Soodanim
Gold Member
Good point, thanks. I forgot to mention I the plan was to run them all at low speeds where possible in the hope that it would be enough, but maybe I should just stick with the KISS principle.
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LavitzSlambert
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Rate my new build fellas. Thanks
HoodWinked
for the Newegg deal post!
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($430.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard ($160.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($55.00)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($110.00)
Video Card: MSI VANGUARD SOC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($882.00)
Power Supply: Super Flower LEADEX VII Platinum PRO 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($210.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard ($0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse ($0.00)
Total: $1885.00
Includes a Super Flower m705 case which came free with the PSU, for some reason couldn't find it on PCPP.
HoodWinked
for the Newegg deal post!PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($430.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard ($160.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($55.00)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($110.00)
Video Card: MSI VANGUARD SOC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($882.00)
Power Supply: Super Flower LEADEX VII Platinum PRO 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($210.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard ($0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse ($0.00)
Total: $1885.00
Includes a Super Flower m705 case which came free with the PSU, for some reason couldn't find it on PCPP.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL9 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL10 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA SC GAMING ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $0.00
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL9 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL10 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA SC GAMING ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $0.00
peish
Member
You only live onceJust pulled the trigger on a 6500 dollar build
nemiroff
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LavitzSlambert
Member
Just pulled the trigger on a 6500 dollar build
Please tell me more than half of that is a 5090.
Yerd
Member
Probably a 5070ti. Good deal....
I just started a new job in September and making good chunk more than my last job. After figuring I have a lot more cash flow, I still can't overpay for these god damn GPUs. I have considered buying a prebuilt so I could gut the GPU, but that would leave me with a useless machine I don't want to deal with. Newegg had a refurb PC with a 5090 for under $4k, I nearly bought.
I'm waiting for a 5090 that is $2200 or less, or now the 5080 super. I'm not going to settle for a 16gb gpu.
Corporal.Hicks
Member
I'm looking to purchase an OLED monitor and have some queries.
Does the DSC input lag cause a slight delay to mouse movement, or is it not noticeable? I have read some posts about that in the past and I'm a little bit worried. If DSC really adds weight to the mouse movement I'm willing to pay a premium for DP 2.1.
My 2'nd question. I know I want QD-OLED, but I still can't decide between a 1440p, 500 Hz panel a 4K, 240 Hz. The 500 Hz refresh rate is tempting, but I've read about text fringing issues with 1440p QD-OLEDs. My viewing distance with my current 27'inch monitor is 80 cm. Would the fringing be noticeable from that distance?
And my last question. Is the Peak 1000 HDR mode usable on current QD-OLEDs monitors, or it's better to use HDR 400 in order to avoid noticeable ABL brightness fluctuation? I have read reddit post that suggests that limiting the HDR brightness in the game settings (or windows 11 settings) to 800 nits could solve the ABL problem to some degree. Has anyone here tested this advice and can confirm whether it works?
Does the DSC input lag cause a slight delay to mouse movement, or is it not noticeable? I have read some posts about that in the past and I'm a little bit worried. If DSC really adds weight to the mouse movement I'm willing to pay a premium for DP 2.1.
My 2'nd question. I know I want QD-OLED, but I still can't decide between a 1440p, 500 Hz panel a 4K, 240 Hz. The 500 Hz refresh rate is tempting, but I've read about text fringing issues with 1440p QD-OLEDs. My viewing distance with my current 27'inch monitor is 80 cm. Would the fringing be noticeable from that distance?
And my last question. Is the Peak 1000 HDR mode usable on current QD-OLEDs monitors, or it's better to use HDR 400 in order to avoid noticeable ABL brightness fluctuation? I have read reddit post that suggests that limiting the HDR brightness in the game settings (or windows 11 settings) to 800 nits could solve the ABL problem to some degree. Has anyone here tested this advice and can confirm whether it works?
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hey squad. Im going to build my Corsair 2000D build today with my 19 yr old son. He is building his first pc next week when the parts arrive.
Just going to pick him up and ill post updates here. Didn't want to make a new thread.
Corsair 2000D
9800X3D
Asus B850i
9070 XT
1tb 980 pro Samsung ripped from my old ps5 as a system drive
4tb corsair gen 5 nvme
360mm radiator
1000 watt sff psu.
