I use a 34" Dell ultrawide at work and at 3440x1440 it is wonderful because I can put two big windows side by side. If you are looking primarily at text, getting the most resolution is best because more pixels = sharper text especially if you use scaling. You need a display that supports Displayport in any case, HDMI is out with the MB Air as it can't push high enough resolution. But if cost is an issue then 2560x1080 would be an improvement definitely.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!
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I use a 34" Dell ultrawide at work and at 3440x1440 it is wonderful because I can put two big windows side by side. If you are looking primarily at text, getting the most resolution is best because more pixels = sharper text especially if you use scaling. You need a display that supports Displayport in any case, HDMI is out with the MB Air as it can't push high enough resolution. But if cost is an issue then 2560x1080 would be an improvement definitely.
It depends on how well the software can use the GPU. It seems at the moment Premiere Pro is pretty shitty for GPU acceleration requiring editing text files and whatnot but some plugins might be able to use it. You would probably be fine with a midrange GPU like a 1060. While not exactly beefy, when software starts to support GPU rendering more it would still be able to handle it well.
You could just try how it goes with the integrated GPU first and buy a dedicated one if you feel it doesn't perform well.
TangoAlphaLima
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So I was looking to install a video card in my new i5 desktop and had decided I'd probably go with the RX 480. But I see that the RX 580 is only about a month from release, and should offer slightly better performance at roughly the same price (estimated $200, current RX 480 deals can be had around $160). I should probably wait for the RX 580, right?
hikarutilmitt
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i5 6600
256GB Intel 600p NVMe SSD (system)
500GB Samsung 850 EVO (everything else)
Gigabyte H110n itx board
16GB g.Skill Aegis (one stick, wanted to leave the other slot open just in case)
Gigabyte GTX 660ti (from my previous machine, this will be replaced with a 1060 soonish, I hope)
Silverstone 850W 80+ Silver PSU
Intel liquid cooler
Pioneer BD-R
Cooler Master Elite 130
I don't have pics because it's a rather tight build and thus looks kind of ugly IMO. And I forgot to take them. If/when I swap out for a slimmer PSU and new GPU I'll probably take some.
I used the PSU, GPU and CDR from my old build because I wanted to shrink before doing a full upgrade. I would have gone with a Kabylake, but the mobo would have needed a BIOS update for it and the feature difference between the Skylake and its comparable Kabylake aren't meaningful to me in this setup. I didn't want to spend $50 more for a cheapo Skylake Celeron just to do a BIOS update.
As said before, it's a bit cramped in the case, but that was expected. So far everything is running quiet and cool enough that the task I set out to accomplish has been, well, accomplished. Should also be stated that a fair amount of this was from xmas gifts, so it's been a bit of time coming until I was finally able to do it.
RamaTheVoice
Member
Wait for the RX580 but remember it will be a rebranded 480. If the performance difference is small enough, it could be worth it to get a 480 then at an even lower price.
Also Vega releases in May, so maybe keep an eye on that?
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Vega will probably be quite a bit more expensive, right? Or do we have zero idea at this point? This PC build for me will probably just be for 1080p gaming and office work. Don't need eye bleeding performance out of it. I'll wait a few years for VR to come down in price and get better before investing a big chunk of change in a 4K-capable PC.
On a side note, this is one reason why I hate dealing with PCs. I'm paralyzed by choices, and I always second-guess myself after committing. It's also really easy to up-sell myself on something just a bit better.
Honestly you might as well get a 480 (or 470) now, the rebrands will probably barely be faster and they will be more expensive.\
On a sidenote I delidded my 7700k already, I'll post more on this later.
PlayALLtheGames
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I did a little mockup of my build using stock and random people's photos from Google images. All the components are ones I'm actually using minus the pump/res (will be similar though, just with black chrome tension rods and red lighting) and the GPU (picture is an awkward angle shot of a 1080 with water block; I'll be on a 1080Ti with block). Proportions should be about right. Fittings and couple of tube bends are off but again it's just to give me an idea of the setup and loop.
