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Aztechnology

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cartoon_soldier said:
My current computer:

Current CPU:
Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
Haswell 22nm Technology

Motherboard:
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI GENE (SOCKET 1150)

RAM:
16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 670MHz (9-9-9-24)

GFX:
GeForce GTX 670

3 SSD - 120/240/240 and 1TB HDD.

650 W PSU

I want to upgrade to GTX 1060 when it comes out.

I also want to upgrade my CPU too, do I need to upgrade my motherboard?

For CPU I am thinking: i5 6600K 4C/4T
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Yes you'd need an LGA 1151 Mobo instead.

I'd recommend against making that small of a jump it you're going to upgrade your CPU though. A single generation jump I5 won't change much for you at all. Look into an I7 or wait. But honestly I don't know your needs so I shouldn't even recommend that. If it's just for gaming it's certainly a waste.
 
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Lockjaw333

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cartoon_soldier said:
My current computer:

Current CPU:
Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
Haswell 22nm Technology

Motherboard:
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI GENE (SOCKET 1150)

RAM:
16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 670MHz (9-9-9-24)

GFX:
GeForce GTX 670

3 SSD - 120/240/240 and 1TB HDD.

650 W PSU

I want to upgrade to GTX 1060 when it comes out.

I also want to upgrade my CPU too, do I need to upgrade my motherboard?

For CPU I am thinking: i5 6600K 4C/4T
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Your cpu is perfectly fine. If you want invest in a cooler master 212 evo cooler and overclock it. Not sure of typical OC for the 4000 series but a decent one should bring you right in line with 6600k performance. I would also explore faster ram as well.

For gpu, a 1060 or 480 will do great with a 4670k. It will be a really big performance jump in terms of fps from a 670.

In short, don't touch the cpu. You are fine for at least a few years.
 
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amardilo

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Can you RAID some drives and not others?

I'm getting a ASUS Maximus Hero VIII motherboard and plan to use several storage disks.

I'm planning on putting Windows and some apps on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, games and work stuff on 2 480GB SSDs but I'd like my documents and media put onto HDDs and put into RAID for redundancy.

I have two spare 3.5TB WD Green drives and two spare 1.5TB WD Green Drives laying around I could use.

Could I put both set of drives in RAID 1 but leave my SSDs and M.2 drives alone?

From what I understand this might be doable but I would need to remove all other drives, before changing the setting in the motherboard. Is this correct?

I'd like this setup if I can:
5 storage drives showing up in Windows 10 (C: = Samsung M.2/NVMe, D: = SSD, E: = SSD, H: = 3.5TB HDD in RAID 1 and I: = 1.5TB HDD in RAID 1).
 
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chip123

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I just got a new motherboard, cpu, gpu and ram. Just connected everything and it only turns on for a few seconds then dies, and keeps repeating that. I don't really know where to start with figuring out what is wrong. Motherboard is GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard, cpu is Intel Core-i7 6700k and the gpu is an EVGA 1070 SC. First thought is maybe the psu isn't enough? It's a Be Quiet P​ure Power ​530W Modul​ar PSU
 
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kennah

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SolarMystic said:
These parts pretty good for $250 used? A fellow gaffer is selling.

I5-2500k@ 4.5 ghz
Asus p8p67 pro motherboard
Gskill 16gb 2133mhz RAM (2 weeks old)
Antec HC Gamer 750w psu, 80+ gold

Coming my current i7 920 with 6gbs of Ram build.

Will also buy a gtx 1060 or AMD 480 8gb to go with.
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I don't think it would be a significant upgrade from what you currently have. You're only going up one generation. Price is ok, a little high I'd say.
 
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LostMyNarbles

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I'm getting a new CPU Cooler...can I use 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to get the old thermal paste off? Also, does it matter if it has a smell to it (It's winter green :p)?
 
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vector824

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LostMyNarbles said:
I'm getting a new CPU Cooler...can I use 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to get the old thermal paste off? Also, does it matter if it has a smell to it (It's winter green :p)?
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Smell shouldn't matter. Your computer could double as an air freshener then!

