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iTunes 4.9 is Out

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DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Podcasting seems very well implemented. It's integrated into the store, but instead of buying the podcasts they are free. You just subscribe to them and iTunes will automatically download them when they are updated. It's like radio shows on demand.

Like the idea of a podcast for the new music releases each week, and looks like it's easy to publish your own podcast. Also talks about 'enhanced podcasts' with images and links while a podcast plays.

Apparently the language files for iTunes4.9 includes lots of messages relating to an iPod phone, so looks like the Motorola iTunes compatible phone will finally be getting a release next week.

Edit: Just been listening to the New Music Tuesday podcast, and if you have Show Artwork turned on in iTunes the artwork changes as the podcasts plays, showing you the cover and name of what's being played. And a link to buy it if you want. There's a book button at the top of iTunes that lets you jump to the different parts of the podcast, complete with icons for the different chapters as well. It's all very well done :)
 

Andy787

Banned
Nash said:
Podcasting seems very well implemented. It's integrated into the store, but instead of buying the podcasts they are free. You just subscribe to them and iTunes will automatically download them when they are updated. It's like radio shows on demand.

Like the idea of a podcast for the new music releases each week, and looks like it's easy to publish your own podcast. Also talks about 'enhanced podcasts' with images and links while a podcast plays.

Apparently the language files for iTunes4.9 includes lots of messages relating to an iPod phone, so looks like the Motorola iTunes compatible phone will finally be getting a release next week.

Edit: Just been listening to the New Music Tuesday podcast, and if you have Show Artwork turned on in iTunes the artwork changes as the podcasts plays, showing you the cover and name of what's being played. And a link to buy it if you want. There's a book button at the top of iTunes that lets you jump to the different parts of the podcast, complete with icons for the different chapters as well. It's all very well done :)
Fucking fantastic. That sounds great.

Off to go see what's out there.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
looks pretty good. I'm at work so I'll investigate what other options there are when I get home.

I like how you can set how many episodes to keep, and when to delete them - but I'd like to do that per podcast, not globally.

I'd also like it to automatically transcode to AAC and set to audiobooks, so it can bookmark my location (especially for some of the longer podcasts)
 

Andy787

Banned
This is so freaking awesome. I really hope my old favorite morning show gets in on this, and tons of other stuff, for that matter. This is probably the best thing to happen with computers since Gmail, imo. This could be revolutionary if people jump on the bandwagon.

Anyway, the podcasts I've subscribed to so far are the Engaget podcasts (which strangely don't seem to want to download, however), The Al Franken Show, Nightline, and the new music Tuesdays thing. I'd really like to see Love Line get on this. I doubt we'll ever get Stern, though, for obvious reasons.

sp0rsk said:
are there any gaming podcasts?
They will come. I don't know if it's nessesarilly a good thing at the moment, considering a gaming podcast show I've heard, which was downright embarassing, but I'd love to see a truly good one pop up. I'd certainly subscribe. Shit, we should start an official GAF gaming podcast. :p
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
Andy787 said:
They will come. I don't know if it's nessesarilly a good thing at the moment, considering a gaming podcast show I've heard, which was downright embarassing, but I'd love to see a truly good one pop up. I'd certainly subscribe. Shit, we should start an official GAF gaming podcast. :p


Id be down for making a gaf podcast in the format of like a radio talk show, we can invite posters and yell at them.
 

Andy787

Banned
I'm sure a lot of industry types would be happy to do the show, too. That's what I would like to see in a gaming podcast. Like, start off with a quick, formal wrap up of the day's gaming news, and then a talk show-style thing with people in the industry who have things to say, like a Dave Jaffe, or Tim Schafer, or Peter Molyneux, or Cliffe B, etc. Obviously, you're not going to get Will Wright everyday, but the lead producer of a new game, or the director of a new game, or composer, lead designer, etc., would all work, as long as they're interesting.
 

Akia

Member
That sounds awesome. Another poster mentioned this but I want to repeat it again.
This Week In Tech (TWiT) is a awesome podcast with the original TechTv cew that did the ScreenSavers. Its a really nice to listen to them again. Especially when some crazy announcement happens (apple+intel) and they argue about it. Its really great.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
iPod update released.

Apple iPod Updater - 4.2
What's new in this version:
iPod Software 1.2 for iPod with color display, iPod mini Software 1.4 for iPod mini and iPod Software 3.1 for iPod with Click Wheel
Integration with iTunes 4.9 for downloading and listening to podcasts

Includes the ability to bookmark position in a podcast, and view podcast artwork.
 

6.8

Member
Can't get the updater to work for me. :(
Well it does work, but I can't get the Update button working. :(
 

6.8

Member
That's what I did too. I have the 2005-06-26 version, and it tells me that my ipod is updated. However, I can't get it to run podcasts, so I doubt it. :(

Wait. Apple's site says that it's software 2.3 that's in the updater, which is what I have. So why can't i play my podcasts?
 

vatstep

This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
Can anyone sell me on podcasting? I really just don't get it. Why is it "revolutionary"? To me, it just seems like listening to a radio show on an MP3 player. That doesn't appeal to me, because I have no desire to listen to any radio programming anyways. And I don't really care about non-radio stuff , because then it just seems like blogging-turned-broadcasting, and blogging is another thing that I don't really get.

So, are there more practical uses I'm not aware of? Or is podcasting just for people who never sit still, have no free time and need easy access to the type of stuff it offers? I just feel like I can just get my news online, by myself, without having it fed to me through my ears.
 
vatstep said:
Can anyone sell me on podcasting? I really just don't get it. Why is it "revolutionary"? To me, it just seems like listening to a radio show on an MP3 player. That doesn't appeal to me, because I have no desire to listen to any radio programming anyways. And I don't really care about non-radio stuff , because then it just seems like blogging-turned-broadcasting, and blogging is another thing that I don't really get.

So, are there more practical uses I'm not aware of? Or is podcasting just for people who never sit still, have no free time and need easy access to the type of stuff it offers? I just feel like I can just get my news online, by myself, without having it fed to me through my ears.

^ sounds like a man who has his mind made up so why do you ask to be sold on it? :lol
 

Macam

Banned
vatstep said:
Can anyone sell me on podcasting? I really just don't get it. Why is it "revolutionary"? To me, it just seems like listening to a radio show on an MP3 player. That doesn't appeal to me, because I have no desire to listen to any radio programming anyways. And I don't really care about non-radio stuff , because then it just seems like blogging-turned-broadcasting, and blogging is another thing that I don't really get.

So, are there more practical uses I'm not aware of? Or is podcasting just for people who never sit still, have no free time and need easy access to the type of stuff it offers? I just feel like I can just get my news online, by myself, without having it fed to me through my ears.

No, you've pretty much summed it up. It's "revolutionary" because with the widespread popularity of portable players, people are now jumping en masse to create recorded content to draw audiences. It's essentially audio blogging, as you noted, and if you're not into that at all, you're unlikely to be wooed by podcasting. I find minimal use for podcasting save for TwiT, but with iTunes 4.9 effectively putting them all in one place, that should make it lot, lot easier to sort through and fuel its success. I've already grabbed some political streams, and I'm going to dig around for more quality technology and music ones if possible.

Blogging, for the record, is worth checking out I think. Of course, that depends on your interests, but as a technology addict for example, there are plenty of quality blogs out there that provide all sorts of insight and news....and when you combine that with RSS, things start taking off.

To whomever asked about the length of a podcast, that's completely dependent on the podcast. Sometimes they're 10 minutes, sometimes an hour such as in the case of TwiT -- rarely have I encountered them to be more than an hour at this point, but I don't doubt they exist.
 

fugimax

Member
Why is it "revolutionary"?
It's "revolutionary" because it allows anyone to broadcast their own show and have an easy way for people to access it.

In the past, people were doing this live with something like Shoutcast or pre-recorded content just posting MP3's. Now, for people like us, there's probably nothing revolutionary about the technology behind it. It's more about the idea of podcasting itself becoming mainstream that makes it revolutionary...basically because there's a lot of quality content that is being tracked and made accessible by PodCasting sites and, now, iTunes.

So, it's revolutionary because of its accessibility, not because it's a leap in technology. It's just RSS+[Sound File]. At least that's how I see it.

Oh, and now iTunes and the iPod allow you to "bookmark" where you're at in the podcast. That's really a nice feature that I think will bring a lot of people into trying podcasting.
 

Macam

Banned
fugimax said:
In the past, people were doing this live with something like Shoutcast or pre-recorded content just posting MP3's. Now, for people like us, there's probably nothing revolutionary about the technology behind it. It's more about the idea of podcasting itself becoming mainstream that makes it revolutionary...basically because there's a lot of quality content that is being tracked and made accessible by PodCasting sites and, now, iTunes.

For some reason, even though I just got done explaining the same thing in short, reading your post just reminded me of way back when we did Segadojo, I think it was, and we had Zack and another guy whose name escapes me at the moment attempt to do a gaming broadcast way back around 2000 over the Internet, which was a huge pain for them to set up. I can't remember the name of the broadcast offhand, but perhaps some of the gamers around these parts may recall what I'm referring to. But yeah, basically, this eliminates a lot of that hassle.
 

