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Sean said:
Siri API would be amazing but I don't see how it could possibly work with the massive number of third party apps.

What happens when someone asks "What's the score of the Yankees game?" and the user has 10 different sports apps installed on their phone and they are all competing to answer the question?
You can already say “Search Wolfram Alpha for Apple’s stock price ten years ago.” Why can't people imagine saying “Search Pennant for Yankee’s season record ten years ago.”?

That said, Siri is an 'app' itself, not just an interface. You don't open the Reminders app or SMS app and speak to Siri in it (the microphone icon is for speech-to-text). So the only way in the current Apple Siri interface to integrate third would be through services at the back end. I'd eventually like third party developers to provide their own persona/voices but I don't see that happening.
 
Sean said:
Siri API would be amazing but I don't see how it could possibly work with the massive number of third party apps.

What happens when someone asks "What's the score of the Yankees game?" and the user has 10 different sports apps installed on their phone and they are all competing to answer the question?
It could just ask you once which one you would prefer it to use.
 
Number45 said:
I'm thinking something like that will allow me to protect the phone when it's outside of its pouch. Tempted, but I'll wait for a while to see how paranoid I get - I never felt the need to put a case on my 3GS at all.

Same here, my 3GS has a scruffed back now though, I'd like to keep my white 4S all lovely and this case looks thin enough not to affect the overall feel.

Are the official Apple bumpers supposed to be any good?

Also, in The Verge review, what dock are they using? Not an official Apple one by the look of things?
 
Does anyone remember if they needed to sign (or pre-sign) for Apple's bumpers coming in the mail?

I don't know if I will be able to grab it tomorrow when my bumper is supposed to come but I don't see the option to pre-sign for it on the Order Status page.

If the pre-sign option isn't available, that means I don't need to sign for it correct?
 
Was this posted?

http://gizmodo.com/5848931/sprint-and-verizon-to-unlock-the-iphone-4s-for-international-travelers

International travelers who want an iPhone 4S for its global roaming should buy their handset from Sprint or Verizon Wireless. These two carriers will unlock your phone so you can use it with any international rate plan.

It all comes down to the micro-SIM slot and what each carrier is going to do with it. AT&T locks the micro-SIM slot so you can only use the phone on its network. When you travel overseas, you must purchase AT&T's costly international roaming plans.

Sprint and Verizon, though, use CDMA for their domestic service and the micro-SIM slot for international service only. These two carriers can unlock the micro-SIM card slot and not worry about people jumping ship to another carrier.

Between Sprint and Verizon, Sprint offers the better deal on the iPhone 4S. It's selling the handset with an unlimited data plan and an unlocked micro-SIM slot. Verizon does not have an unlimited data plan and will unlock your handset, but only after you have been a customer in good standing for 60 days. This international unlock is available for all Verizon's world phones, but this is the first time it applies to the iPhone.
 
Verizon shipping email and tracking number get.

Shame it's UPS and not Fedex. UPS always gets here so late in the day, while Fedex gets here by early afternoon at the latest.
 
Eric WK said:
Verizon shipping email and tracking number get.

Shame it's UPS and not Fedex. UPS always gets here so late in the day, while Fedex gets here by early afternoon at the latest.
Damn, I still haven't got mine yet. Really want it!
 
Eric WK said:
Verizon shipping email and tracking number get.

Shame it's UPS and not Fedex. UPS always gets here so late in the day, while Fedex gets here by early afternoon at the latest.

Same here just got it this morning.
 
Yeah I checked for the reference # trick last night and got nothing l, unless I did it wrong.

I think it's ridiculous that 2 days prior to delivery most still don't have their shipping notices.
 
X-Frame said:
Yeah I checked for the reference # trick last night and got nothing l, unless I did it wrong.

I think it's ridiculous that 2 days prior to delivery most still don't have their shipping notices.
Today may not be when we get our shipping notices either. If its getting overnighted than we probably won't see something until tomorrow morning...which will drive me nuts.

As long as I get my phone on Friday I'll be good, but the lesson learned for me is to never trust AT&T with something so precious...so magnificent...something...that make me want to fuck it...

My loins are for Apple only.

