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I'm definitely going to get one of these. it'll be a nice upgrade from my Samsung MyShot...

Question: is there a consensus for which carrier to choose? I know it likely depends on the area, but I'm new here (college student yay) and don't really know about how the service is.

I think Verizon's out -- we have free Wi-Fi all over campus and VZW makes you pay $30/month for a 2GB data plan, which I really don't need. So then it's between AT&T and Sprint, the benefits to AT&T being faster download speeds, simultaneous talk/web, and a slightly cheaper plan, and the benefits to Sprint being unlimited everything.

Help?
 
JDeluis said:
Will image stabilization be only exclusive to the iPhone 4s or will it be also included with the ios5 update?
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I'm going to guess that the IS will need a faster processor and thus the feature will officially stay exclusive to the 4S only.
Hope I'm wrong
 
Maxim726X said:
EXACTLY what I wanted.

Same form factor, better camera, and finally 64 gigs of storage... Now I can finally have the all-inclusive device I've always wanted.

I've waited this long but I think I'm finally going to bite.
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I personally think the better camera is a bit pointless without a bigger or better screen to view the images on.
 
I'm kind of glad this isn't a full reworked update. I just got the 4 a couple months ago and am still loving it.
 
nib95 said:
I personally think the better camera is a bit pointless without a bigger or better screen to view the images on.
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You could make that argument with most cameras... I just want better quality pictures on my phone.

It's a really small improvement, but truthfully I'm glad that there wasn't a physical redesign. I wasn't feeling the aluminum mocks that have been floating around.
 
ReconYoda said:
Transfer said images to computer with huge screen?
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Inevitably, sure. But I'd rather just be able to properly enjoy them on the device they're captured on too. Increasing screen size isn't really asking a lot. Hell, I have a DSLR when I want to take proper pictures for print, events, holidays etc. Still no way the 4S's camera is going to compete with most higher end digi cam's or DSLR's so again, without the extra screen coverage it just seems a bit fruitless.

With Apple it's always one step forward one step back.
 
The lack of a new form factor seems to be a bigger deal than I thought it would. Maybe more people want to show off their new shit than I thought, and with it looking the same, well.... Folks are taking this so hard.

nib95 said:
I personally think the better camera is a bit pointless without a bigger or better screen to view the images on.
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lol, cmon man. Noone keeps their images exclusively on their phones.

nib95 said:
Inevitably, sure. But I'd rather just be able to properly enjoy them on the device they're captured on too. Increasing screen size isn't really asking a lot.

With Apple it's always one step forward one step back.
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I would have liked this too, but honestly, they arent going to raise the screen size until the tech for a resolution increase that will fit in their model is available.
 
I'll leave this here

Looking for the post where we rip into Apple and the oh-so-magical iPhone 4S? You’ve found it. All the voice functions and competitive pricing aside, the iPhone 4S hardware is Lame. (Yes, with a capital “L”). Just how lame you ask? Compared to what Android is offering–and has been offering since the beginning of the year–it barely manages to keep up.

Let’s recap the main focal points of the iFail 4S announced today. Unspecified dual-core processor, 8 megapixel camera with 1080p video capture, 14.4 HSPA+, up to 64 GB storage and a Retina display. As you can see, pretty boring for a phone announced at the end of 2011. So just what does Android already have to combat the iPhone 4S? And what about phones that will be out in the near future?

First up for dissection: processors. Apple has put a dual-core processor inside the iPhone 4S. Big deal. Android phones have been rocking dual-core processors for a long time now. The Samsung Galaxy S II utilizes a 1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos in most of its configurations. The T-Mobile version of the GSII comes with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon S3. And that’s normal for Android phones. In fact, if your Android device doesn’t have a dual-core processor, then you’re behind the times. Google is set to announce the next Nexus in about a week, and you can bet that device will have a dual-core at the least. Oh, and don’t forget the quad-core NVIDIA processors coming to market soon.

Apple placed a lot of emphasis on the camera of the 4S. It’s an advanced 8 megapixel sensor that features 1080p video capture. Apparently, Apple has been studying HTC’s latest devices. HTC has been working hard to improve the camera phone lately. The myTouch 4G Slide really turned it up a notch, and the Amaze 4G will take it to the next level. SmartShot, BurstShot, SweepShot panorama, ClearShot HDR, PerfectPics, 1080p video capture, a dedicated camera key and a dedicated camcorder key? The Amaze should give even the upcoming Nexus a run for its money. It’s rumored to launch with an incredible camera that will blow you away. And if you want megapixels, Samsung is working to release a 16 megapixel smartphone camera. It should be on display come MWC.

