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Is Hollywood 'whitewashing' Asian roles?

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I find this complaint silly to be honest. When a french movie or property is adapted by Hollywood using American actors, does anyone complain?

Once the language is changed, everything else is fair game.
 

tino

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This kind of stuff is so obvious only a white guy will start a thread that.

Then again, Asians have alternate entertainment source.
 

PBalfredo

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While I can't blame Hollywood for wanting to use their top money-making stars like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, it does high-light the problem that there are no big asian stars outside a handful of pideonholed martial artists.
 
You realize Japan is like 99% japanese. America isn't 100% white

You're a US movie studio exec with millions of dollars on the line and these are your audience demographics:

White 63.7 %
Hispanic or Latino 16.3 %
Black or African American 12.2 %
Asian 4.7 %
Two or more races 1.9 %
American Indian or Alaska Native 0.7 %
Some other race 0.2 %
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 0.2 %

Are you likely going to cast Chow Yun-fat or Tom Cruise for your next huge blockbuster?

Taking this recently published review by Weaver into mind:

Movie producers are often reluctant to cast more than a few minority actors in otherwise race-neutral movies for fear that the White audience will largely avoid such films. Two experiments were conducted to test the idea that the racial makeup of a cast could influence White audiences' selective exposure to movies. Results revealed that actors' race does influence selective exposure in certain contexts. For nonromantic movies, participants' racial attitudes moderated the relationship between race and selective exposure. For romantic movies, regardless of racial attitudes, White participants showed significantly less interest in seeing movies with mostly Black casts than in seeing movies with mostly White casts. These findings are discussed in light of both social identity theory and social cognitive theory.
 
Josh Brolin is in that role now though. So...whitewashing?

Aw. I was kind of hoping for the
twist
at the end to cause Will Smith's character to pull one of these:

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xbhaskarx

Member
^ proving my point

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Then how do you explain Will Smith getting so many starring roles in big budget movies?

Also Red in Shawshank Redemption was changed from a white character to black in the movie, despite a majority white audience...
 
You're a US movie studio exec with millions of dollars on the line and these are your audience demographics:

White 63.7 %
Hispanic or Latino 16.3 %
Black or African American 12.2 %
Asian 4.7 %
Two or more races 1.9 %
American Indian or Alaska Native 0.7 %
Some other race 0.2 %
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 0.2 %

Are you likely going to cast Chow Yun-fat or Tom Cruise for your next huge blockbuster?

Taking this recently published review by Weaver into mind:

Problem lies with society, not the studios.
 

Future

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You're a US movie studio exec with millions of dollars on the line and these are your audience demographics:

White 63.7 %
Hispanic or Latino 16.3 %
Black or African American 12.2 %
Asian 4.7 %
Two or more races 1.9 %
American Indian or Alaska Native 0.7 %
Some other race 0.2 %
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 0.2 %

Are you likely going to cast Chow Yun-fat or Tom Cruise for your next huge blockbuster?

Taking this recently published review by Weaver into mind:

Yup its not about whats right, its about what sells. People are comfortable seeing white leads and minority sidekicks. This wont change soon
 

Fusebox

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I find this complaint silly to be honest. When a french movie or property is adapted by Hollywood using American actors, does anyone complain?

Once the language is changed, everything else is fair game.

But did this hypothetical French film have a white person playing an Asian?
 

Dabanton

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Then how do you explain Will Smith getting so many starring roles in big budget movies?

Will Smith bucks the trend because his bankable moreso than a lot of white actors. And we know hollywood loves bankable actors as there are not many around who can open movies 'big' Will Smith does.
 

JdFoX187

Banned
Will Smith bucks the trend because his bankable moreso than a lot of white actors. And we know hollywood loves bankable actors as there are not many around who can open movies 'big' Will Smith does.

It's going to be interesting to see if he still has appeal. He hasn't made a movie since 2007, and it wasn't exactly a chart topper.
 

Kuro Madoushi

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I'm more disturbed by not just the whitewashing, but the roles and stereotypes of Asian IN films.

God did Joy Luck Club fuck over the image of the Chinese man... :(
 

Korey

Member
Yes.

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Also, look up the movie 21 (2008)

Casting controversy

Controversy arose over the decision to make the majority of the characters white, even though the main players in the book Bringing Down the House, upon which the film 21 is based, were mainly Asian-Americans.

Jane Willis, on whom the character "Jill Taylor" is based, said in an interview that it was obvious early on that the studio wasn’t interested in staying true to Ben Mezrich’s book. Although race and gender were key to the dynamic of the MIT group, and Ma recruited her to "give the team, which was mostly Asian and male, a little diversity," the studios originally wanted her character left out. They wanted an all white male cast with one Asian girl as a love interest and in another interview, this was also confirmed by Mezrich. Nick Rogers of The Enterprise wrote "The real-life students mostly were Asian-Americans, but 21 whitewashes its cast and disappointingly lumps its only Asian-American actors (Aaron Yoo and Liza Lapira) into one-note designations as the team's kleptomaniac and a slot-playing "loser."

