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I think I'm going to join the military.

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doncale

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Have fun in Iraq.

shit! that's exactly what I thought of to say when I read the subject title.


yeah, have fun in Iraq. or more likely, Syria or Iran. or maybe even Twian!


kidding.

Insertia: if you do join, be sure to get a DESK JOB :)
 

Megafoo Chavez

I love EGM
Che said:
Kill people - become a lunatic - get killed: For Bush and the rest of the criminals -----> Not worth it

Kill people - become a lunatic - get killed: For oil companies -----> Not worth it

Kill people - become a lunatic - get killed: For weapons dealers -----> Not worth it

Kill people - become a lunatic - get killed: For money -----> Not worth it

Kill people - become a lunatic - get killed: For going to college -----> Not worth it

That sums it up.

ok, reading this just learnt me brain dumber. I need to go shower now.
 

Insertia

Member
etiolate said:
Did you start this thread so everyone would talk you out of it?

Somewhat.
Some of you guys scare the shit out of me with your "hope you enjoy having bullets flying pass your head" or "Be sure to write your will before going" blather. Thanks for the encouraging words guys.
Admittedly, that almost changed my mind, but when it comes down to it, I can't be afraid of death. Chances of me dying are slim and there is a lot of good that'll come out of this for me.

Overall, I'm 95% sure I'm going to do this. When I talk to the recruiter tomorrow I'll let him know and sign all of the papers that'll prepare me.
 
They make you write a will anyways. That's standard if you go in a warzone. Even if you don't go into a warzone you should write a will if you have any sort of property (even if it is just clothes).
 
Insertia said:
Somewhat.
Some of you guys scare the shit out of me with your "hope you enjoy having bullets flying pass your head" or "Be sure to write your will before going" blather. Thanks for the encouraging words guys.
Admittedly, that almost changed my mind, but when it comes down to it, I can't be afraid of death. Chances of me dying are slim and there is a lot of good that'll come out of this for me.

Overall, I'm 95% sure I'm going to do this. When I talk to the recruiter tomorrow I'll let him know and sign all of the papers that'll prepare me.

insertia, I hope it goes well for you! I know multiple people serving, 2 of them in the war, 1 in Tikrit (!!!), and I am proud of them both.

Make sure to take the good and bad of the American military experience and only allow it to make you a better person... one day when you are done with the military, you'll have experienced so much that can hopefully propel you forward in life with a new outlook and vigor... it also looks great on a resume for a reason; its such a learning experience.
 

way more

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doncale said:
Insertia: if you do join, be sure to get a DESK JOB :)


Just know that the military is under no obligation to give you whatever job you request. It is up to thier discrestion. I don't care what your recruiter tells you unless you test remarkably high on the ASVAB expect to be somewhere shitty upon completion of boot camp. When did you make this decision? It sound like you talked to the guy yesterday and suddenly think it's a good idea.
 
my dad served 20 years in the AF, and happily burned all of his uniforms once he was out.

army = Aint Ready for Marines Yet

:lol

and omg, the air force's boot camp and training courses are A JOKE. (i run the training courses when i'm in the damn hospital here) but, HEED THIS WARNING, do NOT come down between may-september or you'll end up the ER from heat exhaustion.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I think it's the job of these recruiters to make the military sound as glorious and rewarding as possible, when the reality is that it's shit, especially during wartime.

HFII
(Have Fun In Iraq)
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
So much bunk info in this thread I have been in the millitary for 2 and a half years have not even come close to going to Irag. Even if I do go it would not be a front line job. You do relize not everyone who joins the millitary is a killing Machine. I work com, my job is just as important as anyone elses.Good for you if you decided to serve your country and if you dont that is your choice, that is the great thing about America, you are not forced to join.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
"that is the great thing about America, you are not forced to join."

.........YET!
 

