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Is there a site that has the entire timeline of star wars?

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I'm not a huge star wars fanatic, but I realized that I don't really understand the significance of the events that take place in episodes I and II, how much time passes between them, and what goes on between episode III and IV. Also, I'm sure theres lots of good stuff that happens before any of the movies. So help me out here. I'm sure one of you nerds knows where I can read up on this stuff.
 

Sjoerd

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Go Go Ackman! said:
I'm not a huge star wars fanatic, but I realized that I don't really understand the significance of the events that take place in episodes I and II, how much time passes between them, and what goes on between episode III and IV. Also, I'm sure theres lots of good stuff that happens before any of the movies. So help me out here. I'm sure one of you nerds knows where I can read up on this stuff.

Nerds calling other people nerds... The internet is amazing.
 

SKluck

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I've always wanted to buckle down and read all the star wars books but there's like 300 of them so I never have. Don't know where to start. There doesn't seem to be any kind of set order just certain series. Confusing.

Anyone got any tips?
 
I'm not big into the Extended Universe books, but if you had to pick up one set, pick up the Thrawn/Heir to the Empire set, which I believe was the first EU book set. The first one is Heir to the Empire, the second is Dark Force Rising, and the final one is The Last Command. They were pretty good, very believable that these events happen after ROTJ, and don't go off the deep end in terms of stuff they add since a lot of the EU books do. I don't really consider any of the books to be "canon" though.
 

Swordian

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SKluck said:
I've always wanted to buckle down and read all the star wars books but there's like 300 of them so I never have. Don't know where to start. There doesn't seem to be any kind of set order just certain series. Confusing.

Anyone got any tips?

I'm fairly certain that if you open any recent SW book it will have a timeline that includes all the books and movies and such.
 

fallout

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IAmtheFMan said:
I'm not big into the Extended Universe books, but if you had to pick up one set, pick up the Thrawn/Heir to the Empire set, which I believe was the first EU book set. The first one is Heir to the Empire, the second is Dark Force Rising, and the final one is The Last Command. They were pretty good, very believable that these events happen after ROTJ, and don't go off the deep end in terms of stuff they add since a lot of the EU books do. I don't really consider any of the books to be "canon" though.
Motion seconded.

Be warned though, from my experience, they're really the only good ones. The author (Timothy Zahn) went on to write another series, but I never bothered to check it out. After reading the Heir to Empire series, I tried reading a couple of the other books, but I usually gave up half way through.
 

Boogie

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SKluck said:
I've always wanted to buckle down and read all the star wars books but there's like 300 of them so I never have. Don't know where to start. There doesn't seem to be any kind of set order just certain series. Confusing.

Anyone got any tips?

I was really into the Expanded Universe novels a while back. I recommend reading anything by Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, and Kevin J. Anderson.

You should probably start with the first Zahn trilogy. Then I'd read Stackpole's X-Wing series. It's my personal favourite: it's great for action, and if you like it, then you should keep reading the ones done by Aaron Allston.

I wouldn't get too hung up on the order in which to read them, though maybe start with those published first, not those coming "first" in the timeline.
 

Swordian

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Boogie said:
I was really into the Expanded Universe novels a while back. I recommend reading anything by Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, and Kevin J. Anderson.

You should probably start with the first Zahn trilogy. Then I'd read Stackpole's X-Wing series. It's my personal favourite: it's great for action, and if you like it, then you should keep reading the ones done by Aaron Allston.

I wouldn't get too hung up on the order in which to read them, though maybe start with those published first, not those coming "first" in the timeline.

I'll second the X-Wing recommendation, but stay far,far away from KJA.
 

NohWun

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All you need to know:

1977 -> Great Star Wars movie
1980 -> Good Star Wars movie
1983 -> Okay Star Wars movie
1999 -> Sucky Star Wars movie
2002 -> Even worse Star Wars movie
2005 -> you can probably guess
 

Tedesco!