Edit: Don't listen to me. Listen to that guy below me.
 
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hooijdonk17

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LostMyNarbles said:
I'm getting a new CPU Cooler...can I use 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to get the old thermal paste off? Also, does it matter if it has a smell to it (It's winter green :p)?
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Do not use cleaners with perfume they will leave residue on the surface that is prone to burning and adversely affecting your contact surface.
 
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mochi~

Banned
I updated my gaming build with the ML120mm, and got my replacement cablemod white cable that works! BUILD FINISHED!

ZwWQ3pP.jpg
 
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BasicMath

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amardilo said:
Can you RAID some drives and not others?

I'm getting a ASUS Maximus Hero VIII motherboard and plan to use several storage disks.

I'm planning on putting Windows and some apps on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, games and work stuff on 2 480GB SSDs but I'd like my documents and media put onto HDDs and put into RAID for redundancy.

I have two spare 3.5TB WD Green drives and two spare 1.5TB WD Green Drives laying around I could use.

Could I put both set of drives in RAID 1 but leave my SSDs and M.2 drives alone?

From what I understand this might be doable but I would need to remove all other drives, before changing the setting in the motherboard. Is this correct?

I'd like this setup if I can:
5 storage drives showing up in Windows 10 (C: = Samsung M.2/NVMe, D: = SSD, E: = SSD, H: = 3.5TB HDD in RAID 1 and I: = 1.5TB HDD in RAID 1).
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Software raid? Just go into the disk management, and go through the create new mirrored volume setup. You'll pick what disks will go into it during the setup. Pretty sure you have to delete/format the disks to get it done, though, so make sure you back things up.
 
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Exuro

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So I'm getting my 1070 sometime today. Whats the standard procedure for swapping from an older nvidia card to a new one driver wise? Just uninstall old driver and install newer? Or do I need to use other software to make sure the driver is gone?
 
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gatti-man

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Anyone have recommendations for who makes the best water cooling kits now? I've built custom loops in the past but that was 10 years ago. I want to build a wall mounted setup for my living room using a thermaltake core p5 case.

3676964C-1E51-498A-A0B7-B4F8B9EC8AD2_zpslcbhujuk.jpg
 
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Wag

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hooijdonk17 said:
Does it boot with both ram sticks in single channel mode (tried each ram stick seperately, I mean)?
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Yep. Each stick seems to post fine. With 2 sticks in it only seems to post in slots 1+2. I even tried mixing 2 different types of DDR3. Same problem.

Old motherboard, had bent CPU socket pins which I had unbent by a jeweler. I assume this is the problem?
 
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knitoe

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amardilo said:
Can you RAID some drives and not others?

I'm getting a ASUS Maximus Hero VIII motherboard and plan to use several storage disks.

I'm planning on putting Windows and some apps on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, games and work stuff on 2 480GB SSDs but I'd like my documents and media put onto HDDs and put into RAID for redundancy.

I have two spare 3.5TB WD Green drives and two spare 1.5TB WD Green Drives laying around I could use.

Could I put both set of drives in RAID 1 but leave my SSDs and M.2 drives alone?

From what I understand this might be doable but I would need to remove all other drives, before changing the setting in the motherboard. Is this correct?

I'd like this setup if I can:
5 storage drives showing up in Windows 10 (C: = Samsung M.2/NVMe, D: = SSD, E: = SSD, H: = 3.5TB HDD in RAID 1 and I: = 1.5TB HDD in RAID 1).
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Yes. That should be possible. If your MB supports 3 separate raids, you could even be able put the 2 SSD into RAID 0. And, no, you don't need to remove the other drives.
 
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mcdomination

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I was hoping someone may be able to chime in regarding an Intel Xeon E3-1230v2 CPU.

I'm thinking about replacing my GTX 960 with a 1060, or maybe even an RX480. For the most part, i'll only be playing games in 1080p and maybe some RTS games in 1440p. Will my Xeon still be reliable enough for this?
 
