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[Bboy AJ]

Geek buying just charged me, despite me saying I want to cancel and providing no ship date. This is annoying. I may dispute.

How's the ergonomics of the device? It looks unwieldy. I just want to play indie Steam games on it. Like Owlboy.

 

[Fantastical]

I can only understand this as a streaming / maybe emulator device. The performance of 3D games seems all around awful.

 

[Maximo]

I can only understand this as a streaming / maybe emulator device. The performance of 3D games seems all around awful.

I mean it Is using a Z8750.

 

[broncobuster]

I can only understand this as a streaming / maybe emulator device. The performance of 3D games seems all around awful.

Most are testing modern 3D games on it. Few tests of games from before 2007 run smoothly at screen res. Two such games I have lined up are Halo CE and X-Men Legends 2. And it's handled modern indie games quite well. Your late 2000s games are hit or miss depending,

 

[Phawx]

I can only understand this as a streaming / maybe emulator device. The performance of 3D games seems all around awful.

z8750 (or z8700) is way too much power for a streaming device. A GPD XD can satisfy your streaming options and is way cheaper. It can also play some emulators.

Geek buying just charged me, despite me saying I want to cancel and providing no ship date. This is annoying. I may dispute.

How's the ergonomics of the device? It looks unwieldy. I just want to play indie Steam games on it. Like Owlboy.

Sorry for the delay, I'll be showing OwlBoy tomorrow. I just finished uploading F-Zero GX. CPU cores stay pegged at 2.56Ghz

F-Zero video up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR58DLKpmnc

I'm going to be doing a bunch of Gamecube games tomorrow. So if you'd like to see something, let me know.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Phawx, how about the ergonomics of it?

 

[purseowner]

z8750 (or z8700) is way too much power for a streaming device. A GPD XD can satisfy your streaming options and is way cheaper. It can also play some emulators.




Sorry for the delay, I'll be showing OwlBoy tomorrow. I just finished uploading F-Zero GX. CPU cores stay pegged at 2.56Ghz

F-Zero video up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR58DLKpmnc

I'm going to be doing a bunch of Gamecube games tomorrow. So if you'd like to see something, let me know.

Pikmin would be great if you could.

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

Hey Phawx I know you're drowning in requests, but could you try Dark Souls with a low internal resolution using Dsfix. I have a suspicion that we can make it run at 30 with some tweaks.

If you're only doing GCN then I suggest Resident Evil Remake. Thanks for your hard work. Cheers.

 

[JGCD]

I saw paper Mario on your dolphin list so how does that run? Really curious if it's playable with the 8700

 

[DrROBschiz]

Whew finally have some positive news

Now I just wait

 

[JayWood2010]

If you want to play Steam games on the go then you might as well wait for Smach Z imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgppMAo1-V8

 

[GhostTrick]

If you want to play Steam games on the go then you might as well wait for Smach Z imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgppMAo1-V8

You may wait really long. This device may not be happening. If you read the description, their prototype is streaming from their dev board. I don't see them fitting a fanless, 12 to 15W TDP SoC in that case.

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

If you want to play Steam games on the go then you might as well wait for Smach Z imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgppMAo1-V8

This is smoke and mirrors. GPD Win is the best we're going to get for a while and luckily it seems pretty solid.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Did everyone else on GB get charged before shipment?

 

[MUnited83]

If you want to play Steam games on the go then you might as well wait for Smach Z imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgppMAo1-V8

Unlikely that this will ever be a thing without serious throttling. They can't even fit the thing inside its case.

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

Did everyone else on GB get charged before shipment?

I've been charged and my order says:

Payment Confirmed (processing)

 

[Bboy AJ]

I've been charged and my order says:

Payment Confirmed (processing)

This isn't cool. I don't want to be charged before there's even a ship date. That's absurd.

 

[MicroByter]

So these 3 vids popped up and I have a hard time believing that these are native and running on the GPD Win:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5OO8Wu81M8&list=UUO8UJhcBwutNcNzmlfXyrag

My Intel i5 4400 can't really run these that well, so I wonder if they are streaming or if the GPD Win is really good enough to play at this quality. From what I've seen, these should be stuttering more, espeically NFS.