Supporters of the decision to cast Jim Sturgess as Ben Campbell claim that producers simply sought the best actor for the job, regardless of race. Ultimately, this meant passing over many Asian-American talents in favor of London-born Jim Sturgess, who required a dialect coach to speak with an American accent.

Jeff Ma, who was the real-life inspiration for the character Ben Campbell and served as a consultant on the film, was accused of being a "race traitor" on several blogs for not insisting that his character be Asian American. In response, Ma said, "I'm not sure they understand how little control I had in the movie-making process; I didn't get to cast it." Ma said that the controversy was "overblown" and that the important aspect is that a talented actor would portray him. Ma, who is Chinese American, told USA Today, "I would have been a lot more insulted if they had chosen someone who was Japanese or Korean, just to have an Asian playing me."

The Media Action Network for Asian Americans (MANAA) reported on their web site: "After the ‘white-washing’ issue was raised on Entertainment Weekly’s web site, producer Dana Brunetti wrote: "Believe me, I would have LOVED to cast Asians in the lead roles, but the truth is, we didn’t have access to any bankable Asian-American actors that we wanted."
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You realize Japan is like 99% japanese. America isn't 100% white
You're a US movie studio exec with millions of dollars on the line and these are your audience demographics:

White 63.7 %
Hispanic or Latino 16.3 %
Black or African American 12.2 %
Asian 4.7 %
Two or more races 1.9 %
American Indian or Alaska Native 0.7 %
Some other race 0.2 %
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 0.2 %

Are you likely going to cast Chow Yun-fat or Tom Cruise for your next huge blockbuster?

Taking this recently published review by Weaver into mind:

Pretty much, although i dont think its so much replacing the Asian with a White person as it is adapting the Asian story for American audiences by casting an American who in most cases just so happens to be White.
 

TEJ

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I don't know why Dragon Ball Evolution is being mentioned. Most of the cast was asian, and for christs sake Goku himself isn't an asian in the show or manga, he's an alien from another god damned planet which i'm pretty sure didn't contain asia.

It was a terrible movie, yes, but whitewashed?
 
Pretty much, although i dont think its so much replacing the Asian with a White person as it is adapting the Asian story for American audiences by casting an American who in most cases just so happens to be White.

Yeah but, in the case of 21 at least, it IS replacing an asian with a white actor. The story wasn't even an adaptation, it was something that happened in the US. Imagine being the people the story was based on and knowing they wouldn't even get an asian guy to play you or just replaced you with a completely made up character. Why even tell the story if you're going to take liberties at every turn?
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not


The kids from the water tribe are supposed to be Eskimo right?
Call me ignorant but i dont know any Eskimo actors so I imagine the casting director had a hard time finding people to play them.
As for Zuko being British-Indian well i didnt find a problem with that, it kinda worked.
With Aang well I never knew what race he was supposed to be in the first place, i had no issue with him being white, if the kid was Asian i wouldnt feel any different....

Avatar has no Black people....I feel no pity for the race-bending that took place.

TEJ said:
I don't know why Dragon Ball Evolution is being mentioned. Most of the cast was asian, and for christs sake Goku himself isn't an asian in the show or manga, he's an alien from another god damned planet which i'm pretty sure didn't contain asia.
It was a terrible movie, yes, but whitewashed?
Goku was asian in manga, he became white only when he went super saiyan, yes they whitewashed his regular form.

Zoramon089 said:
Yeah but, in the case of 21 at least, it IS replacing an asian with a white actor. The story wasn't even an adaptation, it was something that happened in the US. Imagine being the people the story was based on and knowing they wouldn't even get an asian guy to play you or just replaced you with a completely made up character. Why even tell the story if you're going to take liberties at every turn?
Ahh, yeah thats pretty bad.
I never read the book, was the guy Asian american in the book too....or did that also rape the story?
 
Did anyone else notice how when they made the Hollywood version of Let the Right One In they didn't use swedish actors? Typical Hollywood racists.
 
It doesn't really surprise me that white actors are being chosen for the roles since every anime I've ever watched has white characters.
 

Erigu

Member
Japanese are also guilty of this themselves. Look at some of these games where even though they say a character is Japanese like Ryu they still draw them looking white.
Were you perhaps expecting a more stereotypical Asian-as-seen-from-a-non-Asian-POV look?
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
It's going to be interesting to see if he still has appeal. He hasn't made a movie since 2007, and it wasn't exactly a chart topper.

2008 and Seven Pounds still did pretty damn well. With part of the reason why he hasn't done a film was to promote his own kids' careers. The boy's movie did bank and most likely the girl's will do bank too.
 

Makoto

Member
It doesn't really surprise me that white actors are being chosen for the roles since every anime I've ever watched has white characters.
I'd really be interested in the reaction to Hollywood doing an Usagi Drop live action movie. One of the main characters is without a doubt a white girl with blond hair and green eyes, despite this taking place in Japan. And I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be 100% Japanese as well.






I'd personally cast JGL as Daikichi if I were directing an Usagi Drop movie.
 
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