KingV

Member
Insertia said:
Yep, that's what I'm going to do.
A marine recruiter just called me, he kind of talked me into a meeting tomorrow. I never really gave it any thought, but why the hell not? I'm out of school, doing nothing, no job, kind of bored. I'll be going somewhere and meeting people and I've always wanted to try out bootcamp (thanks Full Metal Jacket). :D

Plus they'll pay for college. I can pay for it myself, but, 'eh. I'll let you taxpayers do it.

I think it'll be a good experience for me considering at this point in my life I have no guidance. I planned to dive directly into school, but the military would be a good stopgap.

Any reason not to?

I'm an officer in the Navy, if you're serious about joining the military I'll be more than happy to give you some guidance (and try to steer you towards the best choices for you, feel free to PM me if you have questions). If you have the right grades/SAT's or have college under your belt, you may be eligible for an officer program. This is a much more lucrative path, albeit with more responsibility. There are also a number of programs for enlisting that can lead you more quickly down the path of becoming an officer, if you so choose or cater to somebody who is intelligent and technically inclined, for of course, better pay.

If you're serious about joining the military, think long and hard about what things you like to do, and what you want out of the military. All three branches have pluses and minuses. I'd examine all four services, and the Coast Guard before making a decision on one. You might find that you like another branch better.

Also, my best advice is don't take your recruiter's word at face value, There are many good recruiters out there that will be straight up with you, there are quite a few that will promise you things that they can't rightfully promise you. There are many excellent opportunities in the military, but if it sounds to good to be true ask for the promises made to you in writing. Don't let the recruiter hassle you into something you're unsure about, you're not a Marine yet, don't let them completely railroad you.

If you don't want to be "in the shit" so to speak, you may not want to join the Marines. They certainly are on the ground more often than Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard. They're a special case in that very few of their support services are supplied by Marines, thus most of their jobs are fighting jobs (there are exceptions, however). The brotherhood in the Marines is very strong however, and they will certainly get you into shape.

Good luck with your decision!
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
demon said:
"that is the great thing about America, you are not forced to join."

.........YET!
Whatever theAirforce(theonly branch I have any info about since Iam in it) is trying to get rid of peple something like 3000. There will never be a draft again,trust me, plenty of people join the millitary everyday.
 

KingV

Member
demon said:
I think it's the job of these recruiters to make the military sound as glorious and rewarding as possible, when the reality is that it's shit, especially during wartime.

HFII
(Have Fun In Iraq)

That's a gross oversimplification. The military offers a great sense of accomplishment to those who are looking for that. You can have much more training and responsibility at a young age than almost any other profession. How many people under 25 are trusted with the responsibility to look out for their co-workers lives and even their everyday decsions, or have driven a billion dollar warship knowing that hundreds of people are depending on them to do their job correctly, and in a larger sense an entire country. I'm more proud of the things I've accomplished in my 1 year in the Navy than graduating college or anything else I've done in my life.

Granted, in many people's views, my job sucks, I work longer hours than any of my civilian friends and have to deal with copious amounts of bullshit at times. Sometimes, it can really piss me off, but in the end the rewards are worth it (to me). Some people get in thinking they'll do this for the rest of their lives and hate it, some people get in get money for college than go, and some think they'll get out after theire initial commitment and stay in for the rest of their lives. The military is not a job for everybody, but like any job it offers its own rewards and penalties. It's certainly not "all bad" by any means.
 

KingV

Member
themadcowtipper said:
Whatever theAirforce(theonly branch I have any info about since Iam in it) is trying to get rid of peple something like 3000. There will never be a draft again,trust me, plenty of people join the millitary everyday.

Shit, the Navy is cutting back by a third. We're regularly kicking out officers that don't make it in their initial training pipelines. It's really screwed some guys.
 

KingV

Member
Badabing said:
That said, is there any way someone like myself would be able to "study" for the ASVAB? I don't want to do too bad. :(

It measures baseline education, math/science capability, some character, and various technical proficiencies, it's probably somewhat unlike any test you've ever taken. I'm not sure how you'd study for it.
 