Want to hear a joke? HSPA+ 14.4 Mbps. Want to hear an even funnier joke? CDMA/EVDO Rev A. Not everyone has access to 4, or even “faux,” G Internet. And that’s not such a big deal. But any and every major Android device released in the last year has at least had the necessary radios on board to go as fast as the network in your area will let you. If you want to stick with HSPA+, T-Mobile is about to release a couple 42 Mbps HSPA+ devices. Sprint has WiMax devices galore. Verizon and AT&T? They use LTE, a seriously fast 4G technology. So fast, it makes Sprint’s 3G look like dial-up. In fact, that’s roughly how fast Sprint’s iPhone will go. Seriously.

Let’s say you want a ton of storage, but you don’t want to pay an arm and a leg for it. Android devices offer expandable storage. You can choose how much internal storage you want and pop in a microSD card for more. You can also take that card with you and keep using it time and time again. With the iPhone, what you buy is what you get. And if you want 64 GB of storage, then it’s going to cost you $400 on contract.

The display on the iPhone 4S is a true testament to just how far Android devices have come. When the Retina display was first announced, everyone was amazed at how crisp and clear images were. But that was a year ago. Now, display technology has far surpassed the Retina display. SLCD qHD displays are fantastic, and Super AMOLED Plus is absolutely incredible. When put next to an iPhone 4S, you can tell Samsung really knows how to make a display. If you think Super AMOLED Plus looks good, just wait until you see an HD Super AMOLED display. Samsung’s latest crop of displays have been called jaw-droppingly gorgeous. And guess what? The next Nexus will indeed be utilizing a 1280 x 720 HD Super AMOLED display. With a pixel density of 320ppi, what more could you ask for in a display?

Did we miss anything? Is there anything else Android devices can boast that the iPhones can’t? How about NFC, removable batteries, hard keyboards, different display sizes, Flash, an open Market and the greatest community around. Yeah, all that and a little more.
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FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
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Dude, shitty article pulled from an Android based biased as hell site. At least you didnt post a link though. Still you shouldn't have bothered. I couldnt make it past the first paragraph.
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
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Is there a link to that article or is it a suer post?


Cipherr said:
Dude, shitty article pulled from an Android based biased as hell site. At least you didnt post a link though. Still you shouldn't have bothered. I couldnt make it past the first paragraph.
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Do you not see that there is a whole lot of truth to it though? This coming from an iPhone 4 user. Honestly, the 4GS is a let down update imo. The article specifies just a few of the reasons why.
 
X-Frame said:
I wonder which iPhone 4 the iPhone 4S looks like -- the Verizon or AT&T one?

I have the AT&T .. and it would be awesome if I could still use the same Bumper cases with the 4S. You can't with the Verizon iPhone 4 though.

HOWEVER, now that there's no antenna issues I might not even use a Bumper. So long as my skins fit (which they should).
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How do we know there is no antenna issue?
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
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Welp Apple had a good run, time to pack it in. Don't know what I'd do without Flash.
 
giga said:
IS needs a gyro.
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I thought the iPhone 4 had a gyroscope?

irfan said:
I'm going to guess that the IS will need a faster processor and thus the feature will officially stay exclusive to the 4S only.
Hope I'm wrong
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I too hope you are totally wrong :)
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
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Hilarious article. Gotta love how the author tries to shit on the processor even though it's the same one in the iPad that is crushing all it's competition in that area right now.
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.

But anyways, I will update later in the year to a white iPhone 4S 32GB. Currently rocking a 4 but it's getting a tad slow and full now.

Cant wait for IOS 5 too!
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The writer obviously does not know that the dual core in Samsung S II performs at less than half of what the A5 dual core processor does (the one in iPad 2 and now in iPhone 4S)
 
Proper force with proper optimization > brute force without proper optimization
 
BocoDragon said:
Android and Me, huh?

How well would a "PS3 is a piece of shit" article from some Nintendo blog go down here :P
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I don't even think Apple blogs shit on ANdroid like this (except for ObamaPacman)

In reality the cold hard facts are some are true, e.g the megapixels, the Processor (just the time it took for a dual core, not the actual power), the LTE, etc. But these are front facing facts. He didn't delve deeper into what it means for the whole iPhone experience, the fact the current iPhone has been rated the best camera even at lower megapixels, etc.

Like I said all I was trying to do was figure out what Android phones are out there, but it seems as if almost all the sites have a strong attraction to apple!

Apple blogs I'm 99% sure have never been critically interested in Android devices

-Macrumours
-9to5 Mac
-TUAW
-Probably a few more I've forgotten
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I don't even think Apple blogs shit on ANdroid like this (except for ObamaPacman)

In reality the cold hard facts are some are true, e.g the megapixels, the Processor, the LTE, etc. But these are front facing facts. He didn't delve deeper into what it means for the whole iPhone experience, the fact the current iPhone has been rated the best camera even at lower megapixels, etc.