Edit: FUCK YES

AT&T Premier Email said:
Thank you for your recent purchase from the AT&T Premier Online Store.  We're pleased that you chose AT&T as your service provider.

We wanted to confirm that your order for iPhone 4S 64GB White on 06-OCT-2011 00:00:00 is still scheduled to be delivered as early as October 14, 2011.
 
RubxQub said:
Today may not be when we get our shipping notices either. If its getting overnighted than we probably won't see something until tomorrow morning...which will drive me nuts.

As long as I get my phone on Friday I'll be good, but the lesson learned for me is to never trust AT&T with something so precious...so magnificent...something...that make me want to fuck it...

My loins are for Apple only.

Just checked my status on AT&T.com -- and while my status still says "processing," I noticed, for the first time, that there is a separate message that says" "Pre-ordered devices will ship on or around Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011."

I remain optimistic that I'll have my phone on Friday.
 
Shurs said:
Just checked my status on AT&T.com -- and while my status still says "processing," I noticed, for the first time, that there is a separate message that says" "Pre-ordered devices will ship on or around Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011."

I remain optimistic that I'll have my phone on Friday.

I didnt preorder the 4s, but when I ordered my 4, it said it wouldnt ship until the day before I was supposed to have it.

It actually was delivered a day before release.
 
Fellow Verizoners that got your confirmations - What time did you pre-order? I did it around 8:30AM Eastern, so I'm wondering if you guys were extreme early birds.
 
I rolled the dice on the Switcheasy Duo

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and the iSkin Solo FX SE.

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I may end up sending both back and going in a totally different direction. I've had iSkin Revo on my OG and 3GS models. A case is one damn tough decision!
 
undecided said:
Just received my shipping notice for an apple.com preorder after 1 pm central on Friday.

Still in china but will be here on the 14th.
Mine is still in China too, wow.

With my iPhone 4 it was in Alaska by now, moving all over the place for a week.
 
I may get one of those slipcovers the more I think about it. Maybe couple that with a bumper. Thinking about all of my (non rage induced) phone breakages, 75% have happened by being in my car and forgetting the phone was on my lap, then getting out of the car.
 
Yessssss my phone shipped even tho the email said 14-21 days.

I'm getting an incipio feather and stealth armor carbon fiber back. Not sure if the feather can go over the back but I'm gonna find out.
 
Vik_Vaughn said:
Fellow Verizoners that got your confirmations - What time did you pre-order? I did it around 8:30AM Eastern, so I'm wondering if you guys were extreme early birds.
About 3:10 AM Eastern.
 
Cases...

Apple spends so much time on engineering and designing a device so meticulously, only to have shitty plastic thrown on it and hiding all of that effort. Makes the device feel bigger, look cheaper, and make it harder to access to buttons on the edges.

What's the risk of going caseless? Potentially dropping the phone and having it break.
What's the advantage of putting on a case? Potentially dropping the phone and having it potentially not break.

A case doesn't guarantee the safety of the phone...the best defense against that would be just handling your device with a modest amount of care.

I strongly encourage people to go caseless. The only people that should even be considering a case are people that are especially careless or klutzy...and even for those people a very basic case like a bumper or something about as thin as 1mm would protect the device just as well as something that adds considerable bulk and nastiness.

Just rubs me when people assume a case is an automatic when I've had an iPhone for over 2 years now and never had any problems at all...and that's including accidental drops on tile floors. Hell, I'm not even particularly over careful with my phone. I spin it in my hand all the time and throw it on my bed from a distance while I get ready to go to sleep.

Use your head and your iPhone won't get dead! My phone looks pretty much exactly like it did on day 1 and it's been caseless and heavily used the entire time.
 
Unconditional said:
Yessssss my phone shipped even tho the email said 14-21 days.

I'm getting an incipio feather and stealth armor carbon fiber back. Not sure if the feather can go over the back but I'm gonna find out.

What's the stealth carbon back?
 
I used an iSkin Revo for the first year with my 3GS and it has been naked since then. I am extremely careful with all of my stuff. The iPhone and iPad get babied like none other. Saying that, I have noticed scratching that I am not pleased with during the course of normal use with no mishaps <wood, *knock*>.
Just tossing it in my bag and having it in my pocket has put some wear on it.

