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[VanMardigan]

I'm sort of torn here. None of the features were really compelling, other than the tweaks to speed and battery life. Battery life alone might be worth it if it means I can activate push without my phone dying overnight.

Obviously I'd have to sell my phone on Ebay to subsidize my costs. Has anyone done this before? Is it just a matter of taking out the sim card and wiping it clean through iTunes?

Is anyone going to ride it out and get nest year's model fully subsidized? I think the first gen owners who skipped 3g hoping for a huge upgrade should feel disappointed. High speed 3g was a much bigger deal imo than this year's changes.

 

[DarkJC]

Personally I think this update was geared much more to those with original iPhones. Not only do they now get the speed of 3G, they get more space for the same price, and a faster processor and more RAM to back up the 3G speed. For an OG iPhone owner this update is fantastic, imo.

Next year will be an upgrade more suited to the 3G users, when their contracts are over.

edit: Not to mention a pretty sharp looking camera update.

 

[dorkimoe]

I'm sort of torn here. None of the features were really compelling, other than the tweaks to speed and battery life. Battery life alone might be worth it if it means I can activate push without my phone dying overnight.

Obviously I'd have to sell my phone on Ebay to subsidize my costs. Has anyone done this before? Is it just a matter of taking out the sim card and wiping it clean through iTunes?

Is anyone going to ride it out and get nest year's model fully subsidized? I think the first gen owners who skipped 3g hoping for a huge upgrade should feel disappointed. High speed 3g was a much bigger deal imo than this year's changes.

Im upgrading just for the battery life, and better camera

but people are getting 300 bucks plus for their old iphone 3gs

 

[kaskade]

I'm currently on tmobile with a 2g iphone with my parents plan so I don't have to pay anything. I was thinking about upgrading to the new iPhone but the new features really aren't all that amazing. From what I've read it's really nothing most phones can't do already. I'm thinking of just staying with tmo and getting the new android phone when it comes out hopefully this month and just paying the data. I know this is an iPhone thread but if anyone has used android how is it?

 

[mattiewheels]

sooooo, i can hold home and say:

'play david bowie, station to station'

and it seamlessly starts playing the album in any app? or does it have to be on the home screen?

 

[Blackhead]

I'm sort of torn here. None of the features were really compelling, other than the tweaks to speed and battery life. Battery life alone might be worth it if it means I can activate push without my phone dying overnight.

Obviously I'd have to sell my phone on Ebay to subsidize my costs. Has anyone done this before? Is it just a matter of taking out the sim card and wiping it clean through iTunes?

Is anyone going to ride it out and get nest year's model fully subsidized? I think the first gen owners who skipped 3g hoping for a huge upgrade should feel disappointed. High speed 3g was a much bigger deal imo than this year's changes.

Actually the change to batter life is not that much WiFi usage is less draining, as well as playing music and videos but I spend most of my time surfing on 3G and using apps and that seems to be the same. This was the improvement that I was most hoping for and if I get a 3GS and the find I have to get a battery as well, I'll be very disappointed.

I'm currently on tmobile with a 2g iphone with my parents plan so I don't have to pay anything. I was thinking about upgrading to the new iPhone but the new features really aren't all that amazing. From what I've read it's really nothing most phones can't do already. I'm thinking of just staying with tmo and getting the new android phone when it comes out hopefully this month and just paying the data. I know this is an iPhone thread but if anyone has used android how is it?

Em... yeah totally the wrong thread.

 

[teiresias]

I have an original iPhone, and I've already posted elsewhere about how I'm looking to get away from AT&T because of coverage issues where I live now, so my views are from a purely academic perspective I suppose because I wouldn't be upgrading to the new iPhone either way (unless they'd announced a new carrier partner :lol).

My main issue with the 3GS is that it has some nice new features, but none of them really fundamentally fix some basic problems with the way the phone's OS operates.

A new camera with video is all well and good for those that would use it, but they're using voice dialing as a way to force people to buy new hardware? That really rubs me the wrong way - that functionality that's been in phones for years is being used as a way to persuade one to do a hardware upgrade purchase. IMO, voice dialing is a matter of auto safety and usability and SHOULD NOT be a matter of sales.

Some of the 3.0 features are nice, but my main gripe is still with the antiquated pop-up system used for notifications. Say what one will about the Pre, but it's implementation of such things is far better and more robust than Apple's on the iPhone, and one would think Apple would see the utility in the way its designed and, quite frankly, steal it.

