-Sync monitors don't support anything other than DP.
 
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg279q.htm

Both the PG279Q and MG279Q use the 8bit panel that the XB270HU uses. Only the XB271HU uses a 10bit panel I guess.
From the review you linked.
This is a new panel that we've not seen in any screen before. Early reports and some other reviews have wrongly stated that the screen is using the same M270DAN02.3 panel as the similarly spec'd Acer XB270HU and Asus MG279Q. That isn't right though, and isn't really logical given that this is a new borderless / frameless style panel as well. We expect to see this new panel used in the forthcoming Acer XB271HU when that's released too.
 

jonno394

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A few SSD on offer via Prime day deals. Torn between the Samsung Evo 750 500GB and Sandisk Ultra 2 480GB. Looking at benchmarks, the former is generally better but apparently has much lower durability compared to the latter?

Should I go with the Samsung?
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
I need to build a pair of very low budget PCs for friends - Browser machines, no more.
Is the smartest CPU choice still a i3? It seems pretty strange to spend 120€ on a browsing CPU.
Does AMD offer something better in the low-range cpu market, that still has integrated graphics?
Or i should just ebay some 2nd\3rd gen i5s for 100 bucks?
 
I need to build a pair of very low budget PCs for friends - Browser machines, no more.
Is the smartest CPU choice still a i3? It seems pretty strange to spend 120€ on a browsing CPU.
Does AMD offer something better in the low-range cpu market, that still has integrated graphics?
Or i should just ebay some 2nd\3rd gen i5s for 100 bucks?

Something like this maybe?

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16819113282

What exactly are they using the computer for? Is it purely just browsing?
 

petran79

Banned
I have two hard drives. One is an SSD with Windows on it. The other is a 7200rpm hard drive with mostly games from steam.

I did the same thing as you. Technician who installed board and drivers said there was no need to format or reinstall Windows 10. Everything remains as before.
Unfortunately WinXP partition is useless since there are no XP drivers for the z97 board

While Ubuntu recognized new motherboard instantly.
 
I need to build a pair of very low budget PCs for friends - Browser machines, no more.
Is the smartest CPU choice still a i3? It seems pretty strange to spend 120€ on a browsing CPU.
Does AMD offer something better in the low-range cpu market, that still has integrated graphics?
Or i should just ebay some 2nd\3rd gen i5s for 100 bucks?

AMD has excellent very cheap FM2 APUs that will MORE THAN do the job for a browser PC. The A6 5400K can be had for $35 and it's an insane value for next to nothing. FWIW I'd rather have a Richland APU for power management improvements so the A4 7300 for $39 would be my goto choice.
 

Maloney

Member
Ok, so please don't laugh at me....

I'm no PC builder and I last built a PC many moons ago. I sometimes flirt with this thread and dream of building an super gaming PC, but the reality is, I don't have the cash to justify on a whole new rig.

My existing PC has a Core 2 Quad Q6600 at 2.4ghz and 4gb of RAM. I am not at home at the moment and can't remember the motherboard.

Whilst reading the No Mans Sky thread it got me thinking anout buying it on PC, which in turn lead me to thinking maybe an RX480 might help? I could find £200 to fund it.

I will only be playing in 1080p and I thought I might get a smoother experience than on the PS4.

My questions are:
  • Will an RX480 even work with my motherboard (I realise you don't know what it is, but generally speaking) do I need some new fandangled modern motherboard?
  • Even if I can put an RX480 in, am I just wasting my time, will the processor be a bottle neck?
  • I can upgrade the RAM fairly painlessly, I assume that would help?
  • Should I just quit dreaming and sob quietly in the corner?

Your advice will (hopefully) be greatly appreciated.
 
My questions are:
  • Will an RX480 even work with my motherboard (I realise you don't know what it is, but generally speaking) do I need some new fandangled modern motherboard?
  • Even if I can put an RX480 in, am I just wasting my time, will the processor be a bottle neck?
  • I can upgrade the RAM fairly painlessly, I assume that would help?
  • Should I just quit dreaming and sob quietly in the corner?

Your advice will (hopefully) be greatly appreciated.