Parts list here
I thought of perhaps taking PSU apart and painting the vent red, but I'll probably just use a section of the Hue+ lighting kit LEDs to outline it. The rest of the kit will go in as of yet undetermined locations on the case and be either all white or a mix of white and the navy color from Washington Capitals/Wizards logos (this build is kind of a tribute to DC sports: black/red - DC united, white/red - Nats, red/navy - Caps, Wizards). Nothing for Redskins because I'm not putting any ugly ass gold in there but red is close enough to burgundy.
I will not be using the stupid fucking riser cable (which allows you to put your card vertically) until Thermaltake can figure it out. I know there are 3rd party cables but I've read the reviews on them and there's not enough a consensus on quality that I'm going to pay up to $60 for a cable to potentially hurt my performance or even damage something. And since this is a water build with rigid tubes I'm not redoing the fucking thing shortly after putting everything together.
Parts list here
I thought of perhaps taking PSU apart and painting the vent red, but I'll probably just use a section of the Hue+ lighting kit LEDs to outline it. The rest of the kit will go in as of yet undetermined locations on the case and be either all white or a mix of white and the navy color from Washington Capitals/Wizards logos (this build is kind of a tribute to DC sports: black/red - DC united, white/red - Nats, red/navy - Caps, Wizards). Nothing for Redskins because I'm not putting any ugly ass gold in there but red is close enough to burgundy.
I will not be using the stupid fucking riser cable (which allows you to put your card vertically) until Thermaltake can figure it out. I know there are 3rd party cables but I've read the reviews on them and there's not enough a consensus on quality that I'm going to pay up to $60 for a cable to potentially hurt my performance or even damage something. And since this is a water build with rigid tubes I'm not redoing the fucking thing shortly after putting everything together.
Reapply thermal paste. Make sure your fan(s) is set correctly on the radiator.
RamaTheVoice
Member
How do you mean?
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Edit: high refresh on both so typical advantage of TN over IPS not present here.
IPS has better color accuracy and viewing angles.
So, my answer is: the IPS with 1080.
I always say if you can hold out a bit and use the time to save more, always go for the better card. Especially with the price drops recently, I don't see the point of getting a 1070. For a little over 100 bucks more, you can get the 1080. I know the true value of that difference varies depending on who you are, but realistically if you're willing to blow like $400 for a video card, I assume you can hold off, save up a bit more and blow $500.
RamaTheVoice
Member
Nous new tech yet, but HDR monitors have been shown at CES and should arrive this year.
Bios vcore doesn't matter, need the vcore that CPUz measures under load.
You can RMA a delidded chip, just glue the IHS on. It's been done before, Intel don't care. CPUs don't just fail, the delid is the risky part, but using a delid tool there is no more risk.
Ah that's what I thought. Thanks!
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Can someone tell me the difference between
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 SEA HAWK X, 8Gb GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £699.99
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8Gb GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £589.99
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 ARMOR 8G OC GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £549.99
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 SEA HAWK X, 8Gb GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £699.99
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8Gb GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £589.99
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 ARMOR 8G OC GDDR5 GDDR5 VR Ready Graphics Card - £549.99
For instance if you have a h80 for example, if you have air coming from intakes of your case, and the h80i set in the back, you don't want your fan on the radiator to be accidentally set up as an intake vs an exhaust.
RamaTheVoice
Member
I have a 140mm AIO with two fans in a push-pull config and a heatsink in the middle, mounted at the top back of the case, so from that standpoint I think I'm ok.
One is a reference card (Sea Hawk X) with a AIO attached to it. The gaming X is a custom PCB. I believe Armor is reference too (not 100% sure). Gaming X should be the fastest, Their also Gaming Z which I believe is faster then X edition.
So in that type of config, make sure both fans are facing the proper direction and not "facing" each other of that makes sense. Otherwise the air is going nowhere but to your rad.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
So Gaming X would be the recommended one to get? Out of those 3?
Also, would my i5-6600k bottleneck it too much?
Thanks for the reply.
And yeah, I was expecting that answer haha.
I'm going to wait a bit more to see if 1080 cards drop some more. (Hopefully)
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Tempted to upgrade my 970, but not sure whether to get a 1080 or 1070
What resolution and target framerate?
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
60fps, 1080p or 1440p
GinoFelino
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Ok kids
You young ones raised on the old PC can help out an old, struggling man like myself
I have a new PC and I have it connected to a 1440p monitor (primarily) and a 4K TV (for games like Mass Effect). The TV is in another room from my mouse/kb/monitor.
