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[Digital-Aftertaste]

Self explanatory, yes no both and why.

EDIT: Alright, hilarious responses, lemme iterate here. The simplicity of Skyrim, its constant hand holding and dumb-ification of the Elder Scrolls formula (even more so than Morrowind to Oblivion) set a bad standard as an unintended side effect that other studios followed for the worse. At the same time, the game was big, had a lot of things to do and was easy to just pick up and play with little to no conveyance. Would you say that the possible Chili's/Applebee's/Olive Garden of AAA games was good or bad for what came after?

 

[Artistic]

How is it self-explanatory for someone who hasn't played it?

 

[Generic]

No, Oblivion was.

 

[LectureMaster]

LMAO,

I thought OP was gonna give a dissect about the argument.

And he was like, nah, I'm asking you and you need to tell me why.

 

[Dacvak]

No to both.

 

[Draugoth]

That was Fornite

 

[Kacho]

Quality thread.

 

[adamsapple]

You gonna say that for every successful IP?

 

[winjer]

Really lazy thread. At least explain your points.

 

[The_hunter]

 

[T4keD0wN]

The question makes so little sense i doubt even its author can answer it.

 

[ssringo]

@grok what's your opinion?

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Best thing since it's one of the best games of all times modded and only rivaled by other Fallout or Elder Scrolls games.

 

[Begleiter]

I think it's been most damaging to Bethesda, who set it as a standard for themselves that I don't believe they'll be able to match. The rest of the industry got open world brainrot from Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed and (latterly) Breath of the Wild.

 

[Sooner]

No and no.

It was an okay game. That's all.

 

[Danjin44]

I never played Skyrim because it looked ugly as fuck with boring combat.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I payed for the anniversary edition of Fallout 4 on Steam last night. Why are there no threads about how I wasted 40 bucks?

 

[BennyBlanco]

No and no.

It was an okay game. That's all.

sold over 60M copies. really dumb post.

 

[Sooner]

sold over 60M copies. really dumb post.

And so do games like Pokémon and Roblox. Doesn't make them great games.

Skyrim was a decent game. There have been countless better open-world games since.

 

[bitbydeath]

Fun fact:
Demons Souls released the same year as Skyrim. Souls games have been the perfect replacement since.

 

[Bkdk]

It's both best and worst for BGS, it brought them huge success initially but now it's competing with its own games, that's why they are trying to use updates to break their old titles so they could keep sell you creation club paid mods as their new games outlook is grim.

 

[IAmRei]

yes, from dev point, they are lazy to fix, and just like drop and see if the community will fix it
but from modder and player, i think it's still cool back then, cept, I don't like the vanilla
... that ugly hair and stiff female animation ... ugh.. but once modded well, the game is fine

cept that combat ugh....

TLDR: for me, some are yes it is fine, but most are not okay

 

[PeteBull]

Skyrim wasnt best thing to happen to gaming but from my pov(bethesda/western rpg genre lover) its definitely one of the greats, yes even today if u play it in 4k60 maxed, with 0 mods- it holds up

 

[Mengy]

Skyrim wasnt best thing to happen to gaming but from my pov(bethesda/western rpg genre lover) its definitely one of the greats, yes even today if u play it in 4k60 maxed, with 0 mods- it holds up

Yep, this mirrors my thoughts exactly.

 

[Humdinger]

Huh? Neither. Why do all viewpoints have to be so extreme?

 

[Hugare]

Not the biggest Skyrim fan, by far (since I havent even finished it), but I know that you are talking nonsense

In 2011 it was amazing, and there are still few games like it.

About the "dumb-ification" of the formula: Skyrim was Oblivion with a better UI and lacking that terrible "reading people" minigame. How deeper was Oblivion?

 

[Durin]

A lot of game series are like bands, where they start out with this rough sound some people like, then they streamline it to be accessible to the masses...and then they pass a threshold where the streamlining is too much losing the core fans, with maybe 1-2 more albums that casual fans consoom. Finally the band has a choice: innovate to become relevant again, do a back to basics album that just stagnates their decline, or streamline again to just fall off completely.

Skyrim was the accessible album for the masses, Fallout 4 was the point where the streamlining started to lose the core fans, Starfield is the consoom album banking off previous success, and Bethesda is at the 3 choice fork. Fallout 76...that was the random cash grab compilation album the record label crapped out.

 

[tr1p1ex]

The topic is Skyrim.

Now discuss!

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Is hyperbole the worst thing to ever happen to the internet?

 

[Laptop1991]

Not the worst, thats Grand Theft Auto online for me, the money made from shark cards changed gaming, Bethesda went from one of the best SP devs to wanting to MP all their games and ruined them for mtx, and so did many others.

Skyrim was a great games on release, I hardly played anything else for a few years especially using mods.