If you have a wii U and a copy of xenoblade, put dat on your gamepad

While it may not "disgust" me I can see his point. It just feels wrong.

It's better to play on the real thing if possible.
If possible
That's the keyword. What happened to the guys who don't live in US? I guess not playing it at all is much better solution, right?
 
I can't even begin to understand such a mentality.

I mean come on; disgust you? Seriously? Come on, man.

Sometimes I feel like people with this kind of mentality would enact laws that force us to buy a corporation's product. I mean we should be thankful these gracious corporations even allow us to purchase their amazing products, right?! How dare we offend their great works!
Nintendo has die hard fans, shocking news :o
 
While it may not "disgust" me I can see his point. It just feels wrong.

It's better to play on the real thing if possible.
If using an original Wiimote w/ sensor bar to play Skyward Sword on my 50" plasma in native 1080p is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 
While it may not "disgust" me I can see his point. It just feels wrong.

It's better to play on the real thing if possible.

Well, in that case if it offends him so much, I hope he's against e-books and digital music, too. I'm sure those authors and composers from hundreds of years ago didn't intend for their works to be consumed in such a manner, but here we are. And no, it's not different just because it's the mainstream way to do things now.

Also, I've played Xenoblade "the real way" on my 42" Panny plasma and it looked like ass. I'll take playing it on Dolphin over that any day.

Nintendo has die hard fans, shocking news :o

I'm a pretty big Nintendo fan too, but damn. A line has to be drawn somewhere.

If using an original Wiimote w/ sensor bar to play Skyward Sword on my 50" plasma in native 1080p is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Amen.
 
People dont like buying games used for the simple fact that they're, well used, the discs arent in perfect condition, they have been somewhere you dont know, they most of the time dont come in the full packaging, and well, it gives atleast some of the money to the person it matters most, which could be another sale of thousands that could influence the future of the franchise.
I've only had bad discs a handful of times over my many years of gaming and used shopping
Who cares where theyve been, im gonna out it in a console not take it out for dinner. Who is going to get the money for a 3 year old wii game
 
I have Wii U and Xenoblade. In fact I bought Wii U because HDMI output of the Wii U makes Wii games look less shitty (I guess Wii U has a good scaler).

Can't play Xenoblade on Dolphin because I sold my Wii and can't rip the disk any more.
 
I've only had bad discs a handful of times over my many years of gaming and used shopping
Who cares where theyve been, im gonna out it in a console not take it out for dinner. Who is going to get the money for a 3 year old wii game

Just want to state this isnt my own personal feelings on most of my points, its just why people generally dont like getting preowned games
 
Buy Xenoblade, rip the disc and play it on Dolphin. It's totally legal and makes the game look so much better. I have the feeling Dolphin does more right to the game than the Wii does.
 
No, it's not. Trust me, it's not. I can only imagine someone who has never used or never been able to use Dolphin saying this.

Of course Dolphin is great. No denying that. I don't have access to a Wii or GC anymore so I personally use dolphin now for the time being til I get a WiiU and when Nintendo gets off their lazy ass and does a GameCube VC

But if given the choice, I prefer playing the games on original hardware/
 
If using an original Wiimote w/ sensor bar to play Skyward Sword on my 50" plasma in native 1080p is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Nah, you are right. It works for you and tons of others.

I just don't think I could do it. But I've always liked a heavily modulated and currated experience. Abiding by the experience layed out. I do realize it is old-fasioned. But I'm old. Sorry for being a bit harsh on the words. Usually I just keep to myself but the negativity recently surrounding Nintendo maybe had gotten to me.

But something inside me just does not gel with going inside a game, so-to-speak, and messing with texture presentation. And not using the actual hardware seems crummy.
 
Dude, you are playing on a PC. A Nintendo game, on a PC. That is fucking gross.

Not to mention that you have to mod your Wii (even soft mod). Even fucking grosser.

Then you have to fiddle with settings. No thanks. I'll play it on the Wii proper.

Lmao, I remember you. Same guy who said the vita oled screen was bad compared to the 3ds screen.
 
Nah, you are right. It works for you and tons of others.

I just don't think I could do it. But I've always liked a heavily modulated and currated experience. Abiding by the experience layed out. I do realize it is old-fasioned. But I'm old. Sorry for being a bit harsh on the words. Usually I just keep to myself but the negativity recently surrounding Nintendo maybe had gotten to me.