The streaming aspect has nearly sold me, just need to know more about ergonmics and how well the sticks feel.


Xbox One Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGbbyL2fmA

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

This isn't cool. I don't want to be charged before there's even a ship date. That's absurd.

It's very odd, although I will say that others have received theirs from geekbuying and their order still says Payment Confirmed (processing).

So these 3 vids popped up and I have a hard time believing that these are native and running on the GPD Win:

Those frame rates are pretty awful. Clearly sub 30. I think people will be surprised by the power here though.

 

[brainpann]

Did everyone else on GB get charged before shipment?

I was charged immediately on both of my orders.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Im more interesting in running games within the GPD Win's spec wheelhouse

Indies and various legacy emulators

PSP, PS1, MAYBE PS2 and Gamecube

 

[MicroByter]

Those frame rates are pretty awful. Clearly sub 30. I think people will be surprised by the power here though.

I guess I'm so used to playing on PC's with insufficient power (I had an ASUS T100 for the longest time) that sub 30 and low res doesn't bother me as much. Maybe this handheld IS for me after all!

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

I was charged immediately on both of my orders.

Brainpann what shipping option did you use? I switched from their air mail to US priority mail. It's making me nervous.

 

[Diablohead]

The streaming aspect has nearly sold me, just need to know more about ergonmics and how well the sticks feel.


Xbox One Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGbbyL2fmA

i've streamed the xbox one to my windows 10 linx tablet before and apart from a few video playback issues because of some driver problems I had, it was solid and rather lag free over wifi. It was instant enough that I was able to test some campaign and warzone without much of an issue in combat.

 

[Phawx]

Thanks for this!

Is there any particular reason to do a clean install? In my brief time with it, Windows didnt seem particularly bloated.

I just like having a clean install to the latest Windows release XD. After updating 1607 to latest Windows update and DISM purge, hibernation file off and increased the page file to 2048MB flat, base x64 Windows install was 10~GB. So 46GB were free.

Phawx, how about the ergonomics of it?

I find the GPDwin pretty comfy. The L3 and R3 are terribly placed. But for mainline twin-stick analog, it's really good. The shoulder buttons do feel really loose, but they have good action. I haven't yet put the D-Pad through the paces yet.

But standard grip with thumbs on the analog sticks is optimal. I've played in 40 minute bursts and my hands haven't cramped up like OG 3DS used to bring about.


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Straight Dolphin 5 seems to be better than Ishiiruka's Build of Dolphin.

 

[HowardRoark]

Straight Dolphin 5 seems to be better than Ishiiruka's Build of Dolphin.

Better FPS in F-Zero after switching?

 

[broncobuster]

I'm going to be doing a bunch of Gamecube games tomorrow. So if you'd like to see something, let me know.

Zelda Four Swords Adventures ran well on my old laptop. I'd be interested in seeing how that runs. Thanks.

 

[Phawx]

Better FPS in F-Zero after switching?

Considerably. One key area if you notice in my video of Ishiiruka's build. At the 2:25 mark, sound is considerably *less* distorted on straight Dolphin.

I'll do tests on both before recording and go with the best one.

 

[brainpann]

Brainpann what shipping option did you use? I switched from their air mail to US priority mail. It's making me nervous.

I used airmail both times.

 

[Phawx]

I used airmail both times.

Do you have your other one already?

 

[Alo81]

Hows the screen/what kind of screen is it?

I'd love to see Stardew Valley on this

 

[brainpann]

Do you have your other one already?

I wish. XD

 

[Phawx]

Hows the screen/what kind of screen is it?

I'd love to see Stardew Valley on this

Guy on Reddit did a really good analysis with the tools he had available:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/57f7d9/gpd_wins_lcd_display_is_very_good/

 

[rtcn63]

I find the GPDwin pretty comfy. The L3 and R3 are terribly placed. But for mainline twin-stick analog, it's really good. The shoulder buttons do feel really loose, but they have good action. I haven't yet put the D-Pad through the paces yet.