The reason I ordered the Switcheasy Duo is that I can use it naked and still have some protection for it while it is a passenger. I keep my iPad 2 naked (with a Dodocase bookback) but store it in a Timbuk2 plush sleeve when not in use.

The real danger for these devices IMO is when they are around, but not in use (as Vik mentioned just above). I swear by casing and protecting them when they are not in hand.
 
Siri looks like it is a solid voice recognition and is going to be monumental for people constantly driving as well as the disabled. Some of the commands are looking tedious like sending messages and having to correct the message two times when typing it could have been done in a second or two. Voice search (which I did with Google app already) calender entries and alarms are how I envision using Siri. Glad it is there, hoping to see it integrate with other applications. That beep is going to drive me nuts though. Why does Apple still insist on having the worst alert noises imaginable on their phones. Really wish we could put custom ones on.

Damn it, 32GB White 4S still hasn't shipped. Get on it ATT!
 
I bought this case in anticipation:

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Put it on my i4 last night, it's really great. Nice and sturdy (something my inCase Snap was not) and very minimalistic. It ALMOST fits in my dock, but it's not an issue since I can sync wireless now. I didn't use the screen protector that came with it, but it seems high quality. A great deal for $20, at any rate.

I got the Ice version, btw. In retrospect, I maybe should've gotten the dry Ice, it supposedly has a little better grip. No biggie.

Bring on the 4S!
 
RubxQub, that's your story, but i've had two friends who've broken their iPhone 4's from caseless drops at a bar and, reading TIMN's review of the 4S, Topolsky admitted to dropping and cracking his phone twice this past year.

myself, i love my $2 plastic/gel case. it lets me get away with handling my phone like my old dumbphones of yore, while still being thin enough to sit comfortably in my pocket. i've dropped the device dozens of times to no ill effects.

YMMV of course.
 
scorcho said:
RubxQub, that's your story, but i've had two friends who've broken their iPhone 4's from caseless drops at a bar and, reading TIMN's review of the 4S, Topolsky admitted to dropping and cracking his phone twice this past year.

myself, i love my $2 plastic/gel case. it lets me get away with handling my phone like my old dumbphones of yore, while still being thin enough to sit comfortably in my pocket. i've dropped the device dozens of times to no ill effects.

YMMV of course.

Talk to me about this $2 case....
 
scorcho said:
RubxQub, that's your story, but i've had two friends who've broken their iPhone 4's from caseless drops at a bar and, reading TIMN's review of the 4S, Topolsky admitted to dropping and cracking his phone twice this past year.

myself, i love my $2 plastic/gel case. it lets me get away with handling my phone like my old dumbphones of yore, while still being thin enough to sit comfortably in my pocket. i've dropped the device dozens of times to no ill effects.

YMMV of course.
Very true, of course. Definitely wouldn't go as far as saying cases are useless, but it seems like for the vast vast majority (I'd be shocked if the number was less than 90%), people automatically assume that you need a case on these things and buy one.

There's no shortage of them out there, and some of them are pretty cool (the Lifeproof one someone linked earlier is actually a fantastic case from the looks of it...insane protection with fairly little bulk and looks good on the phone)...I just don't want to believe that I'm in the minority as far as damaged phones go.

In my mind, the money spent on cases far outweighs the total amount of money people would spend on iPhone replacements. Assuming a case only costs $10 (which is on the low-end), 1 out of every 20 people would have to break their iPhone completely and get a replacement phone to make the two scenarios equivalent. Heck, if you up that number to the more realistic price of $20 for a case, you're looking at 1 in 10.

Would 1 person out of every 10 really break their phone and need a replacement?! I'd think not, but maybe I really am in the minority here.

Edit: Order Update...I have a UPS tracking number... yes...YES
 
We're also prone to care more about the fragility of these devices because they are touchscreen units.

If I had a dime for every spiderweb shatter I've seen...
 
Talon- said:
We're also prone to care more about the fragility of these devices because they are touchscreen units.

If I had a dime for every spiderweb shatter I've seen...
You'd have like 30 cents?

Honestly, how many of these have you actually seen? I think I can remember ever seeing one anywhere in person.
 