What display settings should I use for when I want to switch to a game on my TV? Do I set to duplicate, or dual monitor setup, or what? What's the easiest way to switch 'modes' from TV games to monitor games?
You young ones raised on the old PC can help out an old, struggling man like myself
I have a new PC and I have it connected to a 1440p monitor (primarily) and a 4K TV (for games like Mass Effect). The TV is in another room from my mouse/kb/monitor.
What display settings should I use for when I want to switch to a game on my TV? Do I set to duplicate, or dual monitor setup, or what? What's the easiest way to switch 'modes' from TV games to monitor games?
1070 would be ok but I'd go 1080 for 1440.
I'm going 1080Ti for 3440x1440@60Hz, but I'm also going 4k@60 Gamestreaming.
Custom PCB has better cooling.
Yes, I have the gaming X in my one PC, well worth the price.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
One more change before you update the image again.
I'm pretty sure the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5 mobo isn't +$170 compared to the ASUS 370 Prime X370-PRO.
RamaTheVoice
Member
It's a damn good card, I can vouch for it.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Love the OP btw.
In the previous thread I had noted my dilemma with buying an i5 and picking the 1070 as my graphics card. However I was able to return the i5 (lucky me) and pay $100 more for the i7 so now I have the 7700K 4.2GHz which should more than capable to pair with the 1070. But I'm stuck again with my build and having slight anxiety over the motherboard.
I'm going for a large case so space isn't my issue but compatibility. Since this is a Kaby Lake processor I'm not sure if these things can work on any motherboard. I'm seeing things on some boxes saying specifically "(whatever the previous gen was called) ready" but none that specifically say kaby lake ready. So because of that, I don't want to buy something that doesn't work. PCPartPicker says everything is fine but I don't know if it's correct all the time. The current motherboard I have for my build is Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard. Has anyone had any issues with pcpartpicker being wrong and am I okay or can anyone recommend me a good motherboard if this is not compatible?
In the previous thread I had noted my dilemma with buying an i5 and picking the 1070 as my graphics card. However I was able to return the i5 (lucky me) and pay $100 more for the i7 so now I have the 7700K 4.2GHz which should more than capable to pair with the 1070. But I'm stuck again with my build and having slight anxiety over the motherboard.
I'm going for a large case so space isn't my issue but compatibility. Since this is a Kaby Lake processor I'm not sure if these things can work on any motherboard. I'm seeing things on some boxes saying specifically "(whatever the previous gen was called) ready" but none that specifically say kaby lake ready. So because of that, I don't want to buy something that doesn't work. PCPartPicker says everything is fine but I don't know if it's correct all the time. The current motherboard I have for my build is Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard. Has anyone had any issues with pcpartpicker being wrong and am I okay or can anyone recommend me a good motherboard if this is not compatible?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Z170's are technically compatible but requirw a BIOS update, as they're made for Skylake. It's Z270 you want for a kabylake board. There's some references to look at in Haz' builds.
opticalmace
Member
Get a Z270 board.
A custom PCB is just a custom PCB. You are missing the point. There is nothing inherent in the specific PCB that dictates how it's cooled.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
What was the dilemma? Is this the bottlenecking paranoia again?
Custom cards have better cooling because of, well, their cooling. PCB is irrelevant.
lostsupper
Banned
If the PCB has more efficient power delivery, cooling will be more efficient.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
opticalmace
Member
Was outbid
Would my i5-6600k bottleneck a GTX 1080?
6600k is fine, just make sure you OC that sucker.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Already done at 4.4ghz
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Fair enough but practically speaking the improvement in cooling is because of what's sitting on top, which the poster may have been referring to anyway.
opticalmace
Member
Already done at 4.4ghz
Nice. I would probably do some number crunching to figure out what makes the most sense between the 1070, 1080 or 1080 Ti. I know the prices have changed recently, so see how much % improvement you get for your dollar between them before deciding on one of the models imho.
What resolution/refresh rate are you playing at?
Well spotted, I've made that edit. The prices were originally based on Newegg/Amazon, so I can only assume when we updated it the pricing on Newegg was some high default value.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
1080p monitor atm, aiming for 60fps
I intend to get a 1440p or 144fps monitor soon