Now that it’s been a week, let’s predict Marathon’s fate.
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L*][*N*K
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What do you want us to talk about over here? Just Nintendo did this Nintendo did that??
CityHunter1981
An Absolute Desaster
I am sorry for the studio, but after the comments from publisher CEOs that there is so much potential in GaaS, I think we need another huge failure, in the hope that they finally learn.
I mean if the feedback is no longer organic how will they know where to advance in gameplay? .
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Moderate success, growth with updates. The biggest factor during launch is the price tag. Anything over $30-40 max will be a problem.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
The game itself is one of their issues. They absolutely know what they need to do better; if I remember correctly, the Dr. Lupo dude has been playing/consulting (among others) this game since 2018.
The other issue with this game/studio is the awful PR they have gained over the years.
Icymanipulator
Member
Be nice and don't make the concord devs cry
POKEYCLYDE
Member
If it's $40, between 5 and 8 million players in the first 3 months. Will fall off and go free to play after a year.
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Imagine comparing this to Concord. Abysmal..
Robb
Gold Member
I think it'll do OK at its worst. Bungie are a talented bunch so the gameplay will be solid.
And while the visuals are a bit of a love/hate thing, for me at least, it's unique and consistent. In a crowd you'll instantly be able to pick out which game is Marathon, which I think is a good thing.
And while the visuals are a bit of a love/hate thing, for me at least, it's unique and consistent. In a crowd you'll instantly be able to pick out which game is Marathon, which I think is a good thing.
Walliwallipaloo
Member
I rate it "D" for "Dismal."
Killjoy-NL
Member
Probably a moderate success.
It won't be another Fortnite, but also not another Concord.
Still too early to really tell though.
It won't be another Fortnite, but also not another Concord.
Still too early to really tell though.
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clarky
Gold Member
This is probably the right answer.
Get the initial dev costs back upfront then if the base drops off go FTP to make more from MTX. Unless it really pops off.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Gotta try it first.
If I like it they gotta price the experience right.
If I like it they gotta price the experience right.
night13x
Member
$40 + season pass + well lets be honest...other dlc loaded to the teeth. Only 3 maps at release. We all know how these things usually go. I won't touch it. But hey good luck to them.
In comparison - Helldivers 2 - $40 dollars...and...well thats it. Lots of content at release and to this day continuous support.
Guess which one is successful and which one may not be.
In comparison - Helldivers 2 - $40 dollars...and...well thats it. Lots of content at release and to this day continuous support.
Guess which one is successful and which one may not be.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I think Marathon's biggest issue is how niche the "extraction shooter" genre actually seems to be
Most of us have heard of Escape from Tarkov but who has actually played it? Very few people in the relatively large FPS genre community, I would guess
Maybe Marathon is the game which makes "extraction shooter" mainstream but if Tarkov couldn't do it after being available almost 8 years, and Hunt Showdown couldn't do it, and most of the others are tiny indie games, I feel like Bungie will find it hard to get anyone interested in such a hardcore and niche shooter genre
Most of us have heard of Escape from Tarkov but who has actually played it? Very few people in the relatively large FPS genre community, I would guess
Maybe Marathon is the game which makes "extraction shooter" mainstream but if Tarkov couldn't do it after being available almost 8 years, and Hunt Showdown couldn't do it, and most of the others are tiny indie games, I feel like Bungie will find it hard to get anyone interested in such a hardcore and niche shooter genre
DAHGAMING
Member
Im going with DOA, but im not wishing it that way or finding it funny ect.
If this was 10yrs ago, I think it might be do ok and grow over time, but this day and age to release a game like this for a price in a crowded market your going to be up against it. If it was free to play it would have a chance, but I dont feel people will want to take the risk, maybe im talking for myself though.
If this was 10yrs ago, I think it might be do ok and grow over time, but this day and age to release a game like this for a price in a crowded market your going to be up against it. If it was free to play it would have a chance, but I dont feel people will want to take the risk, maybe im talking for myself though.
Negotiator101
Member
I'll say the reveal was not great, the artsytle is meh, the amount of content is shocking and the graphics are from a generation ago, but Bungie can still do great gameplay and that may just save it.
Alan Silvestro
Member
Big flop, will be free to play after some weeks. It's so ugly that can kill Bungie.
nnytk
Member
I think it will be a moderate success and that Bungie will fix and mold the game, based off of people's wishes.
They often overstepped or made changes that weren't liked by the Destiny community. But they listened and adapted, most of the time.
I hope the price of this game will be really low, that's how they can get a big playerbase.
And as we've seen with Overwatch 2 and many other games, a lot of people want PvE gameplay. If Bungie doesn't push Marathon too hard as an eSports sweaty game and more as a dynamic game that also offers a bunch of great PvE content. Then we are golden. I think.
