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Interview: James Cameron Avatar 2 2018 release Unlikely

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PhantomX1313

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Interview taken during visit of Disney 'Pandora World' theme park.
You have a major theme park ready to launch and, of course, the sequels to Avatar. The last we heard was that there was to be a 2018 release. What can you tell us about the development so far?

Well, 2018 is not happening. We haven’t announced a firm release date. What people have to understand is that this is a cadence of releases. So we’re not making Avatar 2. We’re making Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5. It’s an epic undertaking. It’s not unlike building the Three Gorges dam. (Laughs) So I know where I’m going to be for the next eight years of my life. It’s not an unreasonable time frame if you think about it. It took us four-and-a-half years to make one movie and now we’re making four. We’re full tilt boogie right now. This is my day job and pretty soon we’ll be 24-7. We’re pretty well designed on all our creatures and sets. It’s pretty exciting stuff. I wish I could share with the world. But we have to preserve a certain amount of showmanship and we’re going to draw that curtain when the time is right.
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So we wait for Avatar 10 Anniversary Edition.
 
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Discotheque

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fucking DECEMBER 2019 now smh. since there's no way these movies aren't gonna be december tentpoles.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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This wasn't unexpected. How was it gonna make December next year when it's already March and they haven't started filming the FOUR movies concurrently?

Mix Master said:
he can join Speilberg in the the hack bin.

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Directors that take their time are now hacks. Okay.
 
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Discotheque

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FTF said:
Disney already has Episode IX locked for Dec 2019, and Avatar 2 gets killed in the states going head to head with it if in Dec.
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but star wars gets killed internationally (which is where most of the gross lies) in that match up so they would flinch first if that year is up for grabs I bet. as absurd as that sounds because it's Star Wars.
 
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wanderingprostheyltite

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
This wasn't unexpected. How was it gonna make December next year when it's already March and they haven't started filming the FOUR movies concurrently?



Directors that take their time are now hacks. Okay.
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Do you have a bat signal for Avatar threads christ

Also pretty sure that poster was joking.

On topic, what I'd give to see that underwater mocap rig/studio. Cutting edge tech erywhere.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Discotheque said:
but star wars gets killed internationally (which is where most of the gross lies) in that match up so they would flinch first if that year is up for grabs I bet. as absurd as that sounds because it's Star Wars.
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China alone would cause Disney to blink. Not to mention that Star Wars will be the somewhat oversaturated property come 2019.

Even if Episode 8 is amazing and hypes people up for 9, 9 is still gonna be some factory-line, Trevorrow-directed affair in the path of a James Cameron movie.
 
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AdventureRacing

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
China alone would cause Disney to blink. Not to mention that Star Wars will be the somewhat oversaturated property come 2019.

Even if Episode 8 is amazing and hypes people up for 9, 9 is still gonna be some factory-line, Trevorrow-directed affair in the path of a James Cameron movie.
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Star Wars is going to make fuck all in China so there isn't much point worrying about that. Episode 9 will still have a ton of hype around it even if Star Wars movies are a little more common nowadays. It will be a big draw.

I'm not sure how things will play out. I don't see why both movies can't release in December though. During the rest of the year we have big blockbusters coming out in the same week or one apart.
 
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MattKeil

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
China alone would cause Disney to blink. Not to mention that Star Wars will be the somewhat oversaturated property come 2019.

Even if Episode 8 is amazing and hypes people up for 9, 9 is still gonna be some factory-line, Trevorrow-directed affair in the path of a James Cameron movie.
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Nope. First rule of the movie business: Do not fuck with Star Wars. Cameron knows this.

Doesn't matter though because by Ep 9 Star Wars should be back to May releases.

AdventureRacing said:
Star Wars is going to make fuck all in China so there isn't much point worrying about that. Episode 9 will still have a ton of hype around it even if Star Wars movies are a little more common nowadays. It will be a big draw.

I'm not sure how things will play out. I don't see why both movies can't release in December though. During the rest of the year we have big blockbusters coming out in the same week or one apart.
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Conventional wisdom is that people don't go out as much in the winter, especially in colder areas, so they're picking and choosing their movies more carefully. When you're trying to crack the billion dollar mark (or maybe two billion in the case of Avatar 2, given its predecessor), being that close to strong competition is not something you want. Avatar in part made the money it did because there was nothing else competing with it for three solid months.
 
