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IGN Posts Up More Project Cafe Hardware Power Rumors
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herzogzwei1989
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I'd kill for another Rogue Squadron game, something that really shows off the hardware like Rogue Leader did for GameCube.
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
But I will answer anyway. It will probably be a new IP. I don't think a 3D Mario or Zelda will sell systems like they used to. I think a lot of people grew out of those games. I still haven't finished Galaxy (Doesn't mean I won't, but man do I have little motivation to continue) and Zelda TP is the only Zelda game I've stopped playing out of boredom (I will give it another shot soon, I hear it gets better later).
Now, I would hope it was a new Rogue Leader or F-Zero or something else sci-fi that shows off new shaders well. Its easy to create metallic and plastic shaders and they'll actually look good with such games.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Log4Girlz said:
Would that sell systems though???
I am not being condescending because I really haven't kept track of what IPs sell how much(besides the obvious ones).
herzogzwei1989 said:
You just make me sad that the main Factor 5 guys are now doing Facebook games.
I held off on buying the Wii at launch, because I didn't want to have another "price drop 6 months in"-GameCube debacle. Cafe will probably be $300-$350. It probably won't go through Wii-type sellouts at that price, so waiting on buying it until later should be fine.
herzogzwei1989
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Hopefully Zelda Cafe is already in pre-production already. I don't think I'll be able to wait until 2016 or whatever. Is there anything Nintendo can do to speed the process along like parner with another company to help with the graphics?
A sad end, Factor 5 has met....
donny2112 said:You just make me sad that the main Factor 5 guys are now doing Facebook games.
A sad end, Factor 5 has met....
From The Dust
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't showcase a port as a headliner.
herzogzwei1989
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Kandinsky said:
Star Fox on Cafe at E3 would be friggin' sweeeeeeeeet.
Fourth Storm
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Truth101 said:
I can see them showing a tech demo or cinematic to get the audience hyped. Now that they have a system with graphics worth showing off, there's no reason not to. Even an early build of OoT was shown right at the N64's unveiling and it didn't come out until 2 years later.
I can see where Beast is coming from, though my problem is actually with Nintendo's other flagship series, Zelda.
Zelda is a fantastically polished game, but at this point, I find myself far more interested in ambitious yet unpolished games than ones that are highly polished yet feel familiar.
Darksiders was a highly unpolished game of very uneven quality, but I really loved it for all the things it tried, whereas with Twilight Princess I frequently got the feeling of playing a game I already had. I can barely get interested in Skyward Sword despite having long liked this series just because it seems so familiar yet again.
As a non-Nintendo example, Red Faction: Guerrilla is one of my favorite games this generation, but there are parts of that game that are straight up horrible. The sequel, Red Faction: Armageddon, looks vastly more polished, but it is now basically a corridor shooter, so I can't get myself hyped for it at all.
Nintendo showed some fantastic innovation with the Wii, but it was mostly related to their casual titles, which just don't really interest me. I hope they put more effort back into innovating in their core series this generation, even if we get less polished titles because of it. Perhaps the extra hardware power they have available will really enable this. Mario Galaxy did feel different enough to me though, so I'm willing to maintain an optimistic outlook.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with preferring more polished titles over innovation, but this is just the perspective I have toward gaming right now.
Zelda is a fantastically polished game, but at this point, I find myself far more interested in ambitious yet unpolished games than ones that are highly polished yet feel familiar.
Darksiders was a highly unpolished game of very uneven quality, but I really loved it for all the things it tried, whereas with Twilight Princess I frequently got the feeling of playing a game I already had. I can barely get interested in Skyward Sword despite having long liked this series just because it seems so familiar yet again.
As a non-Nintendo example, Red Faction: Guerrilla is one of my favorite games this generation, but there are parts of that game that are straight up horrible. The sequel, Red Faction: Armageddon, looks vastly more polished, but it is now basically a corridor shooter, so I can't get myself hyped for it at all.
Nintendo showed some fantastic innovation with the Wii, but it was mostly related to their casual titles, which just don't really interest me. I hope they put more effort back into innovating in their core series this generation, even if we get less polished titles because of it. Perhaps the extra hardware power they have available will really enable this. Mario Galaxy did feel different enough to me though, so I'm willing to maintain an optimistic outlook.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with preferring more polished titles over innovation, but this is just the perspective I have toward gaming right now.
herzogzwei1989
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Fourth Storm said:
True, I agree. I hope there's a Zelda tech-demo to show what Zelda could be like with HD resolutions and modern shader-based graphics.
