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[jongkookie]

Does anybody know if these RAM sticks are compatible with Ryzen or my mobo?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232251

I don't see it listed on Asrock's QVL for my mobo and I'm looking at the stickers as well as that Newegg link and it says its optimized for Intel with no mention of AMD.

It's RAM so it should just work right??

5 years ago when I built my current PC, I've never heard of RAM sticks being incompatible with CPU's so seeing that sticker kinda concerns me now lol.

 

[LilJoka]

Does anybody know if these RAM sticks are compatible with Ryzen or my mobo?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232251

I don't see it listed on Asrock's QVL for my mobo and I'm looking at the stickers as well as that Newegg link and it says its optimized for Intel with no mention of AMD.

It's RAM so it should just work right??

5 years ago when I built my current PC, I've never heard of RAM sticks being incompatible with CPU's so seeing that sticker kinda concerns me now lol.

It's 2400mhz ddr4, that's all that matters, so it'll work.

 

[Chinbo37]

What are the classiest looking glass cases? I like straight lines, and no "DIS IS FOR GAMERZ" esthetic if you know what I mean.

The Corsair 570X looks pretty good, but the honeycomb pattern behind the glass looks a little too dorky.

This case looks dope but I would just turn off the blue LEDs

 

[Mugy]

Asking again bros.

The PC i wanted to build from amazon goes over my budget because of the taxes. So i was hoping to change the GTX 1060 for a GTX 1050ti. My question is: what i can expect from performance? i do really wanna play videogames in here...The latest game i played was Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition back in the day.
I want to play everything i can at the highest perfomance with the better settings possible. How does the GTX 1050ti performs with, for example, Batman Arkham Knight at 1080p?

Thanks in advice.

 

[Phatosaurus]

Asking again bros.

The PC i wanted to build from amazon goes over my budget because of the taxes. So i was hoping to change the GTX 1060 for a GTX 1050ti. My question is: what i can expect from performance? i do really wanna play videogames in here...The latest game i played was Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition back in the day.
I want to play everything i can at the highest perfomance with the better settings possible. How does the GTX 1050ti performs with, for example, Batman Arkham Knight at 1080p?

Thanks in advice.

It's a good card, but it'll struggle to max things out and hit 60FPS in some newer games. It's comparable to the the GTX 960.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTnl66Yh90

 

[Mugy]

It's a good card, but it'll struggle to max things out and hit 60FPS in some newer games. It's comparable to the the GTX 960.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTnl66Yh90

Oh, but its not at bad right? in terms of price-performance.

I wanna play games like Batman Arkham Knight, Ni-oh eventually, Marvel .vs Capcom infinite, ZOE 2 HD when it came out, Injustice 2, etc etc, at least at high 1080p60fps.

Its impossible? should i make the sacrifice to get the 1060?

 

[Phatosaurus]

Oh, but its not at bad right? in terms of price-performance.

I wanna play games like Batman Arkham Knight, Ni-oh eventually, Marvel .vs Capcom infinite, ZOE 2 HD when it came out, Injustice 2, etc etc, at least at high 1080p60fps.

Its impossible? should i make the sacrifice to get the 1060?

It's definitely possible in a lot of games. I used to have the card myself, if you ever struggle to hit 60FPS, just turn down some of the settings that you don't even notice and you'll be fine. The 1060 3Gb is worth considering too if you can get it cheap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTnl66Yh90

 

[Mr.Marston]

Will my 430w psu be enough to go from a 1050ti to a 1060?

 

[RumblingRosco]

Will my 430w psu be enough to go from a 1050ti to a 1060?

Somewhat depends on the rest of your build and whether you're overclocking your CPU and/or GPU. It's a bit borderline for my comfort either way, but my guess is that it'll work, without knowing the rest of your system. My suggestion is to put your entire system into PCPartPicker and look at the wattage suggestion listed there.

 

[demented waffle]

Will my 430w psu be enough to go from a 1050ti to a 1060?

Not sure how good EVGAs are in psu, but you should be fine as long as it doesn't suck.

