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Intel finally notches a GPU win, confirms Arc B580 is selling out after stellar reviews
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Intel’s Arc B580 graphics card is selling out in many places after stellar reviews
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LavitzSlambert
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And the first instinct people have is to scalp mid range cards for high range prices. Post-COVID online retail is a nightmare.
LordOfChaos
Member
Still seeing so many people complaining in the other thread about the 5060 being 128 bit 8GB
You want that to change?
Buy the frickin B580! For a third party to have an impact on the duopoly they have to dent sales enough for them to notice, which means actually buying the thing that's giving you more for less. The drivers are much much better and only going to get better with its mix of hardware fixes as well, and not having perfect game drivers for every game exactly at launch isn't the end of the world.
You want that to change?
Buy the frickin B580! For a third party to have an impact on the duopoly they have to dent sales enough for them to notice, which means actually buying the thing that's giving you more for less. The drivers are much much better and only going to get better with its mix of hardware fixes as well, and not having perfect game drivers for every game exactly at launch isn't the end of the world.
Crayon
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For dgpu, that duopoly is more like a monopoly.
Buy the Intel to scare amd and we'll have two affordable brands to choose from.
hinch7
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As I said in the review thread, a big win for gamers. Lower end has been neglected for years from AMD and Nvidia. Where we were previously given scraps with the RX 6600 - 7600, RTX 4060 etc. Which were dumb configurations capped for 1080P. So when a decently performing and specced GPU comes along at $250. That has enough VRAM configuration for its tier; its going to do well. The glowing reviews it gotten from all the big tech reviewers. Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, LTT etc of course helped.
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MrTroubleMaker
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Just watch the 50xx cards and the "tariff wars" that will be happening then... its really going to be bad.
Reizo Ryuu
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scalpers not understanding that battlemage is attractive because of the price, it loses its entire value at the scalped prices lol.
Madserb2023
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We need to push for all cards to be minimum 16 gigs let alone 12 gigs. Due to the PS5 and Xbox Series X having 16 gigs, games are designed around that. That should be the minimum. It's ridiculous that the 5060 will probably be 8 gigs which is what consoles had in 2013.
Good luck with thatFucking scalpers. Joke will be on them once Intel floods the market with these. This isnt going to be a shitshow like the PS5 pro disc drive.
12 is enough, due to os and cpu side assets on console. At least at same resolution
I think 12 gigs is enough in terms of capacity because you still have system RAM too. 16GB would cover everything though.
Madserb2023
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12 is enough for now. Don't want to be using system ram though. However it won't be for long. What if the PS6 is 24 gigs or more. You will have people with 12 gigs in 2027 or 2028 with Devs designing games with 24 or more as a base. The situation will just get worse. There will be still people with 8 when the PS6 launches.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
12gb is already not enough in some games for the 4070
I suppose it depends how future proof you want to make it but often that doesn't work that well anyway because other things like better bandwidth GDDR7 or new architectures/tech often make futureproofing too much less sound than just buying newer cheaper stuff more often. I was talking about comparisons to a PS5 and XSX though in terms of RAM capacity required to meet the needs of todays games.
Which ones? Flight Sim?
usually if a game runs on PS5/XSX it will run fine on 12gb of VRAM but I'm sure there are some outliers and 16gb would give you full coverage.
Madserb2023
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The problem is that due to the price of GPUs people aren't upgrading their GPUs every year or two. You just got to see how many people are still using a 2080 for that. People are buying a GPU expecting it to last 4 to 5 years at least. There will 100% be people rocking 8 gigs when the PS6 launches. The issue is that the consoles aren't really the high end or even the mid range. It's actually the base. So 24 gigs or more will be the base. That's what developers will target. I can see even 12 gigs GPUs not even booting up some games by 2028/2029.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
For 4k it's not enough already now, for 1440p some games when maxed out
Just with the the last of us you are already limited in vram
Bonfires Down
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8 GB is enough for lower end cards if settings are tweaked properly. But do I need yet another bottleneck to worry about? Not really. I would get this if I was in the market at this price range.
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Wildebeest
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Nvidia abandoned the low end market, and AMD acts like they are in a cartel with nvidia and just don't mind losing market share. Makes sense.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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The brain rot is real.
Edit: Also lol at the people demanding more VRAM on these cards to "fix" the artificial VRAM starvation issue. You know what happens when low end cards get 16 gigs? Right, Nvidia will call up all their partners like MS, Sony, EA etc. and tell them to configure their future games so that they effectively require 32GB for the "full experience". The VRAM isn't insufficient for some random, mysterious economic mumbo jambo. This is planned, so that you're properly motivated to spent more on your GPU purchase.
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Oh, yeah if you want to push a game at native 4k beyond its PS5/XSX settings I can understand the higher than 12gb requirement. With TLOU remake you're limited more by IO/memory bandwidth and 12gb should be more than enough for fidelity mode (4k) PS5 settings at higher fps than base PS5. If you're talking about maxing all games then yeah I agree 12GB isn't enough. I thought we meant just to match PS5/XSX.
digital_ghost
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I searched for it on Amazon and i couldn't even find it .
I take that back . There was one no name brand for $399. Well above the $249 msrp.
I take that back . There was one no name brand for $399. Well above the $249 msrp.
Bojji
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12GB should be enough for this gen on console settings. But anything more and it will be too less.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
I forgot we were talking about the intel, I was talking about the 5070 with 12gb again
12gb is more than enough for this card
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Good on Intel
That card would have gained considerable market share compared with Nvidia and AMD bottom stack had it released 6 months or so ago.
They are only on 2nd gen. Unless Intel belly flops and the GPU department closes or the whole company.. they’ll be dangerous soon enough, they have to time it better though.
That card would have gained considerable market share compared with Nvidia and AMD bottom stack had it released 6 months or so ago.
They are only on 2nd gen. Unless Intel belly flops and the GPU department closes or the whole company.. they’ll be dangerous soon enough, they have to time it better though.
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