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mochi~

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e90Mark said:
How do you like the new ML series?

I have a bunch of SP/AF quiet editions and was wondering if I should replace them for these.
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Design is exceptional, sole reason ibought them. temps maybe 3-4C diff, inaudible.
low 20C with 6600k 4.5 idle, mid 30c under normal load
 
BizzyBum

BizzyBum

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I have this weird ass display issue where it separates the display to 4 quadrants when I boot up my new PC sometimes. It's happened twice so far and each time I could fix it by simply restarting. I'm assuming it's an nvidia driver related issue, but does anyone know why this happens?

lI7KLG3.jpg
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Nictel

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Bloodember said:
I'd buy a new one then.
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Ok I will then :) Thanks

BizzyBum said:
I have this weird ass display issue where it separates the display to 4 quadrants when I boot up my new PC sometimes. It's happened twice so far and each time I could fix it by simply restarting. I'm assuming it's an nvidia driver related issue, but does anyone know why this happens?
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Maybe there are two conflicting settings, where one is set to create a single desktop and the others to make separates?

I've had this issue in the past where DisplayFusion would conflict with AMD Desktop management.
 
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cartoon_soldier

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Lockjaw333 said:
Your cpu is perfectly fine. If you want invest in a cooler master 212 evo cooler and overclock it. Not sure of typical OC for the 4000 series but a decent one should bring you right in line with 6600k performance. I would also explore faster ram as well.

For gpu, a 1060 or 480 will do great with a 4670k. It will be a really big performance jump in terms of fps from a 670.

In short, don't touch the cpu. You are fine for at least a few years.
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I do have a CPU cooler. What is best way to OC this CPU?

In terms of RAM, what do you recommend?
 
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Lockjaw333

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cartoon_soldier said:
I do have a CPU cooler. What is best way to OC this CPU?

In terms of RAM, what do you recommend?
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Some might crucify me for this, but depending on the motherboard you have you may have some pretty sophisticated auto tuning or auto overclocking. From everything I've seen, the auto OC algorithms on newer boards do a fairly good job with minimal effort, just the press of a button. As long as you have an adequate cooler, I'd try that.

As far as ram, just go for the fastest ram your board can support. There are noticeable gains nowadays in games in terms of fps, and ram is so cheap now.

Those two changes and a new gpu and you are perfectly fine for a while I would think.
 
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lostsupper

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Lockjaw333 said:
Some might crucify me for this, but depending on the motherboard you have you may have some pretty sophisticated auto tuning or auto overclocking. From everything I've seen, the auto OC algorithms on newer boards do a fairly good job with minimal effort, just the press of a button. As long as you have an adequate cooler, I'd try that.
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Don't do this. Take an hour and read through an overclocking guide for your chipset and motherboard. You'll always get a better result and you'll actually learn something.
 
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Lockjaw333

Member
lostsupper said:
Don't do this. Take an hour and read through an overclocking guide for your chipset and motherboard. You'll always get a better result and you'll actually learn something.
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Definitely better to OC manually, I'm just saying that the newer boards do a decent job.

Often times the amount of extra effort you put in got manual overclocking is not worth the gains you would get vs the auto OC. Wanting to learn something though is a different factor, if he/she is interested in learning then researching a manual OC is worth it.
 
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Type2

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Hey all, I wanted to repost this from the GTX 1070 thread to get some knowledge dropped on me

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-111-_-Product Bought this today

It was a tough call between the ASUS and this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-248-_-Product model
but I figure ill be able to overclock either to my needs.

Edit:
Currently im running a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU Overclocked @ 4.5GHz
With 8gigs of DDR3 ram
AMD Radeon HD 6950 Series
Corsair 650 psu

Will I be able to reasonably enjoy this new graphics card for a while until I see a suitable need to upgrade my processor?
 