Like I said all I was trying to do was figure out what Android phones are out there, but it seems as if almost all the sites have a strong attraction to apple!

Apple blogs I'm 99% sure have never been critically interested in Android devices

-Macrumours
-9to5 Mac
-TUAW
-Probably a few more I've forgotten
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I like where you're going with this... continue.
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
the fact the current iPhone has been rated the best camera even at lower megapixels, etc.
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What fact is this then? As mentioned before, I own an Iphone 4 and my dad a Galaxy S2. I did my own comparison between the camera's and nearly every time the S2 performed better. Better white balance accuracy, more detail, less noise etc. Don't know if it was just my particular testing (just around the house), but I'd love to see the tests that conclude these 'fact's' you mention.
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I'll leave this here



FUnny thing was I was just looking on an Android site for the most recent phone they released, and I never really knew how bitter "professional" websites were.
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Mecha, There's nothing professional about those places, they are just fan sites. and no surprise, it reads like your average Android fan rant on a tech blog comments section. Not sure why you are wasting the energy on it.
 
planar1280 said:
The writer obviously does not know that the dual core in Samsung S II performs at less than half of what the A5 dual core processor does (the one in iPad 2 and now in iPhone 4S)
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Can you confirm/post links. I just lit this guy up on Twitter now..but just said it was a poorly aimed article
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I don't even think Apple blogs shit on ANdroid like this (except for ObamaPacman)
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I actually like Android but I think, by and large, militant Android users have to shit on iOS and find superiority where they can because there's no reason for Android to exist, otherwise.

god I hope coperdickus doesn't snitch on me for this
 
nib95 said:
What fact is this then? As mentioned before, I own an Iphone 4 and my dad a Galaxy S2. I did my own comparison between the camera's and nearly every time the S2 performed better. Better white balance accuracy, more detail, less noise etc. Don't know if it was just my particular testing (just around the house), but I'd love to see the tests that conclude these 'fact's' you mention.
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No I wasn't comparing that phone, it was the phones that came out during the i4 earlier lifespan where it was rated to have the better camera

I wouldn't be surprised that a phone released a few months ago has a better cam that one released 16 months ago
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
No I wasn't comparing that phone, it was the phones that came out during the i4 earlier lifespan where it was rated to have the better camera

I wouldn't be surprised that a phone released a few months ago has a better cam that one released 16 months ago
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Your avatar is distracting
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
Can you confirm/post links. I just lit this guy up on Twitter now..but just said it was a poorly aimed article
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http://9to5google.com/2011/09/12/sa...aster-than-the-galaxy-tab-10-1s-tegra-2-chip/

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Schmitty said:
So, I guess I will wait another year with my 3G and see if they change the design next year.
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You aren't living.
 
ecurbj said:
Does this appeal to you or convince you to want the 4S?

"beefier CPU, GPU, more storage, better video recording capabilities, world phone, Sprint-accessible, better camera and quality, Siri, longer talk time. and only 3grams heavier."

If not, wait till next October for the 4G LTE version of the iPhone.
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I've been selling phones for AT&T for a while. It's hard for me to sell something I can't get passionate about and this is one of them.

I feel like I'm getting the 3GS sequel. As sexy as the iPhone 4 is, I was eager to see something else. Something that will match some of the glaring features of Apple's competitors... a larger screen being one of them.

From a business standpoint, it kinda makes sense: go with minimal upgrade with same body form and sell buttloads of phones. No brainer really. They're going to make a lot of money off of this. However I want something different and I'm ready for something different.

Whatever... I'm probably going to buy it anyway despite my bitching.
 
Chatted with an Apple rep and asked if I could use the phone overseas without needing it be unlocked and she said yes. Not sure if that's correct but if so…
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
I don't even think Apple blogs shit on ANdroid like this (except for ObamaPacman)

In reality the cold hard facts are some are true, e.g the megapixels, the Processor (just the time it took for a dual core, not the actual power), the LTE, etc. But these are front facing facts. He didn't delve deeper into what it means for the whole iPhone experience, the fact the current iPhone has been rated the best camera even at lower megapixels, etc.

Like I said all I was trying to do was figure out what Android phones are out there, but it seems as if almost all the sites have a strong attraction to apple!

Apple blogs I'm 99% sure have never been critically interested in Android devices

-Macrumours
-9to5 Mac
-TUAW
-Probably a few more I've forgotten
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Just like the iOS threads here. Rarely is anything android even mentioned. The android threads, not so much.
 
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