Iggy Azalea: Why Didn't Eminem get the same backlash from the Grammys?

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In hip hop I find it similar to that episode of Scrubs where they determine it's difficult for a black man to be a doctor but even more difficult for a black woman to be a doctor. I think the reverse is true that it's hard for a white man to be a rapper and even harder for a white woman to be. This is all based on a level of acceptance by the population.

No, its because for whatever and however far Em has fallen, he is still recognized as one of the dopest lyricist to make it to mainstream hip hop. She absolutely has not earned putting herself besides him as if its the same thing.

Or maybe just because Eminem is/was good and she's not.

This times a million.
 
People bringing up Iggy's racism and homophobia, how do you rationalize that when Eminem is just as or more racist than Iggy? It's not like Eminem's lyrics are a paradigm of progressive thinking.

exactly my thoughts. I don't listen to Iggy so i am not against or with her but it's funny how people bury her for making racist and homophobic remarks when a large majority of rappers makes remarks like those within their lyrics.
 
As I said in the other thread.

Vast majority of Iggy fans aren't fans of the genre, they're the kind of people who go "I hate rap...Iggy is the only good artist" (sometimes they like to say things like being fans of the golden age, while they have another tab open looking up the most popular songs and lyrics of said songs of the 90s).

Vast majority of fans of the genre don't like Iggy because they think she's wack as fuck on all fronts.

Everyone likes comparing Iggy to Eminem and that's just dumb and not fair to Em. Outside of their skin color they're nothing alike. One is talented as fuck the other is not.

With that stated, notice how Iggy and Nicki rap about the same things, one is demonized for it the other is loved for it. Iggy talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch mainstream media love it. Nicki talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch. Mainstream wants her to be a role model for the black community.

FOH.

Agreed.

Although I would say that Nicki actually has talent.
 
No, its because for whatever and however far Em has fallen, he is still recognized as one of the dopest lyricist to make it to mainstream hip hop. She absolutely has not earned putting herself besides him as if its the same thing.

Should you be recognizing him after the remarks he's made and the blatant lack of change regarding that? People bring up Iggy's tweets but seemingly don't want to acknowledge Eminem's wrongdoings.
 
No, her music is legitimately amazing. I listen to trap gold and the new classic almost every day. Great production, interesting lyrics, etc. She's awesome and I feel like most people just hate on her because she's a (white) woman. She's put out the best rap since maybe kanye's or 50's early stuff? People need to get off the high horse and accept that's shes a great artist.

I find her to be kind of dim-witted with the level of ignorance she's spouted in her twitter and her response to the media, but I love Black Widow and Fancy. Such fun songs to listen to.

Let's not pretend like Iggy's hit songs aren't held afloat by catchy hooks done by far more talented (and likeable) artists.

This is so true. I pretty much only care about the chorus in her songs, none of her try-hard rapping.
 
Does Iggy Azalea even write her own raps? Seems weird that an emcee that doesn't write her own songs or produce her tracks is so concerned with her place in hip hop legend.

She is in the wrong line of work if she can't take criticism.
 
Girl Gone.

Let's not pretend like Iggy's hit songs aren't held afloat by catchy hooks done by far more talented (and likeable) artists.

It's not her nails-on-a-chalkboard bordering on racist caricature fake accent. It's not her incredibly poor flow or arrogant persona. Oops, didn't she go running from Twitter cuz she couldn't handle the criticism despite all the bile she's spewed on Twitter herself?

Call me when Igor manages to do a song on her own that smashes. People are here for her hooks, nothing more

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I'm done lol
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Because Marshall is good, you Igloo...only when you have someone else more talented like Charli XCX or Ariana Grande to help carry you.
 
Wait, except Iggy gets all sorts of shit?

Not really. She's the darling child of mainstream media at the moment. The only people who are giving her shit are the people who've been pointing out the hypocrisy.

Iggy hasn't had ET saying that women calling themselves bitches is horrible. She definitely hasn't had mainstream media telling her to be a responsible role model for the white community. She hasn't had mainstream media say that shaking her ass is degrading and she should be ashamed and that she's embarrassing women then in the next segment go on location for the Sports Illustrated bikini model issue and then cover the Victoria's Secret Show then Miss America/Universe pageants.

Anyone who says the two are being treated exactly the same by the mainstream media is delusional.

Iggy is being ridiculed by hip-hop fans and some closet racists for being wack as fuck. Nicki gets ridiculed by entire industries (and closet racists) for embracing and expressing her sexuality.

