It’s crazy how much a similar fate Microsoft and Sega had

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Both had successful runs with there second consoles 360 and Genesis. Then they both went downhill after and slowly went into third party after there 4th console release Series S/X and Dreamcast. I'm not including the 32X, Sega CD and Xbox one X.
 
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Sephimoth said:
Except the Saturn and Dreamcast were better :messenger_beaming:

Look at how many CLASSICS the Dreamcast had in it's short 2 year lifespan

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Back then developers could knock out a game in two years without breaking a sweat.

Now it takes 5 years or more. In some instances, over ten years to ship a single game.

90s and 2000s really were the golden age of gaming.
 
The trajectory of Microsoft and Sega consoles in uncanny, and Halo's decline mirrors that of Sonic too!

Xbox = Master System
Debut console releases way after the established market leader (PS2/NES), is much more advanced graphically but ultimately only manages to gain success in a single market (America for Xbox, Europe for Master System).

Xbox 360 = MegaDrive
Second console launches well ahead of competition (PS3/SNES) with success being more global compared to a single territory. This is the golden age in terms of sales, brand mass awareness and overall positivity. Eventually the established competitor's console sales overtake it, but they're more than in the race having stolen marketshare. However towards the end of the generation there's a focus on hardware add-ons (Kinect, MegaCD, 32X) which begins to annoy the fanbase and results in a lack of focus.

Xbox One = Saturn
A series of boneheaded decisions and lack of understanding of the consumer base culminate in a disasterous E3 reveal. The console launches at a way higher price than the competition (PS4/PS1) with multiplatform games running much worse resulting in a lot of marketshare being lost. To compensate, there's a shift towards releasing the biggest games on PC. Only manages to do well in a single market (America for XBO, Japan for Saturn)

Xbox Series = Dreamcast
Much smarter decisions are made in the development of the console meaning that graphically the machine competes well with the rival (PS5/PS2). However their competitor is doing well and most people see no need to switch, especially when backwards compatibility is being offered. There's also a HUGE focus on online that doesn't pan out as well as expected (GamePass = SegaNet). Eventually, games start to be released on competitor's consoles.

Halo = Sonic
The first 3 or 4 games are a huge critical and commercial success becoming the face of the entire brand. Following this the franchise is handed to another developer (343 Industries and Traveller's Tales) who manage to make some decent games but are nowhere near in terms of critical acclaim and success of the first 4 games.
 
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Sega made money with the Genesis. They posted yearly profits in the hundreds of millions. That never happened with Xbox. Even the successful Xbox 360 was plagued with losses. That's no fun..
 
They would be totally similar if Sega had acquired Konami, Treasure, Blizzard Entertainment, Spectrum Holobyte and Sierra, spent a huge amount of money on their next games, only to be left with their dick in their hand, and then shut down all of them.
 
MS story is much worse. Literal infinite money pit, and they failed this hard. You really gotta have a bunch of clueless scrubs as higher ups to screwup this much. This is why i always said that you must find an actual gamer that understands what actual nerds want and how they play their games for high positions. And by gamer i am not referring to Phil and his "i am playing Starfield right now :)" tweet the week Starfield was released. This fake shit never worked and will never work.
 
Except they aren't similar companies at all. Xbox revenue has always been estimated to be less than 10% of Microsoft's total revenue. Sega never made nongaming products that I know of so they are completely dependent on their gaming being successful.
 
It all started in middle of 360 generation when ms stoped investing in games, thought people would buy their consoles with third party games only lol, then they went on a panic buying spree, now they are shutting them down one by one, what a joke of a company.
 
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To be honest, for MS is it even worse... because they had to buy 'everything' and 'everyone' (almost literally) to be it this pathetic place they are at this moment.
 
MSduderino said:
Except they aren't similar companies at all. Xbox revenue has always been estimated to be less than 10% of Microsoft's total revenue. Sega never made nongaming products that I know of so they are completely dependent on their gaming being successful.
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Only making the fact that they continued to release great games as a third party publisher that much more impressive. Meanwhile at xbox after spending over $90B...
 
WTH, MS is not Sega, MS has the luxury to fund more than a decade of failing business and not suffer one bit from that, the only reason they're going TP is because they're not stupid or commies and want money, while Sega was going the way of the dodo
 
Very similar mistakes especially with the third console being weaker yet more expensive. Second console being their most successful etc However you could easily argue Nintendo was following the same trajectory up until the WIi. Where they diverge is that Microsoft is basically throwing it sway, while Sega was just simply obliterated by the PlayStation 2 but they at least had great exclusives till the end.
 
EN250 said:
WTH, MS is not Sega, MS has the luxury to fund more than a decade of failing business and not suffer one bit from that, the only reason they're going TP is because they're not stupid or commies and want money, while Sega was going the way of the dodo
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Well Nadella has pulled the plug
 
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Really?

They are nothing alike outside of console failure.

SEGA went out on the Dreamcast, one of the most beloved and fondly remembered consoles/library amongst gamers old enough to remember.

MS went out clawing and screaming, destroying everything/one in it's path in a wake of fire, cinder and ash...morphing into some unholy unknown beast/entinty.

Not the same.
 
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