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thenameDS

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Eyeing up the BenQ XL2430T at £230 for a friend. His max budget is £220 but I'm chucking in a tenner to help him out. The Asus VG248QE is currently £220 but is going on sale in 1 hour, should I wait for the Asus and save him some money or get the BenQ?
 
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hooijdonk17

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Ganzor said:
Well the thing is i sold my R9 290 4GB with the prospect of a lower power draw RX 480 8GB but the prices here in Denmark is just insane with stock 480 8GB versing being 300 euro (so the nitro is a way better buy). The 4GB version is sold out. I will be at 1080p 144hz for some time now. The idea is that the card will be a temp upgrade for a Year or so. overcloking the RX 480 to around fury will prob put it at same power draw as the R9 fury, but still less then my old Card so not sure if it worth it.
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If it's a 1 year investment you'll probably want better resale value.. that would likely be the Fury, the prices you are paying for that 480 are absolutely bonkers and will lose you more money one year down the line. With the Fury you will likely retain more of your investment, the card's price came down significantly anyway and will smack down a 480 at 1440p and beyond. If I had them on offer at the sameish price I'd get the 4GB Fury over an 8GB 480.
 
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hooijdonk17

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wagamer said:
I'm debating whether I should build a new rig or just stick with this one (+ PS4), since so far I've been able to run most of the current games at sufficient detail/fps.

My current setup:
Phenom II X6 1055T (oc at 3,5ghz)
8gb ram
ASRock 890GX Extreme3
AMD R9 280 DirectCU II TOP, 3GB (small oc)

I'm guessing the CPU is bottlenecking me most, but is there any point in upgrading it anymore with that mobo? If there is, what is the best CPU I could get?
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I'd stick with it until Zen arrives. Then you can just make an affordable cpu/gpu upgrade to Zen AM4 and Polaris, which will give you an affordable future proof socket with DDR4 support and viable CPU upgrades down the line and a great perf/price mainstream GPU that scales very well with a second one if DX12/Vulkan does indeed deliver the multi-GPU support they promise.
 
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Saiyan-Rox

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Can anyone recommend me a Mobo please? i'm in the UK and Amazon would be preferred due to having Prime as i'd like all my parts to arrive at the same time.

I'm gonna be buying an i7 Skylake (overlocking model) so I need a mobo for it but I'm not sure if I should grab one with DDR4 support and buy RAM swell or buy one with DDR3 support and just use the 16GB I already have.

£100 or about that on one would be great if possible
 
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e90Mark

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thenameDS said:
Eyeing up the BenQ XL2430T at £230 for a friend. His max budget is £220 but I'm chucking in a tenner to help him out. The Asus VG248QE is currently £220 but is going on sale in 1 hour, should I wait for the Asus and save him some money or get the BenQ?
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XL2430T is the better monitor, if you care about the feature's BenQ gives you (Blur Reduction).

Otherwise, if they just want a 144hz experience the Asus will be fine.
 
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vector824

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Rox598 said:
Can anyone recommend me a Mobo please? i'm in the UK and Amazon would be preferred due to having Prime as i'd like all my parts to arrive at the same time.

I'm gonna be buying an i7 Skylake (overlocking model) so I need a mobo for it but I'm not sure if I should grab one with DDR4 support and buy RAM swell or buy one with DDR3 support and just use the 16GB I already have.

£100 or about that on one would be great if possible
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Anything with a z170 chipset, definitely go for DDR4 3000mhz because the ram speed as a big impact on FPS. Good brands are Gigabyte, Asus and MSI. This is the board I have: Gigabyte ATX GA-Z170X-UD5 TH
 
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Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Glass edition looks incredible.

It's not cheap, but I want it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE


Your cable management has to be on point so it would be best to get cablemod or some other sleeved cables that fit your PSU. Then you'd also need matching color scheme for the sata cables, and the fan connectors and everything else.
But fuck it looks good. Tempered glass is gorgeous, and its actually one of the few cases where I like illumination inside the case because the the glass dims it making it not annoying at night.
 
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thenameDS

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Rox598 said:
Can anyone recommend me a Mobo please? i'm in the UK and Amazon would be preferred due to having Prime as i'd like all my parts to arrive at the same time.

I'm gonna be buying an i7 Skylake (overlocking model) so I need a mobo for it but I'm not sure if I should grab one with DDR4 support and buy RAM swell or buy one with DDR3 support and just use the 16GB I already have.

£100 or about that on one would be great if possible
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The ASRock Z170 Extreme4 looks great at £108 but I've never used ASRock so when I did my build I bought the Asus Z170 Pro but that ones costs £140. Gigabyte and Asus are amongst the most favoured brands. RAM wise look for the corsair 3000mhz kits they are great and excellent value on Amazon uk.
e90Mark said:
XL2430T is the better monitor, if you care about the feature's BenQ gives you (Blur Reduction).

