Ri is in my top three targets, but why would batsnacks be killed before Kawl?
I mean, batsnacks last lead was going after godfather Kawl. Surely a reason to keep him alive if Kawl is Town.
We don't know what Kawl is apart from town aligned.
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Ri is in my top three targets, but why would batsnacks be killed before Kawl?
I mean, batsnacks last lead was going after godfather Kawl. Surely a reason to keep him alive if Kawl is Town.
We don't know what Kawl is apart from town aligned.
Kawl has more uncertainty over him so maybe they thought we might lynch him for that. The possibility that they killed him to protect godfather Kawl is there but I'm not sure about it. I don't think it's a problem that needs to be resolved today.
While I still scumread isaac, he did not place a vote on CCS when it was an easy choice. That for now is making me a little weary on him.
Bronx and Ri are both on the CCS wagon, as well as the Dusk wagon in D1.
These are my two most suspicious.
SkyOdin would be third, because while he wasn't on Dusk, he did pull day end shenanigans. This coupled with the CCS vote makes me lean scum.
I don't know about LP. Certainly not beneficial town actions, turboing when 2 hours were left. He's a potential target but outside of those three.
Bronx and Ri are both on the CCS wagon, as well as the Dusk wagon in D1.
These are my two most suspicious.
SkyOdin would be third, because while he wasn't on Dusk, he did pull day end shenanigans. This coupled with the CCS vote makes me lean scum.
I don't know about LP. Certainly not beneficial town actions, turboing when 2 hours were left. He's a potential target but outside of those three.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
We were spinning our wheels at that point. It made little difference whether it was 20 hours left or 2.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Kawl was probably spared because between him and bats, he may be the more valuable of the two and would get more attention from any remaining PR's.
Son of a...
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Let's just hope we don't have somebody be replaced. Makes it harder to get a good read on someone.
melonrabbit
Member
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I should have clarified/proof-read my statement. I meant, I hope nobody else is replaced.
Wait, what? Yesterday you were full of "Neutrals add noise lover. I am not okay with letting one live," and "gafia towns have been screwed by neutral survivors quite a few times." Yet now you're trying to say you only voted CCS because you thought he was a mafia redirector? And that his neutrality makes anyone who voted for him scummy?
Killing CCS was the right play. *Splinter's "let's keep him around and hope he doesn't betray us" plan was never going to work. And I find it hard to believe you honestly believed CCS was scum with some elaborate and unnecessary "I'm a neutral you can trust!" gambit.
Probably just trying to dodge a tracker or similar. Maybe they thought a JOAT would use his Doctor charge tonight on Kawl. Doesn't seem that noteworthy that they'd go for the second most obvious target rather than the first.
And nobody was going to buy bat's crazy Kawlfather theory. Which makes the fact that you're teasing it a bit here ("if Kawl is town"?) seem odd.
People who voted Dusk are scummy now? What about the people who voted AB? You remember he was town, too?
I think Blarg is one of the most town players here but maybe that's just me.
OceanicAir
Member
In what way? What has he done in this game that would make you think that?
It's just the way that I've read them this game. I don't really have specific examples to point to.
isaacnukem
Member
Hello, I won't be around for a good portion of tomorrow. I'll try to join today whenever I'm free. Anyway, don't panic, everyone, we can still win this.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
And by we you mean, town or scum?
isaacnukem
Member
Scum, of course.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
isaacnukem
Member
Wow, you got me there. I don't know how I'll defend myself, so I'll just let you keep your vote on me.
Scumbuddies cabot, zippedpinhead, Blargonaut, and SkyOdin, please forgive me for slipping.
Scumbuddies cabot, zippedpinhead, Blargonaut, and SkyOdin, please forgive me for slipping.
Am I just being forgetful or is the reason for batsnacks' death rather obvious. He had an item that was going to be used during the night and scum very likely was afraid of whatever would happen with its use, thus they kill them and solve two problems at once. What say y'all?
isaacnukem
Member
Yeah, I'm calling a bluff on the item.
