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io9:'New Mutants' Has Found Its Sunspot, But Why Are Marvel and Fox Whitewashing Him?

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Fox's upcoming New Mutants has found its Roberto Da Costa (Sunspot) in 23-year-old actor Henry Zaga of Teen Wolf and 13 Reasons Why fame. For some fans, the news was another positive step towards the New Mutants finally making their cinematic debut. For others, though, word of Zaga's casting was bittersweet.

While both Roberto Da Costa and Zaga are Brazilian, Sunspot has been canonically depicted as Afrolatino, which Zaga does not appear to be. When Sunspot was originally introduced in the first issue of The New Mutants back in 1984, it was explained that Roberto, who is from Brazil, was biracial and born to a white American mother and a black Brazilian father. In one particular flashback to his life before he came to live at the Xavier Institute, Roberto recalls experiencing anti-black racism during a soccer game back home, specifically because of his mixed heritage.

In a fit of anger at Roberto's skill on the field, a pair of white players fouls him and when Roberto retaliates, the entire team gangs up on him, throws him to the ground, and beats him.

”Your father's wealth can't change the color of your skin," one player taunts. ”You're still black—an animal masquerading as a human being!"

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As far as origin stories go, Roberto's is one that most explicitly uses mutant-ness as a direct metaphor for racism, which meshed perfectly with the New Mutants' goal of trying to replicate the successes of the X-Men formula with a younger, more ethnically diverse roster.

In the earliest days of his being a member of the New Mutants, Roberto was consistently drawn with the sort of features often associated with Afrolatino Brazilians, in particular, darker skin and curly hair. Over the years, however, as Roberto's gone on star in other Marvel comics, his looks have gradually changed in a way that reads to some as if the company is erasing his blackness.

It's a good read.
 

RedHill

Banned
From what I've seen Henry Zaga looks pretty spot-on to current comic and animated Sunspot. And can we please stop using "white washing" when describing non white actors? Henry isn't white.
 

opricnik

Banned
White washing.

just stop with this stupid word if you dont know what it means.

click bait shit site is shit who is surprised.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
On one hand, I'd say it's to match the Sunspot who already appeared in Days of Future Past

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That said, it's hardly like he was some memorable character, and continuity has never been Fox's strong suit.
 

cr0w

Old Member
So they hire a Brazilian actor to play a Brazilian character, but he's still not dark enough.

Okay.
 

Apt101

Member
I think the casting choice is fine. Hell it's more accurate than most. Look at his IMDB image, it looks like physically he was born to play the role.

It's not like they have to match each adapted character perfectly in a film. If that was the case Nick Fury would have been David Hasslehoff and dear fucking god.

But seriously. This is not white washing IMO.
 
On one hand, the comic white washing looks bad.

On the other hand, you could put a white guy and a black guy in front of me, tell me they're both latino, and I wouldn't even blink. We run the fucking gamut.
 

NandoGip

Member
Im a dark skinned brazilian, having a light skinned brazlian play the character is the same as a white guy playing a black guy imo.

Edit: i could ramble about my experience but i wont. Being latino doesnt mean racism between skin color doesnt exist
 
Ehhh I think im so numb to this that it doesnt bother me as much because of darker african/AA characters getting lighter movie actors BUT I see the problem. Representation matters.
 

jdstorm

Banned
I think the casting choice is fine. Hell it's more accurate than most. Look at his IMDB image, it looks like physically he was born to play the role.

It's not like they have to match each adapted character perfectly in a film. If that was the case Nick Fury would have been David Hasslehoff and dear fucking god.

But seriously. This is not white washing IMO.

They actually made that film.
 

Madness

Member
I think the guy was saying that he started as more Afro-Brazilian but has started to change to more Euro-Brazilian aka Portuguese looking. Brazil has a wide 'variety' of demographic change. The casting isn't necessarily white-washing if Sunspot has already changed in the comics. Again, in Brazil, they don't really see themselves as African-Brazilians or Portuguese/European-Brazilians but mixed now.

But I can see the point the writer was trying to make. That he somehow started as a mixed Mutant who was born to a black Brazilian father and white American mother and had a story about him being too dark, not Brazilian etc. And they've slowly instead just changed him to a light Brazilian over time.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
I think the casting choice is fine. Hell it's more accurate than most. Look at his IMDB image, it looks like physically he was born to play the role.

It's not like they have to match each adapted character perfectly in a film. If that was the case Nick Fury would have been David Hasslehoff and dear fucking god.

But seriously. This is not white washing IMO.
But.... that movie totally exists.

 

jph139

Member
This is less a Fox thing and more of a Marvel thing. I doubt it was even conscious - with his recent appearances after years MIA, I imagine artists were told "draw a sexy Brazilian," they put him on the white end of the spectrum, and editors just shrugged and passed it along.