Dammit I want to see a cool tech demo for Zelda. Link comes in riding on a giant eagle to get to a mountain top. As the eagle descends Link does a backflip off it and onto the ground where Ganondorf is seemingly unarmed. Link runs towards him with a long sword but Ganondorf through magic produces two gigantic battle axes. He's carrying one in each hand. Awesomeness ensues and E3 crowd goes wild. Oh and Ganondorf can breathe fire.
From The Dust
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a Pokemon Tech Demo would be boss
shadyspace
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beast786 said:
Weird. I was considering starting a thread about how, despite my still being a huge Nintendo fan who is very much hyped for Cafe, my interest in Mario platformers has waned considerably. I didn't bother to finish Galaxy and never even picked up SMG2.
Nirolak said:
A lot of people felt that way about TP, myself included. But really OoT was a great, fresh experience. MM was by some accounts even better and weirder/fresher in story for sure. WW was a very different Zelda experience for me because the world/races/graphics all seemed new and the world in particular was very ambitious. By my judgement TP was the only Zelda of the 3d bunch to feel redundant and stale.
We don't know enough about SS yet so I won't make a judgement on it yet. But there isn't a history of zelda being too similar to past entries unless you are actually tired of the games as a whole.
AceBandage
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Zelda just needs to go back to explaration roots and it'll be perfect again. And yeah, Darksiders was great.
Also they likely won't show a Zelda demo for Cafe as that would overshadow SS.
Also they likely won't show a Zelda demo for Cafe as that would overshadow SS.
Yeah Mario seems a logic candidate, but I'm thinking more about the control and how it will be demoed, I think Pikmin 3 fulfill some criteria cause it could potentially make extensive use of the touchscreen, item and Pikmin selection would pretty smooth and intuitive too.Nirolak said:
herzogzwei1989
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apana said:
Would be cool.
shadyspace
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Nirolak said:
Competely agree with the latter, will never understand the former. PH was the best parts of Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening wrapped up in one oceany package.
From The Dust
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Pokemon Cafe! BELIEVE!
Luigi is the wrong mascot to launch a new console. All anybody will say is "where's mario?" Maybe a new IP will lead the charge. But I would rather have a load of cute Pikmin be the big 1st party game for the cafe than Luigi, plus I think they might be able generate more consumer interest through advertising. I image an approach similar to the rabbids or Little Big Planet could work. Imagining Luigi in some print ads or commercials just doesn't seem compelling enough.antonz said:
Log4Girlz said:
I think a Mass Effect trilogy could sell on the cafe. I choose this game over Gears or CoD because dudebros are instinctively allergic to Nintendo while people who play Mass Effect are less dudebro more discerning, seasoned gamers who won't run away from a Nintendo console "becuz Nintendo is for kidz!"
shadyspace
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Kandinsky said:
I think for me, it's a matter of context. The older I've gotten, the more I've needed a narrative (not even a particularly strong one, but a convincing one) to motivate me into caring about my actions. I had the same problem with TP, I didn't connect with the world or NPCs I was tasked with going on this journey to save from destruction so I felt like I wasn't doing much more than pressing buttons. The "sheer enjoyment" of platforming just doesn't do it for me anymore.
I didn't think Phantom Hourglass was bad, but it did feel like I was playing the same game again.shadyspace said:
Playing it with Twilight Princess and Spirit Tracks combined is what lowered my overall excitement for the series.
That said, I'm definitely willing to remain open to what they show of Skyward Sword at E3.
Yeah, I got quite far into Galaxy but I never ended up finishing it.Kandinsky said:
I think difficulty was more my issue than boredom though, since I didn't feel especially challenged and got easily distracted by something else at the time. I should go finish it up sometime though.
Yeah, an entertaining narrative would have helped for me as well.shadyspace said:
herzogzwei1989
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Log4Girlz said:
I'd love to see all of these on Cafe. Lets add the Elder Scrolls series too.
herzogzwei1989
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Log4Girlz said:
Yup.
Log4Girlz said:
I don't know if it would sell the console to the masses, I mean there's little reason to buy any of those over the 360 or PS3 version.
It would help balance out the console's library though.
I think they need a high profile exclusive FPS or something with a lead time
herzogzwei1989
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GDGF said:
Yeah.
Now imagine Skyrim running on Cafe at 1080p 60fps instead of 720p 30fps:
