Rhazer Fusion
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Well, that depends on what type of games you were into. If you even remotely like fighting games or RPG's which were both quite popular back in that era, the N64 was absolutely horrible.
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I think the N64 is Nintendo's worst machine and era
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Well, that depends on what type of games you were into. If you even remotely like fighting games or RPG's which were both quite popular back in that era, the N64 was absolutely horrible.
Jubenhimer
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You're preference to this list is subjective, but much of what I listed scored pretty well on metacritic.
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N64 was just a Goldeneye machine for me. Never liked any other game on the system that I played.
Interfectum
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I agree OP. N64 is basically what turned my young fanboy love away from Nintendo. N64 basically had Goldeneye inside the system for 95% of it's life.
SavoyPrime
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But...what about the great AKI-developed wrestling games???
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They're alright. They're not arguments for why the Wii should be over any other system. Nobody looks at the Wii and thinks "Oh, the console that brought us De Blob". I owned both of these games because the Wii had no games and I didn't have a 360 yet when they came out, but I couldn't tell you anything about them even though I beat them both. Largely forgettable.
It had the best console Pokémon games by faarrr dude
Pamplemousse
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I agree, OP. Out of all their consoles, the N64 has to be the one I like the least. Every other gen is pretty amazing, though.
Randomizer
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Lol come on, I really like the Wii U and it had some fantastic games but it's not even close. Worst of the era is debatable but I'd rank it higher than the Saturn personally. Whilst it's library is relatively small it is full of absolute classics.
I'd take Metroid Prime 3, Xenoblade and Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn over anything on N64.
Jubenhimer
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Maybe not, but they're still good games that deserve a look. If you want a better showcase for a reason to own a Wii outside of casual gaming, No More Heroes or Metroid Prime 3 would be better examples.
I was and will also be into fighters so i see what you are saying but the n64 was still my system of choice.
I won't disagree with that. I'll admit my tastes can be peculiar. At the same time we don't have clear criteria for what constitutes "Best" and "Worst" era. If most revolutionary = Best than I'd agree with the vast majority. However I think if the criteria is best overall library taking both quality and quantity into account I think you could get a plurality to agree that the N64 was Nintendo's worst machine.
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I want to say that neither of those games is worth spending money on today unless you can get them for like $10 and have no backlog. And I mean even they're better than most of the stuff on your list. Like Elebits which was poorly received despite being a launch title (at least launch window).
I'd say Wii is worth having for Galaxies, Rhythm Heaven, Donkey Kong, Prime 3, Xenoblade, Punch Out, and Zack and Wiki. Outside of that? GameCube versions of games ported to the Wii are generally better, like TP Pikmin and Prime. That's basically it as far as the greats go.
I think some people really have thick nostalgia glasses on when it comes to the Wii. Either that or they're young and the Wii was their first or second console.
If you look at Metacritic, outside of the Wii U, objectively Wii is the worst mainline Nintendo console ever.
Subjectively, it had garbage controls, garbage eye bleeding graphics in an HD era, and, outside of the Galaxies and Mario Kart, some of the worst Nintendo output ever, including some of the worst games of Nintendo franchises. Not to mention garbage tier Nintendo games like Wii Music.
True, though some opinions (like the OP's) are pants-on-head silly.
If someone doesn't think Conker is a great game, they shouldn't be allowed to give their opinion on games.
Badmouthing Mario Kart 64 can be excused if they didn't have friends during the N64 era, but only in that case.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The Wii U has had no Fire Emblem and no Metroid, and less notable 3rd party games than the N64.
And uh... The fuck? No Pokémon? Stadium 1 and 2? Snap? Pokémon Puzzle League? Hell, even Hey You, Pikachu!. Whatchu smoking bro? N64 was the best Nintendo home console by a huge margin when it comes to Pokémon games. Wii U just has Pokken and the garbage that was Rumble U.
Jubenhimer
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Last I checked, Elebits has roughly a 74 on metacritic. Hardly call that poorly received. Regardless of your opinion though, the games I listed are generally considered worth looking at or owning.
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No, that's super poorly received, especially for a launch title game with very low expectations. Elebits is pretty representative of how mediocre the Wii era was, that's the only reason I ever think about it.
breakfuss
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I mean, idk how you can even begin to form that opinion when we have Mario 64, OoT, Goldeneye, Smash Brothers, Banjo Kazooie... theses games defined fucking genres. Haptic feedback? Analog control. Things we take for granted in the console space. Give me a break OP. Sure, graphics from this gen have aged terribly but still. You must be 12 or something.
That doesn't exempt this terrible ass opinion from ridicule.
That doesn't exempt this terrible ass opinion from ridicule.
Jubenhimer
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The Wii had a lot of underrated and over-looked gems under it's belt, and far from the worst output of a Nintendo console. Ever tried Xenoblade or Rhythm Heaven. And The controls were fine when games used them properly, as they say, don't blame the tool blame the person using it. I'd agree on lack of HD though, but only because HD grew much quicker than anticipated.
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Xenoblade and Rhythm Heaven are in the very short (not a lot) list of Wii games that people remember well. This is like saying "Ever heard of Mario Galaxy? Metroid Prime 3? Donkey Kong Country Returns anyone?"
Not if you consider the controllers.. those analog sticks aged horribly
Hatty
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I find it hard to go back and play N64 games. I'd much rather play Wind Waker, Mario Galaxy 2, Thousand Year Door, or many other classic Nintendo games released before and after the N64. It's certainly the system that has aged the worst, even it's competitor the PS1 aged more gracefully.
Voysa Reezun
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Hot take:
The Virtual Boy has more good first-party games than the Gamecube.