Win 11 pro
I'll post pics soon.
Wish me luck.
This is going to be for my front room to go alongside the ps5 pro, series x and switch...soon to be switch 2.
Boom...so excited....once it posts
Just going to pick him up and ill post updates here. Didn't want to make a new thread.
Corsair 2000D
9800X3D
Asus B850i
9070 XT
1tb 980 pro Samsung ripped from my old ps5 as a system drive
4tb corsair gen 5 nvme
360mm radiator
1000 watt sff psu.
Win 11 pro
I'll post pics soon.
Wish me luck.
This is going to be for my front room to go alongside the ps5 pro, series x and switch...soon to be switch 2.
Boom...so excited....once it posts
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LavitzSlambert
Member
My parts came in and I plan to build tomorrow as well. Good luck fellow 9800X3D builder!
nemiroff
Member
Almost. 5090 indeed, but also 8TB of m.2 drives, a solid motherboard to handle them, 5 years warranty, weak currency, 25% VAT and the infamous European tax (bloated prices).
Crayon
Member
Upgrading a little ahead of the usual schedule, but I plan to rock this for a long time. I had to overpay $150 on the 9070 XT. I run linux so rdna4 is the only choice for a late model gpu. I paid $750. If it ever gets below $700, joke's on me I guess. Getting a good bundle deal and doing a whole new machine lets me sell the old one complete. So ~$700 to trade up partly absorbs the sting of paying more for the card.
With the small modular psu, this was going very smoothly. But then the case wouldn't get along with the 9070 and that bitch caught the dremel for it's insolence. Now, you can lift that card straight out. The mobo has one of those release buttons I can poke at and those side fans don't even need to be removed. It turned out pretty airy inside and the case is 2/3 mesh so I'm not worried about temps. This would have been a real pain to do and stuffed full of cables with a standard size psu with a permanent harness. Glad I spent more for that.
With the small modular psu, this was going very smoothly. But then the case wouldn't get along with the 9070 and that bitch caught the dremel for it's insolence. Now, you can lift that card straight out. The mobo has one of those release buttons I can poke at and those side fans don't even need to be removed. It turned out pretty airy inside and the case is 2/3 mesh so I'm not worried about temps. This would have been a real pain to do and stuffed full of cables with a standard size psu with a permanent harness. Glad I spent more for that.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Probably the best you can do in this environment. The 5070 Ti is the least poorly priced GPU from nvidia right now.Rate my new build fellas. Thanks
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($430.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard ($160.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($55.00)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($110.00)
Video Card: MSI VANGUARD SOC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($882.00)
Power Supply: Super Flower LEADEX VII Platinum PRO 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($210.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor ($0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard ($0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse ($0.00)
Total: $1885.00
Includes a Super Flower m705 case which came free with the PSU, for some reason couldn't find it on PCPP.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL9 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 CL10 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA SC GAMING ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL White LED Backlit (Brown Cherry MX) Wired Standard Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $0.00
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
ummm yeah...about that....
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Youll be happy with the 9070XT. Its a solid GPUUpgrading a little ahead of the usual schedule, but I plan to rock this for a long time. I had to overpay $150 on the 9070 XT. I run linux so rdna4 is the only choice for a late model gpu. I paid $750. If it ever gets below $700, joke's on me I guess. Getting a good bundle deal and doing a whole new machine lets me sell the old one complete. So ~$700 to trade up completely absorbs the sting of paying more for the card.
With the small modular psu, this was going very smoothly. But then the case wouldn't get along with the 9070 and that bitch caught the dremel for it's insolence. Now, you can lift that card straight out. The mobo has one of those release buttons I can poke at and those side fans don't even need to be removed.It turned out pretty airy inside and the case is 2/3 mesh so I'm not worried about temps. This would have been a real pain to do and stuffed full of cables with a standard size psu with a permanent harness. Glad I spent more for that.
Crayon
Member
Damn so I updated my bios and went the the settings blah blah. Went to install bazzite and it won't happen. Tried the desktop and htpc rolls. Read of a problem with gpu conflict so removed the card, no different.
Although I was on bazzite happily for three months, it was Nobara for over 2 years. Maybe more. That installed just fine just now so I don't mind seeing what they're up to. Already a few things look different.
