In hip hop I find it similar to that episode of Scrubs where they determine it's difficult for a black man to be a doctor but even more difficult for a black woman to be a doctor. I think the reverse is true that it's hard for a white man to be a rapper and even harder for a white woman to be. This is all based on a level of acceptance by the population.
Or maybe just because Eminem is/was good and she's not.
I couldn't make it all the way through. I just couldn't.
People bringing up Iggy's racism and homophobia, how do you rationalize that when Eminem is just as or more racist than Iggy? It's not like Eminem's lyrics are a paradigm of progressive thinking.
As I said in the other thread.
Vast majority of Iggy fans aren't fans of the genre, they're the kind of people who go "I hate rap...Iggy is the only good artist" (sometimes they like to say things like being fans of the golden age, while they have another tab open looking up the most popular songs and lyrics of said songs of the 90s).
Vast majority of fans of the genre don't like Iggy because they think she's wack as fuck on all fronts.
Everyone likes comparing Iggy to Eminem and that's just dumb and not fair to Em. Outside of their skin color they're nothing alike. One is talented as fuck the other is not.
With that stated, notice how Iggy and Nicki rap about the same things, one is demonized for it the other is loved for it. Iggy talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch mainstream media love it. Nicki talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch. Mainstream wants her to be a role model for the black community.
FOH.
Pretty much. I commend her devotion to her brand and business sense; shes basically more street than Drake is. Definitely tougher.Rap glorifies the hustle.
Iggy hustles her way to fame and fortune.
GAF gets mad.
No, its because for whatever and however far Em has fallen, he is still recognized as one of the dopest lyricist to make it to mainstream hip hop. She absolutely has not earned putting herself besides him as if its the same thing.
"Talented" people get a pass. See: R. Kelly (peed on a 15 year old), Chris Brown (beat up Rihanna), Roman Polaski (drugged and raped a minor), John Lennon (woman beater) etc. The list goes on and on. Igor should work on being talented so people will forget she's a horrible person.
Rap is dead anyway.
hustle=getting charli xcx to do a hook for youRap glorifies the hustle.
Iggy hustles her way to fame and fortune.
GAF gets mad.
No, her music is legitimately amazing. I listen to trap gold and the new classic almost every day. Great production, interesting lyrics, etc. She's awesome and I feel like most people just hate on her because she's a (white) woman. She's put out the best rap since maybe kanye's or 50's early stuff? People need to get off the high horse and accept that's shes a great artist.
Let's not pretend like Iggy's hit songs aren't held afloat by catchy hooks done by far more talented (and likeable) artists.
Pretty much. I commend her devotion to her brand and business sense; shes basically more street than Drake is. Definitely tougher.
I'm not too sure about that.
Drake is on the same level of trash as Iggy tho.
Girl Gone.
Let's not pretend like Iggy's hit songs aren't held afloat by catchy hooks done by far more talented (and likeable) artists.
It's not her nails-on-a-chalkboard bordering on racist caricature fake accent. It's not her incredibly poor flow or arrogant persona. Oops, didn't she go running from Twitter cuz she couldn't handle the criticism despite all the bile she's spewed on Twitter herself?
Call me when Igor manages to do a song on her own that smashes. People are here for her hooks, nothing more
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Iggy actually has flow thoughDrake is on the same level of trash as Iggy tho.
Drake is on the same level of trash as Iggy tho.
Because Marshall is good, you Igloo...only when you have someone else more talented like Charli XCX or Ariana Grande to help carry you.
Wait, except Iggy gets all sorts of shit?
Iggy actually has flow though
Did Azealia apologize for this too?Can't find a screenshot, but she said:
and we all know she didn't mean it
I wonder if she doesn't mean any of that either ;___;
Rap glorifies the hustle.
Iggy hustles her way to fame and fortune.
GAF gets mad.
did you even read what i posted orDid Azealia apologize for this too?
I wonder if she doesn't mean any of that either ;___;
Everybody is bothered by Iggy, her success. They should embrace the idea that she's here to stay. Buy Trouble on iTunes tbh.
Um, what? I love rap.WOAH! you clearly don't listen to rap music, please stop.
Um, what? I love rap.
Yeah Dennis, thats it.Rap glorifies the hustle.
Iggy hustles her way to fame and fortune.
GAF gets mad.
She's partially right. Iggy is just the logical result of industry preferential treatment; same preference that allows for Em to have more grammies than Nas, Jay and Outkast combined. People don't say anything about Em because he's actually incredible (and they're scared), though.
No, her music is legitimately amazing. I listen to trap gold and the new classic almost every day. Great production, interesting lyrics, etc. She's awesome and I feel like most people just hate on her because she's a (white) woman. She's put out the best rap since maybe kanye's or 50's early stuff? People need to get off the high horse and accept that's shes a great artist.
My question is though, what do people have to be scared about when it comes to Eminem. Is it his demeanor?
WAH WAH STOP PICKING ON MY ARTIST YOU MEANIE!!! DON'T YOU KNOW OTHER PEOPLE BEING FUCKING RACIST/SEXIST/HOMOPHOBIC CANCELS OUT MY ARTIST'S FAILINGS?? SHE JUST.... DOESN'T UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE (BASIC HUMAN DIGNITIES).Can we stop bringing this up? She apologized for that iirc. I don't know what else you guys want her to do. Nobody's perfect, especially someone who doesn't know the intricacies of race/class in the U.S.
Meanwhile eminem STAYS saying homophobic and misogynistic shit on his recent album.
My question is though, what do people have to be scared about when it comes to Eminem. Is it his demeanor?
god damn i'm crying over here lol - I didn't expect that ending
With that stated, notice how Iggy and Nicki rap about the same things, one is demonized for it the other is loved for it. Iggy talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch mainstream media love it. Nicki talks about her ass and how she's the baddest bitch. Mainstream wants her to be a role model for the black community.
Well, Eminem did get a lot of flak for being a white rapper early in his career. And he's built his style on the foundation of the Beastie Boys rather than trying to 'sound black'. Versus Iggy ... well ...
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Eminem disses.
Except both catch shit all the time, rightfully so.