Vik_Vaughn said:
Talk to me about this $2 case....
http://www.meritline.com/newsearch.aspx?SearchTerm=iphone+4+tpu

looks better in person than in the pictures, and the material is a plastic-gel hybrid that has a lot of flex and doesn't collect pocket lint.

RubxQub said:
In my mind, the money spent on cases far outweighs the total amount of money people would spend on iPhone replacements. Assuming a case only costs $10 (which is on the low-end), 1 out of every 20 people would have to break their iPhone completely and get a replacement phone to make the two scenarios equivalent. Heck, if you up that number to the more realistic price of $20 for a case, you're looking at 1 in 10.
i agree - a lot of the cases i've seen are more for appearances than protection, and cost quite a bit to boot. myself, i just wanted something cheap and durable to protect the front and back glass, which the el cheapo case does perfectly. i've had this phone fly out of my hands and do cartwheels on a tiled floor without damage ;)

i do draw the line at screen protectors - the glass on the 4/4S is much more resilient to scratches than the previous generations 3G/3GS.
 
RubxQub said:
You'd have like 30 cents?

Honestly, how many of these have you actually seen? I think I can remember ever seeing one anywhere in person.
College campus so I've seen a couple dozen - not just iPhones, all varieties of smart phones. I know of at least 5 friends/acquaintances that have done that. One was a hilarious incident where he was celebrating a kill in CoD:MW, and he smashed his controller right on his phone. The rest of them were drops.

Not to mention my brother's last iPod Touch.

Frankly, I bought a case not necessarily for the meager protection, but because the iPhone 4 is a slippery ass phone. The smoke InCase Snap provided a nice matte texture to it that also happens to have saved my phone from 4-5 drops - one of which was a bounce on asphalt. Nary a scratch. And I'm the anal one that refuses to touch his phone with dirty hands.
 
I'm going to have to try my luck in central London around 1pm to find an O2 shop with the phone I want (white 64gb) in stock. Doubt it's gonna happen. Anyone know any hidden O2 shops away from lots of people?
 
Oh no, not this again :(

It just weird that folks think damage to the iPhone is so rare. Apple obviously is looking to address it with AppleCare +, and the related news that Apple is using that to cut back on the Genius Bar's willingness to replace them should be an indication that it's at least a little more prevalent than some want to admit.
 
I have dropped my 3GS more times than a drum stick at a Nick Cannon convention but I have seen a shit ton of shattered iPhone 4 screens on the subways. My brothers 4 being the latest casualty. Maybe it is the more angular profile that results in more damaging impacts or simply the fact that the 4 sold more than the 3GS so you are likely too see more broken.

The 4S is causing me to revisit my stance on cases.
 
I'm just a grumpy dude who despises shitty cases at the end of the day.

If people only bought awesome ones I'd be happy, but all of this just speaks to me being emotionally impacted by what other people do with their property. I'm just wasting brain cycles on it, but I felt the need to put it out there again :)
 
RubxQub said:
I'm just a grumpy dude who despises shitty cases at the end of the day.

If people only bought awesome ones I'd be happy, but all of this just speaks to me being emotionally impacted by what other people do with their property. I'm just wasting brain cycles on it, but I felt the need to put it out there again :)
Otterboxes mentally and physically pain me.

I'm sure it's of a good build quality, but you're basically putting a pontoon on your phone.
 
I don't drop my phone often, but it has happened on occasion (exactly three times with my 4).

The bumper saved its life every time, I'd say. Without it, the screen would likely have broken. Still, I really won't go any further than a bumper. Those Otterboxes and other such bulky cases are overkill and destroy the aesthetics of the phone while making it more difficult to carry.
 
Pre-iPhone 4 models are much more forgiving in terms of drops, IMO. I've owned every model and dropped them all at least once with no effects to the screen.

I dropped my i4 exactly once (from about 3 ft), it was even wearing an inCase Snap, and the front screen shattered.
 
RubxQub said:
You'd have like 30 cents?

Honestly, how many of these have you actually seen? I think I can remember ever seeing one anywhere in person.

While waiting for service at the Apple Store back in April of this year I recall at least five people walking up to the Genius Bar with broken screens in the course of about half an hour.
 
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