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Is Ocarina Of Time the best game ever?
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Do The Mario
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Blinx is the best game i have ever played, it's graphix are teh better then 00T!
FeedMeAStrayCat
Member
Broshnat said:
You are a very smart person.
GE's my favorite game of all time. I've had so many great times playing that game it's incredible..
But back on topic, OoT is certainly in around my top ten favorite games. It's awesome!
CajoleJuice
Member
Personally, I would say OOT was the greatest experience I ever had with a game. It was just utterly amazing at that time. It basically made me a hardcore Nintendo fan. Even when I played through the Master Quest, I was amazed at how good the game still was.
crumbs
Member
I can't believe how many people are bitching about the graphics on a six year old game. Why aren't people complaining about the DS graphics.
Back on topic, OoT is a personal favorite and one of my most memorable gaming experiences. I made the mistake of playing through it again on the bonus disk before playing WW, which pales in comparison in everything but graphics. I don't think I'd call it the best ever but it's definitely one of the best.
Back on topic, OoT is a personal favorite and one of my most memorable gaming experiences. I made the mistake of playing through it again on the bonus disk before playing WW, which pales in comparison in everything but graphics. I don't think I'd call it the best ever but it's definitely one of the best.
crumbs said:
Um, they definately are complaining if you have read enough DS threads. It's an unavoidable discussion with the PSP being just around the corner.
As for Oot, my first play through was definately one of the best moments I had last generation. That's all I will say because this best of mess usually leads to flames.
Great King Bowser
Property of Kaz Harai
Ocarina of Time is my personal game of all time. It just had the power to draw you in, and was simply awe inspiring.
That and it has a special place in my heart, I still remember playing through the Deku Tree whilst my dad watched, probably the only game he ever bothered to watch me play through. I was only about 12 at the time, and about a year later my dad passed away. I really feel like playing through again on GC.
That and it has a special place in my heart, I still remember playing through the Deku Tree whilst my dad watched, probably the only game he ever bothered to watch me play through. I was only about 12 at the time, and about a year later my dad passed away. I really feel like playing through again on GC.
believe it or not i hated ocarina of time. it felt very simplistic. the dungeons left much to be desired from the great dungeons we seen in A Link to the Past. The game lacked enemies. Lacked action. Hyrule field for instance was almost completely barren. The game didn't have enough content for me. It's easy not to find apparent flaws when there isn't much "around" to be flawed. The so called best game ever was a terrible dissapointment for me. I have enjoyed many of the link games and this one was a monstrosity compared to those. Where were the enemies?? Why was the battle system so babyfied? You lock on and that's all it takes to kill many enemies. Where is the skill in that?
There are other things but I cannot remember as I played this a long time ago. There just was no depth in the game eighter. And Im sure some of you can admit that.
There are other things but I cannot remember as I played this a long time ago. There just was no depth in the game eighter. And Im sure some of you can admit that.
Ocarina of Time is garbage. It was even an insult to the Zelda brandname.
Right after playing OoT i knew where Nintendo was headed and sold my N64. Get your heads out of the sand guys, OoT wasn't a good game at all.
Controls were about as bad as they get, interface was clunky... camera was a huge problem...
With Zelda they took a step. With Zelda 2 they took 3 steps ahead. With Zelda 3 they leaped 6 steps ahead. With Zelda OoT, they fell down the stairs.
Right after playing OoT i knew where Nintendo was headed and sold my N64. Get your heads out of the sand guys, OoT wasn't a good game at all.
Controls were about as bad as they get, interface was clunky... camera was a huge problem...
With Zelda they took a step. With Zelda 2 they took 3 steps ahead. With Zelda 3 they leaped 6 steps ahead. With Zelda OoT, they fell down the stairs.
mashoutposse
Ante Up
At the time, yes. Now? Of course not. Actually, I would be disappointed in the relatively young gaming industry if it couldn't produce something better in the six years since OoT's release.
