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[Trilobit]

The game looks good, but it's also a fighting game. Couldn't care less about anything fighting games related, so to me, it's as if they didn't announce anything.

When someone starts talking about fighting games, whether it's Street Fighter or Smash Bros, it feels like someone has slipped me a handful of antipsychotics. My brain starts to feel like mush as I get so bored.

 

[Liopleurodon]

Miyuki Sawashiro is Storm.

 

[kunonabi]

For my tastes these are the type of games I'd want coming to PlayStation.

Yep, this has easily been the most appealing showing I've seen from Sony since it was free of their usual BS aside from the Bond game and that baby steps shit. Sony actually came across as a video game company for once. I've never cared for Sony's first output so it being all third party stuff works for me.

 

[Astray]

Most of us don't know what we want moment to moment.

This is the answer right here.

 

[Bartski]

People will always keep bitching about Sony Japan studio while I keep making fun of them

 

[Hypereides]

All I'll say is this.

While its still way too early to judge Noshino's appointment, I can't argue against the recent string of news and moves we've been hearing coming from PS indicates a shift towards more Japanese production focus. And I'm absolutely all for that.

The fact the show even included and had Suda51's new game announced early on indicates some things are changing behind the scenes from the very western centric PS we used to see in the past decade. Now, I want to see Noshino approach studios like Bokeh and either re-absorb them or establish a strong longterm strategic business partnership with them. He should also give folks like Jeff Ross and John Garvin a call and persuade them to come back on the western team just to correct some previous mistakes, the western-lead PS made in the past, like bleeding their talent roster.

 

[Sintoid]

We want and Sony will do... this is so much hilarious

 

[Jakk]

Who is we? I wanted quality games from Sony's first party studios. I think there's been some great Japanese games over the last years, but I feel like some people automatically say every Japanese game is a masterpiece. A lot of those games seem weird and repetetive as hell to me.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

IDK about you guys but, a Marvel 4v4, Final Fantasy Tactics saved the show for me. B+
Ghost of Yotei is interesting, but I need to see gameplay to decide if this is day one for
wait for a deal type of game. For now, all I want is an M Rated violence and gore trailer
from Wolverine.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Remember when the ""death"" of Japan Studio in 2021 meant that SIE was distancing itself from Japanese productions and going all on big cinematic blockbusters? Remember how this was supposed to signal the death of the quirky, stylish side of SIE? No more genres outside of gritty, AAA third-party action adventure games developed in the West, remember?

Then, four years later, SIE decides to close its summer State of Play event with a super stylish tag team fighting game developed by Japanese developer Arc System Works (of Dragon Ball FighterZ and Guilty Gear fame), and produced by the PlayStation Studios XDEV unit of the Japanese SIE HQs.

Yet, this is somehow a bad thing reading tons of reactions everywhere. Why? Isn't this kind of stuff exactly what we wanted SIE to focus on? Why are we suddenly going mad over SIE not focusing on its big blockbusters just for a little bit?

It's a numbers game, just like Tango from MS studios.

 

[GymWolf]

Don't care much for their first party japan output so yeah i prefer western studios to fucking show something.

What are the last 10 games released by a sony japanese first party studio?

Stuff like stellar blade or wukong obviously doesn't count, i'm talking first party first party.

 

[thief183]

I think on this forum there are about 5% gamers, or at least ppl that sill plays, the rest of the ppl only want to talk about games, and whine about them.

 

[Hector Hall]

The problem is that this isn't Japan Studio, Sony is forced to rely more on 3rd party games because their first party under Ryan and then Hulst's mismanagement have become a smoking crater.

I guess you could argue it doesn't really matter, the game is the game in the end, but I think people do want awesome first party games paired with strong 3rd party Japanese support.

In reality, most of SCEJ games were always external collaborations with Clap Hanz, Game Republic, GenDesign, QGames, From, Koei Tecmo etc

 

[deeptech]

"We" want to feel like children again when we played PS1 and 2 for the first time. I want to play Vice City and feel like I did for first time, or RE1 and 2 etc... I think some of us overstayed in the whole video game thing and should have moved on to different things instead.

 

[Idleyes]

I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut.

 

[Topher]

I think on this forum there are about 5% gamers, or at least ppl that sill plays, the rest of the ppl only want to talk about games, and whine about them.

Differences of opinions on a gaming show and so those you disagree with must not play games?