For reference:
4770k @4ghz
1080ti @ 1950mhz and ~12ghz memory pulls around <430 watts out of the wall according to my Belkin.

Assuming you don't have a 12 core cpu or an octocore clocked to the moon.

 

[Ted]

Hi all, just need some external validation. I think I have made a half decent choice for a motherboard but before I order it I want to check with you fine folks.

I currently have the following:

- AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
- Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card
- Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case

And want to know if the the below is compatible / a good choice. I'm pretty sure it is compatible and has the additional bits I need (built in LAN / sound / a good number of USB ports) but I'm not 100%.

- GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD Ryzen CPU AM4 Socket DDR4 PCIe Gen3 USB 3.1 GB LAN Micro ATX Motherboard (EDIT - Manual).

Thanks in advance BuildingCoolStuffGAF.

 

[Azzurri]

What are the classiest looking glass cases? I like straight lines, and no "DIS IS FOR GAMERZ" esthetic if you know what I mean.

The Corsair 570X looks pretty good, but the honeycomb pattern behind the glass looks a little too dorky.

The x series looks really good, and the smaller version 460x is awesome too. But Thermaltake has a pretty good looking case too

View 21 TG or there is a bigger one View 31 TG.

 

[Condom]

What are the classiest looking glass cases? I like straight lines, and no "DIS IS FOR GAMERZ" esthetic if you know what I mean.

The Corsair 570X looks pretty good, but the honeycomb pattern behind the glass looks a little too dorky.

Ugh no, buy the Fractal Meshify C.

 

[ThanksVision]

am I safe to pull the trigger? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P63Gpb

 

[RumblingRosco]

am I safe to pull the trigger? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P63Gpb

Looks good to me. Gonna get a GPU later or already have one?

 

[ColdDeckEd]

Havent bought a new pc in quite a while but i just got the money for one. Dont follow the hardware market closely anymore but i read up a bit the last couple of days and came up with this build:

Going to transfer the SSD from my previous build. Primary usage is going to be gaming on a 144hz monitor. Maybe some occasional streaming.

Anything big i missed or messed up somewhere ?

Holdup why are you goong with 7700k when the 8700k is out?

 

[RumblingRosco]

Holdup why are you goong with 7700k when the 8700k is out?

Is the 8700k actually obtainable anywhere that isn't a huge mark-up?

 

[ThanksVision]

Looks good to me. Gonna get a GPU later or already have one?

Planning on getting one later. The real issue I am having is whether I should go for a different CPU/mobo combo that is similarly priced (keeps the overall build under $600). I basically want to get the best possible mobo/combo available for $300ish that will still fit in that case. The motherboard would have onboard wifi ideally, but not necessary. I'm just struggling to come up with a better combo than the one I have currently selected

 

[Bloodember]

Hi all, just need some external validation. I think I have made a half decent choice for a motherboard but before I order it I want to check with you fine folks.

I currently have the following:

- AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
- Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card
- Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case

And want to know if the the below is compatible / a good choice. I'm pretty sure it is compatible and has the additional bits I need (built in LAN / sound / a good number of USB ports) but I'm not 100%.

- GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD Ryzen CPU AM4 Socket DDR4 PCIe Gen3 USB 3.1 GB LAN Micro ATX Motherboard (EDIT - Manual).

Thanks in advance BuildingCoolStuffGAF.

That's a great motherboard choice, you should be good to go.

 

[Sohter.Nura]

Hello everyone, I don't need a new PC but I have a question.
My wife bought me an old, old PC for like $20 as we are broke, and I tried installing a video card just so I can play some basic games with her on her much better laptop. The video card fit just fine but when turning on, there was a red light and a beep, and the computer didn't even boot or had power running through it. Any idea if this is an incompatibility issue or a power supply issue? Here are the specifications;

Motherboard - HP Model 3646h, chipset Intel Q45/Q43

CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400

Power Supply HP D240 2E0 240 watt power supply

Graphics Card AMD ATI Radeon NFXD5 1gb Low Profile PCI-e

I researched and my motherboard has PCI x16 slots, so I thought the card would be compatible. Anyway, I know it's a long shot, but would anyone be able to shed some light? =(

 

[ironmang]

If you're going for a CPU upgrade, then that'll be a new motherboard and DDR4. Probably around $300-400 on those if you shoot for mid range.