Late Stage Marxist
Member
The game was nothing short of revolutionary, and although some of the gameplay mechanics don't hold up well today (water temple boots, somewhat sluggish combat engine) , it still deserves respect for simply setting the bar for 3D adventure games.
I don't think there's been a game this generation that has really pushed gaming forward to the degree that OOT did, though GTA3 comes pretty close.
I don't think there's been a game this generation that has really pushed gaming forward to the degree that OOT did, though GTA3 comes pretty close.
shibbs said:
the impact FFVII had was great too...that doesn't make it a good game though :b
was OoT the best game ever? I don't believe in having a 'list' but I would say no. Besides, I enjoyed MM much more
edit: review scores mean jack shit. I value a game based on what I think of it...i personally don't care what the fuck other people feel as It doesn't enlarge my ego that I'm in agreement with so many others who get paid to do what i pay to do.
0wn3d said:
I know.
Why do people knock the graphics? At the time it was better than anything out there. Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast was about the only thing that came close and MGS on playstation. The dynamic lighting, shadows, moody atmosphere was a revelation in adventure games. Made Tomb Raider / Resident Evil even Mario 64 look pathetic in comparison.
It's hardly fair to compare it to todays games graphically though, in the same way you can't criticise Mario Bros 3 for graphics.
My point about it being in 3D is not the change in graphics or presentation, but the change in feel of the game. I guess a similar thing can be said for GTA3. The increased freedom, the way you can just wonder around, stop and examine the landscape, go for a ride on a horse- at the time it felt like breaking out of the shackles imposed by the old Zelda games. You suddenly felt like you were actually there, wondering across Hyrule.
The only thing that came close was playing Mario 64 for the first time in a shop and just thinking wow. But Zelda even came and blew that away.
Zelda had great graphics at the time, and the music *was* great too...now? they should just let the soundblaster pro MIDI shit die
edit: yes. that's exactly what I meant. I mean, what else could I mean? that i'm not going to use other reviews as a basis for my opinion instead of forming my own?
Broshnat said:
edit: yes. that's exactly what I meant. I mean, what else could I mean? that i'm not going to use other reviews as a basis for my opinion instead of forming my own?
SantaCruZer said:
I was a PC Gamer at the time (though I joined the console ranks once more thanks to Dreamcast), bud, and I didn't even play the game until late 1999. By the time I had played OoT, the Dreamcast was available. Even if we WERE looking at 1998, the DC was out in Japan and games like Half-Life and Unreal were available on the PC.
I never found OoT attractive and the large, open field was very BORING to me as a result.
Hell no it wasn't. It was better than most anything on Saturn, PSX, and N64...but that's not where my frame of reference lies. I compared OoT to other games I had played, and it didn't compare. It was too empty and plain (plus, it ran at 20 fps).
Broshnat said:
Broshnat said:
wasn't accusing anyone of using pointless numbers to form an opinion, but statements like that I disagree with. Hundreds of thousands of Lineage players doesn't stop the game from being a piece of shit, in my eyes--the same way that 34 reviews claiming that OoT is the best game of all time doesn't make it the best game of all time, in my eyes
Scoot said:
Broshnat said:
Yep, that makes it the best game ever. Other people's opinions validating your own opinions about the game. OoT might be the fourth best Zelda game. It MIGHT be. ALttP, WW, MM and the most underrated game of all time Zelda II: The Adventure of Link are all better than it. Hell, the first Zelda might even be better.
'But Scoot,' you whine, 'it brought ARPG to 3D.' It did, and quite poorly, I might add. Visually the game is so unplayable now. Just look at the Deku tree. I have no need for 64 bit graphics in 3D, and never did. At the time, it did set the bar for 3D, absolutely. And it is an incredibly important game in history, but GTA3 is more important this gen for game design and Halo 2 is more important for the mainstreaming of video games.
Just say no to best game ever.