But something inside me just does not gel with going inside a game, so-to-speak, and messing with texture presentation. And not using the actual hardware seems crummy.

You could say you're altering the presentation, yes, but once you realize it's the exact same content, merely at a higher resolution, you understand why the fact that it looks 10 times better is the only thing that changes.
 
Lmao, I remember you. Same guy who said the vita oled screen was bad compared to the 3ds screen.

Never said it was bad. Just that I prefer the 3DS screen to the Vita screen. And that I'm also looking forward to the new Vita 2000 as the original is a bit too high-end and big and heavy.

You could say you're altering the presentation, yes, but once you realize it's the exact same content, merely at a higher resolution, you understand why the fact that it looks 10 times better is the only thing that changes.

But not all original assets are at the same res originally, right. I sometimes check out the dolphin screen-shot thread and seems like a lot of games have issues with UI being different res, etc.

Also, it is on a PC. I've never owned one and I find them very hard to learn.
 
I need to finish Wii U. Been playing it bit by bit between releases on my Wii U, but ever since New Leaf I haven't really had a gap in my gaming time.
 
Just as a sidenote - was it ever figured out why Wii Games played through HDMI on Wii U look so blurry, like SS for example? Am i doing something wrong or did they always look that bad? :(
 
Just as a sidenote - was it ever figured out why Wii Games played through HDMI on Wii U look so blurry, like SS for example? Am i doing something wrong or did they always look that bad? :(

I thought tests had shown that the games look BETTER on Wii U as a result of the HDMI over component?
 
Xenoblade deserves much better than 480 x 800. Dolphin is the only true way to play it.
So it is getting 480 * 800 now? On Wii it was anamorphic 640*480.

US Wii, Pal Xenoblade. almost OP
Homebrew is possible (the smash bros method won't install anything either but it is a hassle having to load brawl each time). Heck homebrew can make Gamecube playable on Wii U (not sure if it is Camecube discs of backups only).

Playing on a SD TV made it look great too (better than a HD TV). There's no reason to shrink the screen down to 6 inches.
My SD CRT is 4:3 so the game being 16:9 downscales the screen effectively to 640*360 (or thereabouts) which is not much bigger than that.

Just as a sidenote - was it ever figured out why Wii Games played through HDMI on Wii U look so blurry, like SS for example? Am i doing something wrong or did they always look that bad? :(
I think the game uses some sort of bloom filter. I seem to remember emulation-wise filters only worked properly at native resolution. Also there are colour depth problems.
 
Not much irks me as a gamer.

But modding, unofficial emulation, modding to break region-lock, monkeying with official releases...these thing truly disgust me. Playing console games on PC is so wrong. All these things I find incredibly disrespectful and offensive. Play games on the consoles they were made for...or at least wait for official solutions. If they don't arrive, so what.

Nintendo offers Wii playback on the gamepad as an option and the OP is excited and instead we get folks coming here with their crap Dolphin statements. Disgusting. There is a dedicated thread for all that stuff.

As an aside: I've never owned a PC, and likely never will. I'll certainly never use one to play console Nintendo games.

Think of the best game you've ever played. Heck make it best 5 games you've ever played. Now assume they never released in your region.

Now would you soft mod the region lock and play those amazing games (in a legal manner)? Or would you willingly choose to miss out on the best gaming experiences you've ever had because the concept is digusting?
 
I thought tests had shown that the games look BETTER on Wii U as a result of the HDMI over component?

In the US, Wii U's upscale Wii games. EU Wii U's had this feature removed for no reason.

It looks awful. Much worse than if i was to play it straight from the Wii via component.
 
Just as a sidenote - was it ever figured out why Wii Games played through HDMI on Wii U look so blurry, like SS for example? Am i doing something wrong or did they always look that bad? :(

Check your HDMI channel is properly calibrated maybe? Contrast, sharpness all that jazz.


There really isn't much difference apart from HDMI signal being less noisy than componant, other than that Wii games will look like they normally do.


In the US, Wii U's upscale Wii games. EU Wii U's had this feature removed for no reason.

It looks awful. Much worse than if i was to play it straight from the Wii via component.

EU WiiU will upscale when using HDMI.
 
