Is KotOR worth playing before KotOR2?
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Yeah agreed. The story gains a bit from playing the first one, and KOTOR 1 is just a great game.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Well since Kotor is an amazing game there is no real reason to skip it.
FairXchange
Member
KOTOR 1 was amazing, I have 2 but don't want to play it on my 360 because of the poor emulation and crashes. I'm waiting until I have a gaming PC so I can fix the game with mods and play in HD. Looking forward to that day.
Not really. It only has some small references to the first game.
There are plenty of reasons to skip it as it was never a great game to begin with. Lots of boring areas with typical simple Bioware writing, bad combat that only got worse as time went on (same with 2), and a lame villain. All it has is the twist.
There are plenty of reasons to skip it as it was never a great game to begin with. Lots of boring areas with typical simple Bioware writing, bad combat that only got worse as time went on (same with 2), and a lame villain. All it has is the twist.
AlimNassor
Banned
KOTOR was amazing, try it. But, it's best not to start the series, you'll hate Bioware for making the 3rd game an MMO.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
It's not necessary, but I would recommend it. I prefer kotor2, but the first is still pretty damn good.
exmachina64
Banned
You should play the first one.
MidnightCowboy
Member
I recommend playing it. Beyond being a phenomenal game, there are some cool references and reused characters in the 2nd game.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Nope nope nope nope *fingers in ears*. I remember having a good time with it. A better time than kotor 2 actually (probably because it was finished).
You may need to check your memory banks because 2 was finished and it had a better written ending than Kotor 1. Kotor 1 was basically a children's saturday morning cartoon.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
I disagree
I honestly like 1 more than 2. But 2 is a great game and they both cheap on Steam right now. No reason to not get both and play both.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Both are great games. Play both is my recommendation; although the original isn't really required to understand the second, it makes both playthroughs sweeter.
You grow with the characters in the first one and some of those characters are either featured prominently and/or mentioned so you will feel a greater attachment to them than if you just played the second one.
You grow with the characters in the first one and some of those characters are either featured prominently and/or mentioned so you will feel a greater attachment to them than if you just played the second one.
No, I'm pretty sure that KotOR2's ending was pretty obviously unfinished and rushed.
Grover Cleveland
Member
No, the majority of the background of KOTOR2's plot comes from events that happen before KOTOR1's plot (namely the end of the Mandalorian Wars and the beginning of the Jedi Civil War) and not from the first game itself. So you wouldn't miss that much, storywise, if you didn't play the first one.
That being said, you should play KOTOR anyway. It's truly a fantastic game, pretty dated, but's still very good.
That being said, you should play KOTOR anyway. It's truly a fantastic game, pretty dated, but's still very good.
The same could probably be said of most of Star Wars (especially the prequel trilogy). KotOR1 seems more faithful to how the movies were, but it seems to me like KotOR2's the one willing to take Star Wars to task and actually analyze and probe it, particularly the nature of the Force.
You're comparing Bioware's writing team to Obsidians. That is not a fair comparison.
electroshockwave
Member
I remember in a KOTOR 1vs2 discussion before someone posted a really good comparison of the writing in the two games. "A children's saturday morning cartoon" seems like a pretty apt way to describe the first game.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Why in the hell would you Skip Kotor 1 to play the inferior sequel?
Yes play Kotor 1. Play it twice before you play Kotor 2.
Just played it recently on steam and it holds up extremely well on PC.
Shitty screen. but yeah.
Yes play Kotor 1. Play it twice before you play Kotor 2.
Just played it recently on steam and it holds up extremely well on PC.
Shitty screen. but yeah.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
KoTOR 1 is a phenomenal game. I kinda liked KoTOR 2, but not enough to actually ever finish it. KoTOR 1 I not only beat, but I then promptly started a new game and marathoned the entire game in the 10 hours I had before boarding a 20-hour flight. I was so malnourished I passed out several times on the flight and had to receive medical attention from the flight staff.
Totally worth it.
Totally worth it.
Unfinished implies there are sudden gaps in the story when there isn't. Did they get to do everything they wanted to do with the game? Obviously not. But this blatantly incorrect "unfinished" shit that has been haunting the game for 8 years needs to stop. It has a more coherent and complete ending than most games that were released this generation.
True it's not. But it's inevitable when two teams get to work on the same franchise.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
KOTOR was the last great BioWare game, so it's definitely worth playing. Hell, it's one of the best games of all time.
Confidence Man
Member
KOTOR is great, it has much better atmosphere than 2. For all the ways Obsidian improved the first game all the environments are dull, grey, and lifeless. Somehow even the planets they reused don't look as good.
I'd play it before the shit sandwich sequel, yeah. But if its the gameplay that bores you, 2 isn't going to be any better there either.
It did seem like they dropped after. The only real fault I have with the game is the bland dark-side/evil stuff, but playing evil in a bioware game--let alone in the star wars universe- is pretty silly to begin with.
What's the recommended specs required to play KoTOR2 on PC?
That said, didn't the PC release get some ultimate patch very recently that fixes bugs and adds a lot of content that apparently allows for the story to make a lot more sense?
Randolph Freelander
Member
I wonder if I should just read the last chapter of a book and skip all those pesky chapters before.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Somebody brings this up everytime the two games are mentioned, and it's always the dumbest fucking argument imaginable.
Why should BioWare be penalized for making a game true to the spirit of Star Wars? The whole fucking series is an homage to the Saturday Matinee Serials.
I like KotOR 2 for what it did to the Star Wars myth, but that's what the game's written to do. It's an apple to oranges comparison.
As for the OP's question. No it's not essential to play KotOR if you only have KotOR 2, but the question is, why would you?
Goldenroad
Member
I don't think this really proves anything, but I felt it was worth quoting.
KOTOR 1 > Your Health > KOTOR 2
StrangeADT
Banned
The real questions is if KOTOR2 is worth playing after KOTOR. My answer would be no, but there are a lot of KOTOR2 supporters here.
Let's not make inherently wrong comparisons here!
It's more like skipping to the second book of a two part series because you heard the second one was better and not so deeply connected to the first one that you HAD to read it. Actually, I think we can say it's like skipping A New Hope to just watch Empire Strikes Back, with no one even bothering to bring up Return of the Jedi (The Old Republic).
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Never got to the ending as I got stuck in an endless loop when trying to get my lightsaber.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Play KotOR 1 if you really like Star Wars.
Play KotOR 2 if you really like Star Wars, but is also kinda bored by Star Wars.
Play KotOR 2 if you really like Star Wars, but is also kinda bored by Star Wars.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Screw that. Start at the beginning or don't start at all.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
God, Bioware is embarrassing when compared so directly.
Oh, I'm not arguing against the idea of coming in at the beginning, it just doesn't seem right to equate KotOR2 with the "final chapter" when there's more relevant comparisons, even within the franchise itself.