If you don't tell artists, specifically, to draw a character as black, they usually won't. People default to white. Unconscious bias.

Fox did the same thing - looked for "sexy Brazilian" actors and found a light skinned one. Unless they specifically were looking for Afro-Brazilian, they would probably just pass them over... and recent art references didn't give them any reason to do so.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Im a dark skinned brazilian, having a light skinned brazlian play the character is the same as a white guy playing a black guy imo.

Edit: i could ramble about my experience but i wont. Being latino doesnt mean racism between skin color doesnt exist
I'm in the same situation, but i think Just him being a Brazilian is already good enough. Much better than him being a mexican or bolivian Guy.
 
Yeah if they're going off his latest comic counterpart then blame Marvel for lightening his skin. Though he was definitely still black during the Demon Bear arc so idk.

fwiw rumors say they're actually they're going to cast at least someone that's half Native American for Dani. I think it's supposedly down between two actresses but I can't recall their names.
 

NandoGip

Member
I'm in the same situation, but i think Just him being a Brazilian is already good enough. Much better than him being a mexican or bolivian Guy.

I think it's cool but the fact he started dark skin but then was made into a stereotype doesn't sit well with me... Growing up in America with a black Brazilian mom and a white Brazilian dad puts me in a weird spot in this country racially, so having a comic character that I could relate with was cool. But whatever I guess.
 
ITT: white ppl will say " who cares! Atleast he is Brazilian!" Dark skin Brazilians will say " I care! His story specifically needs him to be dark. Discrimination/prejudice is still a thing in our communities when it comes to dark skin!" Then they will be promptly ignored by more white guys saying " quite bitching/ I just want a good story/ it's not important to me/ etc".

Come on gaf. For once prove wrong.
 

RedHill

Banned
ITT: white ppl will say " who cares! Atleast he is Brazilian!" Dark skin Brazilians will say " I care! His story specifically needs him to be dark. Discrimination/prejudice is still a thing in our communities when it comes to dark skin!" Then they will be promptly ignored by more white guys saying " quite bitching/ I just want a good story/ it's not important to me/ etc".

Come on gaf. For once prove wrong.
Jesus, Gaf is one of the most socially sensitive, liberal communities online and some of you act like you're on Reddit.

Why Marvel wasn't called out for removing Sunspot's black heritage is beyond me, but I'm not going to fault them for casting someone who looks almost identical to the character's current incarnation.
 

methane47

Member
I think the casting choice is fine. Hell it's more accurate than most. Look at his IMDB image, it looks like physically he was born to play the role.

It's not like they have to match each adapted character perfectly in a film. If that was the case Nick Fury would have been David Hasslehoff and dear fucking god.

But seriously. This is not white washing IMO.

ur kidding right?
 

Flipyap

Member
It's not like they have to match each adapted character perfectly in a film. If that was the case Nick Fury would have been David Hasslehoff and dear fucking god.
But... the movie version of Nick Fury is based on the Ultimates comics where the character was literally drawn as Samuel L. Jackson.

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Not sure if movie marvel or comic marvel is at fault but that character has been whitewashed somewhere along the way. IN what way is Henry Zaga not white? Because he comes from Latin America?
 

The Kree

Banned
Not sure if movie marvel or comic marvel is at fault but that character has been whitewashed somewhere along the way. IN what way is Henry Zaga not white? Because he comes from Latin America?

Comic Marvel is to blame first. Fox could have corrected their misstep here, but they didn't. Many creators are still firmly in the habit of defaulting everybody to white.
 

caliph95

Member
Not sure if movie marvel or comic marvel is at fault but that character has been whitewashed somewhere along the way. IN what way is Henry Zaga not white? Because he comes from Latin America?
Guessing it's less whitewashing more light washing if you want to talk semantics, though race can be arbitrary at times
 

Hopeford

Member
On one hand hey, seeing a white Brazilian character is cool and I can relate to him. There's not a lot of Brazilian characters in general so hey. On the other hand... this isn't fair and the character was meant for a slightly different demographic. This probably shouldn't have happened.

Ehhhh.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
The actor is more reminiscent of how Sunspot currently looks in the comics, but in the older comics he was indeed more afro looking.

Also that actor is really Portuguese looking. You wouldn't be wrong if you think he's white.
 

Hystzen

Member
We getting Sunspot in this film amd also tv show The Gifted

We had 3 sunspots in 3 years due to DOFP being out in 2014
 
Well I remember Sunspot growing up in the 80's. He was pretty dark skinned. Loved his character. Then I stopped reading X Titles then along popped this character in the Avengers Hickman run with the same name. I thought for sure he must've been a different character.

So it's not casting that changed his skin tone it was the comics at some point in the early 2000's I guess.
 
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