Fuck the Gamecube. That's the real worst machine Nintendo's ever put out.
Jubenhimer
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That's not super poorly received. Super poorly received would be a 51 or 40, basically Sonic 06' levels of reception. 74 is not a bad score, and it's a shame that people think only games with a high 80 or 90+ on metacritic is worth buying.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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I don't mind the graphics, but the library was indeed pretty shitty overall, especially compared to it's main competitor the Playstation and it is really hideous with a goofy controller. We still got some all time classics out of it, but that wasn't enough to make it a great system overall. One of Nintendo's worst is a fair thing to say.
Nah, those are games that wear the year they were created on their sleeve. MK64 whilst being a pretty awful racer can kinda get a pass just for being so horrifically flawed that it can end up being hilarious. Conker on the other hand is just plain dire as a game, and not just a collection of jokes.
In regards to what Titanoboa says about games not being worth spending money on today... I'd actually argue that this is very much the case with even much of the Nintendo 64's more prominent titles. Stuff like Mario 64 is still great, but some of the others whilst they were pretty amazing at the time, have aged terribly. Playing GoldenEye multiplayer today is awful, and not something I'd subject anyone without a massive amount of nostalgia to (and even then I'd advise them not to ruin their nostalgia). Jet Force Gemini is a worse game than pretty much any random TPS lining the shelves today. Killer Instinct Gold wasn't even good back then relative to 2D fighters on Saturn and PlayStation, let alone today.
I couldn't disagree more. A few examples of why the N64 is one of Nintendo's best consoles: Mario 64 is the best 3D mario game. WWF No Mercy is the best Wrestling game still to this day. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are two of the best Zelda games. The Banjo Kazooie games are 2 of the best platformers. Goldeneye and perfect dark are absolute classic console shooters and are still a ton of fun with a group of friends. Mario Kart 64 is one of the best Mario kart games. The list goes on and on. N64 was amazing.
Hatty
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It can't be the worst when it had games of the generation Metroid Prime, Pikmin 2, and Paper Mario: TTYD on it. Not to mention Wind Waker which is arguably better than Ocarina of Time
If you don't have any friends to play with it maybe wasn't a great console; however WWF No Mercy, WCW/NWO Revenge, Madden 96, Mario 64, Road Rash 64, Mario Party, that one tank game, Pokémon Snap, Pokémon Stadium, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64, Duke Nuremberg 64, fucking the best version of Doom in Doom 64, Resident Evil 2, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark...All these games begin to differ. It was a great fucking system.
Art Vandilay
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Well I personally loved the N64. Yeah, it may have lacked RPGs but I didn't know what an RPG was at the time (unless Zelda counts).
Mario 64 blew my mind though. I'm not sure I've ever gotten so much entertainment out of a single player game since. It was in a league of its own at the time in my opinion.
And you didn't even mention Goldeneye or Mario Kart 64. They were both fucking gems and combined made the system worth a purchase. No telling how much time I wasted with friends on these titles.
Mario 64 blew my mind though. I'm not sure I've ever gotten so much entertainment out of a single player game since. It was in a league of its own at the time in my opinion.
And you didn't even mention Goldeneye or Mario Kart 64. They were both fucking gems and combined made the system worth a purchase. No telling how much time I wasted with friends on these titles.
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So you're saying it's not as bad as Sonic 06, and therefore deserves a place on the list of best Wii games. I mean sure, but that's not exactly a compliment to the Wii.
Metroid Prime alone is better than every single virtual boy game, and there's two of them.
MisterGrey3000
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Honestly yeah.the Wii was pretty great imo; it was clearly the product of a very confident, comfortable, competent, and focused Nintendo.
I'd personally take it over the N64 any day, and that's keeping in mind that I've got a healthy amount of nostalgic fondness for that console.
How was that rock you were living under?
Dr. Feel Good
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I don't agree. The Rare output alone is absolutely nuts when you consider what they created in such a short span of a few years. So many tremendous first party games with a quality (yet thin) layer of third party support. It was an amazing time to be a gamer back then with Nintendo.
Ninja Scooter
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It's got an extremely top heavy lineup. It's top 5-8 games are like 5-8 of my favorite games of all time, but there is just a huge drop off there. I held off as a Nintendo fanboy but after the delays and droughts I eventually had to get a PSone. I can't imagine someone being N64-only during those years. It was like a basketball team with 2-3 all time greats in their lineup but no depth.
F-Zero GX is enough for me to rank the Gamecube over the Virtual Boy. I still play it occasionally. Others like its Smash Brothers game a lot too (but I've never gotten into that series). While Mario Sunshine is weak compared to other Mario games, I'd still rank it above most of what's on the Virtual Boy. Wave Race also well.
But yeah, I sold my Gamecube ages ago, and just kept a few games to play on the Wii since its compatible.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Both of mine still work perfectly. :3
The worst post in the history of GAF right here.
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the Galaxy games were absolutely generation defining. Gamecube had Wind Waker. Wii U may not have anything 'generation defining' but it has games like Bayo 2, Splatoon, and 3D World, which are all incredible.
DeuceGamer
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Couple things... Doom 64 is NOT a port but an original game.
Also, Wii U has more shooters than Splatoon.
Call of Duty Black Ops 2
Call of Duty Ghosts
Devils Third
Splinter Cell
Couple Hunting Games
Jubenhimer
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The list I posted wasn't a list of the best Wii games, but simply a list of good games period. Elebits got a decent score, therefore, it's generally considered a decent game.
Nope The Wii just isn't as memorable even with your list over the N64. The Wii isn't a bad system and has some great experiences but in a one on one comparision with the 64 loses pretty handily.
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