The RX 480 will work with any PCIe compliant mainboard, you are fine on that front.
The Q6600 is a pretty old CPU, largely comparable to the FX 4100 in performance. It will certainly be the bottleneck in all your gaming experiences. However, a mild overclock on that CPU to 3.2GHz+ will ensure that you should achieve 1080p/30fps regardless. Just do not expect to do smooth 1080p/60fps, 1440p or VR stuff. Alternatively, get on eBay and buy a used LGA775 Xeon CPU for dirt cheap, overclock it to 4.2GHz and enjoy smooth 1080p/60 gaming.
You already have 8GB RAM, more of that would be excessive and you should upgrade the CPU/Mainboard before that.
Do not sob, join the red rebellion. #betterwithred
 

amardilo

Member
I just bought a PC. It's going to be my first build since 2002 (and that already had the motherboard, CPU and fan attached). I'm kind of worried about putting it together and messing some part up.

Another really bad thing is I ordered an ASUS Strix 1070 and it's not in stock. No idea how long that will take to arrive so I'll have to use integrated graphics until then. The mouse is also out of stock but I have a budget MS mouse from 2006 I can use until then.

Anyway here is what I bought and now am waiting on arriving:
PCPartPicker part list
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-WT 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan
Keyboard: Ducky ONE Wired Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Zowie FK1 Wired Optical Mouse

I went for a i7 and 16GB of RAM as I'm planning on using it to allow me to work from home (we have loads of Virtual Machines so having more cores and RAM is better for me as I can run multiple VMs like I do at work).

Really hoping this is all good enough to power the games I'm planning on getting at 1440p (it's the monitor I already have) at 60fps such as Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, Forza Horizon 3, Dawn of War 3, Civ VI and Gears of War 4.
 
Ok, so please don't laugh at me....

I'm no PC builder and I last built a PC many moons ago. I sometimes flirt with this thread and dream of building an super gaming PC, but the reality is, I don't have the cash to justify on a whole new rig.

My existing PC has a Core 2 Quad Q6600 at 2.4ghz and 4gb of RAM. I am not at home at the moment and can't remember the motherboard.

Whilst reading the No Mans Sky thread it got me thinking anout buying it on PC, which in turn lead me to thinking maybe an RX480 might help? I could find £200 to fund it.

I will only be playing in 1080p and I thought I might get a smoother experience than on the PS4.

My questions are:
  • Will an RX480 even work with my motherboard (I realise you don't know what it is, but generally speaking) do I need some new fandangled modern motherboard?
  • Even if I can put an RX480 in, am I just wasting my time, will the processor be a bottle neck?
  • I can upgrade the RAM fairly painlessly, I assume that would help?
  • Should I just quit dreaming and sob quietly in the corner?

Your advice will (hopefully) be greatly appreciated.

It will most likely bottleneck the 480, but depending on the games the bottleneck degree will vary.

You can overclock the CPU to over 3Ghz and it should help much more.

Tossing more RAM will also help.

I reckon you can play NMS with CPU heavy features turned down. Can't say how well though before the game officially launches.
 

KageMaru

Member
I would like that, thank you. I used my 212 on a non-OC CPU because it's much quieter than Intel's stock cooler, I have no idea how it would perform in real world OC situation.

I am so sorry I missed this. I tracked stock temps using CPUID HWMonitor but didn't OC my CPU at all. Still need to figure out what what TZ and TMPIN is from the results and what each represents. Looks like I need to look at my bios to figure this out. I also found out about Prime 95 put load on the CPU, if I get a chance I'll run that tonight as well.

I've never had a real gaming rig so a lot of this is new to me but I'm having fun learning things again.
 

reKon

Banned
What are the chances that I'd be able to find a 1 TB EVO SSD for $150 a year from now? I'm eyeing that 960 GB sandisk drive for $165 (would be $180 for me with tax). How much performance gains would I missing out on if my PC is used for gaming and is a HTPC? If it's like 2 seconds on loading apps, I don't give a shit, will buy this, and not look back.
 