SuperPac

Member
And now we're to a point where you really don't need a lot of setup hardware to do a podcast, what with most macs coming with a built-in mic and Garage Band. Maybe it won't sound great, but people could do it. I hope more traditional radio outlets start making their shows available for d/l.

I used to use iPodderX to subscribe and synch podcasts to iTunes but it was pretty buggy and was kinda hit or miss. At least now it's all in one app.
 
I'd love to do a GAF or Gaming podcast in general. Obviously there would be an interest for the content if it could stay current.

Come to think of it, I'm suprised there isn't one out there already.
 

Macam

Banned
Red Mercury said:
I'd love to do a GAF or Gaming podcast in general. Obviously there would be an interest for the content if it could stay current.

Come to think of it, I'm suprised there isn't one out there already.

Don't worry, I'm sure IGN is working on an Insider-only broadcast where you can hear Matt wax poetic about armchair designing classic Nintendo franchises, Douglass Perry trump his own horn about landing a gig in the slave-driven game industry, or Craig Harris voice his laughable opinion on all things portable. Right after these messages of course. And these messages. And these.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Sweet. I don't have a portable player, but I really want to get one now with the ease and variety of podcasts available. It'd be awesome to listen to these shows on the walk to class.

Anyway, I started off by subscribing to these:
The Al Franken Show
iTunes New Music Tuesday
KCRW's Le Show (with Harry Shearer)
KCRW's The Treatment (with Elvis Mitchell)
NPR's On The Media

Very cool. I know my brother recently came into a second iPod that he didn't need, so I need to call him and see if he's gotten rid of it yet.
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
is anyone here troubled by the fact that apple is trying to push podcasting to their proprietary bookmarked-AAC format? sure, it's a rather convenient event, but i'm worried that some of the more quirky sites might just switch over completely from sectioned mp3 files to this wrapped AAC format...
 

Phoenix

Member
I'm not bothered by the fact that they use ACC, but I am VERY annoyed by the fact that you can't add arbitrary Podcasts to iTunes in the normal interface. It redirects you to the iTMS and makes you subscribe in that manner. For those of you not in the know, iTunes doesn't use the normal RSS mechanism, but instead uses a variety of proprietary tags - in essence creating its own bootleg proprietary RSS format.

Not liking that at all. Everything they needed was supportable by the RSS spec.
 

ShyGuy

Member
1 question:

Does Entertainment Weekly or any other movies/tv/music-all combined magazine/website/tv show have a podcast?

I'd love that to go along with twit.
 
Macam said:
Don't worry, I'm sure IGN is working on an Insider-only broadcast where you can hear Matt wax poetic about armchair designing classic Nintendo franchises, Douglass Perry trump his own horn about landing a gig in the slave-driven game industry, or Craig Harris voice his laughable opinion on all things portable. Right after these messages of course. And these messages. And these.

Jesus christ what a nightmare. All the more reason for someone independant.. helll.. anyone not IGN at least, to do a podcast.
 
Anyone having problems with the Al Franken show? I subscribe, but it won't dl the recent show. It says there is a url problem or something when I try to update.
 

Anthropic

Member
Phoenix said:
I'm not bothered by the fact that they use ACC, but I am VERY annoyed by the fact that you can't add arbitrary Podcasts to iTunes in the normal interface. It redirects you to the iTMS and makes you subscribe in that manner. For those of you not in the know, iTunes doesn't use the normal RSS mechanism, but instead uses a variety of proprietary tags - in essence creating its own bootleg proprietary RSS format.

Not liking that at all. Everything they needed was supportable by the RSS spec.

You can add any RSS feed under Advanced->Subscribe to Podcast.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Mrjellybeanct said:
Anyone having problems with the Al Franken show? I subscribe, but it won't dl the recent show. It says there is a url problem or something when I try to update.
I had the same problem. Go and download a specific episode from the store and the show will be added again. Then delete the original and subscribe to that new one.

I have no idea what difference that makes, but that's what I did.
 
Dan said:
I had the same problem. Go and download a specific episode from the store and the show will be added again. Then delete the original and subscribe to that new one.

I have no idea what difference that makes, but that's what I did.


Hmm, it's weird, other shows have a "Get Episode" button next to "Free" in the store, but this one has a "View Album" button instead. It doesn't seem to do anything when I click it.


Edit - thanks Slurpy, that did the trick. :)
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Hmm. It wasn't like that a couple hours ago. Oh well, you figured out a real way to do it.
 

M3wThr33

Banned
I think GAF should start our own podcast.
Each week we spend an hour bitching to each other about how Burnout Legends sucks or how Olimario smells.
 
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