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FTF

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Discotheque said:
but star wars gets killed internationally (which is where most of the gross lies) in that match up so they would flinch first if that year is up for grabs I bet. as absurd as that sounds because it's Star Wars.
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Studios retain way more of the gross made domestically than they do internationally. I don't think Disney moves. We'll see though, plus who the hell knows if Avatar 2 will even be done by then.
 
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GCX

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Discotheque said:
but star wars gets killed internationally (which is where most of the gross lies) in that match up so they would flinch first if that year is up for grabs I bet. as absurd as that sounds because it's Star Wars.
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Eh, from Disney's perspective Avatar 2 holds a significantly higher risk. Star Wars is a secured billion dollar blockbuster but Avatar is a bit of a wild card. The fact that the first movie made an absurd amount of money a decade ago doesn't mean much if they won't be able to generate enough hype for the sequel.
 
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ZeoVGM

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
China alone would cause Disney to blink. Not to mention that Star Wars will be the somewhat oversaturated property come 2019.

Even if Episode 8 is amazing and hypes people up for 9, 9 is still gonna be some factory-line, Trevorrow-directed affair in the path of a James Cameron movie.
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Okay, I think the Cameron love is getting a bit nuts here.

Disney is not going to "blink" because of Avatar 2, And the general public doesn't give a damn who is directing Episodes VIII and IX. They don't know the name of the person directing VIII and they won't know the name of the person directing IX, which you apparently have already seen.

December is Star Wars month. And no one would be surprised if they also moved the Han Solo movie there as well.
 
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kevin1025

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FTF said:
Studios retain way more of the gross made domestically than they do internationally. I don't think Disney moves. We'll see though, plus who the hell knows if Avatar 2 will even be done by then.
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We'll probably be wondering what comes after the final anthology film by the point Avatar 2 is nearly out. Not said as a detriment, Cameron should take all the time he's allowed, but yeah, it's a crazy prospect to be thinking that far out from now, haha.
 
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enzo_gt

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can't wait for my grandchildren's children to watch Avatar 2 while they have the plot synopsis for Avatar delivered via electromagnetic pulse directly into their brains, alongside a history of why they should care, consisting of a sentence or two about the generally tepid reaction to the original
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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All I know is James Cameron and FOX have had December 17th/18th two times in a row and both times had the highest grossing movie of all time. I don't see them blinking from the date that they cemented as the Christmas tentpole release window.

Star Wars is definitely big competition and I'm sure it will worry Fox and Cameron. But I'm also sure the sequel to the biggest film of all time in which they have a vested stake in will make Disney consider moving Ep9. At the end of the day, audiences will be used to Star Wars coming out every year by then. Avatar will be the rarer picture.
 
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I know it's not the most popular sentiment, but big shit directors of the last generation just don't exhibit the hunger they once did.

This guy did an unauthorized guerrilla shoot to get the last shot of Kyle Reese being zipped in Cameron's own suit bag so they could get that movie finished in a timely, professional manner.

Him being able to just delay forever taking on making four movies at once is a classic case of an artist creating a project so big, they'll never finish it because the work isn't about having something to show or say, it's just obsession and inertia.

I'm not saying this because I don't like the guy or his movies, he's great and they'll be classics forever. But he's just not the same, anymore. Having carte blanche to just take as long as he wants and spend practically unlimited resources on R&D has neutered what gave him his edge in the first place.

But that's just what I see from where I'm standing. I'll still check out anything he releases, just wish he released stuff a little more often.
 
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vinnygambini

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Jimmy what you doing man.

Still can't wait for the films to be finally released.
 
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wanderingprostheyltite

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GCX said:
He's only 62.

I mean Ridley Scott is 79 and wants to make 6 Alien movies.
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Damn, Cameron younger than I thought. He has some godly workhorse ethic so if anybody can pull this off it's him. How then-overweight Peter Jackson got through LOTR is beyond me. Then again multiple units but still impressive.
 
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Discotheque

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This might be the dumbest post of the day
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what's wrong in there though? Trevorrow is garbage. no james cameron movie since piranha 2 has been worse than jurassic world.

we should lament that he was given the reigns to the last movie of the new star wars trilogy.

in this case it's interest in the IP vs interest in the technical prowess. as much as I love star wars universe far more than I ever will Avatar, Cameron can make some damn good blockbusters still, and crazy spectacle too. so I'm more hyped for that than the last Star Wars movie, no matter how dope Ep. 8 will be. I understand why people would be more hyped for a property they like though, regardless of who is behind it. different strokes and all that. but that aint me.
 
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