While in reverse, hip-hop fans and the hip-hop community like Nicki and Iggy gets ridiculed by them. I mean there is a reason that Nicki gets called for collabos with male artists ALL the time and why nobody from the industry is calling on Iggy. Hell even in the pop genre people call on Nicki way more than they call on Iggy. Your favorite female popstar has probably done a song with Nicki. That same popstar has probably never heard of Iggy.
 
She's partially right. Iggy is just the logical result of industry preferential treatment; same preference that allows for Em to have more grammies than Nas, Jay and Outkast combined. People don't say anything about Em because he's actually incredible (and they're scared), though.
 
90% of rappers have said things way more homophobic. The entirety of Odd Future drops "faggots" like they're nothing. I don't really see the big deal over what she said.
 
Rap glorifies the hustle.

Iggy hustles her way to fame and fortune.

GAF gets mad.

Anyone that gets mad at her are doing so on the basis of her relative wackness and utter disrespect of the artform and culture she is profiting from.
 
Did Azealia apologize for this too?

I wonder if she doesn't mean any of that either ;___;

Everybody is bothered by Iggy, her success. They should embrace the idea that she's here to stay. Buy Trouble on iTunes tbh.
did you even read what i posted or

anyway trouble is flopping so yeah you should get on that
 
She's partially right. Iggy is just the logical result of industry preferential treatment; same preference that allows for Em to have more grammies than Nas, Jay and Outkast combined. People don't say anything about Em because he's actually incredible (and they're scared), though.

My question is though, what do people have to be scared about when it comes to Eminem. Is it his demeanor?
 
No, her music is legitimately amazing. I listen to trap gold and the new classic almost every day. Great production, interesting lyrics, etc. She's awesome and I feel like most people just hate on her because she's a (white) woman. She's put out the best rap since maybe kanye's or 50's early stuff? People need to get off the high horse and accept that's shes a great artist.

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Eminem has been trash for a decade yet wins Grammys by default. Does anyone outside of a handful of some sorry ass per-pubescent white people think MMLP2 was the best rap album of 2014?
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He's technically a great rapper...or at least, he was. As others have said, Em put the work in and is OF the culture; he lives and breaths hip hop, always has always will. He's not some scrub who started rapping a couple years ago, tried to become a pop singer, tried modeling, etc before deciding to become a shitty rapper. She clearly doesn't know shit about rap, can't freestyle to save her life, is horrible live, and overall just seems fake as fuck. She's trash, brehs. And if you disagree you lost.
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I'm no hater. She's getting money, I'm not mad. But I find it asinine that someone who isn't talented at all can get some pop hooks and suddenly be catapulted to success because she's white. I get it, people tend to be most interested in media depictions that mirror themselves; so white chicks are naturally going to gravitate towards a white female rapper. But jeez. At least Eminem was so dope no one could legitimately shit on him. This chick literally cannot rap. Out of all the white female rappers out there that could have gotten a mainstream shot, this is what they went with?
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Can we stop bringing this up? She apologized for that iirc. I don't know what else you guys want her to do. Nobody's perfect, especially someone who doesn't know the intricacies of race/class in the U.S.

Meanwhile eminem STAYS saying homophobic and misogynistic shit on his recent album.
WAH WAH STOP PICKING ON MY ARTIST YOU MEANIE!!! DON'T YOU KNOW OTHER PEOPLE BEING FUCKING RACIST/SEXIST/HOMOPHOBIC CANCELS OUT MY ARTIST'S FAILINGS?? SHE JUST.... DOESN'T UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE (BASIC HUMAN DIGNITIES).
 
If Iggy actually wanted to have an argument on Em, it should have been why did the Academy ignore that he still makes flaming misogynistic and homophobic music even in 2015? Or how his CD was mediocre, yet still won?

Playing the "Marshall's white so he should be shit on too" card isn't going to work, Ms. Australia. He's earned his stripes in the hip-hop community a long time ago.
 
As others have said, Eminem is a good artist, Iggy is not. However I do feel a bit bad for her. For ever valid piece of criticism lobbied at her there's about three which have nothing to do with her music/appropriation and are just mean spirit attacks on her character.
 
With that stated, notice how Iggy and Nicki rap about the same things, one is demonized for it the other is loved for it. Iggy talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch mainstream media love it. Nicki talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch. Mainstream wants her to be a role model for the black community.

Except both catch shit all the time, rightfully so.

Well, Eminem did get a lot of flak for being a white rapper early in his career. And he's built his style on the foundation of the Beastie Boys rather than trying to 'sound black'. Versus Iggy ... well ...

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Funny thing is there is some great hip hop from Australia, very different to the US stuff, and not as commercially successful... I'll let you make your own conclusions ;)
 
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