 

[Horseganador]

Sony has been presenting some AAA or important game at each event for some time now, last May Astrobot (which has almost 200 goty), in September Ghost of Yotei, in December Intergalactic, in February Saros, and now in the last one a Marvel fighting game that looks great or third-party exclusives like Nioh 3, there are good and varied games but people always focus on the negative.

 

[PeteBull]

Remember when the ""death"" of Japan Studio in 2021 meant that SIE was distancing itself from Japanese productions and going all on big cinematic blockbusters? Remember how this was supposed to signal the death of the quirky, stylish side of SIE? No more genres outside of gritty, AAA third-party action adventure games developed in the West, remember?

Then, four years later, SIE decides to close its summer State of Play event with a super stylish tag team fighting game developed by Japanese developer Arc System Works (of Dragon Ball FighterZ and Guilty Gear fame), and produced by the PlayStation Studios XDEV unit of the Japanese SIE HQs.

Yet, this is somehow a bad thing reading tons of reactions everywhere. Why? Isn't this kind of stuff exactly what we wanted SIE to focus on? Why are we suddenly going mad over SIE not focusing on its big blockbusters just for a little bit?

If sony wants me to buy ps5/pr0 they gotta offer high quality exclusive games, i will buy/play most of the games showed in yesterday's state of play, but i will get it on pc where those games are cheaper and play better/look better.
Where TF is new santa monica game, proper non woke wolverine that was teased/revealed almost 4 fricken years ago in sept 2021, where is new big jrpg, something like legend of dragoon 2/ new legend of legia ?
Where is new Uncharted?
Anything impressive graphically? (And no, woke blasian baldie doesnt count).
Hell i will concede for gravity rush 3, new killzone, next infamous or at least infamous 1+2 remaster, we getting any of those?
Im not mentioning bloodborne 2/remaster coz pretty sure they are keeping that ace to force us, hardcore gamers to buy ps6 at launch, and i cant say they are wrong there...

 

[thief183]

Differences of opinions on a gaming show and so those you disagree with must not play games?

That was not what I meant, I meant that in this forum not many ppl still play games and most of the one writing here are older person that come here to whine about something, so you will only see whine and never see any positivity, it doesn't matter the argument, the only one that will write something are the ones that hate it.

 

[Topher]

That was not what I meant, I meant that in this forum not many ppl still play games and most of the one writing here are older person that come here to whine about something, so you will only see whine and never see any positivity.

I see plenty of people here who didn't care for the show (who you call whiners) who are talking about games they are playing on a regular basis. Not liking the show just means they didn't like the show. Nothing more. Trying to make broader judgements of people based on that doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Thabass]

You're getting both. The likes of Ghost of Yotei and The Last of Us aren't going away, but projects like Astro Bot or Marvel Tōkon getting a spotlight like this is just a net positive for PlayStation Studios' lineup.

I, uh, never said I didn't? I was very happy with what I got in the State of Play.

I think I will choose option 1 in the poll because you're sure acting like one.

 

[Punished Miku]

I see plenty of people here who didn't care for the show (who you call whiners) who are talking about games they are playing on a regular basis. Not liking the show just means they didn't like the show. Nothing more. Trying to make broader judgements of people based on that doesn't make any sense to me.

Makes perfect sense. You attack the person instead of the subject matter and then get to dismiss anything they say without actually discussing anything.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Handhelds and PC, yep. BennyBlanco get in here brah

Yup I thought this was a very good showing. Will be hard to top.

 

[acidagfc]

A lot of ppl hate games in general and are only on gaming forums/twitter to spread their misery.

 

[Fbh]

I mean, yeah I want Sony to do more Japanese games.
I have zero interest in Arc System Works fighting games though, and mixing them with Marvel doesn't change that.
I'm not upset Sony is making this game, not everything they do needs to appeal to me. But I also won't go out of my way to celebrate a game that I have no desire to buy and play just because "it's from Japan".

Will you also euphorically celebrate if Sony announces a japanese dating sim visual novel?
"You said you wanted games from Japan so you HAVE to like this too!!!"

 

[Zacfoldor]

It was a good event yesterday with some interesting news. I had a great time. I want more of that.

 

[mckmas8808]

Remember when the ""death"" of Japan Studio in 2021 meant that SIE was distancing itself from Japanese productions and going all on big cinematic blockbusters? Remember how this was supposed to signal the death of the quirky, stylish side of SIE? No more genres outside of gritty, AAA third-party action adventure games developed in the West, remember?