Edit: tried the htpc version of nobora, goes on fine but I found the full game scope "steam deck" session instantly causes the black screen I was getting on bazzite. So that was the issue, and I doubt steamos itself would be different. Could be wrong there. Too bad but should eventually be fixed.
Although I was on bazzite happily for three months, it was Nobara for over 2 years. Maybe more. That installed just fine just now so I don't mind seeing what they're up to. Already a few things look different.
Edit: tried the htpc version of nobora, goes on fine but I found the full game scope "steam deck" session instantly causes the black screen I was getting on bazzite. So that was the issue, and I doubt steamos itself would be different. Could be wrong there. Too bad but should eventually be fixed.
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LavitzSlambert
Member
I feel like an old man, ran into so many things new to me since my last build.
- AM5 board and X3D chip IHS (used just a bit too much thermal paste and made a mess)
- Punch-out expansion slot covers?
- 12HVPWR connector
- GPU support rods and bracket
- M2 slots and heatsinks
- PWM and ARGB lights
- XMP profiles and GOOD UEFI BIOS
- Working around Windows account/online requirement
- Almost no papers/manuals included
- AM5 board and X3D chip IHS (used just a bit too much thermal paste and made a mess)
- Punch-out expansion slot covers?
- 12HVPWR connector
- GPU support rods and bracket
- M2 slots and heatsinks
- PWM and ARGB lights
- XMP profiles and GOOD UEFI BIOS
- Working around Windows account/online requirement
- Almost no papers/manuals included
drotahorror
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Crayon
Member
Okay so the new machine has been on the side of the couch hooked up to a portable monitor and mini keyboard since late saturday. I was doing sessions getting it set up optimally for our loungeflow, and it's pretty good now. After checking out a few of these new distros that have the game mode (console-style) sessions, I found that sadly, Wife won't like operating like that (subtleties of aforementioned lougeflow). So I took the desktop variant of cachy.
I got it to a pretty good spot. So I swapped it under the TV. First game: Wife christened it with red dead 2. Everything going well, playing great. I still haven't started a game. She offered to clean out the previous 'puter so I can sell it.
I didn't expect the rgb on the card to cast that much light out of the mesh case. When it was open and in bright light, the rgb did not look that strong. But I don't hate it. The potentially bisexual glow in the white entertainment center is kinda nice.
Cachyos is new to me so I'm watching my back. Seems great so far. It's supposedly got all kinds of optimizations I don't understand. It definitely has the latest updates for gaming related stuff. Helpful when you are on linux and have hardware that just came out. I advise against that in general, but it seems RDNA4 is working well already.
Using a gnome desktop with some extensions that turn it into a kind of classic desktop, but for kids. Like Duplo to Lego. Regular start button and task bar layout, but minimal and chunky. Perfect for operating with an air mouse.
Loving this one, so far. We'll see how it goes. I'll love it more when the old one is sold.
I got it to a pretty good spot. So I swapped it under the TV. First game: Wife christened it with red dead 2. Everything going well, playing great. I still haven't started a game. She offered to clean out the previous 'puter so I can sell it.
I didn't expect the rgb on the card to cast that much light out of the mesh case. When it was open and in bright light, the rgb did not look that strong. But I don't hate it. The potentially bisexual glow in the white entertainment center is kinda nice.
Cachyos is new to me so I'm watching my back. Seems great so far. It's supposedly got all kinds of optimizations I don't understand. It definitely has the latest updates for gaming related stuff. Helpful when you are on linux and have hardware that just came out. I advise against that in general, but it seems RDNA4 is working well already.
Using a gnome desktop with some extensions that turn it into a kind of classic desktop, but for kids. Like Duplo to Lego. Regular start button and task bar layout, but minimal and chunky. Perfect for operating with an air mouse.
Loving this one, so far. We'll see how it goes. I'll love it more when the old one is sold.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Not really a PC upgrade, but I upgraded my 65 inch LG C1 to a C4, gaining access to 144Hz and DTS:X using eARC.
Going from 120 to 144 is admittedly not a huge upgrade, but having access to DTS:X is quite nice.
I found DTS:X to be much more lively than Dolby Atmos on my HTPC.
There are a ton of new settings I am having to play around with an learn.