$200ish for something like a Ryzen 1600
$75 for a B350 motherboard
$70ish for 8Gb of DDR4/$130-140 for 16Gb.

If AMD ain't your bag, then you've got the new i5 8400 but the current motherboard line up is limited, and more expensive. Talking $120 minimum right now for a Z370 board

I just want whatever upgrade gets PUBG running the best. I might do a proper rebuild in about 2 years. Could an extra 8gb of ddr3, keeping the same mobo, and upgrading gpu and cpu work out? Doesn't matter to me if they're old parts as long as I can do it for under $500.

 

[Ted]

That's a great motherboard choice, you should be good to go.

Thanks for the confirmation. Much appreciated. : )

 

[Phatosaurus]

I just want whatever upgrade gets PUBG running the best. I might do a proper rebuild in about 2 years. Could an extra 8gb of ddr3, keeping the same mobo, and upgrading gpu and cpu work out? Doesn't matter to me if they're old parts as long as I can do it for under $500.

Frankly, yes. Getting an old i7 on the same socket as you have now, an extra 8gb RAM and getting a newer GPU will breath a lot of life into your setup. Price-wise though, can't really help you to much since I don't know what kinda price 4XXX series CPU's go for.

 

[Big Chungus]

Anyone know when the next generation of Nvidia cards will release?

 

[opticalmace]

Anyone know when the next generation of Nvidia cards will release?

No leaks yet, but my personal guess (based on past release cycles) would be around early Q2 2018. Though, who knows if they'll only launch the Titan-type product first.

 

[RumblingRosco]

Anyone know when the next generation of Nvidia cards will release?

No guarantees. The 1070 Ti will launch in a week or two, but after that, the rumors suggest anytime between January and May 2018. Just rumors though.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Is the 8700k actually obtainable anywhere that isn't a huge mark-up?

Even still... Unless you need a PC right now at this very moment, then it would be foolish to not wait a bit to get the 8700k. Paying a premium for 4 cores at this point is just not a good idea.

 

[Celcius]

If you don't use a printer for 6 months and then you try to print but it prints really streaky and incompletely, does that mean the ink went bad and the cartridges need to be replaced?
I got an HP Envy 4512 for Christmas last year and I rarely ever use it. It worked perfectly fine when I got it but after a loooong time of not using it I've tried print test pages, letting it clean the cartridges, aligning it, etc.. and now it prints streaking / incomplete.

 

[Novum_Veritas]

If you don't use a printer for 6 months and then you try to print but it prints really streaky and incompletely, does that mean the ink went bad and the cartridges need to be replaced?
I got an HP Envy 4512 for Christmas last year and I rarely ever use it. It worked perfectly fine when I got it but after a loooong time of not using it I've tried print test pages, letting it clean the cartridges, aligning it, etc.. and now it prints streaking / incomplete.

Yeah, that is "normal", the ink is not a liquid anymore and went firm.

As I read you also tried to use all the tools from your printer and it still doesn't work.
Can you sent the firm ink back to HP for a new one?

 

[Branson]

Is there like, any realistic reason I need to upgrade from a 7700k to an 8700k? I have it paired with a 1080ti and play at maxed settings 1080p 60fps. I havent ran into any Fps issues but I can dip below 60 if I do something stupid like ini change the grass to a mile out or something on Witcher 3.

 

[Mrbob]

No reason at all. Your setup crushes 1080P60.

 

[Branson]

No reason at all. Your setup crushes 1080P60.

Honestly, didnt think so. But I get anxious when new stuff releases.