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LilJoka

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Zapages said:
Hi guys,

I have a quick small question. I was wondering would you recommend, buying this to add a SSD to my desktop computer.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FD8YJB4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The inside of computer looks something like this with the hard drives pointing up and on an incline... Would a 16 inch SATA wire still work on this?

Many thanks in advance.
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Just hang the SSD off the SATA connector, no need for a holder.
As for the SATA data cable length, measure out what you need and buy one.
 
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Zapages

Member
LilJoka said:
Just hang the SSD off the SATA connector, no need for a holder.
As for the SATA data cable length, measure out what you need and buy one.
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What brands would you recommends SATA III cables? I measured I think something like 18 inches could work.

Also is it really a good idea to let the SSD hang like that?
 
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cartoon_soldier

Member
Lockjaw333 said:
Some might crucify me for this, but depending on the motherboard you have you may have some pretty sophisticated auto tuning or auto overclocking. From everything I've seen, the auto OC algorithms on newer boards do a fairly good job with minimal effort, just the press of a button. As long as you have an adequate cooler, I'd try that.

As far as ram, just go for the fastest ram your board can support. There are noticeable gains nowadays in games in terms of fps, and ram is so cheap now.

Those two changes and a new gpu and you are perfectly fine for a while I would think.
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lostsupper said:
Don't do this. Take an hour and read through an overclocking guide for your chipset and motherboard. You'll always get a better result and you'll actually learn something.
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Oh, I already did auto tuning, it went to 4.2 Ghz, 4.4 gave a lot of fan noise.

Will need to see how to undo this I guess and do it manually.
 
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Zapages

Member
rezn0r said:
"Good" is probably not the right word to use but I have also done it with no issues. I'm also not typically moving my PC either.
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I live on the 2nd floor in an apartment building and I can feel the vibrations. So I am afraid it'll effect the SSD hard drive... Hence, I was thinking of buying the tray for the computer. :\
 
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finalflame

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gatti-man said:
Anyone have recommendations for who makes the best water cooling kits now? I've built custom loops in the past but that was 10 years ago. I want to build a wall mounted setup for my living room using a thermaltake core p5 case.

3676964C-1E51-498A-A0B7-B4F8B9EC8AD2_zpslcbhujuk.jpg
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Can't go wrong with EK for pump, res, rads. Fittings EK also makes great ones, I've also had good experiences with Bitspower.

PerformancePCs basically has everything you could ever need, from every possible manufacturer for watercooling.
 
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Phanatic8390

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Question:

In the Build Sheet the Asus Z170-Pro is that the Pro Gaming version or the Pro? The Pro seems out of stock everywhere so I'm looking at other boards but would prefer Asus. Is the Pro Gaming up to snuff? Or is there an alternative board that Asus has I should look at. Looking at going with a 6600k, GTX 1080, 16GB, SSD and HDD.

EDIT: I should mention I'm going to get a Vive as well. Did I read that Asus boards have trouble with Vive?
 
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Aztechnology

Member
gatti-man said:
Anyone have recommendations for who makes the best water cooling kits now? I've built custom loops in the past but that was 10 years ago. I want to build a wall mounted setup for my living room using a thermaltake core p5 case.

3676964C-1E51-498A-A0B7-B4F8B9EC8AD2_zpslcbhujuk.jpg
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finalflame said:
Can't go wrong with EK for pump, res, rads. Fittings EK also makes great ones, I've also had good experiences with Bitspower.

PerformancePCs basically has everything you could ever need, from every possible manufacturer for watercooling.
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Serious question but given the increased TDP efficiencies (for the foreseeable future as well), relative ease of overclocking and generally restrictive limits on many GPU's/CPU's before thermals become an issue. (See Maxwell or Pascal and how essentially any card can reach pretty much max OC on air with relatively low temps.) Even OC CPU's tend to run relatively cool on a simple aftermarket air cooler and great with closed loop, cheap, no hassle liquid solutions. So in reality other than appearance is there really a good reason to be shelling out 300+ dollars on a custom liquid cooler? I'm genuinely curious if there's a price:performance argument or something to be made. I just can't wrap my head around it.
 