Going from 120 to 144 is admittedly not a huge upgrade, but having access to DTS:X is quite nice.
I found DTS:X to be much more lively than Dolby Atmos on my HTPC.
There are a ton of new settings I am having to play around with an learn.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You better be at MC the day of release as AMD has started playing the fake MSRP game.
I bet it will have an MSRP of $899, but sell for $1000 - $1200.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I see overheating!Okay so the new machine has been on the side of the couch hooked up to a portable monitor and mini keyboard since late saturday. I was doing sessions getting it set up optimally for our loungeflow, and it's pretty good now. After checking out a few of these new distros that have the game mode (console-style) sessions, I found that sadly, Wife won't like operating like that (subtleties of aforementioned lougeflow). So I took the desktop variant of cachy.
I got it to a pretty good spot. So I swapped it under the TV. First game: Wife christened it with red dead 2. Everything going well, playing great. I still haven't started a game. She offered to clean out the previous 'puter so I can sell it.
I didn't expect the rgb on the card to cast that much light out of the mesh case. When it was open and in bright light, the rgb did not look that strong. But I don't hate it. The potentially bisexual glow in the white entertainment center is kinda nice.
Cachyos is new to me so I'm watching my back. Seems great so far. It's supposedly got all kinds of optimizations I don't understand. It definitely has the latest updates for gaming related stuff. Helpful when you are on linux and have hardware that just came out. I advise against that in general, but it seems RDNA4 is working well already.
Using a gnome desktop with some extensions that turn it into a kind of classic desktop, but for kids. Like Duplo to Lego. Regular start button and task bar layout, but minimal and chunky. Perfect for operating with an air mouse.
Loving this one, so far. We'll see how it goes. I'll love it more when the old one is sold.
Crayon
Member
It's pretty airy in there. There's no backside to the entertainment center (those should be called "tv tables"). It's four of five inches on the left there, but giving it the hand test, the side intake flow is strong and the card is pushing some exhaust out the side. I thought about that gpu exhaust getting drawn into those intakes right above, but doesnt seem to be an issue. The temperature difference between those higher and lower parts of the side panel is dramatic, so it seems to be working.
I'll give it a whipping one of these nights and let you know, though! I'll stress it, but I actually will be running the card with a small underclock and big undervolt in practice. With the card doing 300w+, it's going to pump out (or not lol) a lot of heat and summer is coming.
twilo99
Member
I usually get a new mouse every 2-3 years and I'm sure many of you here would understand how special this moment can potentially be lol
It's a big departure for me since I've always used relatively big mice (20x11 hand size), but I've been reading that if you can handle a small mouse it could potentially improve your aim, so I went for the latest Pulsar X2 CL and of course fell for the LA marketing thing... it's a cool color tho and I'm bored of black.
37 grams with the stock skates. Impressive stuff and I've been able to beat all of my kovaaks records so maybe there is something to this whole small mouse with a soft/control pad thing.
It's a big departure for me since I've always used relatively big mice (20x11 hand size), but I've been reading that if you can handle a small mouse it could potentially improve your aim, so I went for the latest Pulsar X2 CL and of course fell for the LA marketing thing... it's a cool color tho and I'm bored of black.
37 grams with the stock skates. Impressive stuff and I've been able to beat all of my kovaaks records so maybe there is something to this whole small mouse with a soft/control pad thing.
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LavitzSlambert
Member
How's it looking guys? Ended up with the Phantom Spirit over the Peerless Assassin, the black/metal colors looked better once I got everything into the case. I'll take some more pics with the LEDs on and glass closed later (once I figure out the software).
Look at absolute unit that is the 5070ti compared to a 1070, despite the actual PCB being smaller. I know it's using a 5080 cooler 3.5 slots thick, but still.
Actually, I'm considering harvesting the 1070 from my old machine and slotting into the two bottom PCIe slots to use as a dedicated Physx for some older games like BL2. It should fit just fine, but the slots are only PCIe 3.0 x1. Would this be a terrible idea? I have no idea the performance impact. My PSU is 1000w.
If so, I'll probably re-arrange my GPU cable routing over the top to make room. Or should I do that anyway? Can't tell if it looks better or not.
Look at absolute unit that is the 5070ti compared to a 1070, despite the actual PCB being smaller. I know it's using a 5080 cooler 3.5 slots thick, but still.