KingV

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Orin GA said:
I thought it was the army (ground) that always went into battle before the marines

Army mobilizes very slowly as a whole, due to the way their forces are structured. Marines are primarily a fighting force, but not really equipped for long occupations. They can generally get there quicker, but are more supported by Naval forces for artillery/air support than the Army. Army can bring a much more commanding ground presence long term, but the Marines are king of the hill at storming beaches.
 

firex

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for some reason everybody in my high school had to take the ASVAB during our senior year, and I apparently did real well on it (of course it was easy as shit for the most part, I thought) so I got recruiting calls for the next 3 years until I finally told them there was no way I'd join. anyway in my experience on the ASVAB, you just don't have to be retarded to do well on it.

I've got nothing against serving the country, but there's no way I'd willingly put myself into a position where I'd have to kill somebody.
 

Phoenix

Member
Insertia said:
Somewhat.
Some of you guys scare the shit out of me with your "hope you enjoy having bullets flying pass your head" or "Be sure to write your will before going" blather. Thanks for the encouraging words guys.
Admittedly, that almost changed my mind, but when it comes down to it, I can't be afraid of death. Chances of me dying are slim and there is a lot of good that'll come out of this for me.

Overall, I'm 95% sure I'm going to do this. When I talk to the recruiter tomorrow I'll let him know and sign all of the papers that'll prepare me.

If you don't know for certain DON'T SIGN ANYTHING! I will repeat that again - if you aren't 100% sure that this is the path you want to take in life DON'T SIGN ANYTHING.
 

way more

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firex said:
for some reason everybody in my high school had to take the ASVAB during our senior year, and I apparently did real well on it (of course it was easy as shit for the most part, I thought) so I got recruiting calls for the next 3 years until I finally told them there was no way I'd join. anyway in my experience on the ASVAB, you just don't have to be retarded to do well on it.

I've got nothing against serving the country, but there's no way I'd willingly put myself into a position where I'd have to kill somebody.

We all had to take the ASVAB at our school. One of my friends actually joined the Army and he said they checked his scores and asked why the hell someone as smart as himself would want to join. That shit was easy, they had a gear turning question for Gods sake.
 

KingV

Member
Phoenix said:
If you don't know for certain DON'T SIGN ANYTHING! I will repeat that again - if you aren't 100% sure that this is the path you want to take in life DON'T SIGN ANYTHING.

IAWTP.
 

KingV

Member
mac said:
We all had to take the ASVAB at our school. One of my friends actually joined the Army and he said they checked his scores and asked why the hell someone as smart as himself would want to join. That shit was easy, they had a gear turning question for Gods sake.

In many cases, this is actually the kind of things they want to know about. It seems asinine, but many many people are not technically inclined.
 
i have to say, since i receieve treatment at lackland AFB, where the AF trains all their newbies, it's really cool to meet all the brand new technicians who work in the hospital.

they're younger than me(i'm 21...) and they have SO MANY responsibilites, it's scary. much respect to them. it's also fun chatting with them about their stories and vice-versa.
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
mac said:
We all had to take the ASVAB at our school. One of my friends actually joined the Army and he said they checked his scores and asked why the hell someone as smart as himself would want to join. That shit was easy, they had a gear turning question for Gods sake.
Millitary is about the little details.
 

TheDuce22

Banned
I was in the Air Force for 4 years. The best advice I can give is DO NOT pick any job related to maintenance of aircraft. Trust me when I say this, AT LEAST half of the Air Force gets paid to sit around and do nothing but suck up tax money. Thats the side you want to be on. :)

Edit: Also the asvab is pretty easy. If your of average intelligence you can qualify for almost any job.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
I was going to join the Air Force earlier this year, (mostly because I wanted to get my ass back to Japan somehow, and they have a base or two there) but the recruiter started talking about Iraq a little too much. 'Oh, even the Air Force tents in Iraq have Air Conditioning' and 'If we send you to Iraq you'll most likely not see any action unless you're a flyboy' and the like. I changed my mind in a heartbeat. I'm a military brat and all, but i'm also a commie hippie motherfucker. Wouldn't have worked out, I don't think :)
 
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