Now would you soft mod the region lock and play those amazing games (in a legal manner)? Or would you willingly choose to miss out on the best gaming experiences you've ever had because the concept is digusting?
(not to be defense force or anything) Yes Boss! likes arcade shooters and even owns PCBs for a number of them so is more than prepared to import the hardware. Softmod or suffer is a false dichotomy in this case. Personally from a financial standpoint I'd prefer softmod and am irritated when it is not available but I do not berate people prepared to import hardware (and all the warranty troubles it brings).
 
Check your HDMI channel is properly calibrated maybe? Contrast, sharpness all that jazz.


There really isn't much difference apart from HDMI signal being less noisy than componant, other than that Wii games will look like they normally do.




EU WiiU will upscale when using HDMI.

Oh yeah it does, i get so confused between terms!

I just remember reading that NTSC hardware might re-render or something but the EU hardware doesn't. I'll have to check the settings.

EDIT: Seems some games just come out worse than others. I.e Brawl just looks better than Skyward Sword. Weird.

Thanks! :)
 
The OS of the Wii was hardcoded on each game disc. So when the game launched, the game used the OS version on the actual game disc. So each game would only be able to use the peripherals known to its version of the OS. Hence you can't use WiiU gamepad or controller pro in them.

The only way would be to re-write the Wii firmware so that it doesn't use the OS version on the disc. Don't know how feasible/possible that it.
Wouldn't it be easier to make the Wii U GamePad act like a CCPro in order to trick the game into thinking one is plugged in? The GamePad is clearly running outside of the Wii environment hence why is can display its own messages when you press a button.
 
(not to be defense force or anything) Yes Boss! likes arcade shooters and even owns PCBs for a number of them so is more than prepared to import the hardware. Softmod or suffer is a false dichotomy in this case. Personally from a financial standpoint I'd prefer softmod and am irritated when it is not available but I do not berate people prepared to import hardware (and all the warranty troubles it brings).

I get that. But if we are talking about a modulated and curated approach as what playing only the way Nintendo (or any other company) intends, then importing falls in a similar grey area. Yes you can import just like you can soft mod or whatever, but it's obviously not something Nintendo intended for you to do, otherwise they wouldn't have region locked in the first place
 
I've played over 500 hours of Xenoblade. Playing it through the Wii for the first time when it cane out here in 2011 was an unforgettable experience.

Doesn't change the fact that the next time I played it in 1080p on my TV via Dolphin. it ran smooth as silk, and it blew my motherfucking head off.

It was absolutely fucking shittingly amazing.
 
It's pretty cool but I'd rather play on a Television. Unless you lie down you'll probably have a neck issue after a while. But it is neat.

The few. The proud. Yet another owner of a Wii U and Xenoblade.
 
Think of the best game you've ever played. Heck make it best 5 games you've ever played. Now assume they never released in your region.

Now would you soft mod the region lock and play those amazing games (in a legal manner)? Or would you willingly choose to miss out on the best gaming experiences you've ever had because the concept is digusting?

I'd probably import a system, then.

No, I would not soft-mod. I do without first. Xenoblade was not coming to NA and I did not order it from EU. Neither from Japan since I don't speak the language.
 
Wouldn't it be easier to make the Wii U GamePad act like a CCPro in order to trick the game into thinking one is plugged in? The GamePad is clearly running outside of the Wii environment hence why is can display its own messages when you press a button.

I wouldn't even mind if it needed some kind of adapter or a cable to plug into a wii remote so it could send controller signals via bluetooth if thats the problem.
 
In Yes Boss!'s favour emulation isn't perfect as some people make it out to be.

I played enough of Xenoblade with the special build to declare it as being pretty much identical in performance. Other than the insane increase in image quality.

Also, in the case of something like BSNES, yes, it is as perfect as it's made out to be.
 
That is because the screen is so small that the 480p pixels don't get enlarged too big and thus making image quality decent.
 
Not much irks me as a gamer.

But modding, unofficial emulation, modding to break region-lock, monkeying with official releases...these thing truly disgust me. Playing console games on PC is so wrong. All these things I find incredibly disrespectful and offensive. Play games on the consoles they were made for...or at least wait for official solutions. If they don't arrive, so what.

Nintendo offers Wii playback on the gamepad as an option and the OP is excited and instead we get folks coming here with their crap Dolphin statements. Disgusting. There is a dedicated thread for all that stuff.

As an aside: I've never owned a PC, and likely never will. I'll certainly never use one to play console Nintendo games.