Actually, I'm considering harvesting the 1070 from my old machine and slotting into the two bottom PCIe slots to use as a dedicated Physx for some older games like BL2. It should fit just fine, but the slots are only PCIe 3.0 x1. Would this be a terrible idea? I have no idea the performance impact. My PSU is 1000w.
If so, I'll probably re-arrange my GPU cable routing over the top to make room. Or should I do that anyway? Can't tell if it looks better or not.
Hoddi
Member
Text fringing is really only an issue when using black text on a white background. But you should ideally be using dark mode with an OLED anyway and white text on a grey background doesn't manifest that same fringing. I at least consider it a non-issue in that sense and wouldn't shy away from 1440p if you will be using dark mode.
I also have that same panel mentioned in the Reddit post and I've always just used HDR1000 mode. It does suffer a bit of crushing when trying to display near-black but I've never noticed any ABL fluctuations during actual gameplay. I can't speak for other QD-OLEDs but I had no idea this was even an issue until I read about it online. HDR1000 otherwise looks fantastic on it and much better than HDR400 except for that black crush that happens in some games. It would obviously be better without it but it's still perfectly usable in most games.
Just don't overspend on the display. OLED monitors are evolving pretty fast these days and you might want a newer one in the next few years.
Yerd
Member
I'm trying not to buy from MC. It's an hour+ drive and sales tax added. I live in a state with no sales tax.
Physx is removed from 50xx
From wiki:
Now I suppose your old geezer GPU could run it since its not a 5x, but I think it's probably not worth it IMO. It's being phased out.
LavitzSlambert
Member
I don't think it would run well on a 1070 alone in this case, but what about as a dedicated PhysX card to get around the removal of 32-bit PhysX? Seems like most people buy a cheap 1050 or something like that, figured I'd make use of what I already have unless it's a bad idea. There are several games I haven't played from that era that I'd like to experience.
Soodanim
Gold Member
This is entirely subjective, but I wouldn't think it's worth it.
Here's every game affected by RTX 50 series dropping PhysX 32-bit support
We now have a compiled list of all 32-bit PhysX games affected by Nvidia's decision to drop support on its latest RTX 50 series GPUs.
www.pcguide.com
As far as I'm aware none of these games will fail to run, they just won't have the extra PhysX stuff. Personally I wouldn't be too bothered about the extra cloth and debris physics for the sake of the extra power consumption.
That being said, I don't know how much power draw it would take to engage an older card just for PhysX.
I still have my 970 and 1660ti sitting about, but I went AMD so I have no use for either!
Corporal.Hicks
Member
That's what I noticed. "Computex" coverage has made me realise that better OLED monitors will be available soon. Current 32-inch, 4K, 240 Hz QD-OLEDs are still Gen 3 panels, and it seems Samsung has drastically improved the durability and brightness of Gen 4 panels. LG will also raise the bar soon with its tandem WOLEDs (better colours, brightness) and may use finally RGB pixels instead of relaying on white subbpixel. We will also see very impressive true black coating on WOLED monitors. It's probably a good idea to wait a little bit longer, but every time I look at my LCD screen, I'm tempted to buy something right away! Maybe the best thing to do is to buy some cheap OLED now, and just replace it 3 years from now on like you suggest.
This is a screenshot from Vincent Teoh's (HDTVtest) review of the Asus PG27UCDM QD-OLED monitor. Although it is a Gen 4 panel, the 30% brightness improvement has been used to reduce the pixel size and improve pixel density, meaning that the HDR brightness is the same as Gen 3 panels. "Console HDR" on the left is "peak 1000" mode. As you can see HDR 400 picture is clearly brighter. Reddit post I linked suggest that 800-nit limit can reduce that ABL dimming and make it look as bright as HDR 400, but with additional 800 nits highlights in dimmer scenes. That would be a good compromise, assuming what this Reddit user wrote is true.
Peak 1000 vs HDR 400
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Yerd
Member
So I did some googling because the answer actually interested me.
It seems like the older games really get hit hard. Something like first 2 batman games go from low 30fps to over 100fps with a dedicated physx card. I guess I was completely wrong in my previous post. It does seem to be worth it, if you want to play those games. I didn't realize how badly physx ran on CPU. I don't know that I would ever play any of those games at this point, but you never know. I suppose my assumption was they removed it because the tech worked fine with the current level of hardware.