Ganzor

Member
So guys what would you pick? The RX 480 Nitro for 332 euro (this is the price from overclockers.co.uk with shipping and danish vat) or a Sapphire Nitro OC+ R9 Fury for 380 euro? I will be playing at 1080p 144hz with freesync and it will go in my Current system with a Core i7 4790k. My PSU is fine for both got a Corsair AX850. Not sure if it's worth it at 1080? the RX 480 might be able to OC close to fury performance? as the fury dont overclock that well from what i have seen.
 

Ban Puncher

Member
I am finally pulling the trigger on an ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27" monitor today.


Please tell me it's not going to be outdated next week.
 

Dmax3901

Member
Here's an example of the problem I'm having with my new Acer XG270HU. Could someone please look at the fire in this screenshot and tell me if it looks off, and if so what I can possibly do about it?

xhVb.jpg
 
So guys what would you pick? The RX 480 Nitro for 332 euro (this is the price from overclockers.co.uk with shipping and danish vat) or a Sapphire Nitro OC+ R9 Fury for 380 euro? I will be playing at 1080p 144hz with freesync and it will go in my Current system with a Core i7 4790k. My PSU is fine for both got a Corsair AX850. Not sure if it's worth it at 1080? the RX 480 might be able to OC close to fury performance? as the fury dont overclock that well from what i have seen.

Shit that's tough. First off, that 480 price is just unreasonably high. Is getting a 4GB 480 a possibility? Here's the deal;

The Fury has higher ROPS, memory bandwidth and pixel rate - it's better in every way hands down. Except two things: Power and VRAM. Power, for me is not an issue. However, VRAM depends on what you think. If you think you will definitely need 8GB VRAM in the next 2 years, go for the RX 480 right away. If you don't (I really don't buy into the 8GB craze, but I'm in the minority) then there is a good case to be made for the Fury indeed. HOWEVER, if you are going 4GB then the 4GB 480 will probably be 50 EUR or so cheaper, which will make it a much more appealing price/perf buy.

So basically;

If you want 8GB get the 480
If you are ok with 4GB, get the 480 4GB if possible and if it's significantly cheaper, otherwise get the Fury.
 

Rufus

Member
Here's an example of the problem I'm having with my new Acer XG270HU. Could someone please look at the fire in this screenshot and tell me if it looks off, and if so what I can possibly do about it?
I can't detect anything off on this screenshot. If you suspect the monitor, you're going to have to take a picture of the screen itself.
 

Ganzor

Member
Shit that's tough. First off, that 480 price is just unreasonably high. Is getting a 4GB 480 a possibility? Here's the deal;

The Fury has higher ROPS, memory bandwidth and pixel rate - it's better in every way hands down. Except two things: Power and VRAM. Power, for me is not an issue. However, VRAM depends on what you think. If you think you will definitely need 8GB VRAM in the next 2 years, go for the RX 480 right away. If you don't (I really don't buy into the 8GB craze, but I'm in the minority) then there is a good case to be made for the Fury indeed. HOWEVER, if you are going 4GB then the 4GB 480 will probably be 50 EUR or so cheaper, which will make it a much more appealing price/perf buy.

So basically;

If you want 8GB get the 480
If you are ok with 4GB, get the 480 4GB if possible and if it's significantly cheaper, otherwise get the Fury.

Well the thing is i sold my R9 290 4GB with the prospect of a lower power draw RX 480 8GB but the prices here in Denmark is just insane with stock 480 8GB versing being 300 euro (so the nitro is a way better buy). The 4GB version is sold out. I will be at 1080p 144hz for some time now. The idea is that the card will be a temp upgrade for a Year or so. overcloking the RX 480 to around fury will prob put it at same power draw as the R9 fury, but still less then my old Card so not sure if it worth it.
 

wagamer

Member
I'm debating whether I should build a new rig or just stick with this one (+ PS4), since so far I've been able to run most of the current games at sufficient detail/fps.

My current setup:
Phenom II X6 1055T (oc at 3,5ghz)
8gb ram
ASRock 890GX Extreme3
AMD R9 280 DirectCU II TOP, 3GB (small oc)

I'm guessing the CPU is bottlenecking me most, but is there any point in upgrading it anymore with that mobo? If there is, what is the best CPU I could get?
 
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