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kikonawa

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Aztechnology said:
Serious question but given the increased TDP efficiencies (for the foreseeable future as well), relative ease of overclocking and generally restrictive limits on many GPU's/CPU's before thermals become an issue. (See Maxwell or Pascal and how essentially any card can reach pretty much max OC on air with relatively low temps.) Even OC CPU's tend to run relatively cool on a simple aftermarket air cooler and great with closed loop, cheap, no hassle liquid solutions. So in reality other than appearance is there really a good reason to be shelling out 300+ dollars on a custom liquid cooler? I'm genuinely curious if there's a price:performance argument or something to be made. I just can't wrap my head around it.
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If you ask me there is no point in spending more money on a lowerend cpu and overclock it compared to a higherend cpu.
 
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Aztechnology

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kikonawa said:
If you ask me there is no point in spending more money on a lowerend cpu and overclock it compared to a higherend cpu.
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I have a 5820k/6core a closed loop doing 4.5ghz at 1.3volt. it runs on a $70 Seidon 240m at ~50c highest at 100% load during a benchmark(45 or so is the highest I've seen gaming). Is my CPU low end? Most people aren't buying super low end CPU's they're just buying what they feel is necessary to get the performance they want. Is that still the case? Is a liquid cooling setup beyond a significantly cheaper and easier to manage closed loop system still beneficial today?
 
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JoeBoy101

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So GAF, building a new beast after 5 years for gaming and casual use. Here's what I got:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNbdXH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNbdXH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($192.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1535.69


Thoughts, criticism, advice?

Also, couple of questions:

- Is the i7 6700K really worth it over the i5 6600K?
- Is 32GB memory overkill over 16GB? And more to the point, does it matter or hurt given the cost of memory these days?
- I have a CM Mastercase Pro, but am also kicking around a HAF 932 and a Phanteks Evolv Mid Tower? Recommendations?
- Lastly, the note on the OP build list mentions data corruption on SSDs due to power loss. I have a battery backup, but its still testy at times and I can see the system losing power every few months or so. How high a risk is the data corruption and is it significant enough to stick with a disc drive?

Thanks in advance for all responses.
 
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LilJoka

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JoeBoy101 said:
So GAF, building a new beast after 5 years for gaming and casual use. Here's what I got:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNbdXH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNbdXH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($192.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1535.69


Thoughts, criticism, advice?

Also, couple of questions:

- Is the i7 6700K really worth it over the i5 6600K?
- Is 32GB memory overkill over 16GB? And more to the point, does it matter or hurt given the cost of memory these days?
- I have a CM Mastercase Pro, but am also kicking around a HAF 932 and a Phanteks Evolv Mid Tower? Recommendations?
- Lastly, the note on the OP build list mentions data corruption on SSDs due to power loss. I have a battery backup, but its still testy at times and I can see the system losing power every few months or so. How high a risk is the data corruption and is it significant enough to stick with a disc drive?

Thanks in advance for all responses.
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In 5 years did you ever SLI?
So many people go full ATX and it's not really needed, are you really going to utilise the ATX form factor? Consider MATX or ITX.

Data corruption in my experience was to do with old crucial SSDs.

32GB ram overkill today, just pick up more when needed, prices are falling every month. Your chosen ram has poor latency (CL15).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1374.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-13 18:41 EDT-0400
 
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XTERC

Member
I completed my new build. Hopefully this will last me another 7+ years.

i7newbuild.JPG


i7-6950X
Corsair 32GB DDR4-3333
MSI Sea Hawk EK 1080GTX
ROG Asus Rampage V Edition 10
Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD 512GB
Koolance RP-452X2 (Dual Pumps in Series)
CPU EKWB Supremacy EVO Elite
Koolance QD3s
EKWB CoolStream SE360 Radiator
Some random ThermalTake Radiator that will be replaced.
HTC Vive

I still have some tidy up to do (sleeving etc.)
 
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