Here's a few links that have some good info.
A Redditor has a solution for the lack of PhysX support with the RTX 50 series: running two GPUs
It's like a bizarre tag team.
www.xda-developers.com
Recommended PhysX card for 5xxx series? [Is vRAM relevant?]
Hey, I hope to make a list of cards and answers here, not just for me but for future use, since this will be needed not just for 5XXX series but all future nvidia generations. so im looking into buy some cheap, preferably no power connector gpu to use for when decide to play older Physx game...
www.techpowerup.com
Crayon
Member
Card is cool but there is something up with the 9600x. It act's like that cute little cooler is either falling behind (but the tdp is a miserly 65w) or I installed the cooler poorly. I just chopped the clocks and dumped the voltage for the time being. If I have time to goof around on the weekend, I'll check it in a few different scenarios like open area, panel off, big fan on it, etc to get a little better picture. I am seeing wide reports of this cpu getting hotter that you'd think it should, though.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Holy Jesus,
If you want a 5090 and are fucking rich and live in the DFW area.
My local Microcenter has around 100 of them in stock from various brands.
The bad news?
The cheapest one is $2759.
They also have a 4090 from PNY for $2500...
www.microcenter.com
Please dont buy this.
If you want a 5090 and are fucking rich and live in the DFW area.
My local Microcenter has around 100 of them in stock from various brands.
The bad news?
The cheapest one is $2759.
They also have a 4090 from PNY for $2500...
Graphics Cards : Micro Center
Microcenter.com has the best deals on the latest Nvidia Graphics Cards & AMD Graphics Cards and more available at your local Micro Center Computer Store!
Please dont buy this.
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draliko
Member
My 7900xtx is probably dead, but I'm lucky as I'm getting my money back, so now it's time to buy something new. Here in italy prices for the 9070xt are starting to be normal again (asrock for 680€), but I'm eyeing also the 5070ti (prices around 850€)... I'm sincerely inclined toward the 9070xt, what are your suggestions? Rig is 1440p G7 monitor, 7800x3d and 32gb ram, 2x1tb nvme.
No need to buy something right now as eventually I could play on consoles, but I don't think prices will get lower in the short time.... (Redstone should be compatible with 9070xt right?).
No need to buy something right now as eventually I could play on consoles, but I don't think prices will get lower in the short time.... (Redstone should be compatible with 9070xt right?).
Crayon
Member
Wow this shit got old lol. Believe it or not, I've never got a part that had rgb before. I thought I was going to try to customize it but after a week I just flipped off the switch on the card completely. There is still a very faint glow coming from the ram and I don't mind that. The gpu was a fucking laser light show. Surprisingly, it was not distracting, but wore out it's welcome anyway.
Crayon
Member
Redstone def compatible with rdna4. The only reason to feel any pressure rn is based on whether you think the gpu "market" (such an annoying dynamic to pay attention to) is close to fair as it will get atm and going to get stupid again. In the us, I figured 9070xt won't get below $700 and economically, things are shaky here. So I ate shit paying $150 over msrp to just shore up now and put it out of mind. I had my last two gpus practically free, anyway. Bought them both rock bottom and sold/selling for almost the same I paid.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I am really happy I went with AIO water cooling it's a lot more quiet.
Anyway anyone thinking that with 80 eurodollars games and 700 eurodollars consoles PC gaming isn't quite as insane?
Anyway anyone thinking that with 80 eurodollars games and 700 eurodollars consoles PC gaming isn't quite as insane?
Crayon
Member
At least those prices are real. The gpu market has been on and off weird for years now where you have to speculate on prices to know when to buy and sell cards. And they ain't cheap. Idk which is more crazy but they're at least comparable.
draliko
Member
Considering our prices includes vat, 680/700 for a 9079xt seems right to me (22% vat here in Italy), don't think they will get any lower... From 680 to 850(the 5070ti) is quite a stretch for nearly the same performance (without considering that driver side seems Nvidia is really bad this time)... Time to check some real world benches on yt
TheRaidenPT
Member
I love my 7900XTX but damm am I tired of my Upscaler options sucking... I might wake up one day crazy and get myelf a 5080 and move this card to my 2nd desktop..
