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Is Ocarina Of Time the best game ever?
- Thread starter Broshnat
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Why I think WW is better than OoT?
Well, atmosphere is probably the single most important thing in video games. I just finished Half-Life2, and the thing that makes it soo goddamn good is the atmosphere. Sure, the graphics and sound are top-notch, the gameplay is fun. But the fact that they combined
D) this together in 1 beautiful perfectly balanced package is the reason why this game rocks so much. Everything just... fits so to speak.
Same way the gruesome images went hand-in-hand with the techno-metal in Doom. Or the ambient sounds in System Shock 2.
WW is another one in the special category of games IMO. The "cartooney" style is THE way every Zelda should be. Again, it just "fits" with the license. The music wasn't as strong as with OoT, and yes, it should have been a bit more difficult and yes it should have had another 2/3 dungeons. (They scrapped this in order to make the deadline right?!)
But that doesn't take away the fact that this game is more solid than OoT. The controls, sound effects, character designs, animation ( <- still one of the best animated games ever) and the amount of different locales in the game. And again, the atmosphere! The first time I entered Hyrule Castle my jaw just dropped. Walking around in colour in a black and white world. Seeing the Link statue and the 8 sages in the windows. Everything coming to life after getting the Master Sword, just beautiful.
Moments like these are the ones that seperates the great ones from the good ones. And WW had more of these kind of moments than OoT.
Well, atmosphere is probably the single most important thing in video games. I just finished Half-Life2, and the thing that makes it soo goddamn good is the atmosphere. Sure, the graphics and sound are top-notch, the gameplay is fun. But the fact that they combined
D) this together in 1 beautiful perfectly balanced package is the reason why this game rocks so much. Everything just... fits so to speak.Same way the gruesome images went hand-in-hand with the techno-metal in Doom. Or the ambient sounds in System Shock 2.
WW is another one in the special category of games IMO. The "cartooney" style is THE way every Zelda should be. Again, it just "fits" with the license. The music wasn't as strong as with OoT, and yes, it should have been a bit more difficult and yes it should have had another 2/3 dungeons. (They scrapped this in order to make the deadline right?!)
But that doesn't take away the fact that this game is more solid than OoT. The controls, sound effects, character designs, animation ( <- still one of the best animated games ever) and the amount of different locales in the game. And again, the atmosphere! The first time I entered Hyrule Castle my jaw just dropped. Walking around in colour in a black and white world. Seeing the Link statue and the 8 sages in the windows. Everything coming to life after getting the Master Sword, just beautiful.
Moments like these are the ones that seperates the great ones from the good ones. And WW had more of these kind of moments than OoT.
shpankey
not an idiot
when will people learn that there can never be a definitive "best ever" when you are talking about videogames, something that is %100 subjective. for every person you can find that think game A is the best, there are 10 others out there who think a different game is. so why do gamers perpetually try to force their favorite game down our throat as our best? i don't know.
and not that it matters, but in my opinion the greatest game ever is Myth: The Fallen Lords from Bungie. an incredibly underrated game on this board due to most people never playing it.
and not that it matters, but in my opinion the greatest game ever is Myth: The Fallen Lords from Bungie. an incredibly underrated game on this board due to most people never playing it.
shpankey said:
God, some people take this so seriously.
Am merely offering my opinion (hence the QUESTION MARK in the topic title) and seeing who agrees / disagrees and why / why not they do.
Seems the majority agree though, so although it is subjective, there must be a reason why, for example, 99% of people would say that Gran Turismo is better than Cruisin' USA.
There were 20+ islands in the game. You go ahead and make 10 different scenes, it's more difficult than it sounds. Especially when you want to make them vastly different from the last one.Wyzdom said:Damn, you're lucky! I saw just water in this game!
But this was just an element of why I like the game better than OoT. And like I said before, it's the package, not just one thing
Hooker said:
Don't get me wrong, I liked Wind Waker.
It just didn't have the same feeling of adventure as Ocarina. Like you were in your own India Jones movie or something as opposed to the Mummy 2.
I feel since Miyamoto stepped back a bit and let others take over the main roles in the Zelda games, they just haven't been as good.
Ocarina was the result of 3-4 long, sweaty years of vision and ingenuity.
My favorite game is Earthbound.
But!
The game I think is the most well-made from a technical standpoint is Metroid Prime.
The game I think had the most wow-factor for me is Mario 64.
The game I think had the most influence on me is Link to the Past.
The game I think had the most influence on the development/gaming world is Ocarina of Time.
The game I think had the most artistic value is ICO, followed by Wind Waker.
But!
The game I think is the most well-made from a technical standpoint is Metroid Prime.
The game I think had the most wow-factor for me is Mario 64.
The game I think had the most influence on me is Link to the Past.
The game I think had the most influence on the development/gaming world is Ocarina of Time.
The game I think had the most artistic value is ICO, followed by Wind Waker.
Goldeneye and Mario 64 are close 2nds though.
I remember when EDGE posted their top 100 games of all time:
1) Zelda: OOT
2) Mario 64
3) GoldenEye
I don't remember the rest of the top 10, although Zelda: LTTP, Mario World, Gran Turismo, Half Life, Pokemon, Street Fighter 2 were all in it I think, not sure of the order though. Oooh, and Tetris. Tetris must be the most ingenius and addictive single-player game ever.
I remember when EDGE posted their top 100 games of all time:
1) Zelda: OOT
2) Mario 64
3) GoldenEye
I don't remember the rest of the top 10, although Zelda: LTTP, Mario World, Gran Turismo, Half Life, Pokemon, Street Fighter 2 were all in it I think, not sure of the order though. Oooh, and Tetris. Tetris must be the most ingenius and addictive single-player game ever.
Although I agree with the rest of your post I don't understand how a game like Metal Gear Solid is immersive. To beat Psycho Mantis you have to change controller ports. During many early cutscenes you are told how to control Snake. "Press the square button to duck," for example. Then you throw in the triangle relationship between you the player, Snake, and Otacon and the game seems to be screaming at you "This is not real! This is a game! You are playing a video game!"Broshnat said:
Naked Snake
Member
DopeyFish said:
:lol :lol :lol
If you weren't DopeyFish, I would have sworn that post was sarcastic... Most erroneous quote ever?
Virgin Wii
Banned
Definitely not. Wind Waker is a much better game, and even that isn't the best ever.
WHOAguitarninja
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No way. It wasn't then and isn't now.
It is, however, an absolutely fantastic game, and certainly ONE OF the finest games out there.
It is, however, an absolutely fantastic game, and certainly ONE OF the finest games out there.