I surmise, however, that it's use of pop-up notifications is relegated to the philosophy and view of the OS. It's not a multitasking OS (for the most part), so you have a "home screen" that you return to rather than a central "desktop" area. On the Pre the notifications can come up separately and not demand attention because they're another item on the "desktop" of "cards". The pop-up notifications on the iPhone though, since there is no multitasking desktop view of the OS, are items that have to be dealt with immediately upon arrival and you either have to exit the current activity and enter the proper app to deal with it or just ignore it. It really makes doing anything on the phone when you have people texting you completely frustrating. What's more frustrating is that it's not clear whether Apple even realizes this is a frustrating implementation, because they're babbling on about how wonderful it is that now developers can willy-nilly throw notifications at you from their apps! Great, just what the doctor ordered.

Anyway, added hardware features are nice, but I really find the iPhone OS feeling a bit clunky and a bit long in the tooth at this point, and I wish Apple would spend some resources addressing some of the underlying usability issues.

 

[DarkJC]

I have an original iPhone, and I've already posted elsewhere about how I'm looking to get away from AT&T because of coverage issues where I live now, so my views are from a purely academic perspective I suppose because I wouldn't be upgrading to the new iPhone either way (unless they'd announced a new carrier partner :lol).

My main issue with the 3GS is that it has some nice new features, but none of them really fundamentally fix some basic problems with the way the phone's OS operates.

A new camera with video is all well and good for those that would use it, but they're using voice dialing as a way to force people to buy new hardware? That really rubs me the wrong way - that functionality that's been in phones for years is being used as a way to persuade one to do a hardware upgrade purchase. IMO, voice dialing is a matter of auto safety and usability and SHOULD NOT be a matter of sales.

Some of the 3.0 features are nice, but my main gripe is still with the antiquated pop-up system used for notifications. Say what one will about the Pre, but it's implementation of such things is far better and more robust than Apple's on the iPhone, and one would think Apple would see the utility in the way its designed and, quite frankly, steal it.

I surmise, however, that it's use of pop-up notifications is relegated to the philosophy and view of the OS. It's not a multitasking OS (for the most part), so you have a "home screen" that you return to rather than a central "desktop" area. On the Pre the notifications can come up separately and not demand attention because they're another item on the "desktop" of "cards". The pop-up notifications on the iPhone though, since there is no multitasking desktop view of the OS, are items that have to be dealt with immediately upon arrival and you either have to exit the current activity and enter the proper app to deal with it or just ignore it. It really makes doing anything on the phone when you have people texting you completely frustrating. What's more frustrating is that it's not clear whether Apple even realizes this is a frustrating implementation, because they're babbling on about how wonderful it is that now developers can willy-nilly throw notifications at you from their apps! Great, just what the doctor ordered.

Anyway, added hardware features are nice, but I really find the iPhone OS feeling a bit clunky and a bit long in the tooth at this point, and I wish Apple would spend some resources addressing some of the underlying usability issues.

I definitely agree the notifications system needs an overhaul, but do note that with the push notifications come a set of controls that let you decide which notifications you want to receive from each individual application. I have a feeling the SMS style notification will be the least popular, in the sense that you'll only want to have a few apps with the ability to interrupt you like that.

 

[SRG01]

While the iPhone 2G to 3G transition felt right, the 3G-S seems a tad too incremental. Apple is notoriously famous for successful incremental designs in nearly all of its products, though I'm not sure how it will play out in the cellphone arena. Many companies have relied on incremental changes -- ie. Sony Ericsson from a year or so ago -- and did not have great success. Suffice it to say, it would be interesting to see Apple's moves in the coming year.

 

[jonnybryce]

While the iPhone 2G to 3G transition felt right, the 3G-S seems a tad too incremental. Apple is notoriously famous for successful incremental designs in nearly all of its products, though I'm not sure how it will play out in the cellphone arena. Many companies have relied on incremental changes -- ie. Sony Ericsson from a year or so ago -- and did not have great success. Suffice it to say, it would be interesting to see Apple's moves in the coming year.

A lot of current iPhone users are saying this, but here is how I see it. This is not a revision for current iPhone users, this is for people who haven't jumped in yet for a list of reasons. The fact that they're not letting iPhone 3G users override their contracts and upgrade like they did for iPhone to iPhone 3G confirms this in my mind. Battery life, memory, camera, speed performance, sideways texting, notifications for programs like AIM...I wasn't going to get an iPhone with those features missing or those problems existing, but now I'm getting it day 1.