You don't think they actually had an item? What possible purpose does it serve a Day 0 confirmed townie to lie to us, especially if it just baits the scum kill.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Maybe he was supposed to die and willl get revived at a later round?
isaacnukem
Member
I mean no significant discussion came out of that. Also, even without that, he's still dead meat.
It is possible that batsnacks was trying to draw attention to himself for some reason with the item talk, but I don't know for what purpose.
Perhaps batsnacks was trying to get killed? He may have thought that it was better for an effectively vanilla player to be NKed, rather than a potential PR? Not a likely answer, but it is the best I can come up with.
Perhaps batsnacks was trying to get killed? He may have thought that it was better for an effectively vanilla player to be NKed, rather than a potential PR? Not a likely answer, but it is the best I can come up with.
You have so far consistently avoided making any arguments to back up your town/scum reads, Kalor. Last day phase, you voted for me, claiming that I was the only person who stood out to you. However, you were pretty blatently bandwagoning off of Kawl and Blarg's votes for me.
It feels like you are just going with the flow instead of forming your own opinions.
What is your read on cabot right now? Or how about OceanicAir?
Blargonaut
Banned
What nonsense
VOTE: cabot
Ri' you're next
VOTE: cabot
Ri' you're next
Blargonaut
Banned
bye Kawl
Blargonaut
Banned
I think we can all admit how correct I was and how wrong cabot and his followers are
Zippedpinhead
Member
For what it's worth, I think you are town and obviously you were correct yesterday. I still think Cabot is town though.
My money is on Skyodin, don't trust him...
I can't make sense of waffle taco and isaacnukem's back and forth. My gut says waffletaco is scum though...
Blargonaut
Banned
nah what has cabot done except change his claim and tunnel
I know who I'm against
Do you
Blargonaut
Banned
nah I doubt it, bets would've had a [REDACTED] bit in his Role text if there was another life up his sleeve
Blargonaut
Banned
At least, in an ordinary game
I for one have no regrets about lynching CCS. I believed his claims as to what he was, but I simply had no faith that he would act in town's interest. None of his behavior in the first two days gave me any reason to trust him. I think we did the right thing.
Which is why I am so perplexed by cabot's sudden change in tune. Why distance himself from the lynch now? Why pretend that there was some sudden revelation when CCS flipped? Him being a neutral was always a likely probability. I have no idea what cabot is thinking with this shift.
Which is why I am so perplexed by cabot's sudden change in tune. Why distance himself from the lynch now? Why pretend that there was some sudden revelation when CCS flipped? Him being a neutral was always a likely probability. I have no idea what cabot is thinking with this shift.
Blargonaut
Banned
Also don't think for a sec that I forgot you, Lone
I haven't forgotten
I haven't forgotten
Blargonaut
Banned
nope.
Majority made a mistake, plain & simple. Even if you can't trust a Neutral's own motive(s), you can trust they'll catch a Mafia's shot as cannon fodder for Town just as well as any body
If you want Mafia sitting at the table long enough for us to get there, you don't take a course out from under them, they'll just finish eating faster
If we had kept him alive, Mafia'd likely ignore CCS for then and gunned for Kawl or bets anyway, yes; but you'd have them as equally worried as us about what CCS would do, especially in the early game when it behooves a Neutral Survivor to help the as-yet strongest Town. The point is to provide a choicier menu to slow scum down; even better with CCS as he was an active interferer. A menu which we didn't provide, and now our confirmed pool is scum's fast food
We should've KO'd cabot Yesterday, and let CCS help us scum-hunt via forcing people against others until he found a killer
But who do we have to help us scum-hunt instead? cabot, whose Power is to turn himself invisible
wow, service to Town
turn himself invisible
Blargonaut
Banned
Welcome Swamped
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
You should all listen to Kalor more, he has good instincts