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[Labadal]

Had I not looked it up myself, I would have said bogus. The Wii U had a better first November in the US, compare to the Switch 2. (No I am not comparing them that way.)

Consoles are very expensive, no matter which of the three you are interested in. There might be higher per unit earnings, but is it worth it to lose the user base? I don't know about that. Software will bring in lots of cash with enough players.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Leaves room for something like a Switch 2 Pro maybe.

They saving that for PS6.

 

[NickFire]

but, they have literally 0 competition in hi end 4k home consoles. Whats going on Ameribro's?

My guess is the price increases. In older days the current console would be cheap by now and make it more attractive to more casual gaming families or extnd3d relatives looking for presents. Even with the sales on PS5 they aren't mid or late generation cheap at all.

 

[DenchDeckard]

My guess is the price increases. In older days the current console would be cheap by now and make it more attractive to more casual gaming families or extnd3d relatives looking for presents. Even with the sales on PS5 they aren't mid or late generation cheap at all.

This is what I was discussing yesterday.

We are probably reaching the limit of who is willing to pay this much for a console.

 

[dragonyeuw]

My guess is the price increases. In older days the current console would be cheap by now and make it more attractive to more casual gaming families or extnd3d relatives looking for presents. Even with the sales on PS5 they aren't mid or late generation cheap at all.

Yeah, in the old days the Series X 'should' be about $300 by this point. The reality is, all the various market conditions over the years have led to a scenario where Microsoft can't even bargain bin the console just to get some money from it. So it's just sitting on shelves and in warehouses as a product that's generally been rejected by the market( as far as comparing its sales to its competition or even past generation Xboxes), while being more expensive than its competition. TLDR; it's a low demand, more expensive- than- its- competition product. It's in the worst position a consumer product can possibly be in, and frankly at this point Microsoft would be better off just cutting the cord and moving onto next gen( I don't see much of a market for their next product either, at least as an item that will move units in good volume, but that's another conversation). I'm just waiting for Walmart, Bestbuy and Target to announce that they're no longer carrying Xboxes in-store or at all; its taking up valuable space for things that they actually can sell. The Xbox section is going to be digital game codes, controllers, and third party accessories ( which the last time I was in Best buy, was pretty much what I saw as the physical game section was a wasteland).

 

[Three]

Yeah, since 1995. 30 year low.

PlayStation was down 40% despite having black friday deals and being #1 for the month. PS5 sold less than PS3 did during the holidays years ago.

PS5 was down vs last year (when Pro launched) but its unit sales were good and saved with the discount. It did 730k. That's more than almost all of the PS3 holidays bar 2011 when they did a $199 PS3 for BF and sold 900k. Completely disingenuous to be comparing it to that.

For reference to PS3 novembers:

2008: 378k units
2009: 710k < drop to $299
2010: 530k units
2011: 900k units < this was the $199 BF
2012: 700k units

PS5 this november did 730k at $399/$449/$649.

It wasn't even the lowest PS5 November. That was 2021 when PS5 did ~460k due to supply. Xbox unit sales collapsed so now we're getting a lot of people pushing "the industry is screwed" as usual especially from xbox affiliates like Windows Central. It didn't help that Switch 2s first November didn't light up the charts either to avoid this angle of spin but really 730k wasn't less than PS3 bar that $199 BF.

 

[Esppiral]

Yeah, since 1995. 30 year low.

PlayStation was down 40% despite having black friday deals and being #1 for the month. PS5 sold less than PS3 did during the holidays years ago.

I like how your post has been ignored so I quote it.

 

[mckmas8808]

I like how your post has been ignored so I quote it.

It's weird to me that some of the post in this thread seem to be ignoring the average selling price being the main issue here. They talking about console gaming being dead.....like what?

 

[memoryman3]

So it's just sitting on shelves and in warehouses as a product that's generally been rejected by the market

So...how do we know this? Microsoft could have also just reduced supply/production drastically to increase profit margins. The Series X tends to sell out when it goes on stock.

 

[mayham2199]

This is what I was discussing yesterday.

We are probably reaching the limit of who is willing to pay this much for a console.

I tend to agree. People buying now are most likely tired of waiting or their PS4/Xbox one is so old it broke.

 

[dragonyeuw]

So...how do we know this? Microsoft could have also just reduced supply/production drastically to increase profit margins. The Series X tends to sell out when it goes on stock.

I suppose either scenario 'could' be possible, but what you're quoting doesn't need to be taken that literally and is probably the least relevant part of my post since as you said, I don't 'know' if my scenario is the case anymore that yours.

I suppose I'll pose the same question to you, how do you know the Series X sells out when it goes on stock? I mean, I guess if a particular store gets 5 units and those units all move then yeah uhhhhh.......I guess it 'sold out'?

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

Nintendo are WAY UP this year in the US. Holidays came early in June.

 

[Kokoloko85]

They are exiting the hardware business. Soon it will just Playstation vs Nintendo vs Steam.

Yes thats the logical way to look at it.
But according to people, Nah Steam doesnt have a console. Steam has a gaming handheld…And a console shaped living room PC hybrid device, with OS tailored for Gaming and the living room ...But its a PC, get it right ;p

Steam is competition when it's the "best platform and place to game". But if you mention PS ports, it's not competition anymore and only a PC……

 

[Unknown?]

I remember the golden days of 360 when they were killing it in November. This is sad. It's also sad for console gaming, because less competition we get, the worst outcome for gamers.

We have the same amount of competition though with Nex filling in it's place and soon Steam.