 

[V1LÆM]

Is there like, any realistic reason I need to upgrade from a 7700k to an 8700k? I have it paired with a 1080ti and play at maxed settings 1080p 60fps. I havent ran into any Fps issues but I can dip below 60 if I do something stupid like ini change the grass to a mile out or something on Witcher 3.

Nope especially if you're only playing at 60fps. I'd spend money on a new monitor instead. You could get away with a 4K 60hz monitor or a 1440p 144hz with your 7700K/1080 ti. I have a 6700K/1070 and even that kills 1080p 60fps so I just downsample 1440p.

If you were to go for a 144hz monitor then you'd probably need to consider a new CPU sooner because it'd help hit 144fps and keep up the minimum fps. If you go for a 60hz monitor you could keep the 7700K for a while yet because you don't need to worry until you start dipping below 60fps.

My next purchases will probably be a 4K 60hz monitor and a new GPU. Wasn't interested in the 7700K and neither the 8700K. Probably earliest I'll upgrade is Icelake or Tigerlake when we're on 10nm/+ 8/16 cpus.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

God, I just want to retire my GTX 970 because it can't even manage 1080/60 in some modern games anymore but what the hell are those GPU prices? First time I checked them in a while and they're absurdly high. Have the prices inflated like in the mid 2000s? I can't afford shit.

 

[franklyshankly]

God, I just want to retire my GTX 970 because it can't even manage 1080/60 in some modern games anymore but what the hell are those GPU prices? First time I checked them in a while and they're absurdly high. Have the prices inflated like in the mid 2000s? I can't afford shit.

It's cryptocurrency miners for the most part. The prices you see aren't MSRP.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

It's cryptocurrency miners for the most part. The prices you see aren't MSRP.

I'm looking at a 1070 (which in my opinion is actually not a worthwhile upgrade to my 970) and it costs more than &#8364;390. That is outrageous even if you subtract the money I'd get for selling my 970. Which card that is at least twice as fast as the 970 is the best bang for the buck?

edit: Wait, my 970 is still worth 200&#8364;? Holy shit.

 

[V1LÆM]

I'm looking at a 1070 (which in my opinion is actually not a worthwhile upgrade to my 970) and it costs more than €390. That is outrageous even if you subtract the money I'd get for selling my 970. Which card that is at least twice as fast as the 970 is the best bang for the buck?

you might wanna wait for the 1070 Ti which is meant to come out in about 2 weeks. It is close to the 1080 in terms of performance. not sure about price but just keep in mind if you're looking at a 1070 right now.

 

[ZZMitch]

I'm looking at a 1070 (which in my opinion is actually not a worthwhile upgrade to my 970) and it costs more than €390. That is outrageous even if you subtract the money I'd get for selling my 970. Which card that is at least twice as fast as the 970 is the best bang for the buck?

I built a PC about 3 weeks ago and ended up getting a 1080 instead of a 1070 since it was only about $100 more

 

[JonnyDBrit]

I'm looking at a 1070 (which in my opinion is actually not a worthwhile upgrade to my 970) and it costs more than €390. That is outrageous even if you subtract the money I'd get for selling my 970. Which card that is at least twice as fast as the 970 is the best bang for the buck?

edit: Wait, my 970 is still worth 200€? Holy shit.

The GPU market is still kinda fucked up at the moment. Secondhand 970s are a viable alternative for those wanting high performance at 1080p, but can't get their hands on a GTX 1060 or RX 580, and so their prices have eked back up.

 

[Jarnet87]

Even still... Unless you need a PC right now at this very moment, then it would be foolish to not wait a bit to get the 8700k. Paying a premium for 4 cores at this point is just not a good idea.

what about trying to get the most bang for you buck gaming PC. In my case I only use my PC for gaming so I'm wondering if just pulling the trigger on a 7700k and moving the savings between the 8700k/7700k and a z370/z270 to a better graphics card or monitor might be a better move.

 

[Leeroy605]

Can having too many USB devices plugged in at once cause issues?

Having disconnect issues with my Rift recently, and was sure it was a loose connection as it lost video and made the windows disconnect sound when moving it on my head or adjusting it...