This is what I was worried about. Not necessarily a big issue for indie games (which I'm guessing is what the GPD is more intended for), but FPS titles and the like I could it see it being a deal breaker.

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

I used airmail both times.

D:

You think I'll be alright?

 

[brainpann]

D:

You think I'll be alright?

Yeah, you should be fine.

 

[broncobuster]

This is what I was worried about. Not necessarily a big issue for indie games (which I'm guessing is what the GPD is more intended for), but FPS titles and the like I could it see it being a deal breaker.

I plan on mapping those keys to delete or the number bar. But it's strange they couldn't use the large blank area between the thumb sticks. GPD XD smartly has L3/R3 next to the analogs.

 

[Hastati]

Going by a thread on Reddit it sounds like Dark Souls actually works. Dunno if DS3 will ever run, but that still makes me happy.

 

[Dr. Benton Quest]

Going by a thread on Reddit it sounds like Dark Souls actually works. Dunno if DS3 will ever run, but that still makes me happy.

I bet we can get it to run really well with Dsfix. Excited to see what we can get running ala low spec gamer.

 

[JGCD]

Going by a thread on Reddit it sounds like Dark Souls actually works. Dunno if DS3 will ever run, but that still makes me happy.

Dark souls 2 would probably run even better XD

 

[Phawx]

Yea Low Spec Gamer makes looking for config stuff so much easier.

 

[Lonely1]

Did everyone else on GB get charged before shipment?

I did. I payed with Paypal, so I'm safe (right?).

 

[DrROBschiz]

Yea Low Spec Gamer makes looking for config stuff so much easier.

So just how far could we push this device anyways

Would a trimmed version of Windows 10 be preferrable? What about other performance boosters?

 

[Phawx]

So just how far could we push this device anyways

Would a trimmed version of Windows 10 be preferrable? What about other performance boosters?

I've trimmed my build of Windows 10 down but still have enough running to allow the Windows Store to run. I'm at 950MBs of RAM used on complete cold boot with Steam running.

I've done the regedit to allow High Performance mode in powercfg.cpl but it looks like it's ill-advised to enable. My device is throttling sooner causing overall performance to be down. I'll be modding my heatsink soon, hopefully that produces better results to where I can enable High Performance mode again.

I honestly think the best perf gains are gonna come from the BIOS. The ability to increase RAM frequency seems to be available but I'm scared to change it if it bricks my device and I don't currently know how to clear the cmos to force a default BIOS state.

 

[Mihos]

The keyboard on that thing seems like such unnecessary clutter. Like it was designed 10 years ago or something, in the pre-iPhone era. Windows 10 has a built-in virtual keyboard, why not just rely on that?

With that said I hope this turns out good. I want one but I'll wait for first impressions. This could end up being very shoddy quality. If it had backing from an existing established non-Chinese hardware company I would order one immediately.

Have you tried using a virtual keyboard inside of a Steam game?

untagged spoiler: It doesn't work at best, at worst it pops you out of your game and forces a resolution change and crashes the system to a point where neither the game or keyboard work.
In most cases, not even phone games allow the phone keyboard to pop up and cover your screen

 

[Randam]

You can't press the sticks?

Thought that very extra l3 and r3 buttons and you could use both.

 

[Phawx]

You can't press the sticks?

Thought that very extra l3 and r3 buttons and you could use both.

The analog sticks can not be used to activate the L3 and R3 buttons.

 

[CO_Andy]

Could you try installing tiny7 on the GPD Win, Phawx?

 

[Phawx]

Could you try installing tiny7 on the GPD Win, Phawx?

I'd love to eventually, but I have a lot of requests on my plate and that would take a lot of time to get drivers and other things running.

 

[HowardRoark]

Pretty cool that Fallout: NV seems playable from this Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obk0Muvj-Eo. It's been in my backlog for a long time and I've been wanting to play it. Fallout on the go would be amazing!