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benny_a said:
People's interpretation of what bullshot means varies, with some just thinking downsampling and others thinking it's a target render with no underlying game-engine below it.
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Wasn't that the original intention of the term? The one Penny Arcade used to describe EA's current-gen Madden screen?

These really aren't even bad "bullshots". They're just your standard downsampled screens. It'd be understandable if people were calling out the bullshit that UBI often tries to pass off as a screenshot.
 
Always-honest said:
i wasn't talking about the OP screens :P. i think the top one from the ones i reacted to is from a cutscene. The images posted by op are press-shots (aka touched up/ bullshots).
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Yeah, I agree with that. The climbing one seems to be a cutscene while the other 3 look like gameplay.
 
Ah even better than saying bullshots would be to be as specific as possible, in this case: new downsampled shots. Bullshit has inherent negative connotation which will spark flaming more.
 
zoukka said:
Ah even better than saying bullshots would be to be as specific as possible, in this case: new downsampled shots. Bullshit has inherent negative connotation which will spark flaming more.
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Or just leave it as it is since it doesn't seem like most people have any issues discussing the screens as is. That's made clear in most screenshot threads when very few if any even mention bullshot or downsample shots. They just discuss the screens and what's going on in them.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Or just leave it as it is since it doesn't seem like most people have any issues discussing the screens as is. That's made clear in most screenshot threads when very few if any even mention bullshot or downsample shots. They just discuss the screens and what's going on in them.
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Which distorts the basis of discussion whenever a real screenshot is posted.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Or just leave it as it is since it doesn't seem like most people have any issues discussing the screens as is. That's made clear in most screenshot threads when very few if any even mention bullshot or downsample shots. They just discuss the screens and what's going on in them.
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No no, someone is bound to say how amazing the image quality looks and that already goes into the danger zone and invites people to correct them (because why wouldn't people correct others on an enthusiast discussing forum).
 
zoukka said:
Ah even better than saying bullshots would be to be as specific as possible, in this case: new downsampled shots. Bullshit has inherent negative connotation which will spark flaming more.
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Yeah, there should be a differentiation between stuff that is just downsampled like this, and genuine bull shots, like the stuff that Ubisoft releases (see Watch Dogs), where the screen set up is so dynamic and perfectly composed compared to anything you will see in gameplay. Crytek does this as well.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Or just leave it as it is since it doesn't seem like most people have any issues discussing the screens as is. That's made clear in most screenshot threads when very few if any even mention bullshot or downsample shots. They just discuss the screens and what's going on in them.
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That won't work. Then we have the same situation as now.

Look at the GTA5 gameplay trailer thread where there was at least 10 pages of talk about how the game wasn't captured on PS3 which dominated the conversation by a few, while I would assume the majority of posters were more interested in discussing what was shown gameplay-wise.

Just call downsampled screens downsampled in the thread title. It just means that people that are not good at spotting it can't create the threads. :-P
 
benny_a said:
Just call downsampled screens downsampled in the thread title. It just means that people that are not good at spotting it can't create the threads. :-P
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You'd still have people arguing over it. There's no real reason to change it from basic "screenshots/screens". Most clearly don't care one way or the other. Like I said, there are countless threads with downsampled screens/bullshots and they're never really discussed. It's just every now and then someone decides to make a big deal out of it.
 
Wait, people are saying Crysis 3 on PC still looks much better than this game?

No shit Sherlock.
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SolidSnakex said:
You'd still have people arguing over it. There's no real reason to change it from basic "screenshots/screens". Most clearly don't care one way or the other. Like I said, there are countless threads with downsampled screens/bullshots and they're never really discussed. It's just every now and then someone decides to make a big deal out of it.
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Like I said, it's an enthusiast forum, people can/will/should analyze the shots and call out bullshots. That's the only way to make at least a small stand to the barrage of fake footage the publishers push to the public.
 
KKRT00 said:
But jaggies are more pronounced in motion than on screenshots.
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they're constantly changing depending on what you are looking at. Diagonal lines are the worst ofcourse.
But i agree they are more distracting in motion. They cause flickering lines and that kind of immersion killing shit.
 
xValentine said:
Wait, people are saying Crysis 3 on PC still looks much better than this game?

No shit Sherlock.
KuGsj.gif
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I am more impressed with this game considering it is open world. I also find the lighting particularly striking in what has been shown. I would guess night time footage will look even ore visually impressive.
 
Carl said:
That's kind of the idea. He is over confident with his powers. He's been sidelined his whole life by his brother who is far more successful than him. Then Deslin gets these powers and suddenly, he feels he can do anything.
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This makes more sense than this
Arai said:
Then almost every male in the 20's fit that profile, to me it looks like someone you would encounter on the streets.
The clothing style, beanie and all looks believable and your average joe to me.
In a good way that is...
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to me.

Thanks for the responses. He still looks like a douchebag though but at least there seems to be a reason.
 
luca_29_bg said:
There's something wrong when a third party open world game have a greater detail respect a first party game. What's wrong ? O__O

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We are yet to see how rest of the game will look. This particular scene was phenomenal but when they did go out of this street it looked more believable.

I have no doubt developers can put so many detail in such levels. Thing is this is MMO with actual big world. So amount details they can put is scaled by size of the world they can create.

They have now benefit of actually showing gameplay and it is believable scenario but i am yet to see how rest of the world will look. It is not a problem to crank up details in staged demo.
 
Looks very nice, I really dig the lighting.

Most prolly bullshots though, I don't believe the game will have that level of image quality with so much anti-aliasing and such.

It's true though, that when compared to The Division it seems to lack a bit in detail, but maybe they are going for a cleaner style.
 
not sure it's gonna run at 60fps, but i hope so

first two games are ridiculous amounts of fun, and recently i put them above god of war and uncharted in terms of my personal enjoyment gained from playing, sucker punch is underrated.
 
travisbickle said:
WTF!!

Have Sony released any other videos of this quality?

It looks so nice.
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I don't think any publisher has ever released a prores encoded video, at least not that I've ever seen myself.
They definitely sent us that file by mistake since it was truncated. It took me hours to find a way to get the video stream out of it, but I really wanted to see how it would look :)
 
Blimblim said:
I don't think any publisher has ever released a prores encoded video, at least not that I've ever seen myself.
They definitely sent us that file by mistake since it was truncated. It took me hours to find a way to get the video stream out of it, but I really wanted to see how it would look :)
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You are a good man blim.
 
xValentine said:
Wait, people are saying Crysis 3 on PC still looks much better than this game?

No shit Sherlock.
KuGsj.gif
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Except it doesn't. There are way too many elements of it that are just sub par in comparison to what's being shown now, poly count, animation, shaders, what have you. It doesn't help that the game is far from a spring daisy in terms of game design either.
 
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