Otherwise, if they just want a 144hz experience the Asus will be fine.
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I don't think he needs the extra features, he just wants a high refresh rate monitor. Mostly plays LoL and CS:GO
 
Saiyan-Rox

Saiyan-Rox

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vector824 said:
Anything with a z170 chipset, definitely go for DDR4 3000mhz because the ram speed as a big impact on FPS. Good brands are Gigabyte, Asus and MSI. This is the board I have: Gigabyte ATX GA-Z170X-UD5 TH
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Thanks for that I was gonna go for 3000Mhz Ram (Corsair Vengeance I think) the Mobo you linked to here is a few weeks wait but there is this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B013E37HCI/

Would that do? gonna be putting a 980 on there swell.

only issue I have with the mobo I linked to is the colour - my rig is black and green mainly.
 
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Saiyan-Rox

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thenameDS said:
The ASRock Z170 Extreme4 looks great at £108 but I've never used ASRock so when I did my build I bought the Asus Z170 Pro but that ones costs £140. Gigabyte and Asus are amongst the most favoured brands. RAM wise look for the corsair 3000mhz kits they are great and excellent value on Amazon uk.

I don't think he needs the extra features, he just wants a high refresh rate monitor. Mostly plays LoL and CS:GO
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oh nice find that board would look much better in my rig since finding a black/green one is insane. Yeah I was gonna go with the Vengeance 3000Mhz ones 2x8GB for now along with my current 980 should do me for a while.
 
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gamma

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I have a 1070 on the way and been thinking about buying a 1440p monitor too but I'm not sure if the fps hit is worth it :/
 
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vector824

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Rox598 said:
Thanks for that I was gonna go for 3000Mhz Ram (Corsair Vengeance I think) the Mobo you linked to here is a few weeks wait but there is this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B013E37HCI/

Would that do? gonna be putting a 980 on there swell.

only issue I have with the mobo I linked to is the colour - my rig is black and green mainly.
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Yeah that color scheme will be something else. That's why I like mine, it's mostly black. The one you picked has a lot of bells, whistles and lights that you might not need. Unless you want two m.2 slots. Everything else is comparable.

Edit: I wouldn't go with the ASRock. 3 stars on newegg, isn't as good of a brand as Gigabyte or ASUS.

RootCause said:
Ballistix Sport LT DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin CL16
Suitable for gaming?
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Should be, I'd go with 3000mhz, its the sweet spot with price v perf.
 
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thenameDS

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e90Mark said:
CS is great with blur reduction, but if the Asus is going to drop in price and he's budget minded, might as well go with it.
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Thanks. I'll wait till 4pm and see what price the Asus drops to and then pass the decision on to him.
Rox598 said:
oh nice find that board would look much better in my rig since finding a black/green one is insane. Yeah I was gonna go with the Vengeance 3000Mhz ones 2x8GB for now along with my current 980 should do me for a while.
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Yea the board looks great and has positive reviews, along with the vengeance ram and 980 you'll be sorted for a while.
 
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RootCause

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vector824 said:
Yeah that color scheme will be something else. That's why I like mine, it's mostly black. The one you picked has a lot of bells, whistles and lights that you might not need. Unless you want two m.2 slots. Everything else is comparable.

Edit: I wouldn't go with the ASRock. 3 stars on newegg, isn't as good of a brand as Gigabyte or ASUS.



Should be, I'd go with 3000mhz, its the sweet spot with price v perf.
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Even if the price difference is about $50 more?
 
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Kyonashi

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Is there any reason I should not buy an Acer Predator XB271HK over a XB271HU?

I've found the former for cheaper and as far as I can tell they're the same monitor but the HK is 4K and the HU is 2K?
 
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xCaptainCanadax

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Could someone suggest some good affordable gaming monitors?

Im looking for a single 27 inch monitor, looking at options with and without g-sync as im not sure its something I need for the price. Also I'm in Canada if it matters.
 
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Saiyan-Rox

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vector824 said:
Yeah that color scheme will be something else. That's why I like mine, it's mostly black. The one you picked has a lot of bells, whistles and lights that you might not need. Unless you want two m.2 slots. Everything else is comparable.

Edit: I wouldn't go with the ASRock. 3 stars on newegg, isn't as good of a brand as Gigabyte or ASUS.



Should be, I'd go with 3000mhz, its the sweet spot with price v perf.
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thenameDS said:
Thanks. I'll wait till 4pm and see what price the Asus drops to and then pass the decision on to him.

Yea the board looks great and has positive reviews, along with the vengeance ram and 980 you'll be sorted for a while.
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I'm at two minds now on that ASRock :S

What about this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B013E37KPC/ long as it supports the 3000Mhz RAM and my Kraken x41
 
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Saiyan-Rox

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thenameDS said:
I would prefer that Gigabyte board over the ASRock. But I may be biased as I've only had experience building with Asus and Gigabyte and I've never had any problems.