Many people are finally saying they want in and that their few issues have been resolved, while current 3G owners aren't too impressed. Well, if you were fine with the iPhone not having video or having just an alright camera or having slower performance or having to check the icon to see if you have any Facebook or AIM messages, then these changes aren't going to impress you because you didn't mind to begin with. For those on the fence, it solved a lot of the issues.

Also the $99 3G is an amazing move.

 

[Sean]

While the iPhone 2G to 3G transition felt right, the 3G-S seems a tad too incremental. Apple is notoriously famous for successful incremental designs in nearly all of its products, though I'm not sure how it will play out in the cellphone arena. Many companies have relied on incremental changes -- ie. Sony Ericsson from a year or so ago -- and did not have great success. Suffice it to say, it would be interesting to see Apple's moves in the coming year.

I'd be happy with the upgrade if I could actually fucking buy one. I bought my 3G at launch last year and AT&T is making me wait until December 12th to qualify for upgrade pricing on the 3GS.

The benefit of the form factor being the same is that all accessories, cases, etc work with it.

 

[Marty Chinn]

A lot of current iPhone users are saying this, but here is how I see it. This is not a revision for current iPhone users, this is for people who haven't jumped in yet for a list of reasons. The fact that they're not letting iPhone 3G users override their contracts and upgrade like they did for iPhone to iPhone 3G confirms this in my mind. Battery life, memory, camera, speed performance, sideways texting, notifications for programs like AIM...I wasn't going to get an iPhone with those features missing or those problems existing, but now I'm getting it day 1.

Many people are finally saying they want in and that their few issues have been resolved, while current 3G owners aren't too impressed. Well, if you were fine with the iPhone not having video or having just an alright camera or having slower performance or having to check the icon to see if you have any Facebook or AIM messages, then these changes aren't going to impress you because you didn't mind to begin with. For those on the fence, it solved a lot of the issues.

Also the $99 3G is an amazing move.

I think the problem is that 3.0 is really spoiling a lot of people since they're getting all sorts of upgrades from the OS alone. In itself it probably feels like getting a new phone. I bet if most or all the new features in 3.0 were exclusive to 3GS, then people would be jumping over each other to get a new iPhone.

Since that's not the case, for me, the only real burn is the voice dialing being exclusive to 3GS. I just don't buy that they can't add it to the 3G when weak old phones have this ability. For the longest time I was expecting them to add this feature, and then when the OS was being probed to look like it had found it, I was super excited. Now had the 3GS had a special button or some hardware feature that made this possible, I would have understood but all you do is hold the home button down which I could do now on my 3G so it bugs a bit especially again since a lot of phones have this feature, and I consider this a safety issue especially since CA has hands free laws and Apple is located in Cupertino where they are subjected to these laws. So that one feature I'm a bit irked about not being available to 3G owners.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

While the iPhone 2G to 3G transition felt right, the 3G-S seems a tad too incremental. Apple is notoriously famous for successful incremental designs in nearly all of its products, though I'm not sure how it will play out in the cellphone arena. Many companies have relied on incremental changes -- ie. Sony Ericsson from a year or so ago -- and did not have great success. Suffice it to say, it would be interesting to see Apple's moves in the coming year.

And I'm in the opposite camp. I passed on the 3G last year because I thought it was too incremental, while this feels like it offers a lot more. It's a bigger all around upgrade by far, in my opinion.

A lot of current iPhone users are saying this, but here is how I see it. This is not a revision for current iPhone users, this is for people who haven't jumped in yet for a list of reasons. The fact that they're not letting iPhone 3G users override their contracts and upgrade like they did for iPhone to iPhone 3G confirms this in my mind. Battery life, memory, camera, speed performance, sideways texting, notifications for programs like AIM...I wasn't going to get an iPhone with those features missing or those problems existing, but now I'm getting it day 1.

The difference is that when we bought the original iPhone it wasn't subsidized at all, which is why AT&T had no problem with allowing users to upgrade. When the "price cut" came last year it was due to subsidization. AT&T can't afford to keep subsidizing everyone each year there is a new model. THAT is why they're not allowing everyone to upgrade, and is has nothing to do with pulling in just new customers.

 

[Tobor]

And I'm in the opposite camp. I passed on the 3G last year because I thought it was too incremental, while this feels like it offers a lot more. It's a bigger all around upgrade by far, in my opinion.