However it happens much more when frequently when sim racing, so that means I've got my wheel, shifter, rift + 3 x sensors, transducer seat and wireless keyboard/mouse combo all plugged in at once.

Would a powered USB hub help here? Not possible to add an additional USB PCI hub due to my small case...Thanks!

 

[bigJP]

need help building a pc for a friend

use: gaming and 3d modelling/design
cost: $1000 us

main purpose will be for game design (modelling work)
will need a drawing pad

want to keep costs down but still need it to be decent quality

 

[rtcn63]

Can having too many USB devices plugged in at once cause issues?

Having disconnect issues with my Rift recently, and was sure it was a loose connection as it lost video and made the windows disconnect sound when moving it on my head or adjusting it...

However it happens much more when frequently when sim racing, so that means I've got my wheel, shifter, rift + 3 x sensors, transducer seat and wireless keyboard/mouse combo all plugged in at once.

Would a powered USB hub help here? Not possible to add an additional USB PCI hub due to my small case...Thanks!

You can mess with Window's power settings to try and prevent it from shutting off USB devices to save power. But... if you have an older mobo, USB 3.0 implementation is iffy and a HUB might help. I use one (Amazon model), it keeps my external hard drives from randomly disconnecting. Mind that the HUB will be limited to the speeds provided by a single USB 3.0 port.

 

[Nostremitus]

Looking to turn my HTPC into a living room itx gaming rig. The A10 7850K isn't cutting it anymore. It was acceptable for the Xbox 360/PS3 level games but it can't handle newer games.

Which itx Ryzen boards have any of you had good luck with?

Planning on going with an R5 1400, pairing it with my trusty old 290X.

I'm main rig has an overclocked 1700X.

 

[zedge]

1080p gaming on a 4k monitor? Does this degrade the image quality? I play 1080p games on a 4k TV and they look good, but maybe that's due to sitting farther away.

 

[Spartancarver]

Is there like, any realistic reason I need to upgrade from a 7700k to an 8700k? I have it paired with a 1080ti and play at maxed settings 1080p 60fps. I havent ran into any Fps issues but I can dip below 60 if I do something stupid like ini change the grass to a mile out or something on Witcher 3.

Why limit that setup to 1080p60? That's a 1080p144 setup lol

 

[VSG]

Looking to turn my HTPC into a living room itx gaming rig. The A10 7850K isn't cutting it anymore. It was acceptable for the Xbox 360/PS3 level games but it can't handle newer games.

Which itx Ryzen boards have any of you had good luck with?

Planning on going with an R5 1400, pairing it with my trusty old 290X.

I'm main rig has an overclocked 1700X.

I have tried two B350 mITX boards and both have been a disappointment. Among the two, the Gigabyte B350 ITX (GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI) would be my pick if I absolutely had to but make sure you have good airflow on the VRMs if you go with this.

1080p gaming on a 4k monitor? Does this degrade the image quality? I play 1080p games on a 4k TV and they look good, but maybe that's due to sitting farther away.

Eh, not really. On the flip side, a lot of 4K TVs upscale to varying degrees of success too, so it's hard to tell how you would like it on a monitor that does not do it.

 

[Leeroy605]

You can mess with Window's power settings to try and prevent it from shutting off USB devices to save power. But... if you have an older mobo, USB 3.0 implementation is iffy and a HUB might help. I use one (Amazon model), it keeps my external hard drives from randomly disconnecting. Mind that the HUB will be limited to the speeds provided by a single USB 3.0 port.

Hey thanks for the response. Going to fiddle with my power settings later too, and have just ordered a powered hub to see if it helps things.

The devices I'm using don't really require speed, but will keep the rift sensors plugged directly into the pc. Fingers crossed!

 

[DiscoDave]

Nvm

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Honestly, didnt think so. But I get anxious when new stuff releases.

That setup will be good for years to come if you just want to max out 1080p on a 60hz monitor.

If anything, you should upgrade to a 1440p G-Sync monitor so you can actually see some of the incredible performance that machine is capable of.