Yerd
Member
No lies have ever been lied harder than this lie.
You can't even game without rgb. RGB is life. Just like shrek.
Soodanim
Gold Member
In all honesty there's not much of an answer to give with no supporting information. Current build, current performance, desired performance, and budget would be bare minimum
Crayon
Member
I did buy a mechanical keyboard for work. When I plugged it in, it lit up like a christmas tree. It was a real crowd pleaser so I always left the lights on. Wasn't for gaming, though!
Corporal.Hicks
Member
I finally ditched my old 27-inch, 1440p LCD monitor to 4K 240Hz QD-OLED (gigabyte FO32U2), and I can't imagine going back to LCD now. The difference in contrast is staggering and colours look even better than on my old Panasonic GT60 plasma TV. I was expecting to see purple or black tint during the day, becasue that's what was shown in the photo comparisons on YT, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that the blacks are great even during the day (with lots of ambient light). I would need to shine a strong light directly onto the panel to start seeing that purple tint and raised blacks. Even my LCD monitors with a matte finish didn't produce such good blacks or contrast during the day.
4K is also very usefull and I dont feel I'm lossing anything compared to my previous 27'inch 1440p monitor. My OLED has 24'inch 1440p picture mode and it looks very good. Also, the 1800p resolution on my 32-inch OLED TV is the same size as the 1440p resolution on my old 27-inch LCD TV. The smaller screen is very useful for first-person shooter games, so I'm planning to use use this resolution often.
I was afraid that VRR flicker would be a huge problem in dark games, but to my surprise, I can barely see it, even at 30 fps. That flickering looks like 50 Hz flickering on a CRT (it's there, but it's tolerable). I cant see VRR flicker at all with anything at 60fps and above.
HDR looks fantastic too. On my monitor the HDR peak 1000 picture more is clearly better than HDR400 (it is often much brighter, and highlights are not clipped). I was surprised at how bright my monitor was, even in SDR mode. Even an extremely dim CRT shader mask (such as the Sony Megatron) that requires 600 nits of brightness looks bright enough when playing in SDR. On my previous HDR 400 LCD the same mask look way too dim even in HDR.
This is like having a big ARCADE CRT monitor. Photos dont do the just, but the quality is insane. Also I can use 1080p mode to get equivalent size to 14 CRT and my monitor gets even brighter. I HAVE NEVER SEEN 240p / 480p games in better quality.
My only complaint is the DSC. II have seen a few black screens, but it seems that the latest Gigabyte firmware has fixed these problems. What's more DSC also has noticeable input lag (it clearly affected my aim, even more than DLSS FG). My monitor also has a DSC switch, so I can get 240fps without DSC, but only at 1440p.
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Saiyan-Rox
Member
I'm really out of the loop with gaming hardware on PCs so was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a rig under 1k in the UK? (GBP)
prefer not to build it myself (I'm clumsy) don't care about ultra settings or anything like that. My monitor is 1440p/120htz
Long as I can get 60fps on modern games on med/high I'd be happy. Is this even possible anymore?
prefer not to build it myself (I'm clumsy) don't care about ultra settings or anything like that. My monitor is 1440p/120htz
Long as I can get 60fps on modern games on med/high I'd be happy. Is this even possible anymore?
Could anyone take a look at this build and suggest if I could pick better parts . Monitor will be a LG c4 48 inch 144hz. Please and thank you. Also I have not ruled out a 5090
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/ZDbhYyZqvB/
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/ZDbhYyZqvB/
LavitzSlambert
Member
Relevant to all your interests, most likely.
It's still a bad time, damage has been done. No relief on the horizon yet.
peish
Member
looks good, but i supposed you can tweak around and have this
B850 and X870E have little difference to most.
You give up USB4 but you can use 1 more nvme SSD without halving your PCIex16 GPU lanes.
Asus B850 Tuf has better VRM and PCB layout on paper than Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite.
Asus also have better and faster bios updates
For €4 more, you get
- 1TB+2TB SSD, secondary 2TB SSD for your steam Xbox games drive.
- no RGB ram, lowers temp and power draw by a bit.
-360mm H2o cooler
-1000W PSU for a bit more headroom in future
-most 5080 are mostly the same