The difference is that when we bought the original iPhone it wasn't subsidized at all, which is why AT&T had no problem with allowing users to upgrade. When the "price cut" came last year it was due to subsidization. AT&T can't afford to keep subsidizing everyone each year there is a new model. THAT is why they're not allowing everyone to upgrade, and is has nothing to do with pulling in just new customers.

I completely agree. This was the upgrade I was waiting for.

 

[jonnybryce]

And I'm in the opposite camp. I passed on the 3G last year because I thought it was too incremental, while this feels like it offers a lot more. It's a bigger all around upgrade by far, in my opinion.



The difference is that when we bought the original iPhone it wasn't subsidized at all, which is why AT&T had no problem with allowing users to upgrade. When the "price cut" came last year it was due to subsidization. AT&T can't afford to keep subsidizing everyone each year there is a new model. THAT is why they're not allowing everyone to upgrade, and is has nothing to do with pulling in just new customers.

That's fine. In my case, my family and friends with iPhones aren't too impressed by 3GS but myself and others without iPhones are. It's definitely a smaller update than expected (front camera would have been great!) but it's enough to finally win me over.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

what's that leopard/mac osx guide book for switchers/newbies that everybody always recommends?

I don't know which one you are talking about...but this would be the one I'd recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/059652952X/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

That's fine. In my case, my family and friends with iPhones aren't too impressed by 3GS but myself and others without iPhones are. It's definitely a smaller update than expected (front camera would have been great!) but it's enough to finally win me over.

I guess if you actually expected video chat. But that was a big rumor last year right before the 3G dropped. I didn't believe it then, and I didn't believe it now. But top to bottom, this is by far a bigger upgrade than last year.

 

[MrOctober]

I'm sort of torn here. None of the features were really compelling, other than the tweaks to speed and battery life. Battery life alone might be worth it if it means I can activate push without my phone dying overnight.

Obviously I'd have to sell my phone on Ebay to subsidize my costs. Has anyone done this before? Is it just a matter of taking out the sim card and wiping it clean through iTunes?

Is anyone going to ride it out and get nest year's model fully subsidized? I think the first gen owners who skipped 3g hoping for a huge upgrade should feel disappointed. High speed 3g was a much bigger deal imo than this year's changes.

This is exactly what I'm doing. Nothing really compeled me about the new iPhone. I have zero problems with the battery life and I don't care about pictures messages or video at all. I'd never use it. SO as long as I can get the 3.0 software I'm going to wait for next years iPhone and get it cheap.

 

[Tobor]

That's fine. In my case, my family and friends with iPhones aren't too impressed by 3GS but myself and others without iPhones are. It's definitely a smaller update than expected (front camera would have been great!) but it's enough to finally win me over.

Front camera is an AT&T bandwidth issue. It really has only one use, video chat.

This is exactly what I'm doing. Nothing really compeled me about the new iPhone. I have zero problems with the battery life and I don't care about pictures messages or video at all. I'd never use it. SO as long as I can get the 3.0 software I'm going to wait for next years iPhone and get it cheap.

That's exactly what I said last year. And I'll probably say it again next year.

 

[Blackhead]

Almost missed this: iPhone 3GS supports OpenGL 2.0 (while iPhone 3G only supports OpenGL ES 1.?) What difference will it make?

I don't know which one you are talking about...but this would be the one I'd recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/059652952X/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Two recs now so I guess that's the one. Thank you.

 

[mattiewheels]

sooooo, i can hold the home button and say:

'play david bowie, station to station'

and it seamlessly starts playing the album in any app? or does it have to be on the home screen?

?

 

[jonnybryce]

?

The 15 minute walkthrough did it from the home screen, it's only been showed from there. I would bet that it needs to be the homescreen since it brings up a new screen with the frequency waves and then the lady voice repeats it back and we know iPhone doesn't multitask, so only from the homescreen is a solid bet.

 

[mrkgoo]

?

Who knows.

I imagine it's just controlling it just in iPod, but it also works for calling, so who knows. Maybe you can do it anywhere, simply by holding the home button to activate voice - but keep n mind, the hold is also for force quitting an app, as far as I know. ALthough, people found text strings in the code saying that if you activated voiceover, it changes the gestures. But that could be different from voice control.

I'd hope it was for the remote as well.

 

[Sean]

Who knows.

I imagine it's just controlling it just in iPod, but it also works for calling, so who knows. Maybe you can do it anywhere, simply by holding the home button to activate voice - but keep n mind, the hold is also for force quitting an app, as far as I know. ALthough, people found text strings in the code saying that if you activated voiceover, it changes the gestures. But that could be different from voice control.