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as one of the 23 people in the world with xenoblade, a wii u, and a dolphin running 1080p on a TV, i feel obligated to chime in here, heh:

as beautiful as dolphin is, its not exactly as easy as some people here are suggesting. especially if you do it the legal way. you gotta put some effort into it, but it is pretty amazing looking. that being said, xenoblade is probably one of the easier games to run on dolphin because you can just use a 360 controller

i actually just bought a wii classic controller for the first time, to use with the U gamepad in wii mode
 
My computer runs Dolphin like shit so I do prefer the Wii U option (since I have the game and the console). Never tried playing on the Game Pad though, seems to be very uncomfortable.
 
Not much irks me as a gamer.

But modding, unofficial emulation, modding to break region-lock, monkeying with official releases...these thing truly disgust me. Playing console games on PC is so wrong. All these things I find incredibly disrespectful and offensive. Play games on the consoles they were made for...or at least wait for official solutions. If they don't arrive, so what.

Nintendo offers Wii playback on the gamepad as an option and the OP is excited and instead we get folks coming here with their crap Dolphin statements. Disgusting. There is a dedicated thread for all that stuff.

As an aside: I've never owned a PC, and likely never will. I'll certainly never use one to play console Nintendo games.

Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with this. If you own the game and own the system and can play them on even better hardware to make your experience even better, there's nothing wrong with that.

Playing Gamecube and Wii games in 1080p has revived my interest in them.

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as one of the 23 people in the world with xenoblade, a wii u, and a dolphin running 1080p on a TV, i feel obligated to chime in here, heh:

as beautiful as dolphin is, its not exactly as easy as some people here are suggesting. especially if you do it the legal way. you gotta put some effort into it, but it is pretty amazing looking. that being said, xenoblade is probably one of the easier games to run on dolphin because you can just use a 360 controller

I had a modded Wii anyway. I booted up CFG USB Loader and copied the game to my hard drive. Plugged that into my PC, downloaded the right build of dolphin and just loaded the game straight from the HDD.

It was incredibly easy.
 
Whoa whoa, you can have Wii playback on the Gamepad? No idea this existed. That's awesome.

Well, it just functions as a little TV screen. Kinda neat but more a curiosity. Gamepad also has some issues with displaying reds properly so you are gonna have to deal with that a bit. Think of those little jank screens that used to fit atop the PS1/Gamecube...kinda like that but better quality.

Shines for Rhythm Heaven, though.


Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with this. If you own the game and own the system and can play them on even better hardware to make your experience even better, there's nothing wrong with that.

Playing Gamecube and Wii games in 1080p has revived my interest in them.

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I already apologized for being a bit negative. But, no, I'd hate to play Gamecube like the image.
 
Playing console games on PC is so wrong. All these things I find incredibly disrespectful and offensive.

...How is that offensive? WTF

Also, if I was a GC/Wii developer and I see people playing my games on an emulator with HD resolution, I would actually be pretty impressed and thrilled at seeing my game looking pretty enhanced.
 
I had a modded Wii anyway. I booted up CFG USB Loader and copied the game to my hard drive. Plugged that into my PC, downloaded the right build of dolphin and just loaded the game straight from the HDD.

It was incredibly easy.

you also have to download a patch to fix the FPS if you had the PAL version of the game, you also have to make sure you run it with OpenGL to make sure it runs smoothly, and figure out which audio setting works best for you, as no sound setting works perfect with xenoblade and it will stutter and pop
 
Well, it just functions as a little TV screen. Kinda neat but more a curiosity. Gamepad also has some issues with displaying reds properly so you are gonna have to deal with that a bit. Think of those little jank screens that used to fit atop the PS1/Gamecube...kinda like that but better quality.

Shines for Rhythm Heaven, though.



I already apologized for being a bit negative. But, no, I'd hate to play Gamecube like the image.

Yeah, I'm partly red color blind and even I can tell that the reds on the gamepad are not as vibrant as they are on my TV.
 
I played enough of Xenoblade with the special build to declare it as being pretty much identical in performance. Other than the insane increase in image quality.

Also, in the case of something like BSNES, yes, it is as perfect as it's made out to be.
BSNES is pretty much an exception. I was sticking with the topic at hand which was Dolphin. While I haven't used it myself I've lurked the thread plenty and I have seen many pics that people rave about simply because they are in HD despite some very obvious graphical errors if you are familiar with the original game. Also considering how long BSNES took and the power you need to run it I think it's fair to say that Dolphin isn't quite up to that standard yet.
 
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