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NohWun said:
All you need to know:

1977 -> Great Star Wars movie
1980 -> Good Star Wars movie
1983 -> Okay Star Wars movie
1999 -> Sucky Star Wars movie
2002 -> Even worse Star Wars movie
2005 -> you can probably guess

Should read:

1977 -> Great Star Wars movie
1980 -> Greatest Star Wars movie
1983 -> The worst Star Wars movie
1999 -> Ok, but misguided Star Wars movie
2002 -> Better than the last one, but not by much Star Wars movie
2005 -> Probably the best of the second trilogy
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I have trouble getting the link posted to work... so here is the one I use, and yeah I've read almost all of the books:

http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/starwars/timeline.html

The Zahn books killed all kind of ass... thist most recent Vong storyline... while incredibly f'n long and drawn out definitely had some interesting moments.

I'm not really thrilled that the new books are going to focus on the Jedi outflight... what was it called.. Operation something... but hopefully they'll eventually get back to telling stories from after the end of the Vong invasion.
 

ElyrionX

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The only EU books that I have read are the ones from the New Jedi Order series. I thought it was fairly enjoyable though I never did find out how it ends.
 
Tedesco! said:
Should read:

1977 -> Great Star Wars movie
1980 -> Greatest Star Wars movie
1983 -> The worst Star Wars movie
1999 -> Ok, but misguided Star Wars movie
2002 -> Better than the last one, but not by much Star Wars movie
2005 -> Probably the best of the second trilogy

Wrong again.. :)

1977 -> Great Star Wars movie
1980 -> Greatest Star Wars movie
1983 -> Great Star Wars movie
1999 -> POS
2002 -> POS
2005 -> Hoping not a POS, but most likely POS.
 
How anyone can say the prequels are worse than Return of the Jedi is just beyond me. The end light-saber fight in ROTJ is soo emotional and epic. Personally its my favorite star wars movie.
 
TehPirate said:
How anyone can say the prequels are worse than Return of the Jedi is just beyond me. The end light-saber fight in ROTJ is soo emotional and epic. Personally its my favorite star wars movie.

Jedi gets WAY too much hate.
 

Tedesco!

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TehPirate said:
How anyone can say the prequels are worse than Return of the Jedi is just beyond me. The end light-saber fight in ROTJ is soo emotional and epic. Personally its my favorite star wars movie.

Do you mean to say better?

Anyway, Jedi is awful. The acting is atrocious, the sets boring, and lacks a lot of the emotion and excitement from the first two.
 
Tedesco! said:
Do you mean to say better?

Anyway, Jedi is awful. The acting is atrocious, the sets boring, and lacks a lot of the emotion and excitement from the first two.


Your opinion is null and void when you consider the new ones even remotely better then Jedi. :)
 

Ristamar

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Boogie said:
I was really into the Expanded Universe novels a while back. I recommend reading anything by Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, and Kevin J. Anderson.

You should probably start with the first Zahn trilogy. Then I'd read Stackpole's X-Wing series.

I second the Zahn/Stackpole recommendation. The Thrawn Trilogy (Heir to the Empire/Dark Force Rising/The Last Command) is fantastic. I was as giddy as a schoolgirl when those books first hit in the early 90's. They really sparked the whole EU phenomenon, IIRC, for better or for worse, since most of the EU novels are rather crappy.

I've only read two books in Stackpole's Rogue Squadron series, but they weren't bad, and I imagine the others are worth checking out. And, hey, they've got Wedge! Wedge roXX0rs!
 

fallout

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Zelda-Bitch said:
Your opinion is null and void when you consider the new ones even remotely better then Jedi. :)
I'm going to take this opportunity to say something that's been bugging me for awhile. I hadn't watched the original 3 since they got their re-release in theaters /VHS (I was ... 12/13?) until this past February. I was bored over reading week and one of my roommates had been given the DVD release for Christmas, so I decided to pop them in.

They're not that great. I consider myself a pretty big Star Wars fan, but I was absolutely shocked when I watched them again. Maybe I'm just jaded and older, but there were many times when I just wanted to smack the actors around and tell them to quit bitching.