I'd hope it was for the remote as well.

AFAIK they removed the force quitting button in 3.0. When an iPhone app is hung/freezing on OS 3.0 simply pressing the home button like normal will force quit it.

 

[Chemo]

Picked up my iPhone 3G in April knowing full well that this was on the horizon, and I can't say I'm disappointed that I pulled the trigger at all... weak as hell, almost surprisingly so. I'll be ready for next year's model, and be fully content with mine until then.

 

[Juice]

AFAIK they removed the force quitting button in 3.0. When an iPhone app is hung/freezing on OS 3.0 simply pressing the home button like normal will force quit it.

Actually, what it really means is a ton of situations where there's just no way to quit an app at all when it's frozen.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Here's a question, why did the WWDC guy name all these wireless carriers that support Tethering and why did they include the tethering feature, when AT&T doesn't support it?

Is it kind of a *wink wink* they won't know the difference kind of thing or "hey you can use this if you've got T-mobile and a jailbroken iphone" kinda thing or a "we'll have more carriers soon" kind.of.thing?

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

Here's a question, why did the WWDC guy name all these wireless carriers that support Tethering and why did they include the tethering feature, when AT&T doesn't support it?

Is it kind of a *wink wink* they won't know the difference kind of thing or "hey you can use this if you've got T-mobile and a jailbroken iphone" kinda thing or a "we'll have more carriers soon" kind.of.thing?

No, it's because T-Mobile carries the iPhone in other countries. US T-Mobile doesn't even support data for Jailbroken 3Gs

 

[Phoenix]

Here's a question, why did the WWDC guy name all these wireless carriers that support Tethering and why did they include the tethering feature, when AT&T doesn't support it?

Is it kind of a *wink wink* they won't know the difference kind of thing or "hey you can use this if you've got T-mobile and a jailbroken iphone" kinda thing or a "we'll have more carriers soon" kind.of.thing?

AT&T supports it - I have been tethering my phone during the various betas. What they don't do is provide a plan for it yet, though I'm sure they will once they figure out the best ass-rape price that you'll still bend over and pay.

 

[Phoenix]

Almost missed this: iPhone 3GS supports OpenGL 2.0 (while iPhone 3G only supports OpenGL ES 1.?) What difference will it make?

Two recs now so I guess that's the one. Thank you.

iPhone 3G supposed OpenGL ES 2.0 now as well. The graphics API cores are similar.

 

[mattiewheels]

The 15 minute walkthrough did it from the home screen, it's only been showed from there. I would bet that it needs to be the homescreen since it brings up a new screen with the frequency waves and then the lady voice repeats it back and we know iPhone doesn't multitask, so only from the homescreen is a solid bet.

ah, i see. anyway, it's kind of an awesome thing to have so won't mind having to get back to home to do it.

 

[VanMardigan]

Since that's not the case, for me, the only real burn is the voice dialing being exclusive to 3GS. I just don't buy that they can't add it to the 3G when weak old phones have this ability. For the longest time I was expecting them to add this feature, and then when the OS was being probed to look like it had found it, I was super excited.

I didn't even realize that feature was 3GS only. That's garbage. Still, there are iPhone apps that do this. I have a free one on my phone (say who lite) that works well enough. The other stuff about voice controlled music would've been nice to have though. Still, this update's pretty weak overall since we're getting 3.0, and really I have to give Apple credit for hooking us 3g owners up with that. I'm still debating, but I'll likely be able to hold out for a more substantial upgrade next year.

 

[rampur]

if anyone cares, Gizmodo did a hands on video of the 3gs but they took it down 5 minutes later.

In the video they compared how the 3g, 3gs and the palm pre loaded gizmodo.com over the cell phone data connection.

I cant remember the exact times but it went something like this

3GS: 37 seconds
Pre: 56 seconds
3G: 58 seconds

edit: they also forgot to take down this gallery
http://i.gizmodo.com/photogallery/iphone3GSwwdc

 

[Clockwork]

Well, I just got done returning my iPhone 3G I purchased in May. Had to call AT&T to sort some things out (reinstate my upgrade eligibility/move back to a regular plan on my old RAZR). Then.....

I ordered a new 16gb iPhone 3GS and it will arrive on June 19th (obviously).


It was nice that I was one of the ones that didn't get screwed (as I was still within my 30 day return). Gave me time to get used to the phone and mess around a bit.