Say yes to being the most overrated game ever.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Broshnat said:
See, I appreciate that many people here feel that way, it's great that you do. But for me the 2d games of both franchises you just mentioned are more fun to me in hindsight. In OoT - I didn't suddenly feel like I was wandering across Hyrule - I felt like I was sitting with a gamepad in my hand making this pointy elf dude gallop across a hub world from A to B. In Super Mario 64, the platforming was still bliss but gone were most of the fun powerups - replaced by what I personally feel were lesser items. Ocarina of Time and Mario 64: BOTH mind blowing graphically at the time, BOTH an absolute joy to play compared to other games around at the time... and BOTH still better than many games around today. But this is not to say either is perfect. All I want from Zelda is some new items, new puzzles (that aren't playing with 10 year old variables) and a nice overworld chock full of things to find and do... ie NOT Hyrule Field from OoT. With regard to Mario: I do love Mario 64 but the convolution of 3d makes many casuals unable to play it skillfully. I think there should be 2d mario games as well as 3d ones. They're what a lot of 20 something gamers played to death and what weened them as kids onto the genre -- why can't that formula work today?
Broshnat said:
because if he had he would have thought that it was the best game ever? by even asking this I can see that your logic is flawed and the reason why i believe you even made this thread is amusing
buthey if I type liek this then you can comment on my spelling and grammar.
So you don't think I should ridicule the comment
"'But Scoot,' you whine, 'it brought ARPG to 3D.' It did, and quite poorly, I might add. Visually the game is so unplayable now. "
Wrong on so many levels.
"unplayable"?? Why?? Because the textures are low-res? How does that make the game unplayable? Grow up.
"It bought ARPG to 3D quite poorly?" Why, because the textures were blurry?
So when the wheel was invented, everyone looks back now and goes "yeah, but it wasn't totally round, it had surface flaws and no tyre- it's not as good as wheels today".
Indeed. But without it, there wouldn't be any wheels today.
The fact it still stands up graphically today (although it's obviously been far-surpassed) is a huge achievement in itself. The fact it was miles ahead of anything else you could get on a console at the time is what people keep forgetting though.
Anyway, I'm not talking graphics here. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
"'But Scoot,' you whine, 'it brought ARPG to 3D.' It did, and quite poorly, I might add. Visually the game is so unplayable now. "
Wrong on so many levels.
"unplayable"?? Why?? Because the textures are low-res? How does that make the game unplayable? Grow up.
"It bought ARPG to 3D quite poorly?" Why, because the textures were blurry?
So when the wheel was invented, everyone looks back now and goes "yeah, but it wasn't totally round, it had surface flaws and no tyre- it's not as good as wheels today".
Indeed. But without it, there wouldn't be any wheels today.
The fact it still stands up graphically today (although it's obviously been far-surpassed) is a huge achievement in itself. The fact it was miles ahead of anything else you could get on a console at the time is what people keep forgetting though.
Anyway, I'm not talking graphics here. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
There's always gonna be haterz. Just let em, not everyone can like the games you do, and vice versa. The majority of gamers and reviewers seems to agree that OoT is the best game ever (or certainly when it came out in 1998), and that's probably as good an answer as you're gonna get.
You know what, Broshnat, after careful consideration I have decided that Zelda OoT is the best game ever. I mean, how could PERFECT reviews be wrong? I remember the amazement I had when I played through the game and all the memorable events such as Link awakening into the future and witnessing the evil that was done to Hyrule. I remember the joy that I had riding Epona for the first time and I remember the satisfaction that I had when I finally mastered the game's ranged and melee combat systems. Thoughts of wandering the land and exploring every small corner and finding little details that showed that the developers really cared about the explorative gamers still linger on in my mind. The thoughtfully designed dungeons, creative puzzles, and wonderful story (that told a great tale if you looked beyond what was presented at you) were all great. Those reviews are right, and the views of everyone else who thinks like them must be right, as well! Of course, now I see the err in my previous thinking! Thank you for enlightening me!!*
*See if you can tell the difference between my opinion on this great (but not best ever) and what Broshnat wants to hear
*See if you can tell the difference between my opinion on this great (but not best ever) and what Broshnat wants to hear