I still love the universe. I've played through numerous games, read through numerous books (even the technical manuals ... which are quite informative), played with the lego when I was a kid, all for the reason that they had something to do with Star Wars. But going back to the movies, they're just hard to sit through.

I guess you would say that I care more for the offspring than the parent.
 

Ristamar

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I enjoy the OT as much as I did 10 years ago, maybe even more now that I don't have to watch it on shitty a VHS format.
 

SickBoy

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Tedesco! said:
Do you mean to say better?

Anyway, Jedi is awful. The acting is atrocious, the sets boring, and lacks a lot of the emotion and excitement from the first two.

I'm not sure "lacking emotion and excitement" can be considered a valid reason to consider Jedi worse than the first two prequels.. because that pretty much nails them head on.
 

Dan

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Boogie said:
Eh, I didn't mind KJA, but I'll admit his stuff isn't nearly as good as Stackpole or Zahn.
People like to bash KJA, but let's face it, his trilogy was probably closest to matching what George Lucas did, with the superweapons, the Jedi training, the Sith, etc. Zahn's trilogy, while better, is more like what Star Wars fans wanted after growing up and demanding more depth and sophistication.

Anyway, I'd recommend Zahn's first trilogy. Read that one first and foremost. I'd screw everything he wrote after that in the trilogy, because it's mostly arrogant tripe where he wedges the couple original characters he created further and further into the universe in such unrealistic ways. It just pissed me off that he'd bring back his characters and throw them into the very forefront of the situation after 15 years or whatever. I think his later stories were just too egotistical. He didn't want to incorporate what other authors did. He seemed hellbent on reclaiming the EU as something he created.

The X-Wing books kickass, enough said. Except maybe for Isard's Revenge which was a bit hokey from what I remember, and suffered from Zahn's syndrome of making the author's own creations supremely important in the universe. The X-Wing comics were also stellar. Great characters, action and art.

The trilogy Kevin J Anderson did was pretty enjoyable, although maybe not as well written as the above. His Tales of the Jedi comics also kicked a lot of ass.

Stackpole's I, Jedi also covers some of the same events as the KJA trilogy, even to handle some retconning here and there, but it's a nice exploration of his main character creation without the ego of Zahn's later stuff.
 

SteveMeister

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Man, that's hard to navigate and has a bunch of EU stuff that he's probably not ineterested in anyway. As far as the movies go:

Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Anakin is 9, Padme is 14, Obi-Wan is around 18 to 20)
... 9 years pass ...
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
... 3 years pass ...
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
... 19 years pass ...
Episode IV: A New Hope (Luke and Leia are both around 19, Anakin's age in Attack of the Clones)
... 3 years pass ...
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
... 1 year passes ...
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
 

Tedesco!

Member
SickBoy said:
I'm not sure "lacking emotion and excitement" can be considered a valid reason to consider Jedi worse than the first two prequels.. because that pretty much nails them head on.

I think so, considering all the emotion and excitement of ANH and ESB falls flat and vanishes once ROTJ starts. Watch all three back to back to back and you'll see what I mean.
 

SickBoy

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Tedesco! said:
I think so, considering all the emotion and excitement of ANH and ESB falls flat and vanishes once ROTJ starts. Watch all three back to back to back and you'll see what I mean.

I'm not sure I agree with you, but never mind that. I guess my question is whether you think the two prequels thus far are "emotional and exciting."

As far as I'm concerned, they're both brutally sterile.
 

Tedesco!

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No I don't think they are that emotional, and maybe only a tad exciting. The biggest problem I see really (and I am at fault for this too) is comparing all 6 movies as if they are equal. The first 3 were made in a different time, and for better or worse Lucas was a different man when he made the second three.

The prequels fit their purpose, IMHO, when placed in the context of all 6 films. The films get darker as they progress, with maybe 3 and 5 being the darkest. Jedi is the capper, the film that is the exclimation point for the whole series, and I feel it falls flat in delivering the impact it should. I blame that on George's retooling of the script, his fight with the DGA, and his selection of a director that had no backbone. I believe if Spielberg directed the film as originally intended, had the actors actually had a better director to work with; the movie would have been better.
 
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