 

[LCfiner]

if anyone cares, Gizmodo did a hands on video of the 3gs but they took it down 5 minutes later.

In the video they compared how the 3g, 3gs and the palm pre loaded gizmodo.com over the cell phone data connection.

I cant remember the exact times but it went something like this

3GS: 37 seconds
Pre: 56 seconds
3G: 58 seconds

edit: they also forgot to take down this gallery
http://i.gizmodo.com/photogallery/iphone3GSwwdc

jeesh, seeing that is pretty awesome

 

[Angelus Errare]

How the hell do I get shafted with a $100 deposit with a 755 credit score?!

So I have to give them

199 for the phone
74.99 for the plan
35.99 for One time activation
100.00 for deposit.

So altogether.........405+ dollars?!?! Fuckin A.

Fuck that.

 

[MaizeRage25]

How the hell do I get shafted with a $100 deposit with a 755 credit score?!

So I have to give them

199 for the phone
74.99 for the plan
35.99 for One time activation
100.00 for deposit.

So altogether.........405+ dollars?!?! Fuckin A.

Fuck that.

What does the deposit go towards?

 

[Deleted member 30609]

can someone link me to somewhere with info on the new iPhone model? Or is it all leaked stuff at the moment?

I'm out of the loop.

 

[Buttonbasher]

can someone link me to somewhere with info on the new iPhone model? Or is it all leaked stuff at the moment?

I'm out of the loop.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3g-s/

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

can someone link me to somewhere with info on the new iPhone model? Or is it all leaked stuff at the moment?

I'm out of the loop.

http://www.apple.com

 

[MaizeRage25]

can someone link me to somewhere with info on the new iPhone model? Or is it all leaked stuff at the moment?

I'm out of the loop.

Pick a tech site, any tech site.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

ahem

thanks guys :lol

 

[jonnybryce]

I'm currently on tmobile with a 2g iphone with my parents plan so I don't have to pay anything. I was thinking about upgrading to the new iPhone but the new features really aren't all that amazing. From what I've read it's really nothing most phones can't do already. I'm thinking of just staying with tmo and getting the new android phone when it comes out hopefully this month and just paying the data. I know this is an iPhone thread but if anyone has used android how is it?

I don't see how you can say iPhone 3GS isn't impressive and then turn around and chose Android, which is not up to the iPhone level of function or presentation. It's good, but not amazing. There's an Android thread and plenty of websites to investigate, but if it's your only option for 3G fun on T-Mobile, it's not bad. But get the Magic, not the G1, the G1 is chunky and has horrible battery life.

 

[Angelus Errare]

What does the deposit go towards?

I have no clue, I'll autoassume it's like other cellphone companies in which you get the deposit back after the first year?

Right now I'm on Sprint (no security deposit needed....) I know my credit score since I'm paranoid, and also had it looked up in order for me to get my new state job.

I find this to be.....a bunch of shit to be honest. I mean the retardedly expensive plans I could semi deal with since I get a state employee discount, but making me a pay a deposit? Fuck that.

 

[CurseoftheGods]

Anyone know when Rogers Canada is getting the 3GS? The salesperson I spoke to said August. :\

It's still not up on their website.

 

[Rlan]

So you cannot record video on your iPhone 3G with the update? It's a 3GS feature?

 

[Jonm1010]

So I was all about returning my Pre and getting an Iphone but someone please tell me that AT&T really doesnt charge you for the data plan, which includes unlimited internet and such which no doubt will mean lots of data usage but you still must pay 20 fucking dollars for measly text messages?

Im about to say fuck that and hope for the best with my Pre. Thats fucking unbelievable.

 

[CurseoftheGods]

So you cannot record video on your iPhone 3G with the update? It's a 3GS feature?

Yup. New camera and shit (3MP with autofocus, VGA video recording).

 

[LCfiner]

Anyone know when Rogers Canada is getting the 3GS? The salesperson I spoke to said August. :\

It's still not up on their website.

it's june 19. shown on a slide at the apple presentation. prices not mentioned.

salespeople at rogers are so fucking clueless :lol um, i mean...

 

[Jonm1010]

So I was all about returning my Pre and getting an Iphone but someone please tell me that AT&T really doesnt charge you for the data plan, which includes unlimited internet and such which no doubt will mean lots of data usage but you still must pay 20 fucking dollars for measly text messages?

Im about to say fuck that and hope for the best with my Pre. Thats fucking unbelievable.

It got stuck on the last page and I really would like some clarification.