Then, four years later, SIE decides to close its summer State of Play event with a super stylish tag team fighting game developed by Japanese developer Arc System Works (of Dragon Ball FighterZ and Guilty Gear fame), and produced by the PlayStation Studios XDEV unit of the Japanese SIE HQs.

Yet, this is somehow a bad thing reading tons of reactions everywhere. Why? Isn't this kind of stuff exactly what we wanted SIE to focus on? Why are we suddenly going mad over SIE not focusing on its big blockbusters just for a little bit?

I think you need to stop reading GAF and trusting everything fanboys say on Twitter. It's not reality.

 

[nial]

I, uh, never said I didn't? I was very happy with what I got in the State of Play.

I think I will choose option 1 in the poll because you're sure acting like one.

I never implied that you did...

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[nial]

I mean, yeah I want Sony to do more Japanese games.
I have zero interest in Arc System Works fighting games though, and mixing them with Marvel doesn't change that.
I'm not upset Sony is making this game, not everything they do needs to appeal to me. But I also won't go out of my way to celebrate a game that I have no desire to buy and play just because "it's from Japan".

Will you also euphorically celebrate if Sony announces a japanese dating sim visual novel?
"You said you wanted games from Japan so you HAVE to like this too!!!"

You're missing the point, it's not about having to like every single game like this, it's about recognizing the intentions behind them after years of bitching over Sony completely abandoning them.
I would personally celebrate that, been asking for Sony to return to the VN genre for quite a while.

 

[RoadHazard]

Well, yes, but not a fighting game. Very few people give a shit about those.

 

[justiceiro]

Op is being obtuse. People want their weird niche Japanese games? Yes, but they want them in a weird niche, not as the biggest reveal of the year.

People aren't mad at the game, they are mad at being the most significant announcement.

News flash: normal people don't spend $500+ on consoles to buy only small production games.

 

[Fbh]

You're missing the point, it's not about having to like every single game like this, it's about recognizing the intentions behind them after years of bitching over Sony completely abandoning them.
I would personally celebrate that, been asking for Sony to return to the VN genre for quite a while.

I don't really see them investing in a Marvel Fighting game (which will likely get treated as a multiplayer focused GAAS) as signaling anything particularly positive. Would they even have any interest in publishing an Arc System Works game if they couldn't attach a big western IP to it?

If anything it's games like Astrobot that show their willingness to invest in fun quirky Japanese games, and that was well liked and celebrated around here.

Also lets not forget that on top of making Astrobot internally they also published Rise of Ronin, are about to publish Death Stranding 2 as one of their biggest exclusives of the year, got exclusivity deals for stuff like FFXVI and Rebirth and, tangentially, have also been investing in China and Korea publishing stuff like Stellar Blade and Lost Soul Aside. So it's not like this game represents Sony "coming back" to japan after years of only focusing on western games.

 

[nial]

I don't really see them investing in a Marvel Fighting game (which will likely get treated as a multiplayer focused GAAS) as signaling anything particularly positive. Would they even have any interest in publishing an Arc System Works game if they couldn't attach a big western IP to it?

It's an interesting talking point, but it also goes on to show that SIE is definitely keeping up with these devs more than what people believed, especially with everything starting as SIE producers decided to approach ArcSys in the first instance. This was already in ArcSys' best interests going by their desire of working on global IPs.

If anything it's games like Astrobot that show their willingness to invest in fun quirky Japanese games, and that was well liked and celebrated around here.

Both complement each other in further supporting the idea, don't see the problem.

Also lets not forget that on top of making Astrobot internally they also published Rise of Ronin, are about to publish Death Stranding 2 as one of their biggest exclusives of the year, got exclusivity deals for stuff like FFXVI and Rebirth and, tangentially, have also been investing in China and Korea publishing stuff like Stellar Blade and Lost Soul Aside. So it's not like this game represents Sony "coming back" to japan after years of only focusing on western games.

Yep, fully aware of that. But we need to see it in the context of this, a non-Kojipro game, being given full spotlight at the end of a summer SoP. Everything about the reveal, the 7min devs interview afterwards, it all comes across as a *truly* important project.
Who was betting on a Japanese fighting game being the major closer (and game in general) of the event?