They often overstepped or made changes that weren't liked by the Destiny community. But they listened and adapted, most of the time.
I hope the price of this game will be really low, that's how they can get a big playerbase.
And as we've seen with Overwatch 2 and many other games, a lot of people want PvE gameplay. If Bungie doesn't push Marathon too hard as an eSports sweaty game and more as a dynamic game that also offers a bunch of great PvE content. Then we are golden. I think.
ElFenomeno
Member
If Skull and Bones got to Year 2, Marathon should be fine. I believe it will find a decent pool of players, for the first 1-2 years at least.
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laynelane
Member
That's very true. I have seen countless comments about their removal of paid DLC in Destiny and other bad practices. As much as people love the game play Bungie provides, there's some negativity surrounding them - and rightfully so. I would be livid if a company removed my paid content.
OT: I predicted moderate success. Bungie has fans and a following and there's always a market for good GaaS games. But this one is not exactly getting a great response so far. It could go either way, imo. Depends on the quality of the final product and how Bungie handles the feed back they're getting now and will get through player testing.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm missing the option "better launch than Concord, but will slowly fizzle out and never become a big success".
PeteBull
Member
There should be 4th option coz no game will be as bad as concord, that sold 25k copies worldwide, but since in my prediction marathon wont be even a moderate success (say 100k ccu on steam), i have to go with DOA.
4th option should be big bomba but not of concord proportions, kinda like suicide squad or bit above, still 0 profit even if it made some revenue.
4th option should be big bomba but not of concord proportions, kinda like suicide squad or bit above, still 0 profit even if it made some revenue.
BlackTron
Gold Member
Nobody has ever not tried to predict how good a game will be before it comes out.
Even a kid renting NES games will try and predict the best games to pick out so he doesn't waste a five dollar opportunity with his parent
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Mild success.
The meta conversation will be the real fun, though. CCU analysts rise up.
The meta conversation will be the real fun, though. CCU analysts rise up.
Little Chicken
Member
This kind of game isn't really in my sphere of interest so I don't really know how it will perform. I think it might do okay initially thanks to the interest from Destiny fans.
Bombolone
Gold Member
I think they are doing everything they can to create an Extraction shooter the casuals with want to engage and stay with.
Destiny
Fortnite
Cod
Apex
Tarkov
This is the audience Marathon is trying to bring over, as a GAAS. Which means they want all of your time.
I don't see any of these entrenched communities ditching their game to play Marathon full-time. The exception is Destiny.
Destiny
Fortnite
Cod
Apex
Tarkov
This is the audience Marathon is trying to bring over, as a GAAS. Which means they want all of your time.
I don't see any of these entrenched communities ditching their game to play Marathon full-time. The exception is Destiny.
This is the part that I'm talking about with judgment of games not being based on the games .
Killjoy-NL
Member
Gotta keep in mind that Tarkov is a PC game.
Hunt Showdown is quite niche indeed.
The benefit Marathon could have, is that Bungie is a AAA-dev, console-centric and has the backing of Playstation.
Mortisfacio
Member
I'm going with moderate > growth, but I really align somewhere between DOA and moderate. I'm not confident in growth. I expect moderate, slow death, then switching to a more F2P model to avoid shutting down the game.
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Majukun
Member
bungies fandom and gunplay will push it through whatever hiccups it will have at the start...updates will partially solve issues, part create new ones.
let's remember that bungie character design has never been their strogest asset, since halo, so let's no act like they need to make another Overwatch to sell copies.
let's remember that bungie character design has never been their strogest asset, since halo, so let's no act like they need to make another Overwatch to sell copies.
It will do okay. The real questions are how much will it cost, how much is the battle pass, how bad are the microtransactions, and will you have to pay for the fabled fourth map? This is Bungie, they have fucked Destiny with type of shit.
I'm thinking the game will be 40 and the battlepass 20 per season. 5 dollar skins, 15 dollars for the "raid" maps
I'm thinking the game will be 40 and the battlepass 20 per season. 5 dollar skins, 15 dollars for the "raid" maps
L*][*N*K
Member
$40 for base, $20 season pass. Say $40 all you wanr Bungie it is a full priced game.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Full priced game would be €80, not €60.
L*][*N*K
Member
$20 season, $20 season two. That is your $80.
clarky
Gold Member
In that case then COD is a $200 game.
Last time I checked battle passes are not in anyway essential and entirely optional.
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clarky
Gold Member
No way will skins be just $5.
Look at what the completion charge. $15 and up, minimum.
Killjoy-NL
Member
6 months of playtime.
BigBeauford
Member
A paid for extraction shooter in highly competitive field of games featuring a name no one under 50 has nostalgia for with visuals unappealing to the extraction shooter crowd.