EDIT: It will also perfectly support your RAM and the Kraken cooler
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Thanks for the help guys think I'll spring for the gigabyte one overall and buy it all together.

oh a side question will I need to upgrade my PSU? it's 550w (I think)
 
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draughn101

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Vigilant Walrus said:
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Glass edition looks incredible.

It's not cheap, but I want it...

Your cable management has to be on point so it would be best to get cablemod or some other sleeved cables that fit your PSU. Then you'd also need matching color scheme for the sata cables, and the fan connectors and everything else.
But fuck it looks good. Tempered glass is gorgeous, and its actually one of the few cases where I like illumination inside the case because the the glass dims it making it not annoying at night.
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Mine shows up Wednesday, I'll post pictures after I get everything put together. I managed to grab one before they bumped the price up $20
 
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thenameDS

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Rox598 said:
Thanks for the help guys think I'll spring for the gigabyte one overall and buy it all together.

oh a side question will I need to upgrade my PSU? it's 550w (I think)
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What is the brand and efficiency of the PSU? If it's a decent PSU it should be more than capable of running your setup.
 
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BasicMath

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Ganzor said:
Well the thing is i sold my R9 290 4GB with the prospect of a lower power draw RX 480 8GB but the prices here in Denmark is just insane with stock 480 8GB versing being 300 euro (so the nitro is a way better buy). The 4GB version is sold out. I will be at 1080p 144hz for some time now. The idea is that the card will be a temp upgrade for a Year or so. overcloking the RX 480 to around fury will prob put it at same power draw as the R9 fury, but still less then my old Card so not sure if it worth it.
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I'd go for the Fury normally. But in your situation and with what you said in mind, I'd definitely go with the 480 and either add another 480 down the line or upgrade to something else to keep the low power draw. It just doesn't make sense to me to spend more for something that you'll be upgrading in a year or so.

There's not a whole lot of options here. I'm guessing it's not possible to go for team green with a 1070 for a non-temp and low power draw upgrade?
 
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metareferential

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gamma said:
I have a 1070 on the way and been thinking about buying a 1440p monitor too but I'm not sure if the fps hit is worth it :/
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Gsync is your answer.

But price is an issue: the difference in price between gsync and non gsync monitors could get you to buy a 1080.

Anyway, high refresh and variable refresh are a must.
 
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KageMaru

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Atraveller said:
I would like that, thank you. I used my 212 on a non-OC CPU because it's much quieter than Intel's stock cooler, I have no idea how it would perform in real world OC situation.
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I'm still at work and won't be able to test out OC until later tonight but here are the stats from about an hour and half of gaming on BF4, all ultra settings at 1080p.

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I'll post the same stats after I get it over clocked.
 
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metareferential

metareferential

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gamma said:
That's what I've been thinking but over in the G-Sync thread some people said it's high refresh rates that make most of the difference, not G-Sync.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209567653&postcount=2436
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It depends; if you have enough horsepower, sure 144hz is enough.

But when you start averaging around or under 60fps, gsync makes all the difference in the world.

I have a 980ti SLI (a 980ti is very close to a 1070, so it's basically your case) and a 1440p gsync monitor; in demanding games where SLI isn't supported, gsync gets me a smooth experience no matter what (where without you would be limited to drops or 30 locked).
 
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This is a little off topic, but in the same ball park... I'm putting together a home server that will run PLEX and host game servers.

I know about good media streaming hard drives like WD Reds & Greens, or the Seagate NAS drive. I'm wondering if those (slower) drives would work for hosting a game server. I'm guessing light stuff like Terraria and Minecraft would be fine, but what about more demanding titles? Would it be better to keep a small SSD or 7200rpm drive in there for game servers? I'm not sure if a faster drive would drastically improve game performance or if once the drive spins up it will be fine.
 
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Jyrii

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I just got my new GPU, so my build is finally ready.

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(the cable management is horrible on my part)

Cpu: Intel Core i5-6600K 3,5 GHz LGA1151
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini Black Pearl Micro-ATX
Motherboard: Asus Z170M-PLUS Intel Z170 LGA1151 micro-ATX
Memory: G.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 3200 MHz 16 Gt (2 x 8 Gt)
GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 SC
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
PSU: EVGA 550W SuperNOVA 550 GS 80 Plus Gold

I haven't seem to had any problems with it, which is a bless. My old computer originally had crappy PSU which caused shutdowns and it had other less severe problems too.

I am so damn happy with this new rig. It is quite silent, the case is way smaller than the ugly HAF-X I had before, and it is so fast.
 
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gamma

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metareferential said:
It depends; if you have enough horsepower, sure 144hz is enough.

But when you start averaging around or under 60fps, gsync makes all the difference in the world.

I have a 980ti SLI (a 980ti is very close to a 1070, so it's basically your case) and a 1440p gsync monitor; in demanding games where SLI isn't supported, gsync gets me a smooth experience no matter what (where without you would be limited to drops or 30 locked).
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Is there any reason to wait a bit, like new stuff coming out, VA panels maybe? Otherwise I might order the PG279Q today since its cheaper due to Prime Day.
 
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